Has anyone yet figured out what the penulitmate digit in the radio version numbers means?
Looking at the list of published ROMs on the wiki I can deduce the following:
- Asian and generic WWE (which I assume originate from Asia) ROMs use .10 or .11
- O2 used .10 for WM5 but now .00 for WM6
- All other (European, North American) ROMs appear to use .00 or .01
Are they optimized for different network parameters? Is there some major difference in network standards between Europe/North America and Asia?
I believe that .11 (or .01) means that GPS is enabled.
correct .11 radios are for the trynity since it has GPS the Hermes has the same chip but the GPS has been killed in it people have tried very hard to gert it to work but its a no go.
Yes, I've seen elsewhere the at the last '1' indicates GPS support. I'm still curious to know what the penultimate digit (i.e. .1x vs .0x) indicates. As far as I can see from the info on shipped ROMs there is a geographical bias. Perhaps we ought to be bearing this in mind when choosing radio ROM versions?
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With so many Radio stacks to choose from, I decided to do some researching about each one, as well as tried to determine which one is used the most. I understand that as with ROMs, there is not a "best" radio stack to choose from but rather, the experience varies form person to person based on individual needs.
I have narrowed the selections down to 3 or 4 different versions but before I flash my device, I was hoping someone could help clarify the one question I could not find an answer to.
Are certain radio stacks carrier specific? Is there a radio version that is better for devices using TMO vs. devices using ATT?
For example:
My current set up is:
Carrier: T-Mobile USA (Seattle)
Device: HERM100 Hermes (specifically the Cingular 8525 version)
ROM: MRH 6.5 Rainbow WM6.1 (19212-ish)
Radio: 1.16.00.00
Knowing that I have TMO USA can I flash my device with 1.54.30.10? It seems that this has only been tested on ATT, does that mean it wont work with TMO? (will i lose TMO services with an ATT radio?)
Thanks in advance,
-hier0
From what I have read in different forums
00.00 optimised for US and UK
30.10 optimised for OZ and down under
00.10 optimised for general use.
Hope this helps, and yes it will be good for users from all over the world to come together and get a report together as to what is best for their area.
I am in Christchurch, New Zealand, and am using 1.47.30.10 thanks in advance.
zocster said:
From what I have read in different forums
00.00 optimised for US and UK
30.10 optimised for OZ and down under
00.10 optimised for general use.
Hope this helps, and yes it will be good for users from all over the world to come together and get a report together as to what is best for their area.
I am in Christchurch, New Zealand, and am using 1.47.30.10 thanks in advance.
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When I was researching which radios people are using, I only compared the radio version to the carrier they were using. I can't believe I didn't think about the region a radio version is optimized for. That makes a lot more sense and I would say, that's some very important info for anyone to know before flashing their radio. Good lookin out! Thanks
EDIT: So I guess now the question would be...Since I am located in America i know that i should be using a radio version that ends in 00.00...Does it matter which carrier I am using? Or can I flash any radio version ending in 00.00?
I also agree that it would be great if we could have users from a variety of regions post their Radio version, Carrier and Region information. If we can get a good mix of information, I will throw it into a matrix and post it into the wiki. This would be a great reference for anyone who wants to update their radio. (it would also help eliminate noobish questions)
For example:
If a user posted:
Region: USA / Radio: 1.16.00.00 / T-Mobile (all services work without error)
and a second user posted:
Region: USA / Radio: 1.16.00.00 / AT&T (all services work without error)
then noobs like me (or anyone for that matter) would know that its probally safe to flash any radio version optimized for US/UK no matter what their carrier is.
Just a thought..
-hier0
My 8525 is running radio ver 1.54.07.00 and I noticed that my friends tilt gets 3G connections in places my hermes doesn't. Is there a newer rom with better 3g reception?
not a newer on for hermes...there is a 1.56 from trinity that some hermes users liked (look at it's thread info). Sometimes going back to 1.48 or 1.47 could be better than 1.54 depending on your location & carrier?
Best thing to do is say "I live >insert country here< & am using >insert carrier here<... Whats the best radio for me?". Radios differ country to country and carrier to carrier.. What works fine for me here in Oz won't help you in say Texas... Until ALL carriers use the latest radios (yeah right, I'll be able to jump off a cliff, grow wings spontaneously and fly to safety 1st) then someone saying this is best for you might not be true and could also harm your Hermes..
More Info always better for us trying to help...
Cheers...
I am in California, USA and on AT&T/Cingular.
Hmm had confused to about this radio version, is there any standard official release such a documentation that stated in which frequency does all those radio intended suitable for.
I had try 1.47.30.10 (my previous 1.47.0.10), then 11.56.70.11, but not so sure about the last and lately i fall back to 1.47.30.10. Why? Cause in latest Dopod 838 Pro official/shipped ROM (got from zocters's 4shared archive, thanks Mas), use this version. Play safely
So I should try the 1.56 one? Also, what rom is good these days? I currently am using CRC.
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So I should try the 1.56 one? Also, what rom is good these days? I currently am using CRC.
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looks like from signatures I've seen, california is using 1.48 & 1.54 (read the 1.56 thread & see if u want to try that one).
for wm6.1 roms: CRC, DVH, & PDACorner are recommended! But, read their threads for details...
Hi all!
I recently upgraded from a Bell Mobility PPC-6800 (Mogul) to a Bell Mobility Touch Pro (CDMA carrier in Canada for those who aren't sure). I had already flashed my Mogul with a DCD rom, which I loved. Now I'm running the NRGZ rom 3.0 I found over at PPCGeeks.com and it's also a very impressive package he's put together. Loving the speed of it so far.
I've searched around and the only reference I've found to radios are for the GSM Raphael, not the Herman. Are there better radios out there that I simply haven't found? My signal bars are typically low....it might spike to full from time to time, but then it'll drop back to 1-2 bars. My Mogul used to get full reception anywhere, so I know the Bell network has a fair amount of coverage.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks guys
If you check out the CDMA part of the Touch Pro forums on ppcgeeks, you will find a topic about various radios. As long as your phone is unlocked, you can use any of the radios. Apparently the radio that works the best varies significantly on factors such as location, etc.
Personally, I'm new to flashing Touch Pro's, but I've flashed 4 radios and find that the Telus radio seems to have a slight advantage here in Edmonton. Of course that is subjective, since I have no real numbers, and my results could have been skewed by many different factors.
Keep in mind, for warranty purposes, you can't go back to your original radio with Bell, since they have not released a shipped rom for people to take apart. This means you have to hope the warranty guys miss the fact that you changed the radio, even if you flash back to a stock bell rom, since it technically voids the warranty to change the radio. The Telus radio has the most similar version numbers to the bell stock radio.
I recently went through an unlock /flash and radio for my dad, the radio was by far the most time consuming part, I flashed something like 10 or 12 radios, and running fieldtest on each one to get the best signal, then having to go through all the crap to find the best battery consumption versus the best signal was a P.I.T.A. but he's way happy now. and when your pop is retired and he lives 3 hours away, every chance he gets he'll talk your ear off. the Best Radio is largely a per person/device thing. what carrier you have affects it, what area you're in affects it too. I hope I helped a bit, at least more than I confuzed you.
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My office is giving me a HD2 from Telstra - can anyone tell my what ROMs are compatible with it?
I already have a HD2 from the UK and am using Artemis v23 ROM on it. But since the Telstra one also has 850MHz that my UK one doesn't, I am not sure whether I can use any ROM and then tweak something, or whether only certain ROMs can work with it?
I can't believe the amount of Telstra bloatware there is - the std HD2 is way better in my opinion.
Thanks in advance.
DT
I have a Telstra HD2 running Artemis and the latest radio - just used HSPL3 - running just great too
geekygrl said:
I have a Telstra HD2 running Artemis and the latest radio - just used HSPL3 - running just great too
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You don't lose any of the connection frequencies??
DT
The simple answer (at least in my experience) is that pretty much anything works.
I've run a variety of ROMs and radios on mine and encountered no deal-breaker compatibility issues.
The radio hardware connects perfectly happily to NextG even if 850Mhz isn't available as a band option (leaving it on Auto seems best).
There is a cab available (search for Telstra_Band_Type) that will make Telstra's frequencies selectable, and there are also instructions on this forum to hack the registry to achieve the same thing.
But I wouldn't bother as it doesn't seem to matter in my experience.
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What means radio version in roms ?
razvanwin95 said:
What means radio version in roms ?
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You can probably think of this as the RF (Radio Frequency) driver if you like, it is firmware (software for the hardware) that controls the way the device handles anything to do with RF, so thats wifi, gsm, hsdpa, bluetooth and GPS.
The main thing is, each radio version performs differently in different regions of the world, and also is dependant on your mobile provider. Performance being mainly down to voice quality, if you have a certain radio, and you have lots of drop outs, dropped calls and so on, its quite possible you need to try a different radio.
For instance for us in the UK, 0300 or 0321 is by far the best choice, in europe many people find 1600 or 1700 to be better.
Many people in Asia find 1800 to be best.
thx for answer