FIXING 2.5mm TO 3.5mm CONVERTER OR MAKING UR OWN - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories

hi guys here is a way to fix ur converter.
1. open ur Converter from 3.5mm side.
2. desloder all wires coming from 2.5mm side.
3. take a multimeter or continuity tester.
4. if multi meter, put it on diode testing mode.
5. hold one wire at a time and test it via multimeter(by connceting one end of mutimeter at 2.5mm connector and one end at wire)
6. note the colour and the corresponding connection on 2.5mm jack(where the multimeter beeps and confirm the continuity).
7. Do this for all 4 wires.
8. now u know that which wire is connected from which ponit(connection) of 2.5mm jack.
9. out of 4 wires 2 are for stereo sound, one is common and another one is for mic.
10. Here on my BA the wiring pattern for 2.5mm is 1st is mic, second is spkr, third is spkr, and fourth is common.(starting from silver/golden side see screen shot) as u hv noted the color and conncetion at jack.now u can identify which colour wire on ur 2.5mm jack respond to mic, spkrs and common.
11. Now on ur 3.5 mm jack side u have a mic a button and 3.5mm jack.
12. Button is for attending calls it has 4 conneting points.
13. connect the mic with 2 connecting points points of button (at similer side).
14. connect the another 2 points of button one with common wire(of 2.5mm) and and another with mic wire of 2.5mm. (step 8 helps u here)
15. Now on 3.5 mm jack u have three connections one for left channel, second for right channel and one is common for both.u can identify the common easily as in all 3.5 mm jack the last and larger conection is always for common.
16. connect either left or right connection of 3.5 mm jack with one of the spkr wire coming from 2.5mm jack.
17. do step 16 for another wire for remaining spkr.
18. connect the common of 3.5mm jack with the common of 2.5mm jack(which is one the button).
19. now test ur handsfree.
Precautions and trouble shooting.
1. Remove the enamel insulation from wires porpely else they will not work.For removing, either use some solvent or burn them slightly from edge.
2. Do not short the connections.
3. if ur able to attend the call but ur voice is not going to other side inter change the comnnection on mic cause mic contains a diode which remains in forward bias in only one direction of current. so interchanging of wire will give u opposite polarity which allow the forward and reverse bias in proper direction.

AWESOME!
WOW MAN!
cool guide, thx man! i'll try that as soon as possible...
cheers,krz

Nice!
Good!

thank you! I\ll try to DIY this for my toshiba G900, as I lost the adapter. I'll use a 2.5 mm jack from a nokia headset and a 3.5 mm socket

Great post! Nice walk-through.
Respect

Tnx man, this helped me alot!

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DIY Car kit for Blueangel? Possibly?

For those of you who have grounded pin 19 to get sound out via bottom connector, have you seen this site which sells proper car kits for the blueangel
http://www.thb.de/index.html?lang=en
Note the bit at the bottom of the MDAIII car kit about wavedev.dll, could this be the solution to all sound out via bottom connector?
could someone who has already got pin 19 wired up test this before i bastadise my cradle with wiring of XDA II
Audio out at bottom connector
Hi,
I have just finished my work.
I have grounded pin 19 via 10K resistor and then installed wavedev.dll from the site http://www.thb.de
Now it works well. Internal mic and audio are switched to pins 1 (mic) and 3,4 (audio). I have connected the MDA III via bottom connector to my motorcycle intercom and now I can hear all instructions of my navigate software as well I can telefone with my helmet on.
I had tried it before without THBs wavedev.dll and it was only possible to use the telefone function. MP3s and navigate instructions couldn't been heard.
greetings bombur
So are the pin outs the same as the XDAII? if not could you please provide the full pin out, including power and ground
Hi,
yes, the pin layout seems to be the same as XDAII, MDAII (himalaya).
I have been fooling around with this for months now... to what did you ground pin19?
Thanks,
Dutch
I groudeed it via 10 resitor to pins 16,17,18.
But without the wavedev.dll from http://www.thb-service.de/download/MDAIII/Wavedev.dll there is no chance to get audio output from mediaplayer ond so on.
regards
Cheers! I've downloaded the .dll as well. Nice finding!
Did you do anything with PIN5 (ANALOG GND)?
Thanks,
Dutch
I connected it with audio-
Pins 3 and 4 are audi+
regards
I've tryed using this wavedev.dll to see if i've got any luck sending audio (mediaplayer. tom tom etc) to my bluetooth headset but doesn't work... Just tought it could be something with routing the audio...
I've tryed using this wavedev.dll to see if i've got any luck sending audio (mediaplayer. tom tom etc) to my bluetooth headset but doesn't work... Just tought it could be something with routing the audio...
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I have come across a thread which described a registry hack to output tomtom GPS Sounds etc to a bluetooth headset, but i cannot find it again, but this thread in another forum backs my thinking up http://www.mtekk.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?p=24624 you should root around the google, it is only on one of three sites, this one, MoDaCo or Mtekk but i know its possible at least
Can you make me one?
I have a PPC6600 (PDA2k, XDAIIs, etc.) and I have a couple questions...
When you unhook the bottom connector from your phone, does the audio go back to the internal speaker and microphone?
Also, when the bottom connector is plugged in, what takes precedence, your bluetooth headset or the bottom connector's audio?
Last, if I paid you could you make me a cable that would have the connector that would feed to :
3.5mm Microphone Plug
3.5mm Stereo Audio Plug
Radio Mute Plug (pin 12 supposedly?)
Power?
My vehicle's radio supports RCA feeds and Radio Mutes, and I would LOVE to get this hooked up...
Lastly, is it possible to pipe out video through the connector? (Just thinking about the XDAII backpack...)
Thanks,
Ryan
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Hi rleestma,
>When you unhook the bottom connector from your phone, does the audio go back to the internal speaker and microphone? <
Yes internal speeker and mic are turned on when the connector is unhooked.
>Also, when the bottom connector is plugged in, what takes precedence, your bluetooth headset or the bottom connector's audio? <
Bluetooth headset is preferred, the external speeker works but microfone is only used from bluetooth headset.
>Last, if I paid you could you make me a cable that would have the connector that would feed to :
3.5mm Microphone Plug
3.5mm Stereo Audio Plug
Radio Mute Plug (pin 12 supposedly?)
Power? <
The answer is no. I'm glad, that my connector works. But until this I had disturbed 3 connectors because of my very small experiences in soldering.
I think that every TV or radio store could help you when you tell them the pin layout and how to groud the pin 19.
>Lastly, is it possible to pipe out video through the connector? (Just thinking about the XDA II backpack...)<
I don't have any idea how video can be piped out through the connector.
regards
Hans-Dieter
Thank you... Maybe a few more quesitons?
Thanks for the info!
Perhaps a few more questions then?
Where did you find these parts?
1. XDAIII connector
2. Wire to solder in connector
Secondly, do you have some type of diagram layout and parts list for resistors, power, etc.?
I also have very little experience doing this type of thing, but this is EXACTLY what I need for my little project...
Thank you for your help in advance!
Ryan
Questions on Schematic
Hey there...
when grounding the Car_ON (pin 19) through a 10k resistor, which pin did you ground it to? Was it 15, 16, or 17? The reason I ask is that it seems that incoming power ground needs to be on 15, 17, and 18, so does that mean that the CAR_ON needs to be sent to pin 16?
See what I mean here...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors
Thanks,
Ryan
Hi,
I bought this connector http://www.haid-services.de/pi-680482093.htm?categoryId=49 .
The Cable and the resistor I got in a tv shop.
One pole of the resitor you have to solder to pin 19 and the other pole must be soldered to pin 16, 17 and 18.
Don't use pin 15 for ground from the car charger. It's only used for USB cable.
regards
Yes, I saw that you soldered pin 19 to pins 16, 17, and 18, but the problem is that the positive lead ties into 19, 21, and 22...
So, with that being said, i have two questions... Did you tie power into your setup? If so, then...
1. Do I tie in the positive lead from the car charger into pin 19 at all because it's going to be grounded out?
2. Do I tie in the negative lead from the car charger into all the pins, or only the ones that aren't being tied back into 19?
If you have an example that you used the worked that would be STUPENDOUS... I feel like I just need to have this quesiton answered and I'll be good to go...
Ryan
Can I use this connector, or do I need to use the other one from you?
http://store.yahoo.com/gomadic-new/ipconplug38s.html
Again, if you used power, can you let me know what pins you tied into the positive and negative? maybe a diagram?
Ry
Hi rleestma,
have a look at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors
There you can see that pins 20,21,22 are power+ and pins 16,17,18 are ground. Now connect now solder a 10k resitor between pin 19 and (16,17,18) and it should work.
But only if you download the wavedev.dll from www.thb.de
regards
wiring question
last question...
when you were wiring yours up, did you jump 19 right at the connector or did you run everything back to the opposite end of the cable and then run the 10k resistor?
Also, did you tie in the car charger's negative and all the negative pins together at the other end of the cable, or did you run one negative wire to the connector and then split it there? same for the positive...
thanks!
ryan
Hi,
the resistant fits in the connector, so there is no need to use an extra wire to connect it outside to the ground.
I connected the the pins together with solder in the connector.
regards

9100 2.5 audio pin out

whether I am "search" disabled or there is no info about audio 2.5 jack pin outs.
will somebody give a link or provide connection diagram for mic, answer/mute button and audio outputs?
my aim is to make my own cable to connect the pda to car stereo to listen mp3s and also place a remote mic and switch somewhere in the car.
its done!
thanks a lot to whom gave me info about this topic. Here is what I have done today;
I bought an after market 2,5mm stereo headphones with mic and switch. it was 5 YTL equvalent around $3,5. I had the chance to try it with my qtek9100, but there was very poor sound level and quality, I didnt even try the mic. Actually I bought it just to get one 2.5mm 4 conductor jack.
I tried to make a drawing how the connections were, marked as "before". It is so wierd wiring that I have no idea which kind of device uses this kind of connection.
After modification, as you will see, instead of soldering the existing ear pieces, I soldered a female 3,5mm jack, so that I can connect whether a stereo headphones to use it as hands free or a casette adapter to use with car stereo and listen to mp3s(which in this case, when I receive or make a call, it will mute the music and give other sides voice to car speakers). Ive tested both possibilities and it works quite fine.
I hope this helps to ones that are willing to make this kind of adapter themselves.
Re: its done!
Thank U for contribution!
canstb said:
Ive tested both possibilities and it works quite fine.
I hope this helps to ones that are willing to make this kind of adapter themselves.
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I want to give a more precise definition to jack pinouts.
AFAIK pin 4 - left channel, 3 - right. So U have reversed stereo sound or wrong picture female connector.

Jack 3,5mm with Microphone ?

Is it possible to use a 3,5mm jack like shown here:
http://www.4winmobile.com/tutorial-replace-hermes-headset-connector-with-35mm-socket-vt3146.html
and KEEP the Microphone ?
this way I could plug a headphone with a microphone in my female jack, and use it to call someone as well as listen to music.
he's already keeping the microphone.... see on the left of the last pic....
Yes, you're right.
So I am planning to that, but instead of cutting the cable to put a female jack, I am going to open the microphone box and connect my cable directly on the electronic board.
Why? because I want to have a nice mini jack female, and not a ugly big female connector.

Hermes Handsfree Modifications to 3.5 mm

Hi
I've modified my Orginal handsfree to give a 3.5 mm Stereo socket. This is the procedure:
1. Open volume control & mic holder from edges.
2. You'll find four wires to earphone on out terminal soldered to PCB.
duly marked R & L on sides and two common in the middle.
3. Remove the earphone wires. Fix these wires to a standard 3.5 mm Stereo Plug.
4. next get a cheap 2.5 mm to 3.5 mm converter which is available in India at no more than Rs.70.00.
5. We require 3.5 mm socket with housing from this converter. Take out the converter remove all connections.
6. Take a piece of 4 wire ribbon wire.
7. Connect as per drawing attached. 2 wires to middle terminal on original
housing --- to common terminal in 3.5 mm socket
one to L other to R terminal on main housing and to L & R terminal
on converter
Your unit is ready.
I'm using in with Sandisk in-ear plugs stereo headphone kit and works
fine . Mic also works so you can talk on phone and use it to listen music also.
Dinesh

G1 Cradle with headphone jack

I cant find a single G1 cradle with a 3.5mm headphone jack anywhere. Does anybody know of one?
http://www.techsunny.com/3235481/techsunny-gp-usb-cradle-charger.html
or
http://www.fommy.com/view-full-page.asp?divid=T-Mobile&model=T-Mobile+G1&skuno=82000
You can also make one with some simple soldering skills and a pair of motorola s9 bluetooth headphones. I made one, it dosn't look the prettiest but you could make it nicer. I just did it quick.
Needed supplies:
Project Box (radio shack)
Wire
Solder
1/8" stereo Jack (radio shack)
Motorola s9 bluetooth headset (www.amazon.com)
Benefits of bluetooth dock over regular dock:
You can listen to music with or without the phone on the dock, and you can also charge and sync at the same time (which as far as I know with the regular docks you cannot play music and sync at the same time).
Cons: the bluetooth adaptor has to be charged and cannot charge and play at the same time.
How I made it:
Step 1:
Heat the plastic of the project box with a torch. (Be very careful with these steps, I am not responsible for damage to your phone.)
Step 2: Place tin foil over bottom of the phone.
Step 3: Then press phone with foil into hot plastic to make the imprint for your phone to sit into.
Step 4: drill hole for usb cable into bottom of imprint.
Step 5: Disassemble motorola s9s and solder 1/8" stereo jack in place of the headphone speakers.
Step 6: Mount s9 bluetooth part to the back of the box and the buttons to the front.
If you need more detail let me know. I didn't have much time to write this.
Gotta love the new radio playing through the old 1939
I was actually thinking I might just build something myself. This definitly gives me some ideas, thanks. Looks cool btw.

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