I have searched the forum but could not get the exact answer I am looking? so here it is:
I have SPB Backup and I am using Scap's 3.57c ROM and I wish to upgrade to Scap's 4.00 Final Version but - Do I need to re-install all the software and games and do all the setting again... or will all my software be intact after restoring the backup?
Best reinstall from scratch.
WB
If you had your apps & games installed on SD then you might be lucky since mostly only shortcuts and a few registry keys will have to be restored - if you have nothing to lose: give it a try! In worst case you might have to hard reset your device but that shouldn't be a big deal either after you 'just reflashed' it anyway!
Most application should work, some might require a reinstallation, however, I have to agree with wacky.banana: BEST WAY IS TO REINSTALL ALL APPS AGAIN!
yeah reinstall from scratch would be simplest. a couple of pointers I've followed personally
1) I typically install non-system critical components to SD, that way I can retain my high scores and configuration settings with a simple move and over-write after the
2) I install programs mainly from my windows pc through installables (as opposed to cabs or over the air installs) This way, once I upgrade instead of doing everything one by one and having to hang on to the cabs etc...I can just go through activesyncs add/remove checkboxes and do them all at once. Just saves a few strokes here and there.
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Hey guys, I have just upgraded my rom and found a couple of downfalls with the new version.
1) the extended rom tools to unhide and unlock no longer work - extended Rom now seems inaccessable
2) the internal memory area called 'Storeage' has disappeared also, leaving me with 16k less memory than I had before the upgrade!!
Any ideas how we can get these back??
I don't think it is to do with the ROM upgrade specifically.
Have you installed any other software?
I had this a couple of times a while back whilst I was experimenting with different ROMs and BT stacks, doing backups and restoring, etc.
Have you tried a hard reset?
Also, look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10473 where other people had same problem.
Thanks for the info; your'e right:
I checked the other thread you mentioned, and have given it a go...
If you perform a hard reset my device with the new rom has the storeage available and the extended rom unlock tools work again. Restoring a backup and they both disappear.
Looks like I am going to have to rebuild my system :-(
I suspect that restoring an old backup replaces lots of windows related files and registry settings. I tried to install the fonix voicedial from the ext rom post-restoring and it claimed i had the wrong ROM version!
So yes, a rebuild is necessary
Certainly seems that way. Oh well, good luck!
Running new upgrade over unofficial upgrade
Just being lazy here - can you just do a hard reset and run the new 02 update over the 1.72.126 ver. as it says wrong version when you attempt to run it from after a normal reset (incorrect language error)?
Cheers,
Ste G.
As a general rule it is never a good idea restoring a backup over a different ROM version - bit like restoring a W2K backup over an XP install. That said, the latest version of Sprite is supposed to be ROM upgrade safe.
I always use the opportunity to clean out all the crap by doing a full reload - bit like the twice yearly Windows rebuilds on my PC.
I'd like to flash Schap's recent rom with touchflo function,
but it's a bit annoying to install all other programs that I had installed,
especially I need to install bunch o' non-english programs.
I installed spb backup, as people posted, but I'm not sure if it's applicable when I install brand new ROM.
Do you guyz have specific way to install new ROM without installing skype, font, spb weather, TCPMP..... this that that yala yala,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but all at once with one click?
i can't see how you can use a back up on a new rom since the orginal install would be specific to that rom. i just keep a copy of all my cabs i use on the memory card.
Try SettingsSavior
I find that SettingsSaviour seems to be working relatively well for me. You place all of your CABs in one (or two) directories, and they will be installed.
Only downside is that you can't seemingly do an auto-installation to a Storage Card, but since I have enough storage space, I don't mind.
Here's a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308100&highlight=settingssavior
-- Joe
Sprite Backup can do ROM/Device upgrade backups. Experience varies - for some upgrades it works for other it does not.
Hi everyone. With all of these awesome new ROMs coming out I am constantly tempted(and often pull the trigger) to keep trying them out. I have been using Sprite Backup 6.1 which has a feature that saves device data for doing just this and is supposed to be able to do a device restore even with a new rom. I'm skeptical of this considering that many of these roms are built with OS's that are not yet released. Therefore, how can Sprite test the restore fully? The restore options are rom, device, safe, restore databases etc. Do you experienced rom testers/devs have any advice on the best way to painlessly migrate the Mogul to a new rom without installing all of your programs and doing all registry tweaks again etc? I want to try the new DCD 2.2 but I just spent the last 2 days reinstalling everything from my original gps rom to the 2.1 rom. Thanks again for all the help.
I believe the only way is to re-install everything. I think using Sprite merges all the files leaving more junk in your system. I keep upgrading just like you and manually install every file on every update. Its the cost of having your phone run up to date.
ouch, that is going to give me pause before going to dcd2.2. I guess I will wait a bit to rest up a bit since I stayed up until 3am this morning getting things tweaked with the new rom.
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Hi everyone. With all of these awesome new ROMs coming out I am constantly tempted(and often pull the trigger) to keep trying them out. I have been using Sprite Backup 6.1 which has a feature that saves device data for doing just this and is supposed to be able to do a device restore even with a new rom. I'm skeptical of this considering that many of these roms are built with OS's that are not yet released. Therefore, how can Sprite test the restore fully? The restore options are rom, device, safe, restore databases etc. Do you experienced rom testers/devs have any advice on the best way to painlessly migrate the Mogul to a new rom without installing all of your programs and doing all registry tweaks again etc? I want to try the new DCD 2.2 but I just spent the last 2 days reinstalling everything from my original gps rom to the 2.1 rom. Thanks again for all the help.
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Wow -- really 2 days?
I have mine down to a science now. From the moment I start the upgrade to when I am finished is now 45min or less (my best has been 38).
I have created a doc that list step-by-step what I need to do next; therefore, eliminating the guess work and me trying to remember what's next.
Good Times!!!
I have a bunch of cabs on my storage card that I run. Then I put in my outlook server info and the phone is basically back to normal.
I have heard of the 2577 method on the SD card. I personally have not tried it. Apparrently you create a folder named 2577 on the storage card with the cab files and a autorun.exe file. (EDIT: The AutoRun shoudl be in the Stock ExtRom). This should be in the Stock ExtRom. I have read they use this when doing a lot of PPC for companies.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms832313.aspx
Hello all,
I'd like to have a fresh start with my Prophet. I was on Gullum's Touch version (one of them) and would like to try another one.
I suspect my PDA though is a bit messy with all the other stuff I tried at the same time.
What would be the best way to have a good clean start over?
Any recommended Rom?
Many thanks for your answers!
do a hard reset & read the new way of upgrading to wm6/6.1 & choose a rom...
Thanks for your reply.
Would that erase the previous installation or just overwrite?
As I said, I'd like to have something clean. If it does like any software reinstalled, then it's not going to be that clean.
Unless you confirm it does.
k0rand's wm6.1 is the fatsest and most stable ive ever used. It is clean but still functional.
I've been using it since launch and no intention of changing (I used to try out new roms every few weeks).
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k0rand's wm6.1 is the fatsest and most stable ive ever used. It is clean but still functional.
I've been using it since launch and no intention of changing (I used to try out new roms every few weeks).
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Thanks for your reply.
Would that erase the previous installation or just overwrite?
As I said, I'd like to have something clean. If it does like any software reinstalled, then it's not going to be that clean.
Unless you confirm it does.
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The memory of your PPC is a little different from the hard disk of your PC.
I'm not going into every technical detail, but you could picture it divided in seperate compartments. One of them is the OS-compartment. If you flash your PPC, the whole content is replaced, no file-by-file overwrite, so no previous software remains. This content is what we call "ROM". It is shielded from the rest of the memory and can't be altered by normal usage.
But there are more comparments on you device. An other one is called "Storage". This one you ca compare with your PC's hard drive (together with an optional SD-card). In most cases when you flash your PPC, it will be erased, but don't count on it. It is this part that is reformatted when you perform a hard reset. That's the reason it is recommended to do a hard rest after flashing: just to be sure all "ancient history" is eliminated.
Then there is what is called "extROM". This is a dedicated part is the memory that can be used (but not all cooks use it) to extend the ROM. It is a bit hybrid: it behaves as shielded ROM memory but under circumstances you can write and erase files stored in this part. It is often used to store customisation files that are installed automattically after a flash/hard reset. But some cooks use it as extra storage to save capacity in the normal memory.
Resume:
After a (re)flash of your device using the new RUU method, you may assume that your device is totally REwritten, not just OVERwritten. But to be sure you better perform a hard reset afterwards.
Many thanks rondol1 for your very comprehensive answer!
hi all need urgent advice as ive killed my hd2
i was fearful of upgrading to new rom from htc website (v-1.66...)
was using 1.48.405.2 (71294) wwe
I made sure i researched everything 1st. i downloaded trial of spb backup. installed to phone. did full backup, saved to sd card. closed all progs, phone & pc
opened rom update and followed instructions. update then finished, went through setup on phone.
all seemed fine. basic clock, time settings (few new features etc)
I then went to file explorer/storage card and opened spb backup file. clicked next throughout. device reset on its own and loaded with new rom number on startup.
Problem!!!!
have my background image up pictures seem to be back, as are messages. cab files ive installed are present but I cant access contacts and a few other features.
repeated messages are 'a problem has occured with cprog.exe' please tell microsoft blah blah!!!
Htc sense will not launch despite how hard i hit the screen.
Ive no signal at all and cant sync with my pc. i guess suggestions of a hard reset will follow this post but will i not be in the same boat as i will need to restore my settings etc from sd card and spb backup.
please help!!!
try to flash the rom again or try to use your old one.
if you dont wanna hear the word "hardreset" i dont tell it to you
DN41
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try to flash the rom again or try to use your old one.
if you dont wanna hear the word "hardreset" i dont tell it to you
DN41
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ok. will try
shouldprob mention that i got a strange message when trying to restore
'this device is different from one which this backup was made. please choose upgrade mode'
then a dropdown menu with
'normal mode'
'rom upgrade mode'
'device upgrade mode'
with a check box 'overwrite existing files' (this is checked)
seems strange but the message before states that the backup was created on an t-mob leo device.
something wrong here maybe???
yeah could be.
sorry mate, i'm not very knowledged about spb backup
DN41
sp backup has a "rom upgrade" option i'm guessing you usedthat? in which case that's the problem, because it really means upgrade of the same rom, whereas you have a totally new rom, so should use the individual settingsoption, and reinstall your programs manually.
(based on reading, i've never done it myself, nor used sp backup)
re flash your original rom, restore your backup and think again how and what you are backing up.
just tried a 'normal restore' as the description says restore to original device backup was made on.
phone has now turned on with everything the same as i left it but looking at the software description its gone back to the original rom 1.48.405.2
do i have to run the update again?
what the hell is going on with this phone!!!
no, the rom is the new rom, but thats a fine example of whats wrong.
It has restored the rom version info from your registry backup.
The rom version is not a problem, of course, it just says teh wwrong thing, but there are likely to be loads of reg settings that ARE a problem.
Basically, using backup software can be a pain, till you know its pitfalls. Thats why i dont bother. Contacts/calendar via outlook, and thats it. Everything else i setup manually myself. (Well, i dont cos by now i've made cabs for all my tweaks and what not, but tyou get the idea.)
This is one of the main reasons I don't backup Settings and Programs. I only back up my PIM, and sometimes even that plays up.
You are better off just syncing your phone with Outlook, hardreset, sync again to get your PIM information, and reinstalling your programs one by one.
I can tell you this I use SPB backup all the time, but ...
1.) Normal restore is only for restoring to the EXACT same ROM that you had on before ..
2.) ROM upgrade mode is only good for ROMs in the same series*
*ROM upgrade mode only works correctly on "upgraded" version of the same ROM you had on it , for example, in my case I use Energy ROM CHT 23569 JUL 1st, I make a backup, then upgrade to Energy ROM CHT 23569 JUL 16th, then ROM upgrade mode should work, but if you go say from a Stock TMO rom to a custom rom or a 21xxx series rom to a 23xxx series rom you will have "ISSUES".
If you plan on flashing ROMs often , you either need to learn to use something like XDA_UC, Sashimi, or Toms Autoinstall, and make frequent PIM backups ..
As well as keeping all your program cabs in a safe organized place so you can put them back on ...
I hope this helps you get it sorted ....