Hello all,
Well stupid me decided to upgrade my Rogers branded Hermes200 (TtYN) to wm6 without knowing everything I needed to. Installed HardSPL and then the HK English rom.
Phone portion works great
After searching and reading, I found the settings for connecting to the Internet for Rogers. Great.
Tried setting up active synce and it gave me the certificate not vailid error.... installed the cert on the new rom and with the h200 hooked up via usb to the computer it syncs up with my exchange server perfectly.
When I disconnect from the PC, direct push stops working....
When I force a send/receive.... it sits at 'connecting...' for a few minutes and if I'm lucking enough to be watching, it comes back with a 'connection error' message on the status bar before it flips back to number of messages in the inbox display...
The one BIG thing (not sure if it is big) is with the original ROM I'd get a 3G connection with serfing the net, doing data transfers, now I get an H connection, not sure if that is the issue, but it is the only thing I can see right now....
Any suggestions?
obiwan05 said:
The one BIG thing (not sure if it is big) is with the original ROM I'd get a 3G connection with serfing the net, doing data transfers, now I get an H connection, not sure if that is the issue, but it is the only thing I can see right now....
Any suggestions?
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I can't really comment on the others, but your H vs. 3G issue isn't an issue at all. The fact that your device shows H just means that you have access to Rogers' new Vision network (HSPDA). Cooked ROMs use an H to differentiate HSDPA (3.5 generations technology, faster) from the 3G for UMTS (3rd generation technology, fast but not the fastest). Because HSPDA is an enhancement of UMTS and is built on top of it, a lot of Windows Mobile 5 ROMS (like the stock Rogers ROM) don't differentiate the fact that it's an HSDPA connection, even though it is, and just show a generic "3G". So... rest assured, the H thing is not a bad thing.
I have been looking everywhere for information on this. Is pass-though possible with the Cingular 3125, using Cingular's newest ROM? When I plug my phone into my computer, it isn't able to see the Internet at all because that automatically disables GPRS. I would really like to use my laptop's much faster Wifi connection. If that isn't possible, can I at least keep GPRS on?
thanks in advance
Try from active sync's settings->connection settings to put-> My computer is connected with:
internet
Yes, that is set. Still no luck. Does this work for you? I remember one of my former Windows Mobile devices (I think the Motorolla MPX220) had an option for Pass-though in the settings, but I don't see it anywhere on the 3125.
I didn't have any problem with that. Now I use the greek qtek rom but before I used the cingular rom for some weeks and I never have problem with internet connection via active sync.
hrm... anyone currently running the current Cingular ROM able to help me out?
First to make clear that I used this rom that you talking about without internet connection problems.
Sometimes helps to uninstall, reboot and reinstall active sync. Like this some problems solved.
And if you have a bluetooth device on your pc you can try to connect to active sync via bluetooth, and check if the internet works in that case.
Ok so I have dcd. 3.2.6 and Radio 3.42.50 but for some reason I cannot associate to any wireless network. Even with the correct information. Any ideas? It just keeps trying to connect with no success.
JukEboXAuDiO said:
Ok so I have dcd. 3.2.6 and Radio 3.42.50 but for some reason I cannot associate to any wireless network. Even with the correct information. Any ideas? It just keeps trying to connect with no success.
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Wireless as in WIFI? Using the switch on the side?
Re: Radio and Wireless
I am also encountering a similar problem. If I stand next to the access point and try to connect to the AP, it fails or it connects but I can't connect to the internet(PIE always can not load page).
I changed the encryption from AES to WEP to no avail. Even went so far as to re flashing 3.2.6. I am also using the same radio as you.
Hopefully someone can shed some light on this problem.
Thanks,
Ed
I would take off all WEP and encryption and try to connect with it as a open WiFi. If you still can't connect then you have some other issues either with your WAP or maybe still with your phone. Then if it does connect then add the WEP encryption back on. You may have to change the type of WEP to one the phone supports. I just use MAC filtering so no one else can get on my wireless but scanners can see what is being passed around on my wireless. (mostly teenage girl stuff, I think a scanner would get bored really quick) LOL
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Wireless as in WIFI? Using the switch on the side?
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Yes using hte WIFI on the side.
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Yes using hte WIFI on the side.
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you do have the switch turned on, on the side of the phone and then go into the comm manager and at the bottom go into the Wireless LAN settings.
You might need to refresh or manually create the connection if your WAP doesn't broadcast its SSID.
I've been having problems with wi-fi too, mostly since my upgrade. I am on dcd 3.25 and radio 3.42.50. I can usually connect ok, but then either I can't connect to any web sites or I can surf for a few minutes and then it stops (although still shows connected). Since so many are on these (ROM and Radio), I am doubting that is the issue. It did work better on the prior versions of both, but again if not effecting others don't see how that can be the issue. Hopefully it is not a hardware issue since this is already my second phone (power button caved in on the last one, not much quality there). Any ideas?
Thanks,
Fletch
Fletchxda said:
I've been having problems with wi-fi too, mostly since my upgrade. I am on dcd 3.25 and radio 3.42.50. I can usually connect ok, but then either I can't connect to any web sites or I can surf for a few minutes and then it stops (although still shows connected). Since so many are on these (ROM and Radio), I am doubting that is the issue. It did work better on the prior versions of both, but again if not effecting others don't see how that can be the issue. Hopefully it is not a hardware issue since this is already my second phone (power button caved in on the last one, not much quality there). Any ideas?
Thanks,
Fletch
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Do you have anything else using your WAP? Just sounds more like your access point then your phone. I had a wireless router that would do that with any wireless device so I had to get a new one.
Unfortunately, there are 2 computers in my house that work fine of the router. It is also happening when I try to connect to wi-fi at work. I've also noticed that sometime it just won't connect. I am in the same room as the router now and it won't even register it. Doesn't even look that hard...searches for 2 seconds and stops. Very strange.
yes the switch is on and enabled in comm manager. It finds signals but can not connect to any of it.
You guys might want to try WiFiFoFum (should be around here somewhere) It will show all the WiFi APs and even use the GPS to log them. If they don't register there, then I would say try flashing the Radio and DCD's ROMs again. The only issue I had with WiFi is it wouldn't turn on with the hardware switch and I swapped out the phone.
Thanks, I'll give it a try....
Fletcher,
I've got the exact same problem. When I leave my AP open, it connects and stays connected. As soon as I switch over to WPA-PSK AES with an 8 character key, I get the symptoms that you describe. I can get to about 2 pages in PIE and then it takes a dump.
I'm on DCD 3.2.6 and radio 3.42.50. I don't have a solution, but at least wanted to let you know that you're not alone. It has to be something software related. I have a bunch of other clients that connect no problem with the same settings: PS3, Wii, laptop, PSP. I LOVE DCD roms, but may have to switch if I can't figure something out.
I am still having trouble connecting. It can see signals but not connect to any of them.
Tried wififofum. It sees the AP's and I can sometime connect. But no matter what it drops the connection within a few minutes. Then it won't reconnect or see any ap's (only looks for about 5 secs then stops). If I leave the switch off for a while and then try again, I can do the same thing all over again.
What do you think? A setting, a reg setting, broken phone? Thanks to any and all.....
-Fletch
Not sure if this helps, but I noticed that when it drops the internet connection (after 3-5 minutes), that when I look at WIFIFOFUM it still show the AP. A few time, it showed that the AP was no longer available, but the graphic at the top still shows connected by the phone. It seems like a software or hardware problem with the phone, but I'm not sure which. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.
-Fletch
This really really pi##es me off, as where I live I get 1x data, & usually use my home wireless (wifi).
Recieved the pro, and activated it. It seems disabled by being activated by alltel. I even stumped the blackberry adept person at the local store enough that they switched out the phone, I walked to next door (motel) used the free wireless (to prove the wireless would even function) then let him activate it and headed home (30+ miles into the wilderness). got home and again I cant get Crap wifi to work.
Home is wireless b, it connects, can be seen on the 'simple' 2 wire wireless appliance but the PRO, will not see or try to send data through it. turned off security and everything on the wireless for testing. I can check, but I know the pass for the motel, and I could try again, but am definitely sure that this AINT the issue--> again the phone wouldnt connect at the motel (least not the pre exchanged one) with me or the rep at Altel either, while it was activated and on alltel.
who to call? Any help out there?
my 6800 will still wifi, at anyplace there is a signal and that I know the passcodes or is open.
yes I asked this, at alltel-howard forums, but would think you guys here know more (on second thought, when I remembered about all the stuff you do here, I know I probably should've posted here 1st, but Im kinda mad at the moment!)
Pretty adept at computers, I do IS as my real job, anything I can do to help trouble shoot? yeah the 6800 has been flashed & I even noobed around with cooking a few time. appreciate any help you guys
i Have a touch pro and a touch diamond, both under 2 weeks old and the wifi works fine with both of them, maybe you should try a custom rom and see if they changes anything. but there is no reason it shouldnt work with the stock rom
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i Have a touch pro and a touch diamond, both under 2 weeks old and the wifi works fine with both of them, maybe you should try a custom rom and see if they changes anything. but there is no reason it shouldnt work with the stock rom
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goony,
Is it an Alltel? are you positive that wifi is working, not the "data" connection with alltel towers (cell call)? My proof is that if I goto my basment, I have no cell service so not any data connction, ONLY WIFI (that is where my wireless router is. that is when I found out the 1st time. Everything else looks right, on the phone it says it is connected, on the router I can see it on the connected devices list.
I have my issue that I believe, that it is some setting that Alltel is setting... like I said the phone would connect via wifi until the phone activated. When I activated (full unlimited data package is on this phone) the phone fully rebooted on its own, 3 times as if getting updated via data plan. Im not talking about the 1st time turn on customizations, those were done before I tested the wifi at the motel lobby... For instance, the volume control buttons - the display app were obviously modified, I am not positive what else was.
I'd LOVE to try custom rom, if I wasnt right in the period of time I can get my money back, or not. after that I will...
yes they are alltel, and to test the wifi i just connected it to my router and then turned of my alltel data and it stayed connected so i am positive the wifi works. you can still use a custom rom under your return period, if you want to return just relock it.
I wanted to double check myself sting to make sure i was realy getting wifi, so i connected and went to speedtest.net and did a speed test and sure enough it showed my isp as roadrunner(my home provider). Have you had this problem with multiple phones? are you checking the internet option when it connects? and do you have it diconnected from the pc? my wifi wont work on my diamond hooked to a pc.
Has nothing to do with alltel. Maybe with the rom or the phone. Now I hope you're not waiting for a pop up to show itself on the main screen asking if you want to connect because you could wait forever. Go to comm manager enable wifi/ go to start->settings->connections->wifi and make sure options are set to "all available." If you can even see wireless networks on the list, the wifi is functioning correctly and there is a router settings conflict. If you don't see networks on that list in wifi, then there is a rom/hardware problem.
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Has nothing to do with alltel. Maybe with the rom or the phone. Now I hope you're not waiting for a pop up to show itself on the main screen asking if you want to connect because you could wait forever. Go to comm manager enable wifi/ go to start->settings->connections->wifi and make sure options are set to "all available." If you can even see wireless networks on the list, the wifi is functioning correctly and there is a router settings conflict. If you don't see networks on that list in wifi, then there is a rom/hardware problem.
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Hey thanks!
But, it is the Stock shipped rom, I have my HTC 6800 right next to this one, connected and surfing the web, both show up when in the home WIFI router config as connected, yet the pro sends NO DATA to ie or opera, (cant locate any webpages) or any app that uses internet/data.Unless there is something I need to do with PRO that I never had to do with the 6800 (mogul) that I just flashed back to stock shipped rom, ready to sell on ebay...
what I dont know is, well, most of the people wifi to tether a laptop or something, I dont! Sure that will be neat in the future, but RIGHT NOW, Just I use WIFI when I am at home and dont even have signal or evdo near me... (remote locations that I live, the tower coverage sucks out here in ks...) Got to fix this soon, or this Beyotch is going back to alltel.
Another thing, this bad boy pulled this crap, as soon as alltel activated the device (so I could use it as my phone!) when it was NOT activated, the wifi worked (proven at the motel next door to the Alltel store I exchanged this phone). BTW, I was able to test it on the 1st phone shipped to me, while it was activated, it pulled the same thing, when he unactivated the phone, we could almost pickup the wifi from the motel next door (distance was the only issue I think now looking back) but seemed like a chip problem.
Where I got screwed was we believed the wifi to be bad on the 1st phone. So he got out a new phone, and before we activated it, I went and tested the wifi, it worked on the 2nd phone. I thought wall was fine, it worked. then I had him activate it, assuming that proved I will be able to use the wifi. So I leave the store thinking OK wifi works. I get home, and again unable to use my home networking wifi to open web or apps. unacceptable. Yet the 6800 does and still works flawlessly (as long as you slide the wifi sider on side to on {inside joke}).
follw me better now?
What brand router do you have? How many devices are wireless? And it connects to other locations but are you sending and recieving data? Try this link http://www.wmwifirouter.com/trial/ and install on 6800 if you are not normally around hotspots. This will test the t-pro's ability to send and recieve information via wifi. Now it is sounding like an IP address conflict.
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What brand router do you have? How many devices are wireless? And it connects to other locations but are you sending and recieving data? Try this link http://www.wmwifirouter.com/trial/ and install on 6800 if you are not normally around hotspots. This will test the t-pro's ability to send and recieve information via wifi. Now it is sounding like an IP address conflict.
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Sweeny, Im in the houshold router (made by 2wire) I can see it (the Pro as well as the 6800) each get an ip. (I work In IT, so I know what you are talking about in ip conflicts, all that.) I have even set the router to manually setup IPs now, then set the ip inside the Pro, as well as the default gateway, dns all that.) I'm telling ya, it is more like it doesnt know the DNS or the gateway (just like I disable internet surfing on the computers at work that I still must use networking)
I copied the DNS and everything from a working laptop (ipconfig -all) on a wireless laptop today, and still as if it was disabled.
This weekend i will test the dang thing tethering with my notebook i'll bring home from work (use the pro as the internet access). if it wont tether either, then I think allHell is doing something. Again if the device is DE-Activated I will wifi... {I'll bet you $$}. I might call alltel, tomarrow night, and try that. I'll have them inactivate it and if it suddenly works, then the question is, what do I do with alltel? they dont have the right to disable hotspot usage do they?
I feel I feel the presence of VERIZON already in Alltel, Luke is turning to the dark side. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
You all thought I was off my crock...
http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/2073117/Touch+Pro+WiFi?t=anon lots of folks posting same problems it looks like.
Need that group of people who can create a kitchen, and hcak tomtoms, to help us with this PLEASE!
No I don't, think you're off your crock I just know how frustrating problems like this can be. Here is what I suggest you do. And if this doesn't work exchange the phone or try a different router. I know what you're thinking....not the router. Truth is might be. Its just like wireless adapters in wii's and ps3's they simply will not work with a handfull of routers even though not clearly documented.
Anyway, change router to static Ip's, safer anyway.
Specifiy gateway, primary and secondary dns, and limit your ip's within 100 available obtainables. Use a 64 bit wep encryption. Change the channel of your router's broadcast to 1 or 11. Use only simple gateway ip range, not pure server. If you need me to provide you with example settings then pm me because I do not want to broadcast them via forum
Good luck.
Dont take this the wrong way....but are you positive that you are disabling the DATA Connection in Comm Manager?
I have had the alltel touch pro since the second they hit the store. I have used 3 of them since and they all work perfectly on wifi. I primarily use wifi and use diamond tweak to activate the wifi standby so wifi stays connected in standby like data does by default and use modaco nodata to disable data as I live in a house that gets a very lowsignal from the tower and eats my battery superfast if I use data. I have a router in the house and one in my office detached from my home and when I had my mogul it often would not switch between routers successfully requiring me to manually connect more often than not. All the Touch Pros connect superfast and switch automatically. I am running mightyrom 4.12 and telus radio which is light years better than stock with signal, speed and batterylife, but even when I was on stock for about 3 months there were absolutely no wifi issues.
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Dont take this the wrong way....but are you positive that you are disabling the DATA Connection in Comm Manager?
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Not sure which of us you are asking this queston of...
Thanks, for the help so far...
I was having the same issue (Alltel and all).
I found this post in the MS forums:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsmobile/thread/561f18a8-5f64-4359-957e-adb003229f1d
Essentially, it says to "Navigate to START/SETTINGS/Connections Tab/Connections icon/Advanced Tab
Press Select Networks Button
At the top it says "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:"
You want to press on the drop down and choose My Work Network"
You need to tell the system that the Work Network connects to the internet as well. While this doesn't seem like the ideal solution (there should be a faster way to switch it, or it should do it automatically depending on location), it did work for me. I'm sure there's a much more sleek solution out there, though.
Btw... I hope I'm posting this correctly. I'm more a reader than a poster.
Ooop... one more thing. Its non-sleekatude rests with the fact that when you want to switch between wifi and your data plan, you have to go through the whole process, and switch the active network from My Work Network to Alltell Wireless. This is where I was hoping for a better solution. As I say, it does work, but it seems like it should involve less hassle.
Might add this to the WIKI, I dunno but there could be a few more thousand users out there on ATT or SWB using the modem/routers that they shipped when you got DSL more than a year ago...
Everyone that has the older 2 wire brand, wifi modem/router that came with SBC (now ATT). Wierd I know. But Mine has just been replaced by the newer version of that modem/router. and I will be dammed, it works. but the phone wont work with the older ones. Mine was the 2WIRE 1000hw model. they are shipping new models, and finally the phone will work with the wifi on that new router.
Thought it might be nice to know...
alltel model uses wifi just fine
My TP from alltel works just fine with wi-fi all i ever do is turn it on and then select which connection i want to make ...really quite nice...maybe you need to exchange yours...
On further testing of my own setup, I'm thinking my issue was the router. I had done several fixes all at once, and cited the wrong fix as the working one. I happened to reset my router at the same time I did the above suggested fix.
I thought it had to be the device, as my HTC Apache never had an issue with the router, but after resetting the router, and going back to the original settings on the TP, I'm having no problems connecting to the network. I wish I could pinpoint the exact conflict between the two, but now that I have it working, I'm not messing with it.
My suggestion is to back up your router settings, reset the router, and see what happens. Or test your wifi on someone else's network.
Isolating a network conflict can be one of the least fun things to do, but from everything I've seen here and in other forums (and my experience with it) I'm going to say that's the issue, and not the TP alone.
I don't think it likes your router being wireless B, you should try it on a wireless G router before Ebaying it.
Last Thursday when opening spb online i got an wininet error,and since then i cant get a data connection anymore. i did a couple of hard resets ,and flashed a different rom,flashed a different radio, nothings helps. if configured everything as normal for 3G use,and when i turn my phone on and i have 3G receptions,as soon as i want use data the 3G symbol changes into "H" for 1 second and then goes back to 3G. no connection through the radio whatsoever,also not throug GPRS,just no internet anymore
Anybody has an idea whats happened or whats wrong? and what i can do to get it working again?
any help is much apriciated!!
htckaiseruser said:
Last Thursday when opening spb online i got an wininet error,and since then i cant get a data connection anymore. i did a couple of hard resets ,and flashed a different rom,flashed a different radio, nothings helps. if configured everything as normal for 3G use,and when i turn my phone on and i have 3G receptions,as soon as i want use data the 3G symbol changes into "H" for 1 second and then goes back to 3G. no connection through the radio whatsoever,also not throug GPRS,just no internet anymore
Anybody has an idea whats happened or whats wrong? and what i can do to get it working again?
any help is much apriciated!!
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When you installed new ROM did you run connection setup and then disable proxy? That is usually why people have no data connection
My data "works" but is very iffy. I'm finding that a lot of times I can't even make a call without having to close my data connection. I'm on 3G ("H") so this shouldn't be a problem.
And what sucks is later WM6.5 roms are having difficulties closing out the data connection automatically. I always pull my phone out of my pocket and see the data has been connected for like 4 hours. I disable Data in the HTC Connection Manager but it still reconnects automatically. I think its my email opening the data connection, but it should close after so many minutes. I've noticed this on several of the later roms.
I have my email setup through a UC XML file on first boot. Is it just me?
You may want to try flashing a new radio and then the appropriate Rilphone.dll. Maybe this will break things free. You do not even loose any data in the process.
Doug M.