Hey guys
I have a problem where my the backlight of my touch keys appear dull pink instead of bright white. (I'm referring to the buttons next to the home key)
Is this a defect? Should I exchange? Anyone else have come across this problem?
Thanks
yes that would be a defect; have you got any pictures?
I tried taking a photo but it appears white on camera. It definitely looks pink in person
not normal. mine look snow white
Ive seen several SGS2's due to the yellow tinting issue and I've seen only 1 unit that had a really bright backlight at the same time that unit didnt not have any screen defects for me, only 1 out of over a dozen seen in person.
I can confirm my touch keys look rather pinkish than white, though it doesn't bother me.
yeah i agree with sp1tfire, I hadn't noticed but now that you mentioned it there is a definite slightly pinkish colour. Not that it really bothers me though.
John
Mine are light grey. Which is fine by me.
Sell it on eBay as having had a button customization. There are all sorts of idiots out there.
Mine appears pink too. I thought it was the way it was supposed to look as I don't know anyone else who I can comapare mine too. Although compared to an SGS1 it looks a lot more dull and pink - not white like the SGS1. I guess it is a defect then? I'll probably just leave it on account of the hassle it will be to send it back and not very important to me. I also have them always turned off as well
Mine r like this too I've heard people say on sgs forum its to do with the screen that's aload of rubish. If you look closely you can see its over spray from the black (dark purple) check it out yourselfs get a magnifying glass.
Hmm seems a lot of ppl have pink buttons. Yeah compared to the sgs its not as bright. probably because theres no grey outline for the buttons painted on the screen. On the sgs2 its completely produced through backlighting. hmmm ill wait a few weeks cos its a real hassle to get it replaced
Edit: The keys dont even turn on anymore! it seems the light blew out just a few mins ago! definitely a defect there
Edit2: nvm it seems it auto turns off on low batt. Recharging made it go on again. however its still pink
my buttons appear pink-ish too. but it doesn't bother me and i just love this phone, so i wouldn't send it back for this tiny issue. also, my previous phone was a htc blackstone, with a standard lcd screen, and it might just be, the buttons look pink, because the white on the screen is so bright and clear i haven't had a fully black screen w/o any backlight and the buttons light up. probably, they'll look white then.
Pinkish touch key is kind of weird.... I was expecting snow white in color as well.
Hello all,
opened my white 920 today and I fiddled around with it for abit. I just noticed however that the backlit buttons have a very obvious yellow/green tint to it. When I compare it with full brightness white on the screen (as the buttons arent affected by it), it is very obvious.
Do you guys have something similar issue, or does your backlit buttons appear as crispy white as when you have full brightness on your screen?
yeah, i have the grey 920. the buttons are really yellow... im trying to ignore it, but if other people have pure white backlit keys, i will send it back i guess.
faeredia said:
yeah, i have the grey 920. the buttons are really yellow... im trying to ignore it, but if other people have pure white backlit keys, i will send it back i guess.
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The only "positive" I can see about this is if you're watching the phone with tired eyes (when waking up in the morning in the dark or something) and you have low brightness but the 3 buttons are shining with the full crispy white and might hurt/annoy your eyes (unless the light can be completely turned off somehow). Yellow tint is after all more "calm" to the eyes. But other than that I guess it should be considered a defective unit.
Read though from a different user that his keys starting becoming more white after his 3 days of ownership. How long have you had the phone?
Compared full brightness to my old Desire HD, and the DHD white appears way more crisp and whiter. DHD uses super LCD. I thought this was supposed to be a top device, dafuq is this????
My black 920 does not have tinted buttons, my yellow one does. Might be an idea to add the color you are seeing this on to your posts, I am assuming the non-black versions have this ?
this'll be my second week with it. i played with a black one in store at JB, the buttons seemed pretty white. havent seen a grey one like mine in store though, so nothing to compare it to. might send an email off to nokia about it actually.
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talking to a Romel via Nokia Chat right now, he has so far said there is nothing defective with my phone. but he did just ask if changing the brightness settings on the phone also changes the brightness of the capacitive buttons. for me, i actually dont see any change. how about you guys?
pencilcase said:
My black 920 does not have tinted buttons, my yellow one does. Might be an idea to add the color you are seeing this on to your posts, I am assuming the non-black versions have this ?
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I have a White model. I compared full brightness with my old Desire HD. The white colors on DHD is much, much more white (white as snow) when put next to the Lumia 920 that has a slight - yet obvious - tint to it. The buttons are even more tinted.
faeredia said:
this'll be my second week with it. i played with a black one in store at JB, the buttons seemed pretty white. havent seen a grey one like mine in store though, so nothing to compare it to. might send an email off to nokia about it actually.
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talking to a Romel via Nokia Chat right now, he has so far said there is nothing defective with my phone. but he did just ask if changing the brightness settings on the phone also changes the brightness of the capacitive buttons. for me, i actually dont see any change. how about you guys?
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Changing brightness for screen does not change brightness on buttons. I could live with tinted buttons for when using phone in the dark since you cant turn buttons off or lower them. But as soon as I saw the whites (on screen) on my Desire HD were far superior, I called for a replacement.
I dont know if simply the DHD has a better display, but I dont wanna roll the risk when im gonna be having this phone for the next 2 years. DHD uses Super LCD while Lumia 920 uses IPS TFT, and as far as I know IPS is supposed to be better. Either way, im hoping the replacement will be different. If the screen (not buttons) is gonna be the same on replacement, im simply gonna assume its how its supposed to be. Just kinda sad though how my 2 year old DHD is showing better, more crisp colors than the brand new Lumia 920.
I have taken three pictures with a bad digital camera that might help people tell the difference.
(sry for blurry pic 2 and 3)
Picture 1 (lumia down most)
Picture 2 (lumia on right)
Picture 3 (lumia down most)
Try look at one screen, then quickly the other, then back to the first one... Keep jumping between the two screens quickly with your eyes and you will notice the very different kind of whites the displays are showing, you can tell the Lumia is not showing as "snow white" as DHD. Might not seem like a big deal on pictures, but it is very noticeable in person and a shame for such a high end device.
Nope.. My friend has it.. and they are completely white..
Waiting for replacement. Will receive either tomorrow or monday. I will then compare the current device with the new (since I have to use the same packaging im getting with the new, to ship in the other). Will update here when I did it all.
I have a white 920 and yellow tinted buttons. I thought it was just supposed to be that way...
spenzher said:
I have a white 920 and yellow tinted buttons. I thought it was just supposed to be that way...
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I think it is. The 920 has the same chrome/silver over the soft keys as the Nokia and att labels. It's a common belief that the chrome alters the color of the white leds.
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spenzher said:
I have a white 920 and yellow tinted buttons. I thought it was just supposed to be that way...
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n7slc said:
I think it is. The 920 has the same chrome/silver over the soft keys as the Nokia and att labels. It's a common belief that the chrome alters the color of the white leds.
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Since so many wrote that they have pure white backlit keys on their devices (including white devices) I simply didnt wanna deal with it. :laugh:
Should get replacement tomorrow and I will report back.
Replacement update:
After receiving my replacement I can confirm that if you have a phone with yellow tinted buttons, your device's screen will most likely also be affected. I currently have the faulty and new device at hand, and from putting the devices side by side with full brightness while viewing a blank white page, I can easily tell the new device has a much brighter screen, the white is... way more white, while the faulty device has what seems to be a blue tint over it, and a lower brightness overall. Because of this, all colors are affected. Not only do they not stand out as much, but some brighter colors (such as yellow), will with the blue tint appear darker.
Note though, this is all with two devices side by side. Even if you have none to compare with, I can tell you the difference is very noticeable. I will recommend anyone who believe they have yellow tinted buttons, are therefore might be affected on the screen aswell, to get a replacement!
To make yellow tinted buttons most obvious, put your device on full brightness and go to a white blank page! Now look at your buttons and compare its "whiteness" to whats on the screen!
Note: The buttons will never be as bright and white as the screen. A non-faulty device will have a dark-layered-white (or they would sting your eyes when you used low brightness), while a faulty will have a most obvious yellow tint to it!
If anyone has any questions or something they want comparing from the two devices I have (up to 4 more days), please let me know.
3 Buttons - 3 colors ...
Juusuhako said:
If anyone has any questions or something they want comparing from the two devices I have (up to 4 more days), please let me know.
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I received my 920 last Saturday. My 920 looks fine. Right now i notice the color stuff - or the "maybe" color stuff ...
The arrow on the left looks nearly white.
The windows symbol in the middle looks white (a touch of light green/yellow?).
The magnifier on the right looks nearly white.
Any idea?
Thx, SP
WinSP said:
I received my 920 last Saturday. My 920 looks fine. Right now i notice the color stuff - or the "maybe" color stuff ...
The arrow on the left looks nearly white.
The windows symbol in the middle looks white (a touch of light green/yellow?).
The magnifier on the right looks nearly white.
Any idea?
Thx, SP
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What do you mean "nearly white"? A non-faulty device's buttons will be a darker tint of white (never as white and bright as on the screen). Do you know how cars sometimes has tinted windows you cant see through? Imagine the glass layer below over the buttons is tinted as such, making sure the light does not come through as strong, but remain white.
In regard to telling if it is faulty, all I can recommend is to turn brightness to full, make the theme white and then compare. Just keep looking back and forth on the screen and the buttons, you will indeed notice if they have a yellow tint to them, but im not sure with "nearly white".
Can you maybe go to a store and compare with a display model?
In the end its up to you if you wanna go for a replacement. If they're offering a free replacement you can take use of it, and if its the same, you can always ship the new device back (unless you're keen on the new one incase your current has scratches or whatever)
White seems not to be white...
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What do you mean "nearly white"? ... im not sure with "nearly white".
Can you maybe go to a store and compare with a display model?
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Thanks for your reply! I compared with a display model and your right! White seems not to be white on my 920. My Lumia looks like there is dust in the display... It is pin sharp - but black is a bit grey - white is not full white. All the colors seems to be a bit "overlain by" a blue film...
I did not recognized it before - cos i did not compare the display with a different model...
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Thanks for your reply! I compared with a display model and your right! White seems not to be white on my 920. My Lumia looks like there is dust in the display... It is pin sharp - but black is a bit grey - white is not full white. All the colors seems to be a bit "overlain by" a blue film...
I did not recognized it before - cos i did not compare the display with a different model...
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Good to know you could compare and identify the issue. I hope you will get a replacement. Know though that I recieved 2 phones with this issue. Im not sure if Nokia shipped out a batch of faulty devices, or if they're using different suppliers for their screens. Either way, you shouldnt ship your first phone back until you get the second, so that you can compare them and make sure the new isnt faulty/"from-a-bad-batch".
Well for me the white on the screen is totally white, no worries there but on the touch keys I can see a shade of yellowish tint on them
I put the display on full brightness and checked this...I have white lumia 920 model RM-821
The screen brightness and white levels are unrelated to the yellow tint on the buttons. I have a flawless phone and yellow buttons.
All new batches are having tinted buttons ( yellowish~green ). It was done on purpose to avoid disturbance at night because they do not dim when the screen adjusts itself to a lower level of brightness and that could potentially annoy you when the screen is set to low brightness at night.
It's how the phone is supposed to work. Now please don't go exchange your device if you have the so called " perfectly white buttons " for a tinted one. There are other things to worry about in a phone.
jagdesh said:
Well for me the white on the screen is totally white, no worries there but on the touch keys I can see a shade of yellowish tint on them
I put the display on full brightness and checked this...I have white lumia 920 model RM-821
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If I only look at a faulty device, the white also appears... white. First when you have them side-by-side do you realize it. You would need to compare in a store like someone else did in this thread I believe, and he got a confirm on a faulty device.
Xeon said:
The screen brightness and white levels are unrelated to the yellow tint on the buttons. I have a flawless phone and yellow buttons.
All new batches are having tinted buttons ( yellowish~green ). It was done on purpose to avoid disturbance at night because they do not dim when the screen adjusts itself to a lower level of brightness and that could potentially annoy you when the screen is set to low brightness at night.
It's how the phone is supposed to work. Now please don't go exchange your device if you have the so called " perfectly white buttons " for a tinted one. There are other things to worry about in a phone.
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No, I wont exchange. Like I mentioned I do not mind the yellow tinted buttons. I would prefer the white ones, but I cant go on exchanging every second/third day.
Thanks for the info though.
Hello guys still waiting my Droid DNA here in Greece Europe...Customs Clearance really play with my nerves...so i want you to know that when i will get the phone...i will dissaembly it....The LEDs are on the small bottom bored which is with the speaker. I need to solder them off (there is two of them) and then solder red leds back on. Oh and the leds are not from the lcd screen, they are seperate. i know how to solder and that's the only way to change the leds....i have 2 questions though and if you can answer i will be glad...i will make a guide when i will do it....the 2 questions are:
1)If i put multicolor LEDS is there any app to control them so i can put what colour i want any time?
2)if i dissaembly the phone and then re-assembly it the construction will be still solid..or for example the back cover will be cracky etc?
Yes, there are apps in the market currently to play with leds. If you search you should be able to find it.
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Hello guys still waiting my Droid DNA here in Greece Europe...Customs Clearance really play with my nerves...so i want you to know that when i will get the phone...i will dissaembly it....The LEDs are on the small bottom bored which is with the speaker. I need to solder them off (there is two of them) and then solder red leds back on. Oh and the leds are not from the lcd screen, they are seperate. i know how to solder and that's the only way to change the leds....i have 2 questions though and if you can answer i will be glad...i will make a guide when i will do it....the 2 questions are:
1)If i put multicolor LEDS is there any app to control them so i can put what colour i want any time?
2)if i dissaembly the phone and then re-assembly it the construction will be still solid..or for example the back cover will be cracky etc?
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1), no you can only change the base color. you cannot add multicolored LEDs, and expect to control them with no control hardware.
2) there is a very good chance the back will creak, it IS a PITA to get it back to perfect. but doable.
3) (my additions) if you are not using a fine tip solder station, OR hot air, then good luck not destroying what you are soldering. and in general, solder paste is the only way to go with SMC. you can do it with wire, but the chances of overheat, or flux burning away is VERY high. i've already soldered a few things on this phone, I will tell you this is by far the cheapest PCB i've touched. pads peel off, etc.
Djmk4 said:
Hello guys still waiting my Droid DNA here in Greece Europe...Customs Clearance really play with my nerves...so i want you to know that when i will get the phone...i will dissaembly it....The LEDs are on the small bottom bored which is with the speaker. I need to solder them off (there is two of them) and then solder red leds back on. Oh and the leds are not from the lcd screen, they are seperate. i know how to solder and that's the only way to change the leds....i have 2 questions though and if you can answer i will be glad...i will make a guide when i will do it....the 2 questions are:
1)If i put multicolor LEDS is there any app to control them so i can put what colour i want any time?
2)if i dissaembly the phone and then re-assembly it the construction will be still solid..or for example the back cover will be cracky etc?
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SMD soldering is always a drag, make sure you have a good quality iron up for the job. Also make sure to use flux, rose alloy, and a nice new tip. It is also crucial to use an iron which can be grounded.
To be perfectly honest you should opt for adding a sheet of transparent vinyl film, or something similar, between the LED's and the glass.
Here are some links which might help:
[HACKS] OG Droid gets blue capacitive buttons, charing LED swap, and sound reactive LED!
DIY : Custom Colored Capacitive Buttons
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Yes, there are apps in the market currently to play with leds. If you search you should be able to find it.
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This is false. The apps deal with notification and other LEDs which are already multicolor and have a supporting hardware and software interface, the apps just use the existing interfaces. What the OP wants to do is impossible as there is no interface to control the hardware aside from off and on. Additionally multicolor LEDs are a single physical thing but actually have multiple LEDs in the physical package. Each individual color needs its own power source which would also not work with the OP's project. If he attached the multicolored LED he'd likely have all the colors lit at once all the time.
@OP, use a single color and be careful. Soldering SMDs manually is always a challenge but can be done if you have a steady enough hand.
Hi guys, I wanna buy white version of MOTOROLA MOTO E (1st generation). But.. Do we see (white) led notification in white version of phone?
I'll be grateful for replies
Yup, there are in fact 2 white lights...
The less bright one works out of the box and flashes for notifications;
the brighter one is always off, but if you're rooted it can be mapped to system events depending on the kernel (make it a charging or disk access light!)
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Yup, there are in fact 2 white lights...
The less bright one works out of the box and flashes for notifications;
the brighter one is always off, but if you're rooted it can be mapped to system events depending on the kernel (make it a charging or disk access light!)
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Thanks for reply!
Is it visible during daylight at white phone? I'm worry that led notification in black version of phone can be so much better visible than white version of phone, isn't it?
He wants to know of its visible. I dont think that you HAVE to do the mods to use the phone
phonneq said:
I'm worry that led notification in black version of phone can be so much better visible than white version of phone, isn't it?
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It will likely have less contrast, but the led still illuminates (unlike the one on the Xperia U, which actually looks like a painted disk outside of a pitch dark room!!) -- and a semitransparent white paint over the LED area will also probably attenuate the light less than a semitransparent black one!
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I dont think that you HAVE to do the mods to use the phone
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Nope!
There is a black hole technology integrated into the white version. Black one has a simple white LED. But on the white one, when a notification arrives, a black hole will be created at the top right of the bezel. It appears like "black light" (or better call it a singularity) and is clearly visible because of the white background
Well, jokes apart, it is clearly visible even in the sun, of course you will need to look at the phone in the sun in order to know it's blinking. In the dark, it illuminates my room. Don't worry, go for it. White looks classy
thanks a lot guys,
so i'm going to buy white version