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I've made an apparently successful upgrade of the rom and radio stuff but I'm missing two programs. The promised upgrade of o2's Active ui is non-existant as is the Multimedia Messaging composer. :shock:
Anyone had similar problems? Anyone know what I can do to get hold of them?
thanks
I think somebody said it appears after another reset.
bit vague
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I think somebody said it appears after another reset.
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ok, anybody going to firm this up - kind of vague really and a bit of a pain if it doesn't really do the job
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I had this problem as well but it all started working OK again after I'd hard reset for the third time!
same for me, but working fine now. Just do another hard reset.
hard reset worked
how bizzarre. it does the job alright.
bit strange but who cares
- and all the other bits and pieces are working properly now like the bluetooth com ports
thanks for the tip
But doesn't a hard reset involve a full restore from your PC ... and doesn't that take about an hour :-(
After discussing why the BT headsets won't work properly, the O2 people suggested I upgrade the ROM. I had assumed that since I only bought the XDA2 from them 3 weeks ago that the ROM would be up to date. But it seems to be 1.03.00 USA and the radio version seems well behind. tch tch ! My question though is .... if I do a full back up via active sync then do the ROM upgrade, and a hard reset as instructed. Can I then restore everything from my PC and all the programmes and data will work OK. and a secondary question - does this work for the SD card too, or should I simply remove it and reinsert it once the upgrade is complete?
Mike
A hard reset is done by holding down the power button whilst inserting stylus into reset slot. It reboots immeddiately just like a soft reset, but the XDA is set back to factory default settings (losing all your data).
You can't restore a backup from one ROM to another. You will have to re-install all your new apps. If you've only got data on your SD card it won't matter, but if you've installed apps to it, you'll have to re-install them for them to work properly.
All your contacts should be backed up to outlook using active sync before you upgrade, then just dock the XDA with upgraded ROM and all your contacts should be restored from your PC.
....... but I thought the backup/restore function within activesync (and which takes about an hour first time you use it) backed up all system files and program apps that you had installed, so that it's relatively painless after a hard reset and restore.
..... now I am confused :-(
Mike
mikesands said:
....... but I thought the backup/restore function within activesync (and which takes about an hour first time you use it) backed up all system files and program apps that you had installed, so that it's relatively painless after a hard reset and restore.
..... now I am confused :-(
Mike
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alright clever cloggs, I haven't experimented with that to be honest. the question is - what's so special about a second hard reset? why can't it just be ok the first time
and incidentally - if you were confused you should have used :? - :lol:
I genuinely am confused .... and you ain't necessarily wrong even if you haven't tried the restore via activesync. Other posters on other forums and various faqs seem to indicate that whilst you can get the contacts, appointments etc to restore after the ROM upgrade, you then have to re-install each program application manually. Or rather just the apps you've bought or downloaded rather than the ones that are inbuilt.
If true, it seems a complete pain, and I think I will just download the Bluetooth toolkit rather than the ROM upgrade.
..... what's the emoticon for 'decisive'?
Regards,
Mike
Hi guys. Been away for a while and now actually bought an xda 2. I have a few problems and hopefully someone can help.
My xda came with rom 1.72.181 with blackberry. Not being bothered about blackberry I downloaded (after a full backup) and installed 1.72.187. I didn't realise that a full restore from my backup would put the software back to 1.72.181, so had to hard reset and reinstall everything again. Both are backed up now so I can swap as and when I feel like it between 181 and 187. Both have a full setup of all my software, but I thought a restore would only put the software back, not the os and rom also, (like with my xda1). Anyone know how to reinstall software without overwriting the rom software version?
Next problem. What is the latest rom available on here (links please if known), and will updating it mean yet another full reinstall of all software.
Also, I have an occasional (too often though) problem where the touch screen stops working and the only way to get it back is to reboot. Anyone know what might be causing this. I can use the buttons and turn it on and off, but the touchscreen does nothing until I reboot. It happens with both roms, but I don't think its hardware related as the soft reset makes everything fine again.
I have removed just about everything from startup including ia caller id and all flashman stuff. I'm not even using it as a phone much because I mainly wanted it as a pda, but I have a payg sim in it for cross network calls (saves on my o2 bill). So mostly, the phone is turned off.
Any help you clever people can give would be much appreciated, (no suggestions involving hammers please). Oh yes, its about 3 weeks old as of this post date so not worn out yet. Lastly, there's no passwords set or any security setting that could be causing it as everything is on default.
Please help a desperate man.
TIA
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Your touch screen should work out of the box. If it's not working out of the box, then you may have a hardware conflict issue.
I don't know what do you use for backup, but a full restore usually restores the registry and filesystem.
For a different version ROM, the usual advice is to install your software from scratch again.
If you are handy with the registry, what you can do is:
(a) export the registry of your own ROM, cut & paste the portion that contains the registry settings for your installed software, usually under HKLM\SOFTWARE\...
(b) use your ActiveSync to reinstall the software again in your new ROM
(c) import the HKLM\SOFTWARE\.. registry that you have saved earlier.
If you are handy with OSP WinCAB Mgr, you can create a CAB file for this and makes your restoration easlier.
Have you fitted a scree protector to the phone, this can sometimes cause problems with the touch screen if the protector is too close to or tucked under the edge of the cover, this can be intermittent also.
Re: Help Please
Thanks for the interest.
I have done a full reinstall with both rom versions, so that problem is gone. Just wondered if there was any way to put the software back after a rom upgrade without a full reinstall of everything.
As for the screen problem. Like I said, I don't think it's hardware related as it s all fine after a soft reset. Hardware would usually mean that it still won't work after rebooting. It's like whatever software controlling the touch feature throws a wobbler and locks me out, but the buttons all work as normal when it happens. I'll list the software thats installed and if you're aware of any known conflicts, please tell me in a reply.
Calligrapher, Phatpad, Launcher (today plugin), Tascal regedit, Frequency tuner, SPB Fullscreen keyboard, Pocket Mechanic (1.49), and Tomtom 3.
Any ideas to help this very confused man.
More help please.
I have removed calligrapher and it seems to have stopped locking up. Problem now is what do I do about it.
Anyone know how to cure this. The program is no good if it has problems with 2003, (and I have tried both drivers, default and calligrapher) without success. Now I'm stuck.
Any suggestions.
A very frustrated man.
Calligrapher 7.4, For you're information
I have removed calligrapher 7.4 and installed version 7.2. Guess what, no freezes. I informed phatware support of this and the response was what else do I have installed. They don't seem to accept that the latest version is the cause of the problem. It must be something else. Probably a today plugin????.
I then installed version 7.3. No lockups. Put 7.4 back in, back to square 1 with the locking up. It seems that anything before 7.4 is ok. I have told phatware support of this, but they still don't accept that 7.4 is the problem, instead putting the blame on anything else but version 7.4.
OK, here's my question. Am I losing it, or would it be safe to assume that (seeing as the others work) calligrapher 7.4 has a problem. A simple deduction watson, given the overwhelming evidence. Remember that I also have an xda1 and its the same story on that too.
Sorry phatware, but I'm gonna stay with my other stuff and look at the alternative's to calligrapher until I can try another (later) version that works with my machines.
One sale lost I think. Anyone else having similar problems.
Hi,
My Atom Exec is usually freeze and then some icon has changed to window icon when I try to installed application/copied file that have big size (> 5 Mb). Alert not found will show, if I taped it.
So I always do soft reset to get normal, but application/files are failed to get installed/copied. I've tried to upgrade my ROM into new ROM. I've downloaded from http://www.seeo2.com but I think it no signficantly changed. freeze is usually happened. again and again.
Does anyone can help me to fix my gadget problem?
What should I've done?
Should I upgrade my ROM to WM6 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352221 or another way to fix it.
regards.
What software u loaded after flashing the new ROM from O2, name them. Looks to me some third party software is the cause of the problem. Hard reset your phone and then only load O2's software and not any third party software. Observe for a day or two and then load the other software one by one each day and u will get the bugger.
hernk said:
Hi,
My Atom Exec is usually freeze and then some icon has changed to window icon when I try to installed application/copied file that have big size (> 5 Mb). Alert not found will show, if I taped it.
regards.
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You have just joined the forum and this is your first question. AtomExec has been out for a long time. Do you get a used machine or new one.
Yes, AtomExec does freeze quite a bit but not as much as you describe. In fact all WinCE machine freezes once a while even its big brother WinXP.
Make sure you are not suffer from hardware problem first and read this forum very carefully. It will save you a lot of time and money. Because no one in this forum charge you money and give you guarantee for what you did. If that is the only phone that you have, be extra careful.
First do a hard reset of your machine. Install very few and simple things in it. If it still freezes often then you may have a bad phone unless your Mobile 5 ROM was modified by somebody.
software
thanks for suggestions,
This is my new atome exec. After I flush my ROM, I've installed O2 softwares like O2 wallet, O2 plus, O2 and no 3rd party but sometime window icon still show when I'm try to install application which >2Mb of size.
what should I do to fix it?
Sometimes the installation of large progs take little more time, suggest wait and see how much time it take to install and disappearance of Window Icon. Also check that if u install the program in the built in memor is it faster or not. If that is faster then it means ur memory card is of the slow type.
hernk said:
thanks for suggestions,
This is my new atome exec. After I flush my ROM, I've installed O2 softwares like O2 wallet, O2 plus, O2 and no 3rd party but sometime window icon still show when I'm try to install application which >2Mb of size.
what should I do to fix it?
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Do you have installed softwares into sdcard 2gb?
try in memory
abusalza said:
Do you have installed softwares into sdcard 2gb?
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No, I try to install all application into internal memory
ok, since this problem is getting seriously troubling, i decided to open up a new thread for it.
i have tried two different wm5 roms, three different wm6 roms, three different sd cards, four different radio roms, two different ipl and two different spl versions. no luck so far. and this is the story in detail:
EVERY program icon in the pull down start menu referring to prgrams installed to the memory card disappears/turns into a white box after EVERY soft reset. if i then switch off phone fuctionality through the commanager, they SUDDENLY re-appear correctly. when i activate the phone again, they STAY THAT WAY! but after the next soft reset, they are all white again.
the funny thing is that it really only concerns icons with reference to the storage card and ONLY the start menu section, NOT(!) the "recent programs" section. there they remain in tact after soft reset.
so it looks as if this is some problem between the radio and the storage card slot (or drivers) during the boot phase.
has anybody encountered this problem, too? is there any solution? i also contacted o2 customer service which told me they would try to reproduce this issue on their machines, and if they could not confirm it, they would deal with it as technical flaw - hopefully meaning that they would replace my device.
so, any suggestions, mates??
The solutions below work fine in my case. You might like to give it a try if it is a real problem for you.
My earlier solution:
1. run clauncher (you can download it practically everywhere)
2. only activate clauncher (edited: tray launcher) and (optional) type in NO path for any application
3. find and run any software such as SKTools enable to set the order of applications in the StartUp folder
4. set clauncher.lnk(edited: tray launcher) as the first in order
5. soft-reset
Or, try the alternative to solve icon-missing problem
My present solution:
simply using quickmenu in lieu of WM menu (again, it's available everywhere)
Good luck!
iiiox said:
The solutions below work fine in my case. You might like to give it a try if it is a real problem for you.
My earlier solution:
1. run clauncher (you can download it practically everywhere)
2. only activate clauncher and (optional) type in NO path for any application
3. find and run any software such as SKTools enable to set the order of applications in the StartUp folder
4. set clauncher.lnk as the first in order
5. soft-reset
Or, try the alternative to solve icon-missing problem
My present solution:
simply using quickmenu in lieu of WM menu (again, it's available everywhere)
Good luck!
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thanks. i will give it a try later. but do you imply that you have the very same problem? am i not alone??
chriskay said:
thanks. i will give it a try later. but do you imply that you have the very same problem? am i not alone??
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isn't it a common issue....,a nuisance ^^?? it happens all over wm2003, wm5, wm6....
actually you don't need to do anything except to "re-click" any item of menu on the setting page to get the icons back, if you decide not to rely on the third party applications.
BTW, if you don't really appreciate Quickmenu, an additional exe, you might like to wait for this >>> http://www.dotfred.net/FdcStartMenu.htm. However, my wild guess is this one might have the very same problem since it doesn't change the order of all the services....
iiiox said:
isn't it a common issue ^^?? it happens all over wm2003, wm5, wm6....
actually you don't need to do anything except to "re-click" any item of menu on the setting page to get the icons back, if you decide not to rely on the third party applications.
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wow! is it really that common?? i haven't noticed that? never ran into this problem before. but good to know. so i won't need to tease my service provider...
Hi all - first post on xda - please be gentle ;-)
Can anyone suggest what may be the most stable setup on the HD2? the constant freezing is starting to make the phone unusable for me as I use it for work and before I move to something else I thought I'd ask some advice on a better setup.
I have had WM machines (pocket PC) for a long while mainly Ipaq and my last 4150 worked for years without a hitch - couple of screen taps and any info I needed was there quickly mainly excel spread sheets e-mails and schedule, the thing never missed a beat in years. The HD2 seemed the ideal phone replacement.
I have not gone mad with the phone it is pretty stock with a couple of usable mods (CHT and editor etc) every day or so, maybe twice a day I press the on button to bring up the lock screen and it freezes - always when I need it most - it freezes in a particular way ie I can see the taskbar at the top, MENU and PHONE on the bottom (which "react" when pressed but do not bring up the function) and blank screen in between - it needs a soft reset - I have installed the endkey long press which works but this always happens when I need the information quickly and waiting for it to reboot is not quick enough
I would dearly miss co0kies home tab and the couple of mods but if a standard ROM is the best so be it (was going to try the vodafone 1.72 ROM) - or is there a real stripped down ROM that is simple and stable removing all the baggage on the standard ROM. I've never done it but I'm not averse to having a go at cooking a ROM if it will get me what I need
I use all the "business" type functions - dont need twitter/facebook/footprints etc would really use the documents Tab
ROM 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE
Radio 2.06.51.07
Manila 2.5.19211619.0
Co0kies home tab 1.8.5
CHT editor 1.8.5.1
Resco Registry add in
Resco explorer
Skype
SPB Backup
Avian waves BattlineSvc
Microsoft .NET CF 3.5
Windows marketplace
Each time it locks up I'm getting fed up of friends/colleagues swiping their Iphones at me going "look! mine doesn't do that"
I like the HD2 I'd like to be able to say "but yours doesn't do all this" with all the extra capabilities - instead I seem to be always rebooting - waiting for sense to launch
I don't want to lose the HD2 and its capabilities but If I cant get it to be a bit more stable the Desire is looking tempting or even (wash my mouth out with soap) an Iphone?
Any thoughts or suggestions would be really appreciated
My hd2 became unstable when i had cookies home tab, its been solid as a rock since I uninstalled it, give it a go, I don't miss it anyway.
oh, and if they want proof, my friend has had the same locking up issues on 6 replacement iphones. it crawls to a halt then refuses to react, so he has to wait until the battery goes flat as he can't reset it...
You might want to try moving up to the 1.72 wwe rom and try that with and without cht, perhaps even try rolling back to an older version of cht.
I used to suffer the lockscreen freezing on the stock 1.66 rom.
I cant remember if it persisted after moving to the 1.72 im afraid, I dont think it did though.....
Does it only freeze when using the cht lockscreens?
HardSPL your phone and flash-
http://www.vbnfiles.com/xda/g_lewarne/CleanEx/CleanEX%20Core655%203.50.7z
CHT works fine along with anything else I have thrown at the ROM!
Stable as a rock and is an excellent dive board into Android as well.
For extra "cut down" disable sense and run Resco today plug-in as your home screen.
I used to flash numerous times a week, but, I haven't changed a thing since 16th Aug and that's a record.
what version of CHT are you using as i had to revert back to v1.7 due to the latest one giving me problems...i would suggest to upgrade your Rom to 1.72 start fresh again and install all necessary apps you need one by one that way you can analyse if certain apps are conflicting causing the frezzing problem that you have ....if that doesnt work try a custom rom.
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My hd2 became unstable when i had cookies home tab, its been solid as a rock since I uninstalled it, give it a go, I don't miss it anyway.
oh, and if they want proof, my friend has had the same locking up issues on 6 replacement iphones. it crawls to a halt then refuses to react, so he has to wait until the battery goes flat as he can't reset it...
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On the iPhone tell him to hold the sleep button + the home button for a few seconds... That should do the trick.
i had the exactly same issue on my second hd2 and had my phone sent in (also vibracall was sounding abnormally), i should get it back this week. i hope CHT works then, my first hd2 never had problems like that....
Thanks indeed for the info I did have a sneaky suspicion that CHT may be a problem, I will try the stock 1.72 and maybe try a few things one at a time see if it helps thanks again
ive had problkems that sound like that, the lockscreen disapears and you can see the screen you have behind, except you still have to slide to unluck . with the vbn rom my lockscreen problems dispaeared complelty. it still seemed to suffer from memory issues but for the most part it was stable.
i hardly use windows mobile anymore, as android is way more fun, and it never complains about not having anough memory
I would suggest couple of things:
- make sure, that all the additional icons (if any) and wallpapers used are in phone memory, i.e. not on sd card.
- using bsb tweaks You can disable wm 6.5 lockscreen and give s2u2 a try