Common Prophet problems - JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development

So this is my first post but i've been around for quite some time
Here's the deal, I bought a second hand Qtek S200 prophet which came with the original PTG wm5 rom. I flashed PDAVIET 4.0.0.6 and everything went fine.
As the days passed I started do have screen flickering and random boots followed by 30m without a life sign or boot and reboot again.
I thought the problem was the famous boot screen freeze so I decided to flash Gollums Prophet Touch VII.
The real deal starts now...
the flickering worsened... The reboots remained(especialy when charging or active sync).
Wi-fi stopped working doesn't connect. Battery consumption dropped from 4 days with pdaviet's rom to 1 day.
So I returned to PDAViet but to no avail... problems remained... reboots, screen, battery and wifi...
Tried PDA transformer... nothing...
Tried WM5 rom ENG and WM5 PTG... nothing...
Updated SPL and IPL... nothing...
Updated radio rom... nothing...
Hard reset, flashed roms and soft reset like hell... nothing...
Here's the specs:
IPL 2.20.0001
SPL 2.20.0001
RADIO 2.47.21
wm5 2.20.7.29 PTG
So any clues to any of these problems?

philocritus said:
So this is my first post but i've been around for quite some time
Here's the deal, I bought a second hand Qtek S200 prophet which came with the original PTG wm5 rom. I flashed PDAVIET 4.0.0.6 and everything went fine.
As the days passed I started do have screen flickering and random boots followed by 30m without a life sign or boot and reboot again.
I thought the problem was the famous boot screen freeze so I decided to flash Gollums Prophet Touch VII.
The real deal starts now...
the flickering worsened... The reboots remained(especialy when charging or active sync).
Wi-fi stopped working doesn't connect. Battery consumption dropped from 4 days with pdaviet's rom to 1 day.
So I returned to PDAViet but to no avail... problems remained... reboots, screen, battery and wifi...
Tried PDA transformer... nothing...
Tried WM5 rom ENG and WM5 PTG... nothing...
Updated SPL and IPL... nothing...
Updated radio rom... nothing...
Hard reset, flashed roms and soft reset like hell... nothing...
Here's the specs:
IPL 2.20.0001
SPL 2.20.0001
RADIO 2.47.21
wm5 2.20.7.29 PTG
So any clues to any of these problems?
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I would advice you to flash an official ROM, but I understand you did that already. The only thing I can think of is a hardware failure. Not all that nice, sorry....

You may be right about the hardware failure on the flickering screen and reboot...
but...
wifi and battery worked well until install of prophet touch Vii

philocritus said:
You may be right about the hardware failure on the flickering screen and reboot...
but...
wifi and battery worked well until install of prophet touch Vii
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When you downgrade to the official WM5, all drivers and so on will be replaced. You start brand new, fresh and clean. Nothing from any WM6 cooking should remain. So, if the problems persist, logically the haven't anything to do with these ROMs. To my knowledge is it not possible to damage your harware with flashing the OS to WM6..... (but my knowledge is hardly complete...)
So, I cann't give you a solution or explanation, but maybe it helps you a bit futher, succes anyway!

You're right. I'm no newbie when it comes to software all around and I know that flashing gives you a fresh start.
But I do find it very weird that the wifi stopped working since...and I'm absolutly sure it worked before so i'm guessing some registry settings are causing the problem. With pdaviet when i pressed wifi on comm manager the antenna appeared on the top task bar searching for signal and the button stayed on even if no network were to be found.
After the flash that icon never appeared again and the button remains off every time I press it.
What is even more weird is the battery life! 4 days to 1 day? without usage? I stylus soft reset and still 10% an hour battery comsumption! with a base wm5 rom! I'ts just too much!

philocritus said:
You're right. I'm no newbie when it comes to software all around and I know that flashing gives you a fresh start.
But I do find it very weird that the wifi stopped working since...and I'm absolutly sure it worked before so i'm guessing some registry settings are causing the problem. With pdaviet when i pressed wifi on comm manager the antenna appeared on the top task bar searching for signal and the button stayed on even if no network were to be found.
After the flash that icon never appeared again and the button remains off every time I press it.
What is even more weird is the battery life! 4 days to 1 day? without usage? I stylus soft reset and still 10% an hour battery comsumption! with a base wm5 rom! I'ts just too much!
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You are absolutly right that things aint normal, especially when it occurs with an official WM5 ROM. I guess you're talking about behavior without any other programs installed? I'm out of sugestions. Hope you find an answer though!

The fact that the wifi has worked and youre device began flickering and rebooting before it started not working could be the explanation.. If the device have had a hardware failure, that made the screen flicker and reboot the device, could damage the wifi chip and therefore it dosn't work anymore.. That would be my suggestion, but ofcourse only a suggestion..

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arggg imate 1.72. Same problem tha 1.66

It's incredible. After 7 hours working and battery full......I tried to turn on and nothing happens. I have had to hard reset and will try to downgrade to 1.52. Carrier Devices--> IT'S INCREDIBLE ¡¡¡¡
That's worrying, I in my 7th hour! after a smooth upgrade. Reckon if this upgrade does'nt sort it I will sell my unit and go back to Nokia!
How is possible
How is possible that CD didnt test it correctly??. I dont know what to do..... Downgrade....Sell my imate...
Dunno, lets see what comes up in these forums over next few days. So far my imate is doin OK, but like you I think I will be fed up if i start getting 'freeze" and forced hard resets again.
after removing claunch and pocket plus i havent had any of those freezes with my 1.66
mmmm, I will uninstall pocket plus...
thanks :lol:
Yes think you should....1.72 is FAST and rock solid.
what do you think pocket plus does to cause the freeze with 1.66 or 1.72. I thought the freeze was a problem with the radio version on 1.66. I run spb pocket plus v2, do you reccoment i drop it?
i run pocket plus v2 with 1.72 and 1.66 b4.... no such problem occurs...

Hard reset again. Please help(1.72)

Second time en 36 hours. After being in my gym (without coberture) i couldnt turn on the imate. I only could hard reset.
My device information is :
ROM Version: 1.72.00WWE
ROM date: 03/15/04
Radio Version: 1.14.00
Protocol version: 1337.24
ExtROM version: 1.72.800
I didnt restore my applications (i installed them from scratch).
The software that i ve installed is:
Mobimate WorldMate Pro
Paragraph calligrapher
Access NetFron 3.1
Resco Explorer 2003
Caywen Kevtris
RealCalculator
Spb Full Screen Keyboard
Spb GPRS Monitor
ScaryBear CheckNotifications
ScaryBear ClearNotify
Omega one battery pack
Tom tom gps (3.0)
Pocket Informant 5
Please help. Do you think that it's a problem of the rom? maybe the problem is in some the applications??
Please helppppppppppppppppppp
Did you restore a Backup after upgrade, or did you install all programs from scratch?...
I restored an upgrade after the 1.72 beta upgrade, and my device
then acted just like yours. It gets totaly dead for no special reason.
It also ate alot more of the battery!
I think that some programs or system DLL files have been changed in WM2003 in the new 1.72. And that´s whats causing the strange behavior.
Because when i installed all the aps from scratch, without restoring a backup everything worked perfect!
I did upgrade Thursday ( 2 days ago) all was going really well, till today. In my workplace, a radiology department, signal strength comes and goes. Guess what, my unit froze, no response had to do a hard reset. Same symptoms as with the 1.66 ROM. I don't understand what CD are up to! I have read the threads about Spb Pocket Plus (which I run) etc.. but there are so many happy users of this and other apps out there I find it hard to believe that it is responsible, I am sure it is a bug with the radio , which as far as I can see is not resolved, I bet more complaints will be forthcoming from 1.72 ROM users, not just us. (PS i started from fresh loading my apps, not a resore from previous ROM).
I have the same problem last night (for the first time), my XDA II blank when I put it in to cradlle soft reset not working, the only way is to hard reset. This is a strange behavior. :x
radio stack
I think is a problem of the radio stack. The problem appears when signal strength comes and goes. I thougth CD had solved it....But now i am sure the problem remains....
I don't think it has anything to do with the radio stack?
I believe that it is SPB software, GPRS monitor, Pocket Plus etc. I had to hard reset after a lockup but after I removed ALL SPB software I have had no issues at all. Nothing very stable and 3+ days of heavy use. Try it...remove ALL SPB software and run for a few days.
Remember 1.66 had a Microsoft Service pack 1 and 1.72 has Microsoft Service Pack 2 in the ROM. I believe there must be some issues with SPB and the service packs.
I LOVE their software but I cannot live with lockups and hard resets. So I either downgrade the rom (not an option - rom is very stable I find now, fast and my BT headset works great) or remove all their software till they sort things out.
I have run SPB GPRS monitor and pocket plus (the NEW 2.0 version) for a couple of weeks now, under heavy use. And i have had NO issues whatsoever.
i havent had any of those having to hardreset since
i removed spd plus (not the newest version)
and claunch
suppose it could just be a coincident
but i'm not installing those 2 programs again
well i also removed some of the phm software at that time come to think of it
OK guys, I am going to give it a go, will uninstall my GPRS monitor and spb pocket plus v 2, and see what happens, will let you know.
Well the best way would be a hard reset and then NOT install the apps but it is some work to do that. Hope that the uninstall does uninstall everything most do not.
Let us know...good luck.
Hello folks,
I have the exact same problem descrived above. And I use SBP's Pocket Plus, but honestly I think it has nothing to do with this problem since I hard reset my MDA2 and use it with factory defaults, no applications installed but eventually the problem came back! :evil:
It's really weird...
Let us know if somebody manages to reproduce the problem, since It occurs at random intervals.
Best regards,
Rayan
hmm ... i upgraded to 1.72 today ... within hours, it froze and sort of reseted itself and got stuck at the imate screen. Did soft reset and still stuck at the same screen, turned off xda and turned on again .. .same result. So had to do a hard reset ... luckily i restored everything within min with sprite backup.
Something interesting though, when I turned off device and pulled out battery, the screen still displated half of the imate screen ... i guess its eating off the backup battery ...
Anyway ... hope someone comes up with a fix soon ... otherwise its gonna b a pain if this keeps happening.
Hello, does anyone solve this problem, i have the same problem and it's really anoying
hehe
mine jus played up on me again yesterday. AGAIN while playing with phonedashboad but anyhow, i dont like this rom, prob gonna downgrade to 1.66 or 1.6
Well I am now 9 days on since I did a voluntary hard reset after experiencing 2 forced hard resets in 4 days with ROM 1.72 (all mmy favourite apps running including Spb Pocket Plus, GPRS monitor and others). I decidied to hard reset, start witha clean system, installed only PI, Fitaly and Sprite backup, 9 days now of trouble free i-mate usage. I am now installing apps one at a time to see what happens, stared with Hudson mobile phone dashboard, so far 2 day and all s well.
I am starting to form the opinion that my problems were down to running to many today plug ins, as i used to run all of the following :
Spb Pocket Plus v2.
Spb GPRS Monitor
Husdon Mobile Phone Dashboard
Kitara Genesis
I am a little more happier with the radio version, though i must admit i am cautious about staying too long in zones of bad or no reception.
As dherreo mentions, if you have to be a long while in a no reception zone, may be better to switch the radio off. I have my i-mate forward calls to my pager so i don't miss any incoming calls.
dmjames
Try playing around with phonedashboard such as puttin in the M2M numbers and fiddling around wiht the settings for a while. It doesnt happen everytime, but both my forced hard-resets have been during setting phonedashboard.
I havent installed spb software cos there were some speculation about conflicts with the new rom.
Well well well,
i had a very unstable and finally within about 36 hours after installing that Spb software it came to a hard reset.
now i read about it, i can finally see what it was that caused the hard reset.
I had been thinking and thinking what I installed that caused my mda to crash. but now i know it Spb Software or it has a very high probability chance
Hmm..did any of you notice the blue LED light lite when the system frooze.
My did 2 times, in three days at nearly the same time!..mine is Rom1.66..
1.66 was very stable for me besides the battery drain and slight slowness compared to 1.72 ... beside that, it neva froze once....
no hang-ups
I am using 1.72 for a week now -with Spb (!)- and it works stable
My device information is :
ROM Version: 1.72.00WWE
ROM date: 03/15/04
Radio Version: 1.14.00
Protocol version: 1337.24
ExtROM version: 1.72.126
Spb pocket plus 2.00 build 1184
Spb GPRS monitor 2.12 build 306
It seems for me there is no problem with 1.72 and Spb software.
I did however remove the "3_networkname.CAB" from the ExtROM, because I never see this before (and I don't have an i-mate). Could this be the difference?
I do have some strange problem with Alturion BT GPS serial connection since 1.66 (but not from start). All indications on the BT GPS suggest that there is a good BT connection and satelites are found but Alturion is claiming there is no GPS available. Later I installed TT3 and this had no problem with the BT GPS connection.
Probably this has nothing to do with 1.72 (or 1.66) but with the ****ty drivers from Alturion.
Ronald

Device screen sometimes does not turn on.

I have tried about 5 different WM6 roms from here mostly Gullums roms(VII, VIII, IXb, X). I am sure there are other roms that I cannot remember. By the way thank you to Gullum for his hard work cooking these roms. They seem to work fine for a few days then my device's power button will not turn on the screen and I cannot pick up a call or use the device unless I do a soft reset. The last rom I had which was VIII would require a hard reset and a lost of data. My question is wether this is the roms which have issues or just my device which is dying slowly. When I first got this device I had to ship it back to Spain because the motherboard died after a few days of use and flashing from WM5 in Spanish to WM5 in English. Has anyone had similar issues with their qtek s200 after flashing.
hope it might help!
yamilrx said:
I have tried about 5 different WM6 roms from here mostly Gullums roms(VII, VIII, IXb, X). I am sure there are other roms that I cannot remember. By the way thank you to Gullum for his hard work cooking these roms. They seem to work fine for a few days then my device's power button will not turn on the screen and I cannot pick up a call or use the device unless I do a soft reset. The last rom I had which was VIII would require a hard reset and a lost of data. My question is wether this is the roms which have issues or just my device which is dying slowly. When I first got this device I had to ship it back to Spain because the motherboard died after a few days of use and flashing from WM5 in Spanish to WM5 in English. Has anyone had similar issues with their qtek s200 after flashing.
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i am pretty soure but i have been using Gullum for very long time and i didn't get any trouble like u but this day i found some other too so i am suing othere too. but i never found like u have the problem.
so why not try from other master so u could have solved by ur self.
i have read on this forum and some where else it said if u do restored then u might got this problem but as u said it nbot
so just change clean rom WM6 and try sor some days i guess u will find findout. hope.
hope it might help u out
I am now trying transformer 1.1 and so far no power button issues. Its only been 24hrs. The problem tends to happen anytime but usually after 1 week of installing. The other issues I was having with the other roms listed was that the program would get stuck on the second screen past the initial ipl/qtek screen. Hopefully this rom will work.
I have this problem as well, but believe it has to do with Pocket player. Are you using any applications that listen to button events?
DarkMannen said:
I have this problem as well, but believe it has to do with Pocket player. Are you using any applications that listen to button events?
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I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean the windows music player. I am trying the transformer 1.1 rom but after 48hrs, today the same thing happened. I was just surfing the web on opera while in line to vote. It has happened while receiving a phone call as well and I cannot turn the screen on to answer. I did a soft reset and everything was ok. Unfortunatelly sometimes also what happens is that the software doesn't load and it requires a hard reset.
Actually i had the same problems when i use gullums rom for some reason.. I have had this problem with all of gullums rom except the coffie rom ! Try that and report back..
sorry, thread flush only~~
I also had the mentioned problem, especially with the battery <50%.
Sometimes, when I'm listening with the built in audio player and the screen is off, the playback stopps right after a track and the screen won't turn on again.
A softreset helped each time.
Also the phone is logged in in the gsm net, the caller hears the ringing, but the phone didn't ring.
Strange thing. I had the problem with ProphetTouch IX and VIII, yesterday I flashed number X.
ganjaninja said:
I also had the mentioned problem, especially with the battery <50%.
Sometimes, when I'm listening with the built in audio player and the screen is off, the playback stopps right after a track and the screen won't turn on again.
A softreset helped each time.
Also the phone is logged in in the gsm net, the caller hears the ringing, but the phone didn't ring.
Strange thing. I had the problem with ProphetTouch IX and VIII, yesterday I flashed number X.
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I have had same issue with all of those. I'd hate to downgrade to wm5 to try it a couple of days and see. Maybe I'll do that.
After closing all running programs, especially Conduits Pocket Player, this problem seems to go away. I have noticed that when I start the pocket player and wait until the screen turns off, I can not turn it back on with the power button.
I my case it seems to be connected with Pocket Player, but it could just as well be ROM related. I'll keep looking for a source.
I hope there is a simple solution to this, as it is quite annoying.
i have the same problem b4 last time, when the batery status- lock device when wake up fuction is tick.

Directional Keys - Is this a bug - or hardware?

First purchased a HERM200 TYTN by HTC off of eBay a few weeks ago. Last week finally got around to using it as a phone and ran into a ton of difficulties that I thought were hardware issues. Couldn't properly flash an updated WM6 ROM - phone had TEST ONLY when first booting.
Flashed but I think I corrupted the phone on the initial flash. Did install HardSPL so I got it back.
Was getting NO GSM errors and assumed the radio was bad. Tried a reflash and it basically got stuck at about 20%. Tried just a radio and it did flash.
Today charged the phone - cleared out the memory with MTTY.exe checked for bad blocks and found none.
Attempted a flash with the standard release HTC for Hermes WM6. To my surprise it flashed fully without any errors and no real freezing except for a small bit during the GSM part.
Power cycled a few times and haven't had no GSM yet.
QUESTION:
Is there a bug with the DPad keys? When pressing down key it works for a while in TODAY screen then stops. Can't press any of the softkeys at this point. Can start it again by using scroll wheel or putting in standby and resuming.
Tried in EXCEL and keys work repeatedly. In PROGRAM menu will also stop.
Is this a hardware problem or is this a know software problem.
I think you found WHY they sold it on ebay.... Sounds like a problem with the directional board. You may experience the dreaded whitescreen too as the LCD is processed through the d-pad board. Could be 1 of a heap of different reasons. Theres a whole thread related to these problems. Use search to find, they might help you fix the problem...
Cheers...

Ive read everything and tried everything but screen is white after upgrading ROM

Hello Everyone,
I bought a verizon Titan with a kitchen ROM with WM 6.1. Yesterday I decided to try to cook one myself with WM 6.5. Everything was fine except ehe "start" button stopped working after some minutes. I cooked another opne with less programs. Then I thought it would be a good idea to use the Spbbackup I had to try to get some programs back. It told me that there has been a ROM update I clicked ok and it did its thing.
I had problems with that ROM so tried one that was in one called WM6.5Beta with WM 6.5 after that it boots, then I get a WM6.5 green screen and then the screen goes white. I though it was the Radio so I updated to the 3.42.5. No change, I tried the exitbootloader program no change. I tried to get another kitchen ROM into the Titan but the pc does not detect the Tytan. Ive tried everything I even used the las Sprint Stock Rom via Sdcard and it got to the Htc screen "no Radio". I installed the 3.42.5 Radio and I got to the WM6.5 green screen again and then it turns white.
The weird thing is that if I press the Powerbuton i get the "Power will be turned off and you may lose.." you know the usual. but I can not selkect either yes or no, the screen freezes and turns black. Another wird thing is that all the screens I see when I boot are the one I installed in my last kitchen ROM. I have tried millions hard resets, softresets, removing battery... I am really lost and I need my phone back!! Did I brick my phone? I can put new Roms and Radio through sd card method but this new ROMs dont seem to take effect since I always get the same screens...
Any help will be appreciated.
oh also If I slide the keyboard there is this "chimes" sound. So I guess a ROM is actually active but the screen is white and nothing else works...
The Flex Cable is going bad. Its the wiring so the screen can slide in and out. It can take abuse and go bad over time. Easy replace.

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