Hello.
I have a problem I hope someone here can help me to solve..
I have an Orange SPV M3100 that hangs on the Windows Mobile screen when I try to start it.
I'm able to go into bootloader mode, and i have tried using mtty142.exe with the set 14 0 command. It still won't boot. I've also tried to hard reset it.. still won't boot..
What I did was trying to unluck the SIM-lock with the Universal unlocker (HTC_Uni_Unlock_v1) from buzz. At the time I thought universal meant that it worked on all HTC devices (stupid, I know)... And I also thought it was harmless to just try and see if it worked. But I got an error around 92-93% and after that my device won't start. So my radio ROM might be screwed.
I'd like to flash my ROM with the i-mate one (JASJAM_WWE_1.20.305.3_1.20.305.104_1.07.03.10_ship.exe) and then add the ext-rom. But how do I do that when I can just access the bootloader screen? And do you think it will boot again if I'm able to flash it?
Here's some more info about my device:
HERM100
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.04
Thank you very much in advance. Help will be highly appreciated.
No your rom *is* screwed. You can get into bootloader, you can even get to 11% of a dopod etc rom upgrade if you try, but you will not flash a new radio.
You CAN boot the device.
Do a hard reset, but do not press spacebar to reboot after. Instead, do a soft reset. The unit should boot but as you've screwed the radio you will not get a gsm signal and the phone will say unknown sim status.
I know this as I bought one cheap after the owner had done exactly the same as you.
IMEI-check's unlock solution is the only one that works IIRC, and in some cases this re-writes the security area of the phone and repairs similar issues, but in this case I could not get the prog to read.
You need to return the device to HTC - you'll need to pay approx £35 for reflashing back to the orange rom. This is what I had to do.
Currently you cannot book the m3100 in through the web as it's too new, instead email / call them.
http://service.htceurope.com/
edit - or if you're an orange customer ring 150 and act dumb saying it ' won't work'.... :wink:
Richard
What happens if you just leave the phone in bootloader mode and then try to flash any ROM (imate, dopod, htc...)? run 2 times the RomUpgradeUt.exe if you get an error on the 1st try.
If you get an error while running the rom upgrade utility you can monitor the USB port while upgrading (you will see the real error from the bootloader then), there's some more info on this wiki page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootLoader
good luck
pof said:
What happens if you just leave the phone in bootloader mode and then try to flash any ROM (imate, dopod, htc...)? run 2 times the RomUpgradeUt.exe if you get an error on the 1st try.
If you get an error while running the rom upgrade utility you can monitor the USB port while upgrading (you will see the real error from the bootloader then), there's some more info on this wiki page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootLoader
good luck
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No, if you want to send it back under warranty do not try to run a rom update as there are no orange rom packages. As described in my post above, it will get to 11% and stop. The device will be in the same state as before, with the same ext rom, but the splash screen and bootloader will have changed.
i.e: it will be bloomin obvious you tried flashing it and failed. Not what you want if you try for a warranty repair....
There is no error from the bootloader - as there is no radio rom present and no security area the upgrade process just hangs.
Richard
fluffcat1 said:
No, if you want to send it back under warranty do not try to run a rom update as there are no orange rom packages.
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i.e: it will be bloomin obvious you tried flashing it and failed. Not what you want if you try for a warranty repair....
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That's true, do not try to flash any other roms if you want to use the warranty or send the device back...
Thank you very very much for your help guys.
As I'm the administrator of these devices in the company I work for I just grabbed a new SPV and will send this thing back to Orange. It sounded like I'm getting a new one..
Well, I think I've learnt my lession.
Oh, and I have another question. Is there a reg editor I can install on this one so I can remove the app lock? I know I can install java apps, but it's a bit grumpy about apps that needs installation (the developer must be certificated).
Cheers guys.
Hi,
Try to flash a new rom using the SD card method described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=62596
The rom must match your CID. Let us know if it works
pof said:
Hi,
Try to flash a new rom using the SD card method described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=62596
The rom must match your CID. Let us know if it works
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Errr, did you read the last post? He sent it back......
Richard
I just wanted to let him know there's a possible solution, it just in case he still has the unit
pof said:
I just wanted to let him know there's a possible solution, it just in case he still has the unit
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Maybe his search is broken as well as his old phone eh?.... :roll:
fluffcat1 said:
You need to return the device to HTC - you'll need to pay approx £35 for reflashing back to the orange rom. This is what I had to do.
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Sorry to take the thread a bit OT, but just wanted to confirm this again.
So, if I flashed my M3100 with a different ROM, and then had to return the phone to Orange for repair for a different reason, I can send it back to HTC just to have the ROM reflashed, and then send the phone to Orange to get the repairs done?
I've been hesitating on whether to flash the phone with a non-Orange ROM because I didn't want to give up the ability to obtain warranty repair (as there is no ROM upgrade yet). If it's just a matter of £35 and then everything else as normal, maybe it's not so bad...
Thanks!
My SPV M3100 won't start!!!
I also did this, so if anyone can find a solution it would be greatly appreciated.
Also tried this and it didn't work for me:
Try to flash a new rom using the SD card method described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=62596
"I have a problem I hope someone here can help me to solve..
I have an Orange SPV M3100 that hangs on the Windows Mobile screen when I try to start it.
I'm able to go into bootloader mode, and i have tried using mtty142.exe with the set 14 0 command. It still won't boot. I've also tried to hard reset it.. still won't boot..
What I did was trying to unluck the SIM-lock with the Universal unlocker (HTC_Uni_Unlock_v1) from buzz. At the time I thought universal meant that it worked on all HTC devices (stupid, I know)... "
rachelm700 said:
I also did this, so if anyone can find a solution it would be greatly appreciated.
Also tried this and it didn't work for me:
Try to flash a new rom using the SD card method described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=62596
"I have a problem I hope someone here can help me to solve..
I have an Orange SPV M3100 that hangs on the Windows Mobile screen when I try to start it.
I'm able to go into bootloader mode, and i have tried using mtty142.exe with the set 14 0 command. It still won't boot. I've also tried to hard reset it.. still won't boot..
What I did was trying to unluck the SIM-lock with the Universal unlocker (HTC_Uni_Unlock_v1) from buzz. At the time I thought universal meant that it worked on all HTC devices (stupid, I know)... "
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the above link doesnt work?
zohaer21 said:
the above link doesnt work?
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IIRC it is this link on the new forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277281
spv m3100 don't start
hello guys
I have the same problem about spv m3100. I used "universal unlock tool" to unlock my device and now it don't start,don't boot...I tried the Hermes SD Card flashing methods with qtek001 rom and, a white screen with "loading...." appears for 2 second and then nothing else appened. I think that the method is right but I need to use a different software. what do you think about?
please help me
thankksssss
My SPV M3100 won't start
SD card method is no good as there is no upgrade from Orange until January.
Tried to do a radio upgrade explained here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
But it didn't work just came up with connection error, tried to monitor USB but nothing showed up to find out why, althouth mtty commands always do show up in USB Monitor.
Still have a brick and looking for a solution, hopefully, someday, please someone help me I am loosing my mind.
Hello
How to enter boot mode on HTC 200 ?
My htc hangs on HTC screen.
I'm trying to reflash it.
Thanx
Chris
@chrisro, Please read the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Resets
Thank you very much.
Greets form Poland !
Chris
first off let me start off by saying, yes, i'm a noob. i started out by reading all the posts in every thread i could. i have a x10ht that i bought at the local asian mall, not knowing that there were so many problems unlocking it
this is the second failed attempt at flashing a new rom onto my phone. i must say, i am not impressed. it froze the last time, i'm not sure where, and this time at 47%. kinda annoying when u think about it. i took the precautions and followed instructions, but to no avail
can anyone help? i'll give all the details i can...
bl 1.09
radio 1.14
old rom was 1.35
What state is it in now?
if i plug it in to the pc, it goes into bl 1.09
so, i was able to flash the old softbank rom onto it, but now i'm stuck with a japanese device with a sim lock on it(i think). i can't even set up activesync to try to update again. any ideas guys?
I don't have much xp with the ideosyncracies of the Softbank X01ht, but you should be able to build a sspl RUU featuring the os.nb of your choice. I believe you don't want to try flashing the radio ROM area but an os.nb only flash should restore the english version of your choice.
I'd look for confirmation on the above conjecture however, before trying these steps:
download the ruu of your choice and extract the signed nbh file using winrar or equivalent (the exe is an executable rar file)
use nbhextract or nbhdump to extract all the files
use Olipro's RUU builder to create a sspl RUU with only os.nb (use the 06_os.nb extracted from step 2)
flash this onto your device
This procedure should raise a lot of questions for you to research the answers to. The answers are all here I assure you. In researching, you will learn about the techniques of custom flashing for Hermes and whether they can really be used safely on your device.
Flashing the japanese ROM shouldn't have SIM locked you again. However, if it is you can research your free solution on this thread or you can purchase unlock from here.
Also: please explain what you mean by "Can't set up Activesync"
the only problem is right now i can't even access my device... there appears to be some sort of lock on it, something to do with usim and i have no clue what it says. but i can't do anything with it
Its probably saying the SIM is incorrect. You may well be SIMLocked....
You need to get it to the today screen to do sspl flashing. Try resetting with no SIM installed. the first thing you should see after the WM splash is the phone dialer saying "The SIM is missing" in japanese. Hit the cancel button which on my TyTN is the first labeled button above the green button to return to the today screen (you may have to experiment to find the right button).
i do get that, but after a few seconds, it goes to a screen where you can put in a code and there is writing on the left soft button, but you can't select it, i assume until a suitable length code is input, and it has no ok button, so i can't even get out of it... help!!!
and by can't set up activesync i mean that i can only get into the today screen for a very limited time, and activesync doesn't seem to connect fast enough, so i'm kind of stuck.
This happens when there's no SIM installed?
yes, it does. but i may have found out something. i can connect to my hermes through activesync on my work computer... hmmm... let me see here...
wow, that was an experience
so i think i'm good, i'll update you guys as teh day goes on, but i may have fixed this myself, and i feel so releived.
yes, the same usim message was coming up regardless of the way i started it up, but i had about 20 seconds of pda usage before it would come up. i got activesync working via the work laptop on the usim screen, and was able to copy sspl over, i restarted and quickly ran sspl, which got me into des's bootloader. from there, it was just a matter of running the ruu i wanted to run in the first place, WM6 .2, and voila, we seem to be back in business... but i don't ever want to do that again, so i think i'm going to flash that hard sspl... but first to test the radio's and and other features.... wow. last time the flash ****ed up on me, i had to pay this guy $30 to fix it, and tho he did, he never wanted me to know how so i could do it myself next time. screw him!!!!
thanks to everyone and their hard work on the forums here. without you, i'd be styling with a razr rather than hacking this thing apart like it was an xbox or psp....
HEY ALL,
I AM A FAIRLY EXPERIENCED USER WITH WM DEVICES, IN FACT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME DECENT ROMS FOR THE KAISER, BUT I AM PRETTY NEW TO THE ADVANTAGE AS I JUST PICKED ONE UP LAST WEEK. PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE IN THIS ISSUE, AS IT SEEMS JUST AN ISSUE OF ME MAKING AN EXTREMELY "ROOKIE" MISTAKE.
I HAVE READ, READ, READ AND READ SOME MORE, AS ONE SHOULD ALWAYS DO, BUT SOME HOW I GOT MYSELF INTO SOME TROUBLE WHILE RUNNING THE ATHENA UNLOCKER ON MY ADVANTAGE X7501... BIG TROUBLE...
I RAN THE UNLOCKER, AND FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, BUT WHILE THE UNLOCKER WAS RUNNING, AFTER IT ALLOOWED ME TO BACK UP MY SPL, IT WAS RUNNING SCRIPTS AS USUAL, AND I RECIVED AN UNUSUAL WINDOWS ERROR WITH THE UNLOCKER APP (PROGRAMS HAS EXPERIENCED ABNORMAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT...) THEN GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CONTINUE OR QUIT, SO I CHOSE CONTINUE, BUT THE DEVICE DID NOTHING MORE AND THE UNLOCKER BASICALLY FROZE. THE PC WAS "OK", AS FAR AS NOT BEING FROZE UP, BUT THE UNLOCKER WOULD NOT MOVE ANOTHER STEP! AFTER WAITING NEARLY AN HOUR, I DECIDED TO DISCONNECT (BAD IDEA, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, I REALIZE THIS PROBLEM IS BY ALL MEANS MY OWN FAULT!).
AFTER DISCNNECT, DEVICE APPEARED FINE UNTIL FIRST SOFT RESET, THEN I GOT NO BOOT, NO BOOTLOADER WITH ANY KEY COMBINATION, AND NOTHING ELSE. I CAN GET DEVICE TO WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE STANDARD BL SCREEN, BUT NO OLIPRO SPL, NO WRITING AT ALL, AND NO SERIAL OR USB WHEN CONNECTED OR DISCONNECTED FROM PC! ALL I HAVE IS TRI-COLOR SCREEN WITH NO WRITING, REGARDLESS OF KEY/RESET COMBINATIONS THAT I HAVE TRIED, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALL OF THEM!
I AM OUT OF OPTIONS, I WAS HOPING SOME OF MY FELLOW XDA FOLKS COULD HELP AN "IDIOT" IN NEED! I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT !
ALSO I WOULD GLADLY PROVIDE ANY MORE INFO IF NEEDED FOR FURHTER ADVICE. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda(Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Alex- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex!))
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
Attached Images
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
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HTC ADVANTAGE X7501 AT&T TILT 8925 VERIZON XV6700
THEQUARTZGUY said:
HEY ALL,
I AM A FAIRLY EXPERIENCED USER WITH WM DEVICES, IN FACT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME DECENT ROMS FOR THE KAISER, BUT I AM PRETTY NEW TO THE ADVANTAGE AS I JUST PICKED ONE UP LAST WEEK. PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE IN THIS ISSUE, AS IT SEEMS JUST AN ISSUE OF ME MAKING AN EXTREMELY "ROOKIE" MISTAKE.
I HAVE READ, READ, READ AND READ SOME MORE, AS ONE SHOULD ALWAYS DO, BUT SOME HOW I GOT MYSELF INTO SOME TROUBLE WHILE RUNNING THE ATHENA UNLOCKER ON MY ADVANTAGE X7501... BIG TROUBLE...
I RAN THE UNLOCKER, AND FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, BUT WHILE THE UNLOCKER WAS RUNNING, AFTER IT ALLOOWED ME TO BACK UP MY SPL, IT WAS RUNNING SCRIPTS AS USUAL, AND I RECIVED AN UNUSUAL WINDOWS ERROR WITH THE UNLOCKER APP (PROGRAMS HAS EXPERIENCED ABNORMAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT...) THEN GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CONTINUE OR QUIT, SO I CHOSE CONTINUE, BUT THE DEVICE DID NOTHING MORE AND THE UNLOCKER BASICALLY FROZE. THE PC WAS "OK", AS FAR AS NOT BEING FROZE UP, BUT THE UNLOCKER WOULD NOT MOVE ANOTHER STEP! AFTER WAITING NEARLY AN HOUR, I DECIDED TO DISCONNECT (BAD IDEA, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, I REALIZE THIS PROBLEM IS BY ALL MEANS MY OWN FAULT!).
AFTER DISCNNECT, DEVICE APPEARED FINE UNTIL FIRST SOFT RESET, THEN I GOT NO BOOT, NO BOOTLOADER WITH ANY KEY COMBINATION, AND NOTHING ELSE. I CAN GET DEVICE TO WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE STANDARD BL SCREEN, BUT NO OLIPRO SPL, NO WRITING AT ALL, AND NO SERIAL OR USB WHEN CONNECTED OR DISCONNECTED FROM PC! ALL I HAVE IS TRI-COLOR SCREEN WITH NO WRITING, REGARDLESS OF KEY/RESET COMBINATIONS THAT I HAVE TRIED, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALL OF THEM!
I AM OUT OF OPTIONS, I WAS HOPING SOME OF MY FELLOW XDA FOLKS COULD HELP AN "IDIOT" IN NEED! I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT !
ALSO I WOULD GLADLY PROVIDE ANY MORE INFO IF NEEDED FOR FURHTER ADVICE. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
SORRY FOR LONG POST, JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBLE...
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Hi
You could try Hard Reset BY Volume down+Stylus reset. if it turns on and load OS then you can use the unlocker again without Sim and Memory card(but your pc must have netframe work 2.0 installed and updated). If your device failed to load OS then you have to find the original rom for your device (which you can download from this website "use the search function") then unlock your device with olipro's latest unlocker.
Good luck
I got this once when I tried to flash from the memory card.
Remove both memory and sim card and battery for 10 mins.
make sure you are disconnected from the puter.
put battery in and hold the camerabutton all the way in and press the reset pin and hopefully you will enter the bootloader proper.
Which version of olipros unlocker did you use
Try to use the last version as it is less prone to trouble and works better on x7501
see this post as well(though not exactly your problem)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374734
I would also recommend flashing from an xppro machine with the latest activesync
just reinforcing above post as well
I had a similar problem which I outlined here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368312
Notice the screenshots about a third of the way down.
Does your Advantage bootscreen look like this?
-Alex-
try inserting an SD card and boot to this strange bootloader screen
does it say Loading (then No image found)?
also, i assume you mean the PC does not see the device either?
what athena version have you all got? x7501? brand new? maybe HTC changed something about them...
Still No Luck!!! Any More Advice? It Would Be Appreciated...
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda (Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Bairda (Alex)- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex)!)
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO AT ALL THAT COULD HELP A GUY OUT! THX!
if it can't load an image from SD and PC (with XP) can't see the device, then it needs to be sent back, if possible under warranty
bad choice
hay there first time some thing like that happen to me i was stuck for hours but then i got into boot loader in flashed the pk 3.0 and it worked so if u can see the olipro 1.20 thing then its all good and if u cant then mabee ur f***d that type of error u got its supose to cum near the end
THEQUARTZGUY said:
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda (Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Bairda (Alex)- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex)!)
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM ME OR EMAIL ME AT [email protected] IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO AT ALL THAT COULD HELP A GUY OUT! THX!
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Sorry that you are having the same problems that I did. Unfortunately, I can't bring you much comfort as I tried everything that I could find or was suggested. I searched every post and put out multiple cross-postings (that is a real sign of desperation for me!). Ultimately I had to get a new unit from Amazon as I could NOT get it back from the land of rainbow death that you see in the pics. I am no expert with the Athena/Advantage but I am also pretty experienced with computers and rarely ever get myself into a no-win like this. It takes alot for me to give up and declare a piece of equipment beyond my ability to fix, but this was one of those times.
I think that I traced the eventual cause to one (or a combination) of the following:
- Leaving the SIM and the Mini SD in the unit during the flash process
- Some glitch when using vista with the bootloader
- Using an older version of the OliPro unlocker (very likely the cause)
- Somehow panicing during the unlock and interupting the upgrade. You MUST do all three steps of the unlock to be safe.
I repeated the unlock with replacement unit being careful to use the latest bulletproof unlock and had no problems. But the original unit did have to go back.
I sincerely hope that you have better luck! Tell me how it turns out! If there is any other info you think you might be able to use from my experience, please ask away!
-Alex-
bairda said:
You MUST do all three steps of the unlock to be safe.
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nope, the second and third steps are only for sim unlocking
But if you what to uprage a new Radio you have to do a SIM unlock?
cmonex said:
nope, the second and third steps are only for sim unlocking
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I stand corrected.
I would caution though, that for new users it would be best to follow the procedure through all 3 steps. As I understand it there is no harm in doing this other than the increase cost in time and effort and may be less confusing and safer then just doing the first.
Is this correct?
-Alex-
marthynovak said:
But if you what to uprage a new Radio you have to do a SIM unlock?
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nope, it's got nothing to do with the radio version
it's another area where simunlock info is stored
bairda said:
I stand corrected.
I would caution though, that for new users it would be best to follow the procedure through all 3 steps. As I understand it there is no harm in doing this other than the increase cost in time and effort and may be less confusing and safer then just doing the first.
Is this correct?
-Alex-
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well it can't do much harm, of course less flashing means less risk, and step 2 and step 3 both flash a radio.
as a newbie i'd imagine it's easier to just do step 1 because step 2 can cause corruption to the OS so it needs to be reflashed and the black screen scares the newbies etc.
What I have noticed reading this board too is that sometimes the type of USB cables used matters. I do not know why, but this happened to me too. I failed at step #2 and couldn't figure it our why. To resolve this I changed everything. From computer to usb cables to fresh files, to restore old image and re-tried the process and it worked.
Also one thing I noticed is that the old unlocked is linked allot instead of the new unlocker which is almost bullet proof. Some folks did download the old unlocker and tried it on their x7501 and bricked their device....
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Problem Resolved!!! Please Read, Very Important Information!!!
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
THEQUARTZGUY said:
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
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Hi there,
Thanks indeed for the important info. I haven't yet tried the unlocker. But to my understanding the link " -BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831"
points to the latest version of the unlocker. The file I have downloaded is dated in November 2007. This is not correct? And what does the wrapper mean?
Could you please explain? I bought my X7501 in the US, but live in Europe and such a mistake could be totally fatal!
Thanks for your feedback.
Regarding The "bad" Unlocker....
Hey Dodonian / Everyone,
Yea, I Agree That It Is Somewhat Confusing About The "latest" Unlocker Version, But While Dealing With The Issues I Have Had Lately, I Spoke With Olipro, Who Makes The Unlocker, And When I Sent Him The Link That I Labeled Bad In The Last Post, He Replied That It Appeared I Had Tried The Older One, And That The Link To The Other One Labeled "good" Was Infact The Best One.
I Could, I Guess, In Some Way Be Mislead Here, But Just For Your Info, I Did Just Receive My Fixed Advantage X7501 Today, And Immediately Ran The "athena_wrapper" Which Is Availible On The "good" Link That I Posted. It Ran Good And Flashed Directly From The Bootloader. Afterwards, I Was Able To Flash My Own Custom Rom With No Difficulty, And All Went Well.
Hope This Answers Your Question!
---ryan
THEQUARTZGUY said:
Hey Dodonian / Everyone,
Yea, I Agree That It Is Somewhat Confusing About The "latest" Unlocker Version, But While Dealing With The Issues I Have Had Lately, I Spoke With Olipro, Who Makes The Unlocker, And When I Sent Him The Link That I Labeled Bad In The Last Post, He Replied That It Appeared I Had Tried The Older One, And That The Link To The Other One Labeled "good" Was Infact The Best One.
I Could, I Guess, In Some Way Be Mislead Here, But Just For Your Info, I Did Just Receive My Fixed Advantage X7501 Today, And Immediately Ran The "athena_wrapper" Which Is Availible On The "good" Link That I Posted. It Ran Good And Flashed Directly From The Bootloader. Afterwards, I Was Able To Flash My Own Custom Rom With No Difficulty, And All Went Well.
Hope This Answers Your Question!
---ryan
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Thanks Ryan!
I see. I know that the X7501 is sold unlocked in the US and therefore only the 1st step of flashing the SPL would make sense. That means that if run the athena wrapper, all will be OK for flashing radio, ROM etc. I that correct?
Two more questions, if you don't mind.
1.Did you need to install .NET to run the Athena wrapper?, or is it kind of pre-installed mostly?
2.What is your experience with the cooked ROMs? Running stable? Can you flash back the original ROM if required?
Thanks
Dod.
I ran the 'wrapper' this week, step 1 only, so I could upgrade the radio driver. I first ran the bad unlocker and got the 'black screen of death', but after reflashing a good ROM, then the good 'wraapper', then the latest radio all is well.