Hello guys still waiting my Droid DNA here in Greece Europe...Customs Clearance really play with my nerves...so i want you to know that when i will get the phone...i will dissaembly it....The LEDs are on the small bottom bored which is with the speaker. I need to solder them off (there is two of them) and then solder red leds back on. Oh and the leds are not from the lcd screen, they are seperate. i know how to solder and that's the only way to change the leds....i have 2 questions though and if you can answer i will be glad...i will make a guide when i will do it....the 2 questions are:
1)If i put multicolor LEDS is there any app to control them so i can put what colour i want any time?
2)if i dissaembly the phone and then re-assembly it the construction will be still solid..or for example the back cover will be cracky etc?
Yes, there are apps in the market currently to play with leds. If you search you should be able to find it.
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Djmk4 said:
Hello guys still waiting my Droid DNA here in Greece Europe...Customs Clearance really play with my nerves...so i want you to know that when i will get the phone...i will dissaembly it....The LEDs are on the small bottom bored which is with the speaker. I need to solder them off (there is two of them) and then solder red leds back on. Oh and the leds are not from the lcd screen, they are seperate. i know how to solder and that's the only way to change the leds....i have 2 questions though and if you can answer i will be glad...i will make a guide when i will do it....the 2 questions are:
1)If i put multicolor LEDS is there any app to control them so i can put what colour i want any time?
2)if i dissaembly the phone and then re-assembly it the construction will be still solid..or for example the back cover will be cracky etc?
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1), no you can only change the base color. you cannot add multicolored LEDs, and expect to control them with no control hardware.
2) there is a very good chance the back will creak, it IS a PITA to get it back to perfect. but doable.
3) (my additions) if you are not using a fine tip solder station, OR hot air, then good luck not destroying what you are soldering. and in general, solder paste is the only way to go with SMC. you can do it with wire, but the chances of overheat, or flux burning away is VERY high. i've already soldered a few things on this phone, I will tell you this is by far the cheapest PCB i've touched. pads peel off, etc.
Djmk4 said:
Hello guys still waiting my Droid DNA here in Greece Europe...Customs Clearance really play with my nerves...so i want you to know that when i will get the phone...i will dissaembly it....The LEDs are on the small bottom bored which is with the speaker. I need to solder them off (there is two of them) and then solder red leds back on. Oh and the leds are not from the lcd screen, they are seperate. i know how to solder and that's the only way to change the leds....i have 2 questions though and if you can answer i will be glad...i will make a guide when i will do it....the 2 questions are:
1)If i put multicolor LEDS is there any app to control them so i can put what colour i want any time?
2)if i dissaembly the phone and then re-assembly it the construction will be still solid..or for example the back cover will be cracky etc?
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SMD soldering is always a drag, make sure you have a good quality iron up for the job. Also make sure to use flux, rose alloy, and a nice new tip. It is also crucial to use an iron which can be grounded.
To be perfectly honest you should opt for adding a sheet of transparent vinyl film, or something similar, between the LED's and the glass.
Here are some links which might help:
[HACKS] OG Droid gets blue capacitive buttons, charing LED swap, and sound reactive LED!
DIY : Custom Colored Capacitive Buttons
droidxrooting said:
Yes, there are apps in the market currently to play with leds. If you search you should be able to find it.
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This is false. The apps deal with notification and other LEDs which are already multicolor and have a supporting hardware and software interface, the apps just use the existing interfaces. What the OP wants to do is impossible as there is no interface to control the hardware aside from off and on. Additionally multicolor LEDs are a single physical thing but actually have multiple LEDs in the physical package. Each individual color needs its own power source which would also not work with the OP's project. If he attached the multicolored LED he'd likely have all the colors lit at once all the time.
@OP, use a single color and be careful. Soldering SMDs manually is always a challenge but can be done if you have a steady enough hand.
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[Q] Tactile stickers/decals for non-illuminated standards "android" buttons?
Hello,
I find it really annoying that I can't feel or see the standard four "android" buttons at night. Has anyone found aftermarket stickers or decals that I can place over the buttons to provide some tactile feedback in the dark? I can't find anything like this anywhere.
Thanks
I like the idea of some type of vinyl decal or something. Put that on and then put a screen protector on top of it maybe... Anyway, seems like someone would make something.
I also like the idea of making them backlit.
Other people have dealt with this various ways including glueing stuff to the android buttons.
And another person superglued some tubing to the side of the tablet...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948313
And someone else used glow in the dark puffy paint...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12306949&postcount=9
I wish there was a mod to add some kind of LED underneath.
Or install button savior. Not as convenient, but very easy to use.
I'm using TnT Lite and it has soft buttons on the screen, which definitely are convenient. I was mainly wanting this for the tactile feel.
If we were to scratch the paint off of the back if the buttons and then punch a little hole in the seal around the screen maybe that would allow enough light to bleed through to light em up.
but what would I know. Haven't even got mine yet. :'(
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I was at Office Max tonight and I picked up some clear hole reinforcements. These are the little sticky rings you put on paper when the punch hole has torn out but you want them to stay in the binder. Turns out they are just the right size to go over the buttons and cheap so you can mess up and put them on many times over.
The button labels are a little to the right of center. From a foot away you can't see the rings at all (probably even less if I had cleaned the tablet good before sticking them on). And you can "feel" the buttons very easily. Now on the other hand, feeling them can push them if you aren't careful. Running your finger up the screen edge (not the device edge) seems to work best.
Cheap to try and simple to reverse if you don't like it.
that idea looks like a winner to me, unless someone is making glow in the dark stickers resembling those icons
I was in a computer store the other day and saw "glow in the dark" keyboard stickers. They were in a few florescent looking colors.
Not cheap, but I was in a mood to spend money so I bought them. I figured an arrow key on the back button, the "Home" button on the home key and then use two generic keys for Menu and search.
Unfortunately, they don't really glow in the dark! They "catch" light off the monitor the keyboard is sitting in front of. Of course, on the tablets on a plane the monitor is shooting the light in the right direction. So if there is any ambient light you can see them. But if you really are in the dark, nada.
Also they look kind of tacky. Part of that is that I'm not artistic and so I didn't get them as lined up as someone crafty would. But even then they look tacky. On top of that I am now afraid to give it a good spray with cleaner. So I think they are coming off but thought I'd take a picture first.
The clear hole stickers I mentioned earlier are not very useful either because you have to "feel" them and if you feel the buttons you've pressed them so too late.
By the way the picture also shows a Skinomi screen protector on. Crystal clear except for one blemish on the far left side off the visible part of the screen
Picture is a little fuzzy but you get the idea.
http://www.myglowkeys.com/
Of course, I didn't read the FAQ online in the store (smart phone, duh). It clearly says there that they don't really glow. You'd think the packaging would have to reflect that.
My solution was to take a razor blade and make an ever so slight cut into the plastic bordering the screen. I made two, one next to the home button and one next to the back button. Now when I need to find a button in the dark I just slide my thumb down the side and feel for the nick in the plastic. The "damage" to the plastic is imperceptible and it doesn't limit the cases I can use down the line (the way gluing those buttons on the side would).
wd5gnr said:
The clear hole stickers I mentioned earlier are not very useful either because you have to "feel" them and if you feel the buttons you've pressed them so too late.
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Why not stick them on the side next to the buttons instead over the buttons ?
Why not just get the glow in the dark stars package?
LEDs backlight for the Android keys
cobrast6 said:
I wish there was a mod to add some kind of LED underneath.
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A user here modded his Gtablet (which is now my Gtablet) to include LED backlighting.
His write-up on the mod is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899132&highlight=LEDs
- Michael
Button Savior placement
I've been pleased with using Button Savior, not for it's buttons, but for it's placement. I position it in line with the menu button, which makes it very easy to know where the Home, Menu, and Back are. Free and clean, though I do sometimes inadvertently trigger the Button Savior menu.
I would prefer a way to disable these buttons because i am always touch the search button by accident
adam714 said:
I would prefer a way to disable these buttons because i am always touch the search button by accident
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Search Button Remapper on market.
Here are some photos of Nexus 10 with backcover removed, you can see the screen is fused inside a frame along with digitiser and gorilla glass, the screws you see is for holding the battery and have no effect on the extent of light bleed.
awesome pictures!
Hm.. Have you tried to turn on the tablet with open cover just to see of the light bleed is still there ?
So I wonder...does it just all snap together during the manufacturing process? If the only screws are for the battery then what is holding the screen assembly to the frame? I hope its not the frame itself causing all the problems...that could take Samsung while to fix if at all :/
davidmclaren said:
Hm.. Have you tried to turn on the tablet with open cover just to see of the light bleed is still there ?
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still there
atg284 said:
So I wonder...does it just all snap together during the manufacturing process? If the only screws are for the battery then what is holding the screen assembly to the frame? I hope its not the frame itself causing all the problems...that could take Samsung while to fix if at all :/
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i guess they are glued together
great photos
have you tried to press at some points to see if the lightbleed changes?
after some speculation i think the backlight on the N10s is set to high
i know that my old Samsung TV looked terrible when using max backlight.
as i dont have any N10 yet (picking it up on friday) im not sure if the brightness slider changes the backlight or the brightness(black level)?
my teory is that the backlight is set at max all the time and you only change the brightness.
thats plain WRONG!
thats why colors looks washed out when increasing the brightness
what you want is also a slider for the backlight
the brightness(black level) should ALLWAYS be the same
if you want a brighter display you should only change the backlight as the backlight doesnt affect colors/black level or gamma.
backlight only increase the white level.
you dont want to change your gamma right?
so hackers and kernel experts
find a way to change the backlight and most of the problems should be gone
i think
also you need to replace or add a slider with backlight setting instead of the brightness slider
I
263629749 said:
i guess they are glued together
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I suspect a thin strip of double sided foam tape. Glue aren't typically used on screens as they create fumes which can haze the screen. Atleast not when we install touchscreens for ATM machines. Double sided tapes are easier to apply also. Same process as screen protectors where you have 3 layers with the center being the actual film. In this case center is the double sided tape. Peel one side, put it on the screen then peel off the other side to expose the other sticky side then lay the screen down on the glass. When its not on perfectly is when I suspect light bleed happens.
The huge problem is trying to remove it once its on. You can use heat to try to separate them. With ATM screens they're thicker so somewhat easier to pull them apart as you heat them but with newer phones or tablets they're so thin that if you do this they'll easily crack.
IMO if the light bleed is bugging you just exchange it rather than risk cracking the screen. Then you'll end up completely voiding your warranty exchange
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Here's a complete tear down. There's no mention of any sketchiness in the way it's put together or components used.
Today we received and promptly disassembled the Google Nexus 10. In usual fashion we’ll release the take apart video next week, but wanted to go ahead and post the preliminary take apart steps and photos. The model we’ve taken apart is the 16GB Wi-FI model. Model # GT-P8110.
One thing that struck us about this disassembly was the complete ease of taking this tablet apart. Whereas Apple seems to be making it more and more difficult to repair devices by combining parts and using as much glue as possible, Google seems to be taking the complete opposite approach. The end result is a device that is extremely repairable. Go Google!
Another interesting note is how many of the components in the device are manufactured by Samsung. It appears that the battery, processor, and flash memory are all made by Samsung. Is this Google’s way of capitalizing on the drift between Apple and Samsung?
That’s it. The Nexus 10 display and digitizer are fused together, so that is where the take apart ends.
http://www.powerbookmedic.com/wordpress/2012/11/16/google-nexus-10-take-apart-first-look
that cable that says "GT-P8110" is very interesting. Might help with Samsung support reps in trying to identify what the device is
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/GT-P8110HAEXAR
Edit: Hmm, just looked at my N10 box and it has the number as well; not sure how I missed that before.
pg_ice said:
great photos
have you tried to press at some points to see if the lightbleed changes?
after some speculation i think the backlight on the N10s is set to high
i know that my old Samsung TV looked terrible when using max backlight.
as i dont have any N10 yet (picking it up on friday) im not sure if the brightness slider changes the backlight or the brightness(black level)?
my teory is that the backlight is set at max all the time and you only change the brightness.
thats plain WRONG!
thats why colors looks washed out when increasing the brightness
what you want is also a slider for the backlight
the brightness(black level) should ALLWAYS be the same
if you want a brighter display you should only change the backlight as the backlight doesnt affect colors/black level or gamma.
backlight only increase the white level.
you dont want to change your gamma right?
so hackers and kernel experts
find a way to change the backlight and most of the problems should be gone
i think
also you need to replace or add a slider with backlight setting instead of the brightness slider
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its usually the back light led whose brightness is changed thats y u save battery life when u reduce brightness, what ur talking about is the contrast and thats fixed on the tablet, brightness being led light intensity and contrast being each pixel allowing amount of light through it
ok time to get this tablet perfect
i have some slight lightbleed at the bottom right corner as many has.
if i press at the back of the screen at the right corner i can clearly see that the lightbleed gets worse.
so the conclusion is that is has something to do with uneven pressure at the screen when you can affect it with pressure from the back.
i report back how it went and if i found some solution
A little bit off topic here, in regards to thermal throttling, do you think it would be possible to fit a small blower some where up top where the cpu/gpu is located?
Something like this (16mmx16mmx4.5mm):
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dkse...ewproducts=0&ptm=0&fid=0&quantity=0&PV46=5197
It would need to be hooked up to 5V, some where like the USB or HDMI port connections on the inside or on the board.
It looks like there is a small hole underneath the camera in the lid that could act as an exhaust, a very restricted one, and the usb/hdmi/3.5mm ports may help intake and exhaust too.
Hey Guys just wondering if in the near future will be a way to change the white color of capacitive buttons to red...my sensation xe and rezound is very nice with red capacitive buttons!i found some guides on youtube with older htc devices....but don't know how it works on dna...also there is an easy way without messing with led and wires....if you put fade resistant red tape you can have them...anyone who feels like droid dna should have red capacitive buttons?
That would be a cool mod.
I would like that just because the white is really annoying on the eyes at night.
I remember reading that the guy that took his apart said the LEDs are easy to remove. I personally would just put the multicolored ones in, and then change it depending on mood with an app.
Despyse said:
I remember reading that the guy that took his apart said the LEDs are easy to remove. I personally would just put the multicolored ones in, and then change it depending on mood with an app.
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Doesn't the phones software have to support multicolor or something
RLKirk said:
Doesn't the phones software have to support multicolor or something
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There are already kernel modules to handle multicolor led lights baked into almost all existing android kernels, extending this support to the captive led would be relatively straightforward. Unfortunately the DNA's mainboard has no support for such a mod.
Despyse said:
I remember reading that the guy that took his apart said the LEDs are easy to remove. I personally would just put the multicolored ones in, and then change it depending on mood with an app.
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Surface mount soldering is anything but easy. Unless you have a high end soldering iron with a super fine tip and hands of a brain surgeon, I'd advise against it.
Unless you want a nice paperweight
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slvrdrgn123 said:
I would like that just because the white is really annoying on the eyes at night.
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There is an app that was written for the HTC One X+ which allows for dimming of the captive button LEDs
Origional Thread | Play Store
It only allows for toggling the LED on the DNA. I would assume our devices would support dimming but this has yet to be confirmed.
Kind of off topic, but I think it's something that might be worth looking into.
You could get a slim piece of red translucent gel insert (like the stuff they use for stage lights) and put it right over the bottom section where the buttons are. Then put a screen protector on.
Sent from my HTC DNA
Jarocks said:
There are already kernel modules to handle multicolor led lights baked into almost all existing android kernels, extending this support to the captive led would be relatively straightforward. Unfortunately the DNA's mainboard has no support for such a mod.
Surface mount soldering is anything but easy. Unless you have a high end soldering iron with a super fine tip and hands of a brain surgeon, I'd advise against it.
Unless you want a nice paperweight
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There is an app that was written for the HTC One X+ which allows for dimming of the captive button LEDs
Origional Thread | Play Store
It only allows for toggling the LED on the DNA. I would assume our devices would support dimming but this has yet to be confirmed.
Kind of off topic, but I think it's something that might be worth looking into.
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That's great, thanks!
That would be a good idea to create a screen protector with red tint (or whatever color) at the bottom.
^ That would be a good idea
orangechoochoo said:
That would be a good idea to create a screen protector with red tint (or whatever color) at the bottom.
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awesome idea
So I cracked the glass on my DNA So I decided to take the opportunity to show everyone the inside of the DNA
I still have all the parts, so if anyone wants specific shots let me know.
P.S. Do we think the yellow gasket and white goo = waterproofing?
Cool!!!
Thank for sharing these pictures.
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hey i was wondering if you can show me the leds of capacitive buttons!!!!
Thanks man. These are definitely helpful to see.
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No LEDs
Djmk4 said:
hey i was wondering if you can show me the leds of capacitive buttons!!!!
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No LEDs.. It appears to be a strip of Electroluminescent Paper or a bit LCD back-lighting without the LCD-ness. My bet is on the latter.
(Sorry, by this point everything is glued to hell... so I had to move to destructive disassembly)
Hope this helped!
Cheers,
so cool, thanks!
i was triyng to look for that "soft spot" on the back right which if pushed, caused the LED discoloration..there appears to be A LOT between the actual screen and the back plate, and it's symmetrical...yet the left side didn't have hte same soft spot the right did.
that's what caused my blue dot issue..but judging from these pics, there's alot between the back and the screen..so man, even lightly pushing that spot showed the discoloration..
I thought I was the only one with the blue dot issue, I sent mine back to Wal-Mart & they sent me a new one thank goodness. My bluish blush spot was about 1/2" above the home button & a little off to the left.
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That is exactly where the magnet for the rear speaker is.
I tore a part my evo lte when replacing the screen. The DNA looks like it was designed by brilliant engineers. The evo, in comparison, looks like it was designed by a carpenter.
tjwaterskier said:
No LEDs.. It appears to be a strip of Electroluminescent Paper or a bit LCD back-lighting without the LCD-ness. My bet is on the latter.
(Sorry, by this point everything is glued to hell... so I had to move to destructive disassembly)
Hope this helped!
Cheers,
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There are LEDs, they just are not on the LCD assembly, they are on the front side of the speaker board on bottom. I took my DNA apart and posted pictures of it all a while ago on droidforums, i posted link bellow, you can see the LEDs (there is two of them) on the front side picture of the speaker board which goes on bottom.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ht...230676-htc-dna-disassembly-teardown-done.html
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There are LEDs, they just are not on the LCD assembly, they are on the front side of the speaker board on bottom. I took my DNA apart and posted pictures of it all a while ago on droidforums, i posted link bellow, you can see the LEDs (there is two of them) on the front side picture of the speaker board which goes on bottom.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ht...230676-htc-dna-disassembly-teardown-done.html
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Is this what I'm supposed to be looking at?
http://s8.postimage.org/wu97wki5h/2012_11_24_14_09_39_128.jpg
Look at this photo.. the LCD covers up pretty much the whole area and would block anything coming from the speaker assembly. How would it shine through?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1639055&d=1358014101
I feel like that what this piece is for?
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...e0584da09/50f3058a/1/6/3/9/0/6/0/DSC05692.jpg
but I've got all this white goo there..
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Is this what I'm supposed to be looking at?
http://s8.postimage.org/wu97wki5h/2012_11_24_14_09_39_128.jpg
Look at this photo.. the LCD covers up pretty much the whole area and would block anything coming from the speaker assembly. How would it shine through?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1639055&d=1358014101
I feel like that what this piece is for?
http://dl.xda-developers.com/attach...e0584da09/50f3058a/1/6/3/9/0/6/0/DSC05692.jpg
but I've got all this white goo there..
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yes the first picture you linked is correct. Those two leds on bottom are the LEDs for the touch buttons. Trust me the light goes through lol, that bluish white film or whatever color it is, is tinted and light passes through it. Try holding a flash light behind it. They tint it so the light doesnt just shine right through and look ugly, this way it has a even spread and isnt blinding. Even though id rather have mine a little brighter.
I was able to adjust their brightness with this app..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5ubmV2b2QubG9nZ3JhcGgiXQ..
Don't think they're maxed out with the default settings.
tjwaterskier said:
So I cracked the glass on my DNA So I decided to take the opportunity to show everyone the inside of the DNA
I still have all the parts, so if anyone wants specific shots let me know.
P.S. Do we think the yellow gasket and white goo = waterproofing?
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yes, the yellow gasket is for waterproofing. wondering if you would be willing to part with any of the parts for some s-off work
LoL. Neeevverrmiinnndd
is it possible to separate the lcd from glass without damaging it? my glass is shattered,but lcd is fine.
mine is also broken and i am just about to order the digitizer only, is it possible to replace only the digitizer?
Looking at these made me glance at my phone and I noticed.. My camera isn't centered on the back!! WHAT?!?! LoL
How hard is it to just remove and re attach the rear housing? my rear notification LED doesn't work and I want to fix it.
Hello!
I was wondering how the LEDs in the GS4 work. Are they white LED or other?
If they can be RGB how can I change the color?
Cheers
~~Sephi~~
SeraphSephiroth said:
Hello!
I was wondering how the LEDs in the GS4 work. Are they white LED or other?
If they can be RGB how can I change the color?
Cheers
~~Sephi~~
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Pretty sure that the OS has nothing to do with the color of the buttons or provide any way to change the value (besides off and on). Other than dissassembling the phone and putting colored stickers behind the buttons...but the way it is designed, you'd have a huge hassle removing the LCD assembly without breaking anything and then needing to re-adhese the assembly back to the frame. Unless you have money to spare (LCDs for this phone are EXPENSIVE) and/or are a very experienced tech (I fix phones for a living and definitely would not go through this...) then I think you'll just have to live with it...
The lights are housed in the soft key flex cable that is sandwiched between the bottom of the LCD assembly and the housing.
http://goo.gl/oto6rP