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hey guys from prophet forum!
had started this service out to TYTN users and figured i should spread the news around to some of the other boards. if you guys are looking for push email, please get in touch here's what i posted in the tytn forum:
I'm now offering exchange mailboxes to users (subscription based service). right now i see two, one by austindkelly in the wizard forum (he's disappeared for over a month and looks like he doens't offer his service any more) and one by denial in the kaiser section ($5/month). I thought I'd offer up a similar service starting with the hermes group (cheaper of course) with a few extra tidbits of joy...
- supports iphone exchange services, saves a heck of money over apple's mobileme service!
- outlook web access (with the advanced interface)
- 1gb quota
- both SSL as well as standard port options
- *IMAP access* - you don't even need outlook, syncs flawlessly with your phone.
- *MAPI* outlook access - hook up your outlook on your PC to sync with my service which in turn syncs with your phone. no plugging in ever needed!
- alias included (get your own email)
- changing your password through outlook web access (one-way non-reversible encryption).
I figured it's a bit of an overkill having my own exchange server that's serving a single account (i.e. mine). so why not open it up!
Price is $10 for 3 months, $19 for 6 months.
Please PM me if you're interested... I'll probably set up your account within 12 hours (probably less).
And yes, will give you unused credit money back etc etc if you're unsatisfied for whatever reason. I'm really not in this for the money, it's more to utilize something I spent hours building up, plus to cover the costs of my internet / server hardware.
And, as usual, if you need any files hosted for xda-developers just let me know, i'm already hosting over 40 ROM images and serving 5-6gb/day in ROMs from the wiki!
cheers!
free accounts:
will provide 10 rotating free accounts at any given time for test purposes, will base it off of usage. so if you use the free account, i'll keep it up indefinitely, if not then account will be removed after 14 days and given to the next person in line.
Free accounts have 50mb storage, and have no alias, and no MAPI access...
Depending on utilization I may increase this 10 free account limit.
two account requests from a couple of hours ago have been set up - please check your PMs
few people are asking about synching from multiple sources...
from my understanding i can only give you one alias for your accounts, which means you can't select your "from." however you're free to forward as many accounts as you wish to the account i create for you, but you can only send from one "alias."
another multi-synching thing people are asking is whether you can sync calendar with your desktop and email with my service. sure!! its best that way in fact - that's what i do. i have my outlook on my desktop which has my calendar, contacts, and only sync my email via push on exchange to my server... you can even take this a step further and set up IMAP access so what you see in your email client is the same as what you'll see in your pocket outlook... if you delete from your desktop, whoosh it disappears from your PDA too
this is stupid,why you people just sign up in gmail.com and start using all of the above,even better for free???
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this is stupid,why you people just sign up in gmail.com and start using all of the above,even better for free???
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everyone please say hello to the latest clueless forum newbie.
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everyone please say hello to the latest clueless forum newbie.
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JAJAJAJAJAJA!!
MAPI (i.e. desktop outlook) access is now enabled
still plenty of resources to use up so drop me a line if interested!
Hi chameleon. I have sent you a PM - I am keen to give this a try. I have read through the thread in Hermes section. Glad you have MAPI sorted now.
Clearly Zeroed doesn't understand the power of Exchange Server!
I read that you are using Exchange Server 2003. Do I presume you have it patched with SP2?
Thanks for providing this service. I will comment here how it works out for me as a Prophet user.
Richard
Richard Fantom said:
Hi chameleon. I have sent you a PM - I am keen to give this a try. I have read through the thread in Hermes section. Glad you have MAPI sorted now.
Clearly Zeroed doesn't understand the power of Exchange Server!
I read that you are using Exchange Server 2003. Do I presume you have it patched with SP2?
Thanks for providing this service. I will comment here how it works out for me as a Prophet user.
Richard
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hey richard!
account set up check your PM. yep, using ES2003 with SP2.
quick note: MAPI will be a subscriber-only feature, but i'd be glad to enable it for the test users (PM me) for testing purposes.
cheers!
going to take the server down for about 15-20 minutes this afternoon for a quick reboot and offline backup. planning for 3:00pm GMT. please be patient, hopefully it should be done much much faster!
Hi friend,
Any chance you would be upgradin ExServer 2007 in the near future?Would like to try that out...
hi there,
won't be upgrading to exserver 2007 unfortunately; my hardware doesn't support it
quick question - has anyone here managed to get this to work with outlook '07? if i recall someone had, but someone pointed out that they get an error message saying that this version of outlook has been blocked by the administrator, which just isn't true
updates: outlook '07 started working - user discovered you just need to enable cached exchange mode.
i also have a couple of trial accounts left for those i turned down last week if you're still interested, shoot me a PM
Quick update regarding update in the server!
I know I've had some VERY avoidable downtimes this past few months. Because this is running on a laptop it has been unplugged from the power / ethernet while its been moved.
however good news! I've just purchased a replacement - a nice server
Specs - dual core AMD 5600+ with 2 gb RAM, 820gb storage (for those attachments ).
i'll do the switchover soon as i get the machine, should hopefully take 10-15 minutes as i just need to image the drive across.
once i get the machine i'll push up the trial accounts to 15 or 20 so if you're interested i'll post here when the migration is done and you can drop me a note
cheers!
been getting a few PMs recently about whether i still offer this (maybe its the iphone crowd finding a cheaper alternative to apple's crazy crap service!).
yes i do and i think users can attest to the fact that since the upgrade to the new server been up and running at 100% since june!
drop me a PM if any of you need service. and yes, it is compatible with the iphone - i use it on my iphone too.
quick note - yes there was a 3 hour outage between 5am and 8ish am on saturday; sorry about that. seems my ISP went down, given how short the outage was and how this was the first one in god knows how long i didn't bother spending 1/2 an hour on the phone with them figuring out what the issue was will chase it up if it happens again though!
can someone who has successfully set up outlook 07 with my service PM me with the settings they've used? i need to get some instructions on my site on how to do it, and i don't use exchange 07 myself...
thanks!
UPDATE Now offering Exchange 2010 accounts - fully compatible with latest outlook, html email etc!
Information and registration at https://exchange.etbox.info
One thing that I didn't like about Sprint is that it didn't offer a desktop redirector software for e-mail. In my case, my company uses MS Exchange, but doesn't have OWA setup for my phone to be able to sync. Alltel and ATT I know for sure have desktop redirector software, not sure what ATT calls it but Alltel calls it "Office Sync". It basically just redirects your Exchange features (email, calander, tasks, ect) to your phone.
I have no idea how long Seven has had their beta program open, but I recently found it and it works great. So if anyone else was in my boat, have fun with this. Here is the link.
http://community.seven.com/main.php
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One thing that I didn't like about Sprint is that it didn't offer a desktop redirector software for e-mail. In my case, my company uses MS Exchange, but doesn't have OWA setup for my phone to be able to sync. Alltel and ATT I know for sure have desktop redirector software, not sure what ATT calls it but Alltel calls it "Office Sync". It basically just redirects your Exchange features (email, calander, tasks, ect) to your phone.
I have no idea how long Seven has had their beta program open, but I recently found it and it works great. So if anyone else was in my boat, have fun with this. Here is the link.
http://community.seven.com/main.php
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I was in the same boat as you, I came from Verizon Wireless where I was using their Wireless Sync program on my desktop since my company does not allow me to go directly to our Exchange servers. I thought when I went over to Sprint they would have a comparable application - I didn't do my homework very well. I was not so worried about losing wireless sync for calendar, tasks, and notes, ActiveSync when I get the chance is fine. Email was another thing. My solution, which was not so elagant, was to setup a server based rule to redirect all email out to my personal pop3 email account which I setup especially for this purpose using the same name as work, just a different @ address. This insures that my email responses contain a from address as close as possible to my work address.
That having been said, you are the first person who has proposed anything similar to VZ Wireless Sync. I am anxious to try this out but am sceptical about using beta software. I will investigate the company you provided with caution. Any additional insights would greatly be appreciated. Thanks again for a least giving hope....
Try mail2web.com.
Just forward your mail there.
They are a free exchange service.
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I was in the same boat as you, I came from Verizon Wireless where I was using their Wireless Sync program on my desktop since my company does not allow me to go directly to our Exchange servers. I thought when I went over to Sprint they would have a comparable application - I didn't do my homework very well. I was not so worried about losing wireless sync for calendar, tasks, and notes, ActiveSync when I get the chance is fine. Email was another thing. My solution, which was not so elagant, was to setup a server based rule to redirect all email out to my personal pop3 email account which I setup especially for this purpose using the same name as work, just a different @ address. This insures that my email responses contain a from address as close as possible to my work address.
That having been said, you are the first person who has proposed anything similar to VZ Wireless Sync. I am anxious to try this out but am sceptical about using beta software. I will investigate the company you provided with caution. Any additional insights would greatly be appreciated. Thanks again for a least giving hope....
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Let me know what you think. This solution was perfect for me, no problems at all, works great all the time.
You know moTweets right?
The super cheap Twitter client (only US$3.99) that Panoramic Software developed.
It has a very nice GUI like iPhone, got complete and perfectly-working feature as well.
And this morning I asked Panoramic to develop Facebook application as well, since there is no single good/decent Facebook application for WinMo yet.
Even the M$' Facebook app is suck and not working right. It even can't fetch the stream by itself, need manual refresh.
The other simply used the cropped version (mobile version) of NewsFeed, not the complete one like BlackBerry's.
I asked them to make Facebook application for WinMo with nice GUI like moTweets and the functionality like Facebook for BlackBerry.
And here's their answer to my idea (we had conversation via Twitter) @PanoramicSoft: "We will definitely consider creating a Facebook app for WinMo. Thanks."
So, just tweet them and give them a vote.
They're surveying whether they need to develop this app or not.
Don't vote here, just send a tweet to @PanoramicSoft or email them at [email protected].
I'm not Panoramic's affiliate. I'm just the satisfied customer that use their moTweets application. And I want to share the idea here so if you all want a good/decent Facebook app, this is the solution.
Or, as I put in the other thread where you mentioned this, use the Microsoft developed Facebook client.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/facebook.mspx
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Or, as I put in the other thread where you mentioned this, use the Microsoft developed Facebook client.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/facebook.mspx
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Yup, but that program is a dead program, no further development (stuck in 1.0.0.7p for long time), very slow, can't even do simple basic task (live news feed like the Blackberry's), can't fetch notification, and so many more bugs that rendering it useless...
Up you go! Be the first post in Dev&Hack...
yeah. MS has a crappy client for facebook. half the time I dont get my messages or even look at my profile.
What is it with microsoft. I thought thay paid a **** load for facebook and thay can't make a good app. Saw the new one on my mates I-phone the other day and it was cool.So I'm up for this.
Yeah, that's why, I suggest Panoramic Soft to make one with great interface like moTweets.
They're taking votes now, so just drop an email to [email protected] or tweet them via twitter: @PanoramicSoft
Coz I'm not Panoramic's people. I'm just their satisfied customer. ^^
If the vote is sufficient, They'll start developing the app for Facebook.
Up! Up! Up! Make this post to the first page. Let peoples know about this..
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sent an email..
Yupz... Just need a vote to make them start developing the Facebook apps.
And I think peoples in XDA-Devs not really interested in Facebook.
No response from XDA-Devs peoples.. Only one or two peoples interested...
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Yupz... Just need a vote to make them start developing the Facebook apps.
And I think peoples in XDA-Devs not really interested in Facebook.
No response from XDA-Devs peoples.. Only one or two peoples interested...
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hmm...perhaps.'ill forward this post tovother forum and hope there'll be more people sending them mails..i guess using my siblinfs' email acc to send them mail is not cheating
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hmm...perhaps.'ill forward this post tovother forum and hope there'll be more people sending them mails..i guess using my siblinfs' email acc to send them mail is not cheating
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Yup, please help me forwarding this. I'm currently sending an email to all my Facebook friends, Twitter followers, and all of the forum I'm currently in.
Thanks for the support.. Hope that we can get a decent Facebook apps.
Im in the same boat as you all guys. WM needs a good Facebook apps. The one from MS sucks!
Not only sucks, the one from MS isn't counted as an app at all for me.. I even uninstall it after first use.. It even lack basic auto-refresh feature, not to mention about live-feed... I think that MS' programmers can't even make live-feed feature for Facebook app... Or maybe they don't know how to utilize Facebook's API..
you know ever since I started using Mini5 i kinda fell off the boat as far as using facebook goes. My facebook is sync'd to my yahoo account which I'm using push for. My favorites(which opera mini has that looks like google chrome) has iphone facebook account page saved which has a very slick and usable UI. So its really just one push of the button from the internet. I dunno...if I were to want anything it would be more like the X1's facebook panel which is really nice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAtiCEE3hDQ and I actually liked it back when i was running the panels on my HD.
No need to copy innovation when you can port it.
you could go to x.facebook.com in opera mobile, works perfectly on my touch pro, but i agree, an app would be nice, especially if its like the xperia one, i sent a request to them.
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Don't vote here, just send a tweet to @PanoramicSoft or email them at [email protected].
I'm not Panoramic's affiliate. I'm just the satisfied customer that use their moTweets application. And I want to share the idea here so if you all want a good/decent Facebook app, this is the solution.
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Sent an email. We'll keep our fingers crossed.
i dont use facebook at all, but i would like that winmo has better facebook app than ipony
just tell me what to send/type in email
I'd be grateful if someone in the know would clue me in:
Stock Android, I believe since 2.0, has supported multiple Exchange sync accounts (at least for email sync, and probably contacts). Running the
Android emulator on the desktop, I can configure as many accounts as I please.
However... I just took delivery of a Samsung Fascinate (Verizon) and as hard as I try, I can't make it configure a second account (it dumps me into the 'edit' UI for the first account when I ask to create a second one).
So I tried an HTC Incredible that we have here. Same behavior !
Yet, when I Google search 'samsung galaxy s multiple exchange accounts', I find a bunch of people claiming to be using multiple accounts.
What's up with this? Am I just not doing the setup correctly, or did Samsung remove this capability from the devices recently ?
I also figured I could install the stock Android email app as a workaround, but that doesn't exactly seem to be a 'one-click' process. K-9 has no ActiveSync support, so that isn't useful.
Can't speak for anyone else, but I have yet to see any Android phone that supports multiple Exchange accounts out of the box. That's one of the reasons I bought Touchdown, as it supports multiple Exchange profiles. Of course, only one of them can be active at a time, but if I needed to have two accounts active simultaneously, I could use Touchdown for one, and the stock email app for the other. Oh, and just FYI, I didn't mean for this to become a Touchdown advertisement. ^^;
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Actually, I have a Touchdown license so this is a good plan.
Presumably the situation is this : stock Android supports multiple accounts but none of the device vendor skins do, yet. Correct ? (and it isn't possible to manifest the stock Android behavior side-by-side with the vendor skin).
I was just coming in here to ask this question. I would like a way to get multiple exchange accounts too. Since it was supported in 2.0 on up i think we should be able to get this to work. Unless Samsung messed this up for us.
Hmm, I thought Sammy left the stock Android email app on the Fascinate, but it looks as though they modified it just enough to cripple it. :-(
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There are actually good reasons NOT to do this. Corporate IT admins have massive problems with this, and because Google/Sammy/etc. are actually TRYING to work with corporate IT... you end up with this.
Outlook doesn't allow it either, nor does any other mail program which respects Activesync conventions.
It has to do with security... and compartmentalization.
The Droid X and the Droid supported 2nd Exchange accounts.
I'm sorry, but I disagree that this is a security issue. They are completely disparate accounts, and this functionality should be stock on all Android phones.
That said, the Samsung client is the worst of all of them, and Touchdown is the best option, IMHO.
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There are actually good reasons NOT to do this. Corporate IT admins have massive problems with this, and because Google/Sammy/etc. are actually TRYING to work with corporate IT... you end up with this.
Outlook doesn't allow it either, nor does any other mail program which respects Activesync conventions.
It has to do with security... and compartmentalization.
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Oh, really? That's interesting. I work on the helpdesk for an IT company that hosts Exchange servers (and much more) for dozens of clients, including numerous medical and financial institutions (i.e. security is a significant concern), and I have never heard about any such security issue. Please explain to me how being able to setup multiple Exchange accounts on a single device is such a huge security concern, and include links to references if possible, as I may want to present the information at our security meeting, which I'm actually attending tomorrow. No joke, that's my job, and I am on the security team.
Btw, Microsoft themselves eliminated the single Exchange account limitation with Outlook 2010. It's still not unlimited, but you can now have three Exchange accounts per Outlook profile. Oh, and did I mention that iOS 4 now also supports multiple Exchange accounts per device? So yeah, if you have any links to share about these alleged security nightmares, feel free to enlighten me.
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That said, the Samsung client is the worst of all of them, and Touchdown is the best option, IMHO.
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While I tend to agree with you, I'd like to point out that I haven't seen any issues with actually reliably syncing with an Exchange server with the Fascinate, whereas the mail client on the original Droid was plagued with bugs, and while it improved later on, one of the more recent post-Froyo patches broke the ability to sync with Exchange 2010 (which has since been fixed).
Also, if I remember correctly, the helpdesk I work on got a bunch of calls from clients who bought the Droid X when it first came out, because it couldn't sync with Exchange 2003, which was a pretty serious bug. Motorola had apparently tested it thoroughly with Exchange 2007 and 2010, but never with 2003. It was so bad that they were giving away licenses for Touchdown for free to anyone that complained, until they were able to issue a patch for it.
Anyway, no mail client is perfect, and all have their pros and cons. Which stock one is better or worse depends on whether the features that don't work right matter to you or not. Me, I'll stick with Touchdown, which basically mops the floor with the stock mail clients, just in sheer volume of features alone.
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IOS 4, android 2.* and up and WP7 all support multiple exchange accounts. Unfortunatley Samsung messed this up for us.
I wonder if there is a way to pull the AOSP e-mail.apk and try that? Or if there would be another way around this.
Since someone got a little cranky I will elaborate on the security problem.
The issue is largely one of partition. Let me paint a scenario...
I am government contractor x. I provide you with exchange on your phone. Your phone very helpfully merges all your data together. That violates my policies. Additionally, your android device doesn't respect remote wipe, remote lock, or security policy for disclaimers, password complexity, etc.
But the biggest issue is that the exchange data isn't self-contained.
If the phone, client, or whatever provides partitioning of the data then multiple accounts becomes a possibility.
Essentially I as an exchange admin don't want some other company's mail cross pollinating with mine. And because my company is in Massachusetts, it's actually a violation of state law at this point to let our emails into someone else's system.
Outlook 2010 supports separate cache files, contact lists, and all other data... So it can do multiple accounts. The iphone doesn't, and neither does droid.
I love my android phone, but I cannot let the end users have them, because we can't secure thee data. Full stop.
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And yes, ios 4 and some iterations of droid do allow this, but not in s way that is kosher with either microsoft or your mail admins.
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Hehe, I wasn't cranky. I just wanted some additional info to back up a rather vague, blanket statement about data security. I could go on to discuss security issues, but it looks like your concerns exist at a much higher level. If the Android platform as a whole is too insecure for you to allow, then whether or not a phone supports multiple Exchange accounts is irrelevant. That being the case, I won't draw this on much longer, as it's beginning to drift off topic.
Based on what you've listed as your security requirements, I believe Touchdown actually has a strong enough feature set to safely allow Android devices to work in your environment. It supports a healthy set of Exchange security policies, namely remote wipe, PIN/password policies, and complete data encryption (it even encrypts the data it stores on the SD card), and since it only allows one account per profile, and all data is contained within the application itself, and not mixed on the phone, the partition requirement is met. Plus, you can deploy a template that dictates desired config settings for the app, and locks them down to prevent users from changing them. Oh, and don't forget the added benefit of standardization, in that you would only have a single email app to support, regardless of which Android device end users have. The only real down side is the added cost, as it's extra software to buy. And for those wondering, no, I do NOT work for NitroDesk, the makers of Touchdown.
I apologize if I'm still failing to understand any of your points in all this. I do have an interest in security topics like this, and while I'm not completely ignorant, I'm by no means an expert either, not by a long shot. If you'd like to discuss this any further, feel free to PM me, so we don't get any further off topic in this thread. Thanks!
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Essentially I as an exchange admin don't want some other company's mail cross pollinating with mine. And because my company is in Massachusetts, it's actually a violation of state law at this point to let our emails into someone else's system.
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I have never in my life heard of this happening, nor is there any proof that it's technically possible. I get the whole concept of all data being on the same partition, but cross pollination? They are totally different accounts, with their own data stores.
If a companies security policy is this strict, they probably shouldn't have any phone connecting to their network, unless they have a device management tool in place that prohibits installation of any 3rd party apps unless they install them themselves. Oh and they should probably remove the camera too, if they're a government contractor with this much security in place.
I don't think the Fascinate was designed for a company like this.
Just to throw in my 2 cents. A division of the company i work for engineers nuclear plants and because of the strict government regulations only blackberries are permited because other platforms are not secure enough.
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I have never in my life heard of this happening, nor is there any proof that it's technically possible. I get the whole concept of all data being on the same partition, but cross pollination? They are totally different accounts, with their own data stores.
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Really? Your contact list isn't comprised of all the contacts from all the accounts? Do you keep strict track of which little yellow "new mail" envelope you've just pulled down? It can't happen? Think again.
If a companies security policy is this strict, they probably shouldn't have any phone connecting to their network, unless they have a device management tool in place that prohibits installation of any 3rd party apps unless they install them themselves. Oh and they should probably remove the camera too, if they're a government contractor with this much security in place.
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Yup. Guess why Blackberries are still the biggest corporate device? For exactly this reason. Why is there always a Blackberry variant with no camera? BINGO.
I don't think the Fascinate was designed for a company like this.
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No Droid or iPhone was.
Then why are we even having this conversation? We're talking about the Fascinate.
Also, we were talking about email, not contacts. Emails are stored in entirely different data stores. I don't have 1 giant inbox with emails from both accounts. They are totally separated.
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Then why are we even having this conversation? We're talking about the Fascinate.
Also, we were talking about email, not contacts. Emails are stored in entirely different data stores. I don't have 1 giant inbox with emails from both accounts. They are totally separated.
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Because Exchange isn't POP or IMAP. It's an entire comm system. It's not just mail, it's contacts and calendar and notes and public folders and a half dozen other things.
If you just want to sync the contents of two Exchange inboxes, sure there's no TECHNICAL reason you can't. But that's not how Exchange WORKS, typically. I'm sure you could write a client that does that, but as yet folks haven't.
You can go in and uncheck to sync the calendar and contacts, but new "events" will still arrive and have to be thrown out by the client. Essentially you would need to write MORE code to NOT have the entire system than you would to HAVE it.
I'm sorry but that isn't true. Like I said earlier, I was able to add more than one Exchange account - contacts, calendar, and email - on both my Droid and Droid X. One Exchange account for work, and the other a personal account through a hosted Exchange provider. There was no "cross pollination" between either account, and each had a completely separate inbox/data stores. So not only is it technically possible, the functionality is also available for use. Also, as a security professional, I think there are other real security concerns/vulnerabilities to focus on, than something that has never been proven to be one.
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I'm sorry but that isn't true. Like I said earlier, I was able to add more than one Exchange account - contacts, calendar, and email - on both my Droid and Droid X. One Exchange account for work, and the other a personal account through a hosted Exchange provider. There was no "cross pollination" between either account, and each had a completely separate inbox/data stores. So not only is it technically possible, the functionality is also available for use. Also, as a security professional, I think there are other real security concerns/vulnerabilities to focus on, than something that has never been proven to be one.
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I understand that you have done it before. I've done it too on an iPhone. My point is that the capability to do so is not something that comes pre-cooked in an Exchange client. MS didn't do it until recently themselves. Given that a lot of the stuff in the Fascinate is pre-2.1 due to Samsung's pidgin kernel (really a 1.5 or 1.6 kernel hacked up for 2.1, from what I've read on here) I'm not at all surprised that functionality only recently available is missing.
Like I said - it takes more code to do it than not to do it... don't hold your breath for it from Samsung, although anything is possible in 2.2!
I just got the Photon this week, it is my first Android device (coming from a TP2 w/Energy rom).
At work I use exchange server with lots of folders. Incoming emails are automatically (by rule) moved into their respective folders. With my old phone, I can tell that I have a new email in one of the many folders because that folder will be bold.
With my new Photon, I setup "corporate mail" and I only get notification of new emails in the INBOX only. If I want to check for new emails in one of the folders, I have to click on each folder and check to see what is inside, this is ridiculous b/c I have about 20 folders! The folders do not alert me of new emails within them like my crappy wm 6.5 device used to.
FYI in the folder sync options, I set the folders to "Background, Default" already.
I'm hoping someone can tell me I did something wrong! I particularly chose this phone since its advertised as a "business" phone. Hopefully there is a setting for this email issue... Thanks!!
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Hi, I'm a Sprint Launch Ambassador supporting the Photon. Are the folders that your emails are being moved to on the server or are they offline? If Outlook is automatically moving them to offline subfolders then the mail client on Photon has no way of knowing you have new mail. If the subfolders that Outlook is moving new mail to are online then let me know and I can do some testing on my own device to see if I can duplicate.
If you're a heavy Exchange user, I HIGHLY recommend investing in Touchdown. It's expensive @ $20, but worth every penny. It is the best Exchange e-mail client out there and is extremely powerful. It also allows me to segregate my work e-mail from my personal e-mail (Gmail). Look into it, I believe there's a demo/trial that you can run with for 15 days.
"Incoming emails are automatically (by rule) moved into their respective folders."
mattvalenz, I can confirm that every Android unit i've used has never alerted me for this.
My Sprint HR folder is set up this way. It never hits the inbox, hence no alert. This is an Android thing, but I'm not sure if there is a way to set up syncing properties of that particular folder to alert when the rule is used and it dumps an email there.
It's something I've never really looked into.
Other than that, since all 150+ emails a day from everyone else for me are so different, they all flush to my main inbox so I get an alert.
Beknatok said:
If you're a heavy Exchange user, I HIGHLY recommend investing in Touchdown. It's expensive @ $20, but worth every penny. It is the best Exchange e-mail client out there and is extremely powerful. It also allows me to segregate my work e-mail from my personal e-mail (Gmail). Look into it, I believe there's a demo/trial that you can run with for 15 days.
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I've never known any Android device to mix Google and Exchange accounts. Even the Photon natively segregates Gmail from the Universal Inbox.
Do you by any chance have your Gmail account set up as POP? That is the only way it would even be conceivable that Gmail would end up in the Universal Inbox. At any rate, HTC Sense keeps all inboxes segregated... I wish the Moto UI allowed for this.
In response to the OP, I can give you this insight: I'm an Exchange administrator, and inbox rules such as you have set up are not supported by Android (or the iPhone for that matter), but Windows Mobile does have the necessary extensions to support Inbox rules. They're both Microsoft products, and proprietary at that
mattvalenz said:
Hi, I'm a Sprint Launch Ambassador supporting the Photon. Are the folders that your emails are being moved to on the server or are they offline? If Outlook is automatically moving them to offline subfolders then the mail client on Photon has no way of knowing you have new mail. If the subfolders that Outlook is moving new mail to are online then let me know and I can do some testing on my own device to see if I can duplicate.
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They are on the server. If it helps any, my exchange server is hosted online (www.sherweb.com).
As a temporary fix, I changed the rule so that it "placed a copy" of the email into the respective folders. This keeps an email in the inbox, but it defeats the purpose of keeping my inbox clean...
Beknatok said:
If you're a heavy Exchange user, I HIGHLY recommend investing in Touchdown. It's expensive @ $20, but worth every penny. It is the best Exchange e-mail client out there and is extremely powerful. It also allows me to segregate my work e-mail from my personal e-mail (Gmail). Look into it, I believe there's a demo/trial that you can run with for 15 days.
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Thanks, I'll give it a shot. Doesn't sound promising given the posts regarding the being MS proprietary-ness.
Outer Marker said:
I've never known any Android device to mix Google and Exchange accounts. Even the Photon natively segregates Gmail from the Universal Inbox.
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You can if you use k9-Mail, but not by default, on which you are correct. My bad for not being clearer.
I'm glad to see that i'm not the only one with this problem.
My email server is comcast. We use cached exchange mode. No idea what the means. But I can use outlook on any network. The rules exist server side. I am able to see the new email in folders but I get no notifications.
Neither Touchdown or K9Mail are a viable solution. Touchdown is too expensive when I only get 5-10 (albeit important) emails a week, and I don't recall it really doing a good job of notifications. I tried K9 but it also does not properly notify, and it is EXTREMELY convoluted and difficult to use, and I'm a power user.
Why can't someone just write an app that watches those folders and notifies the user of email, or better yet why can't google just make their exchange app work right?
My evo used to notify me on subfolders. Not photon though.
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I ended up purchasing touchdown. The price didn't bother me as I'm a heavy exchange user for my own business. The principal of the matter bothered me though-- Photon was advertised as a business phone yet it has such a simple yet important feature missing. I really regret purchasing the photon, wish I got an HTC phone instead.
Counting down the days my 2 years is up!
fusQer said:
I ended up purchasing touchdown. The price didn't bother me as I'm a heavy exchange user for my own business. The principal of the matter bothered me though-- Photon was advertised as a business phone yet it has such a simple yet important feature missing. I really regret purchasing the photon, wish I got an HTC phone instead.
Counting down the days my 2 years is up!
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did u try K-9? open source and free
my sub folders send alerts
http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/downloads/list
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