hello!
i'm new in here! i like this forum! keep it up!
i read the wiki and how to upgrade my t-mobile mda vario II. but as a n00b i got some questions
i only read that after i unlock the CID or SIM the warranty goes out.
but what's about HardSPL and another RadioRom? can i use it without touching the warranty?
that's very complex! but if i flash my first rom i will make a clever move and won't asking stupid questions anymore
thx in advance!!!
edit: i read on mrvanx.org that you can downgrade hardspl back to a retail spl.
you should mention this in the wiki, too. you could also make a subitem with "upgrading without loosing warranty" or something like that, for newbies like me.
schwert said:
hello!
i'm new in here! i like this forum! keep it up!
i read the wiki and how to upgrade my t-mobile mda vario II. but as a n00b i got some questions
i only read that after i unlock the CID or SIM the warranty goes out.
but what's about HardSPL and another RadioRom? can i use it without touching the warranty?
that's very complex! but if i flash my first rom i will make a clever move and won't asking stupid questions anymore
thx in advance!!!
edit: i read on mrvanx.org that you can downgrade hardspl back to a retail spl.
you should mention this in the wiki, too. you could also make a subitem with "upgrading without loosing warranty" or something like that, for newbies like me.
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For $35 USD you can have your phone unlocked by code and it wont ruin your warranty.
Then you can flash any rom and if you need warranty service, just flash back to the original ship rom. PM for details.
Kevbodian said:
For $35 USD you can have your phone unlocked by code and it wont ruin your warranty.
Then you can flash any rom and if you need warranty service, just flash back to the original ship rom. PM for details.
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you can unlock and no supercid yourself and save yourself $35. Unlocked SIM does not cancel a USA warranty.
wpbear said:
you can unlock and no supercid yourself and save yourself $35. Unlocked SIM does not cancel a USA warranty.
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Well I guess it depends how the sim is unlocked. If its a patched radio then yeah, voids warranty. If its a code it doesnt. Supercid should also void warranty. CID = customer ID (with AT&T being the customer to HTC). If you superCID then you are altering this and voiding your warranty.
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Well I guess it depends how the sim is unlocked. If its a patched radio then yeah, voids warranty. If its a code it doesnt. Supercid should also void warranty. CID = customer ID (with AT&T being the customer to HTC). If you superCID then you are altering this and voiding your warranty.
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Why would a patched radio void you warranty. You just flash back to a stock radio. Then how would anyone tell which way it was unlocked. And besides ATT gives the code free, so if you are on ATT just call them and skip all this mess.
And yes a SUPERCID woudl void the warranty..but ATT doesnt check, but it is up to the owner to take a chance I guess on the SUPERCID as you never know when they may start checking.
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Why would a patched radio void you warranty. You just flash back to a stock radio. Then how would anyone tell which way it was unlocked. And besides ATT gives the code free, so if you are on ATT just call them and skip all this mess.
And yes a SUPERCID woudl void the warranty..but ATT doesnt check, but it is up to the owner to take a chance I guess on the SUPERCID as you never know when they may start checking.
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You got me on the radio, but if you forget to flash back the right one, they will see. Also, if you ever screw up while flashing you could brick the device; I've never heard of bricking a phone while typing in the unlock code.
And whether or not ATT checks for superCID... stills seems like a gamble on a $500 investment (HTC probably will check).
I shouldn't be selling this service here, but i just have a few codes I gotta get rid of . At least the codes are peace of mind.
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You got me on the radio, but if you forget to flash back the right one, they will see. Also, if you ever screw up while flashing you could brick the device; I've never heard of bricking a phone while typing in the unlock code.
And whether or not ATT checks for superCID... stills seems like a gamble on a $500 investment (HTC probably will check).
I shouldn't be selling this service here, but i just have a few codes I gotta get rid of . At least the codes are peace of mind.
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If you use HardSPL, it will be hard to brick your device. You're just looking for an excuse to pawn off your services, which isn't cool here.
Kevbodian said:
You got me on the radio, but if you forget to flash back the right one, they will see. Also, if you ever screw up while flashing you could brick the device; I've never heard of bricking a phone while typing in the unlock code.
And whether or not ATT checks for superCID... stills seems like a gamble on a $500 investment (HTC probably will check).
I shouldn't be selling this service here, but i just have a few codes I gotta get rid of . At least the codes are peace of mind.
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Youre right HTC will prob check SUPERCID.
I still think though the POF unlocker is the best since you can SIM unlock only then upgrade to a new radio..all free. And Olipro has a way to do the ext rom thing with not being SUPERCID so everything is possible without totally screwing the warranty.
I will keep you in mind though for my kaiser code if ATT try to screw with me though. I am hoping POF and olipro get a kasier though. Maybe we should start a fund for them so they get one sooner
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pof: probably question for you.
Is it possible to revert Super-CID? To have device with "normal" CID. Is this would require a lot of work?
I am thinking about program with list of CIDs to lock.
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pof: probably question for you.
Is it possible to revert Super-CID? To have device with "normal" CID. Is this would require a lot of work?
I am thinking about program with list of CIDs to lock.
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Why do you want to do such thing??
Everyone want super-cid to unlock the hermes not to lock it with a CID
vador said:
Why do you want to do such thing??
Everyone want super-cid to unlock the hermes not to lock it with a CID
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In example, to recover the warranty.
Pawlisko said:
pof: probably question for you.
Is it possible to revert Super-CID? To have device with "normal" CID. Is this would require a lot of work?
I am thinking about program with list of CIDs to lock.
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Good idea.. i didnt flash my Vario II because I dont want to loose my warranty!
I even want to buy the program that can manage to recover the Original CID!
I hope someone can develope that piece of software, so i can flash my vario!!
Next version of the Hermes unlocker will allow you to select if you want to SIM-unlock, CID-unlock or both. I'm working on it, so please be patient
Going back to your original CID once you've already set it SuperCID can't be done easily, but if you _really_, _really_, _really_, need it because of warranty reasons, PM me and hopefully we can do anything.
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Next version of the Hermes unlocker will allow you to select if you want to SIM-unlock, CID-unlock or both. I'm working on it, so please be patient
Going back to your original CID once you've already set it SuperCID can't be done easily, but if you _really_, _really_, _really_, need it because of warranty reasons, PM me and hopefully we can do anything.
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Pof, you are to good for this world! But i dont need it now, I like to have a apps that re-CID my device before I need to claim warranty.
I dont like the idea that i'm not sure if I can re-CID my device after that I have flashed my vario...
Sorry for the bad english!
vador said:
Why do you want to do such thing??
Everyone want super-cid to unlock the hermes not to lock it with a CID
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I do belive that somehow HTC with upgrade to AKU3.x (I hope it is AKU3.x) will find way of locking SuperCID.
And with all information we have got - change of SPL and IPL to prevent Radio upgrade - I belive that it might be problem for all SuperCIDs.
Just want to be on safe side when it will happen.
pof: just think about way of restoring CID - whit is what my guts are saying.
All preproduction devices are SuperCID, and HTC will not lock it, it is the way they use to give the operators / manufacturers the ability to do some stuff we 'users' can not do
Don't worry about this... they can prevent the radio ROM or the bootloader to be flashed or downgraded, as they did with bootloader 1.09 and softbank's 1.14 radio and most probably will do it with newer radios with radio bootloader V1.008,... but SuperCID will stay there, they will not change your CID with a ROM upgrade
I might send my 8525 back to Cingular for a defective screen, do you guys think they'll deny my claim since I've Super-CID unlocked my phone??
i would just hard reset it and send it back.. how would they know??? plus ur not sayin its a software issue.. so i would think they wont be lookin' for that.. im pretty sure they would just make sure it wasnt in water.. and..it didnt look like a dog chewed it.. then they will probably load up software on it and exchange it to someone else... i would just do it.. but thats me
honestabe said:
i would just hard reset it and send it back.. how would they know??? plus ur not sayin its a software issue.. so i would think they wont be lookin' for that.. im pretty sure they would just make sure it wasnt in water.. and..it didnt look like a dog chewed it.. then they will probably load up software on it and exchange it to someone else... i would just do it.. but thats me
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well, someone has been refused...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1081701&highlight=refuse#post1081701
I am new here, but after reading a lot, is there still any good reason to cid-unlock a G4? I mean, I can upgrade the radio just fine, now I can even upgrade the OS, the only thing I can't upgrade is the boot (but that's ok, I got 2.xx from an official rom) and the extended rom (and I really can't understant why I need it, it just saves time, I can manually install the programs I need). Am I missing something here?
Yes,
One of the main reason, imei.uk is getting a huge loss, if you wanna give them bread you should unlock your CID
I'm new here too Paulo. I think I successfully unlocked the SID/CID using lokiwiz02b.
Do you know if there's a way to verify the CID is unlocked. I read about how to check the SID though.
technicallysound said:
I'm new here too Paulo. I think I successfully unlocked the SID/CID using lokiwiz02b.
Do you know if there's a way to verify the CID is unlocked. I read about how to check the SID though.
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I'm surprised you got all the way to reading how to use lokiwiz02b and skipped the part about it not being for G4 devices.
So, no your phone isn't unlocked. But it doesn't need to be either for just flashing ROMs.
samy.3660 said:
Yes,
One of the main reason, imei.uk is getting a huge loss, if you wanna give them bread you should unlock your CID
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Good joke . Imei-ckeck made way too much money on this allready (mine too). Couldn't care less even if they went broke .
if you want to change the imei on your G4 , you need to CID unlock, so that's 1 reason to cid unlock
Which is better? I don't want to mod my phone that much, and like to stick with retail roms....thanks
MakaveliReturns said:
Which is better? I don't want to mod my phone that much, and like to stick with retail roms....thanks
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Then leave, no offense.
If you don't want to mod it, then take what your provider gave you and be happy. If not, then download some commercial applications.
But if you want to improve your phone, and make it realize it's full potential, then you are gonna have to get in to some mods.
Sorry mate, I'm just fed up with all the "how do I make my phone neato keano" questions from people.
It takes some willingness to experiment, some computer know how, and 99 times out of 100 all will be well. (BTW, I'm the one out of the hundred, I totally bricked one).
Retail ROMS, no such thing, you can't buy em.
Heh, jeez man, you seem to make alot of assumptions based on no information.
I am very computer literate, and I am passing down my phone to somebody else who has no clue how to do this stuff and probably does not care for it either.
I had a cooked ROM on it, but went back to a retail SPL and installed the retail AT&T (Beta?) WM6 Rom on my 8525.
Seriously though, you shouldn't assume such things about people especially over the internet.
The key benefit to HardSPL is that it protects accidental overwrite of SPL & IPL. Basically, it protects against bricking the phone. If it were me, I would always keep HardSPL, even if I were running a retail ROM. It really only affords protection during flashing process, so if you are not going to flash anything, you really don't need it - kinda like wearing a condom whike you aren't having sex, I guess. However, unlike the condom example, when you do decide to flash again, you would have to put HardSPL on there, which is itself a flashing process, so you would be vulnerable.
Always practice safe flashing!
Thanks, Todd.
I think you already answered about this in the other thread...but not yet. I can't get a retail ROM to install without extracting it first..even on SPL-Retail
lol i remember when i got my x01ht... i wanted to keep it softbank and just have this sexy phone from japan.... I read japanese so that wouldnt have been a problem and I am moving back to japan next year, so I thought it was perfect.
I had to unlock it using a code (which worked after flashing to hardspl 1.10 and then back to hardspl 2.10), but softbank still had that stupid welcome.exe issue. So i flashed to HTC's WM6 wwe rom. No more 'neato keano' for me.
Then i discovered letsjapan and ime3_1qvga (whatever its called)... I can have my japanese functionality with an english rom!! w00t.
Then i discovered schaps... I am so far from neato keano... but still barely breaking the surface.
I know this story is pointless, but if anyone is reading this with the 'neato keano' idea... get real, try some stuff and you will never go back (unless for warranty purposes ).
MakaveliReturns said:
Thanks, Todd.
I think you already answered about this in the other thread...but not yet. I can't get a retail ROM to install without extracting it first..even on SPL-Retail
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Is your phone CID unlocked? Maybe you have a mismatched CID. HardSPL bypasses the CID check, retail does not.
todd_jg said:
Is your phone CID unlocked? Maybe you have a mismatched CID. HardSPL bypasses the CID check, retail does not.
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Hi Todd,
my phone is unlocked via a code from AT&T, so I didn't use any of the tools found on this forum. So I think it is still SuperCIDed??
The updater just crashes, I posted a screenshot in the other thread. If I extract the directory and run the RUU by itself it flashes fine.
Maybe because I am trying to flash the same ROM again on top of the same one??
MakaveliReturns said:
Hi Todd,
my phone is unlocked via a code from AT&T, so I didn't use any of the tools found on this forum. So I think it is still SuperCIDed??
The updater just crashes, I posted a screenshot in the other thread. If I extract the directory and run the RUU by itself it flashes fine.
Maybe because I am trying to flash the same ROM again on top of the same one??
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Well, the code almost certainly would not superCID your phone. Only remove the SIM lock. The RUU is checking the CID restriction on the phone and disallowing the flash. The only flash that would work without unpacking is the one intended for and released by your carrier - AT&T rom to AT&T rom, for example. As I mentioned, the reason unpacking works is because Oli's RUU bypasses the CID check. Does seem odd that the same ROM won't flash though...
Hey fellas,
I wonder if there is anyway to realize if your phone's ROM had been flashed before I bought it?
I have recently bought a new hd2, and as the ROM was very old, I decided to upgrade the ROM (from Taiwan region which was the only region allowed me to download ROM update because of the phone serial number), but after upgrading the language of my phone changed to Taiwanese. Accordingly, I guess my phone ROM had been flashed before I bought it, otherwise the language would have been Taiwanese FROM THE BEGINNING.
If we assume the seller has used HSPL to install the WWE ( English ) ROM on my phone, What if he/she had already removed the HSPL before selling it to me? Is there any other way to find out if my phone had been flashed?
I want to debate the seller but I want a good proof before any talk to them.
look in bootloader at what it says next to spl. If it ends '.hspl' then it has been hspl'd, but if they removed it, theres no way to tell. perhaps they used a goldcard, perhaps they used sspl.
samsamuel said:
look in bootloader at what it says next to spl. If it ends '.hspl' then it has been hspl'd, but if they removed it, theres no way to tell. perhaps they used a goldcard, perhaps they used sspl.
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It says SPL- 3.03.0000 XE,
By the way, is using Gold Card or SSPL illegal? I am asking this because if it is legal, I can't debate them.
Using HSPL falls in a gray area in terms of being legal or not, right?
it does mean that whilst its on the phone, but its not on the phone (your spl ends .0000, that means its stock) anymore so no problem. it doesnt break warranty permanently, only whilst its there, and its not, so dont worry about it.
Since its got a 3.14 rom on there, they must have used goldcard anyway, not hspl, and yes, theoretically it broke warranty by bypassing the manufacturers checks, BUT there is still all valid software on there, and no proof anything untowards happened, so no problem.
samsamuel said:
Since its got a 3.14 rom on there, they must have used goldcard anyway, not hspl, and yes, theoretically it broke warranty by bypassing the manufacturers checks, BUT there is still all valid software on there, and no proof anything untowards happened, so no problem.
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Actually when I got it, it was ROM 1.43 Version, but I upgraded it and the ROM being 3.14 is as a result of my Upgrade, not theirs.
I can't be 100% sure but for me, if it's a Taiwanese phone with another language... then it has been flashed.
Anyway, what do you want to complain about?... you put it back to "original" setting by flashing the Taiwanese ROM... hope you can read it
One way could be if the previous owner sell it as "UK version" (any version but Taiwanese). Then you didn't buy what was advertised for.
truc007 said:
Anyway, what do you want to complain about?... you put it back to "original" setting by flashing the Taiwanese ROM... hope you can read it
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My complaint will be "Why you sold me an illegally flashed phone". (Assuming flashing phones is illegal, which I am not still sure about it)
Well, you can expect it from a eBay second hand private seller, but not from a reputable retailer.
Meteorite-The-Second said:
My complaint will be "Why you sold me an illegally flashed phone". (Assuming flashing phones is illegal, which I am not still sure about it)
Well, you can expect it from a eBay second hand private seller, but not from a reputable retailer.
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Since when is flashing a phone illegal?!? Hard SPL flashing "may" void your warranty. But if you use the original HTC roms theres no problem.
DonDie said:
Since when is flashing a phone illegal?!? Hard SPL flashing "may" void your warranty. But if you use the original HTC roms theres no problem.
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Are you sure? You have a source for it? Cause if you have, you'll make me so happy.
Do you like the phone? Does the phone work? If you answered 'Yes' to both of these my next question would be 'Does it matter?'!!
Prozac69 said:
Do you like the phone? Does the phone work? If you answered 'Yes' to both of these my next question would be 'Does it matter?'!!
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Apparently you didn't read my first post.
The phone language is now Chinese and its as a result of the fact that they probably sold me a flashed phone.
Now I have to either live with a Chinese language phone or I have to ( illegally? ) flash the phone again...
what's there to complain about now when you already flashed/upgrade to a new ROM?
That's like buying a new car from the dealership, installed turbos on it, blow the engine, and now demanding that the dealership to reimburse you for selling a lemon.
You shouldn't have touched or flashed the phone at all until you find out if it's a virgin HD2 or not.
lude219 said:
That's like buying a new car from the dealership, installed turbos on it, blow the engine, and now demanding that the dealership to reimburse you for selling a lemon.
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If you believe flashin phones is not illegal, that's one thing. BUT:
I really don't know how you compare installing a turbo on a car ( which clearly voids the warranty of the car due to the warranty terms and conditions ) and installing an OFFICIAL upgrade from the FORMAL htc website into my phone! I am not the one who flashed the phone so why I should be blamed?! I only did a legal upgrade and that's all.
Mate, tell me where in the htc website is mentioned that "you must not upgrade your phone ROM before you are sure that your phone is not flashed by the seller"?!
Assuming flashing the phone with another region's ROM is illegal:
They shouldn't have sold me a flashed phone in the first place. If it had not been flashed, I would not have faced this problem.
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If you believe flashin phones is not illegal, that's one thing. BUT:
I really don't know how you compare installing a turbo on a car ( which clearly voids the warranty of the car due to the warranty terms and conditions ) and installing an OFFICIAL upgrade from the FORMAL htc website into my phone! I am not the one who flashed the phone so why I should be blamed?! I only did a legal upgrade and that's all.
Mate, tell me where in the htc website is mentioned that "you must not upgrade your phone ROM before you are sure that your phone is not flashed by the seller"?!
Assuming flashing the phone with another region's ROM is illegal:
They shouldn't have sold me a flashed phone in the first place. If it had not been flashed, I would not have faced this problem.
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My point is that you have already flashed another ROM on top of it (official rom or not)...so what other trace of previous flashes being on there? I mean, you verified that the SPL is original and had 1.43 rom (which is realllllyyy old) on it, I don't know what else you want.
How is the packaging? Any form of knicks and scratch anywhere on the phone?
wow. definitely one of the silliest questions I can remember ever reading here.
Why is this a silly question? Sure, most users here don't care if they void their warranty by circumventing security to flash whichever ROM they want, but this guy is clearly not one of them. He bought a new HD2, and if he just wants an official ROM, he shouldn't have to resort to gold card or manipulated SPL methods to install an upgrade with the same language.
Meteorite-The-Second:
First of all, you're using the term flashing in the wrong way. Flashing is the way to put a new ROM (official or not) on the phone. When you put your current official upgraded ROM on the phone you flashed it.
Flashing the phone with an official ROM for it's original region certainly doesn't void the warranty. Using any kind of SPL manipulation or gold card method to flash any other ROM probably does, though if you restore the original SPL and ROM before returning it for warranty it most likely cannot be detected.
When you flashed the ROM that is currently on the phone, I assume that you did that via a USB connection from the computer as this is the official way of doing upgrades. If that is the case, then the ROM that was on the phone before must have been flashed using soft SPL or gold card, because Hard SPL cannot be removed by flashing via USB, and you obviously have the official SPL on your phone now.
If you bought the phone new, it really doesn't matter if flashing with gold card or soft SPL is actually illegal or not. Go back to the store and demand an official english language phone. If they cannot provide that, demand your money back and buy it somewhere else. Before leaving the store with the new phone, use the phones serial number to check which official ROMs you can download from the HTC web site.
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How is the packaging? Any form of knicks and scratch anywhere on the phone?
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Look at the difference between Revisions of the two different parts of the box:
img17.imageshack.us/img17/287/img5655d.jpg ( REV B) look at the red arrow
img571.imageshack.us/img571/5381/img5656m.jpg (REV A ) look at the red arrow
Why they should differ in Revision? Are the revisions on your phone boxing parts the same?
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X1-owner said:
When you flashed the ROM that is currently on the phone, I assume that you did that via a USB connection from the computer as this is the official way of doing upgrades.
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Yes, that's the case. I did it with a usb and upgraded it with the file I got from htc taiwan.
All other regions gave me the message " This file is not suitable for your device".
X1-owner said:
The ROM that was on the phone before must have been flashed using soft SPL or gold card, because Hard SPL cannot be removed by flashing via USB, and you obviously have the official SPL on your phone now.
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What if the seller removed the hspl BEFORE selling the phone to me i.e. what if the hspl have not been there in my phone from the beginning ( I didn't check the bootloader before upgrading the ROM so I know if the hspl were there or not) ? I have heard you can remove hspl after you have flashed your phone it while keeping the new official or cooked rom. Is that right? Or will you lose your newly flashed Rom if you remove the hspl?
BTW, thank you for your help.
X1-owner said:
Hard SPL cannot be removed by flashing via USB,
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Are you sure about that? Doesn't flashing a stock ROM of the same region as your device get rid of it? Seemed to work when I wanted to downgrade from the official WWE 3.14 update.... Flashing the stock 1.66 WWE ROM took me back to SPL1.42, allowing me to put HSPL 2.08 back on.... (all done via USB)
I think if the OP explained a bit more about the phone's backgound more people might have been able to help. What country is the phone supposed to be from? Is it that it's supposed to be a UK device but it has actually come from Hong Kong? (for example)
Perhaps I shouldn't have tried to read this thread with a hangover ; )
Ouzo said:
Are you sure about that? Doesn't flashing a stock ROM of the same region as your device get rid of it? Seemed to work when I wanted to downgrade from the official WWE 3.14 update.... Flashing the stock 1.66 WWE ROM took me back to SPL1.42, allowing me to put HSPL 2.08 back on.... (all done via USB
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you just answered yourself. you didn't remove hspl by usb flashing cos hspl wasn't on your phone. you had stock 3.03 from the 3.14 rom and downgraded it to 1.66 stock, so therefore your line "seemed to work when I wanted to downgrade the......" is nonsensical.
I recently unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone. I installed TWRP and flashed a couple of custom roms ( GPE & Revolution HD ) I decided i want to go back to stock. I understand so far i gotta unroot, flash stock rom and re lock bootloader. I read something about RUU files. Any one have suggestion or help how i go about this? Again, i have AT&T varient, currently on Revolution HD Rom
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I recently unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone. I installed TWRP and flashed a couple of custom roms ( GPE & Revolution HD ) I decided i want to go back to stock. I understand so far i gotta unroot, flash stock rom and re lock bootloader. I read something about RUU files. Any one have suggestion or help how i go about this? Again, i have AT&T varient, currently on Revolution HD Rom
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There is currently no RUU available as of right now. I think the best you can do for now is to a TWRP restore. There is a stock rooted TWRP in the Android Dev forum. Although this won't un-root you, its closest to stock that you will get. For the future, always make a backup before you root and then you won't have to worry
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There is currently no RUU available as of right now. I think the best you can do for now is to a TWRP restore. There is a stock rooted TWRP in the Android Dev forum. Although this won't un-root you, its closest to stock that you will get. For the future, always make a backup before you root and then you won't have to worry
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I just ordered my device and still waiting on it to be delivered. I'm already debating on whether or not to root as I've never owned an android phone that i didn't root. From what i understand, the bootloader needs to be unlocked, then s-off, flash recovery and then root. Now, if i'm to do a nandroid of the stock ROM before I root, will I be able to lock the bootloader again, nandroid and s-on in case I need to utilize the warranty? Also, will any warranty bits show up or a tampered flag or any other problem arise that'll indicate it's been farked with? Is there a way to undo those flags? Thanks in advance to TheEmpyre or whomever else can shed some light on this.
EDIT: If the s-off is the only step that will trip the flag, is it possible to leave S, er, ON?
brianray14 said:
I just ordered my device and still waiting on it to be delivered. I'm already debating on whether or not to root as I've never owned an android phone that i didn't root. From what i understand, the bootloader needs to be unlocked, then s-off, flash recovery and then root. Now, if i'm to do a nandroid of the stock ROM before I root, will I be able to lock the bootloader again, nandroid and s-on in case I need to utilize the warranty? Also, will any warranty bits show up or a tampered flag or any other problem arise that'll indicate it's been farked with? Is there a way to undo those flags? Thanks in advance to TheEmpyre or whomever else can shed some light on this.
EDIT: If the s-off is the only step that will trip the flag, is it possible to leave S, er, ON?
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Unlocking the bootloader trips a flag. When you relock it gets rid of one flag but trips the relocked flag. Soff can get rid of all flags but you have to leave it soff. Turning it back on throws a security flag.
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If you are current AT&T customer, and can go through them for warranty, they do not care in the least whether you are bootloader unlocked, rooted, s-off, etc.
I know AT&T written policy says otherwise (they have the right refuse warranty on modded phones) but in reality they cherish you paying that nice monthly bill every month over the modest cost of a refurb phone.
I've come over from the One X (EVITA) forum, and there were many (possibly dozens) of report from XDA users successfully returning their devices for warranty with bootloader RELOCKED, UNLOCKED, and in some cases even with custom ROMs installed! And I haven't seen any reports otherwise (AT&T denying warranty due to modded phone).
If you are not a current AT&T customer, and have to go through HTC, that is a different story.
But if you are an AT&T customer, my personal opinion is that you do not need to care about being able to return to stock, tripping flags, etc. Just mod away.
redpoint73 said:
If you are current AT&T customer, and can go through them for warranty, they do not care in the least whether you are bootloader unlocked, rooted, s-off, etc.
I know AT&T written policy says otherwise (they have the right refuse warranty on modded phones) but in reality they cherish you paying that nice monthly bill every month over the modest cost of a refurb phone.
I've come over from the One X (EVITA) forum, and there were many (possibly dozens) of report from XDA users successfully returning their devices for warranty with bootloader RELOCKED, UNLOCKED, and in some cases even with custom ROMs installed! And I haven't seen any reports otherwise (AT&T denying warranty due to modded phone).
If you are not a current AT&T customer, and have to go through HTC, that is a different story.
But if you are an AT&T customer, my personal opinion is that you do not need to care about being able to return to stock, tripping flags, etc. Just mod away.
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I can second this. I just had to replace my m8 because the speakers were crackling like crazy, my bootloader showed relocked and they told me straight up that they didn't care about that as long as it was a hardware problem and not a software problem and replaced it on the spot.
I was under the impression that if you were in your first year of owning the device that faulty hardware would be covered under HTC's factory warranty and not AT&T?
brianray14 said:
I was under the impression that if you were in your first year of owning the device that faulty hardware would be covered under HTC's factory warranty and not AT&T?
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Looking at the return info, I can see where the confusion might come from. It says "Return directly to manufacturer" for 15 days or more:
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/returnpolicy.html#fbid=KMGdewZyG_f
But AFAIK, all warranty returns go to AT&T when you work through their warranty department. You send them your defective phone, and they send you a refurb. I haven't had to go through this process myself, but this is what has been reported many times on XDA and other forums.
Any update on this how to lock bootloader for HTC M8 AT&T with 4.4.3 InsertCoin 4.1.1 Rom S-On of course.
How do I lock the bootloader in order to upgrade to stock 4.4.4?
im2c0ol said:
Any update on this how to lock bootloader for HTC M8 AT&T with 4.4.3 InsertCoin 4.1.1 Rom S-On of course.
How do I lock the bootloader in order to upgrade to stock 4.4.4?
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No "update" on this issue is required. The process has been the same for a couple years or more. Further, you've posted the same/similar question to multiple places, and its been answered already in multiple places.
Connect phone to computer in fastboot mode.
Open command prompt, and type: fastboot OEM lock
From there, you can run the RUU.