I just thought I'd warn people of this:
1) I got CoPilot 6 from T-Mobile UK with a 2 year traffic subscription. On upgrading to CoPilot 7 this no longer works, and ALK have said they will not give me a license key to make it work. I think this is pretty appalling. Their reasoning is that I bought the subscription from T-Mobile, not directly from them.
2) The Live part of the service does not work - it is not possible to login from the mobile. Also the screens are "corrupted" for setting wireless connection. See attached screenshot.
How can a product called CoPilot 7 Live not have been tested to see that the Live bit works!!!!!!! ALK acknowledge that it is a known problem, but had no target fix date.
It's a shame because it finally works on VGA displays (as opposed to their promises for CoPilot 6 which did not work at all well on VGA, particularly the Driver Safety view)
I have asked for a refund.
ALK have now offered me a half price upgrade to the Traffic subscription too.
It's not ideal, but it's a nice gesture from them.
Also I can't fault their customer support, who have been extremely responsive and unfailingly polite even when I was being a little rude because of my annoyance with the situation.
So I now have:
- VGA where this didn't really work well in CoPilot6
- Traffic which didn't work 100% in CoPilot6 - certain screens would lock the device up.
- On the downside I don't have access to Live functionality.
Two steps forward and one back is progress, and I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of the problem with Live eventually.
Hi cjwilber
What's your problem with Live?
I had problems with people not being able to track me online with older Betas but in the final Beta everything worked fine.
Confucious said:
Hi cjwilber
What's your problem with Live?
I had problems with people not being able to track me online with older Betas but in the final Beta everything worked fine.
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The problem is that it just doesn't log in. You don't actually get told it's failed to login, but when you go to look at the wireless settings you get the screen shown in the jpeg I attached rather than the one that is shown in ALK's "How-to" document.
How do you get to that screen? I can't replicate it at all!
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How do you get to that screen? I can't replicate it at all!
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I've been away all week and had uninstalled CoPilot ready to return. When I install again tomorrow, I'll explain exactly how I get to that screen.
cjwilber said:
I've been away all week and had uninstalled CoPilot ready to return. When I install again tomorrow, I'll explain exactly how I get to that screen.
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I can't get to that screen now! The only difference from when it wouldn't work is that I now have a traffic license enabled. For the record I tried several times previously, including full rebuild of ROM to get back to a clean base
ROM UPGRADE WIN MOBILE 5 TO 6
If planning to continue to use your copy of CoPilot 6 after upgrading your ROM please note the following:
You must deactivate CoPilot 6 before attempting to upgrade your ROM as detailed below. Unlike under Windows Mobile 5, CoPilot 6 will not automatically be installed when running Windows Mobile 6. You will need to set-up manually as detailed below. Once deactivated you will need to reactivate your CoPilot software.
CoPilot Live 6 Deactivation instructions before applying ROM update
1. Run CoPilot Live on the Pocket PC
2. Tap Menu > Options > Licensing
3. Select ""Deactivate"" and record the Deactivation Code
4. On your internet enabled Desktop computer, go to http://activate.alk.com/deactivate
5. Enter your CoPilot product key code (25 digits) and Deactivation Code (from the web site above in step 4) and click ""Submit""
CoPilot Live 6 Manual Activation instructions
On inserting the CoPilot quickstart SD card, CoPilot will not auto run to start installation on Windows Mobile 6 and you must follow the steps below to install.
Tap: Start > Program > File Explorer
Browse to the Storage Card
Tap on the ‘2577’ folder
And Select ‘Autorun’
CoPilot Live 6 Activation instructions
Your T-Mobile GPRS settings will be automatically installed when you upgrade the ROM which means you can activate your CoPilot license using your Mobile Web connection.
Ensure you have your T-Mobile SIM inserted into your device.
Start CoPilot - Start > Program > CoPilot
Enter your original CoPilot product key code (25 digits) when requested then tap ‘Next’.
Enter your email address and tap ‘Next’. (If you do not have an email address you can enter [email protected])
Your device will now connect to the internet and will start the ‘Automatic activation’ using your mobile web connection
Press ‘Finish’ and confirm the map region you wish to activate. Select ‘United Kingdom’ from the list and tap ‘OK’
Traffic problems
I'm now having problems with traffic subscription. It successfully connects and finds traffic, butu when selecting the option to avoid the traffic - kind of the point of the facility really - the program shows a map of where the traffic is, but with no way of exiting that map. See attachment.
I have an outstanding call with ALK since 30/11 about this, but so far they haven't responded. To be fair they usually respond far quicker than that, so we'll see what happens this week.
cjwilber said:
I'm now having problems with traffic subscription. It successfully connects and finds traffic, butu when selecting the option to avoid the traffic - kind of the point of the facility really - the program shows a map of where the traffic is, but with no way of exiting that map. See attachment.
I have an outstanding call with ALK since 30/11 about this, but so far they haven't responded. To be fair they usually respond far quicker than that, so we'll see what happens this week.
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Apparently the answer is to run it in portrait mode rather than landscape mode. A patch is expected sometime to fix this, but no date given yet.
I do find it suprising that the two faults I have were not picked up in testing:
1) Live only works if you have a Traffic subscription
2) Traffic only routes around traffic if you're in portrait mode.
CoPilot7 issue with WM6 and MS Voice Command
I have an Xda Orbit that I’ve upgraded from WM5 to WM6 - definite speed and stability improvements.
I use Microsoft VoiceCommannd 1.6 and this lost its ability to announce the names/numbers of incoming callers after the WM6 upgrade though I have now fixed this.
I also got CoPilot Live 7 and installed this but it is unusable - it slows down the Orbit to a snail’s pace and seems to take so much resource (processing power?) that Voice Command fails to understand EVERY spoken instruction. If I close CoPilot7 completely then Voice Command works again fine.
Has anyone else had this problem?
By the way, CoPilot 6 ran fine with my Xda/WM6/Voice Command and had no speed/resource problems - Voice Command ran fine.
For me, a pocket PC phone without MS Voice Command is like a Ferrrari with no engine - nice to look at but next to useless!
Help please ….
Thanks
There are issues with voice command and WM6, these might be made worse by CP7 but are not the fault of CP7.
The reason no one picked up on Live not working with Traffic on the Beta was that we all had a traffic licence.... maybe that was a mistake.
I know that I had traffic diversion working in landscape mode but will have to test again. Maybe it's only in certain circumstances it doesn't work in landscape mode?
Hey,
Copilot 7 with traffic does not work in landscape mode.
Since buy this and buying the traffic subscription I've had some much trouble.
I told Copilot technical about the problem after severly phone call I was told to use the unit in portrait mode because traffic has a problem in landscape mode.
I ask them if they well retify the problem the answer was No use it in Portrait mode.
The software is not that good you cannot add POI when you are driving down the road.
You cannot add POI to the software.
Ciao
Gigino
Confucious said:
There are issues with voice command and WM6, these might be made worse by CP7 but are not the fault of CP7.
The reason no one picked up on Live not working with Traffic on the Beta was that we all had a traffic licence.... maybe that was a mistake.
I know that I had traffic diversion working in landscape mode but will have to test again. Maybe it's only in certain circumstances it doesn't work in landscape mode?
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Maybe I've misunderstood you, but it's the other way around: Live doesn't work UNLESS you have Traffic subscription.
Traffic diversion refused across repeated installs to work for me in Landscape mode. I switched to Portrait mode on the advice of the extremely helpful tech support and it worked fine. Interestingly, since then I have been able to use it in Landscape mode too.
Hi Guys,
I've a question.
I understand that Copilot 7 works in VGA devices, but does it work in both 128 dpi and 96 dpi mode? My iGO MyWay works on VGA devices, but only if it is in 192 dpi mode.
Thanks for your info. Could someone post some screen shots in both these modes?
eaglesteve said:
Hi Guys,
I've a question.
I understand that Copilot 7 works in VGA devices, but does it work in both 128 dpi and 96 dpi mode? My iGO MyWay works on VGA devices, but only if it is in 192 dpi mode.
Thanks for your info. Could someone post some screen shots in both these modes?
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It works using RealVGA in any mode you care to try. There is no need for screen shots as it looks exactly the same regardless i.e. the icons are the same size, the menus are the same size, the positioning is the same, etc.
cjwilber said:
Maybe I've misunderstood you, but it's the other way around: Live doesn't work UNLESS you have Traffic subscription.
Traffic diversion refused across repeated installs to work for me in Landscape mode. I switched to Portrait mode on the advice of the extremely helpful tech support and it worked fine. Interestingly, since then I have been able to use it in Landscape mode too.
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That's what I mean, on the Beta we all had Traffic so it probably wasn't tested by anyone without traffic so it worked.
Glad it now works inm landscape for you!
hello
did any one manage to get it working?
ijsmith said:
did any one manage to get it working?
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It works, but with some limitations.
It seems that Live only works if you have a Traffic subscription.
And traffic only works properly if you run in landscape mode.
yo
even on MDA Vario 3 mobile
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Hey guys,
Can you tell me if there is an "issue" with the GPS on the Alltel Touch Pro phones? These are fairly new phones and have only been out for a couple weeks so there may not be a lot of info available but it sure seems to me there are some issues here.
I'm on my 3rd phone. First phone was probably OK but since it was new and nobody in the area was familiar with it, everyone thought the speakerphone speaker was defective... turns out it just sucks but that's in a different thread. On the 2nd phone we noticed at the Alltel store the signal kept dropping out completely and then coming back. Also I dropped a call, looked at the phone and it showed no bars in a very good signal reception area. That coupled with I couldn't get the GPS to reliably work, Alltel swapped out the phone again for me thinking the GPS was defective. Well, third one might be worse!!!???
I have verified I have the 911 location settings turned ON.
I have run QuickGPS and downloaded the data.
On the 2nd phone after several days of trying it off and on and having zero success I decided to get the $9.99 monthly Alltel app. It did indicate a weak signal but eventually picked up my location. Hmm??? I then went into Google Maps and it too was seeing around 10 satellites. Why could I not get it to see any satellites for days then as soon as I paid for the monthly Alltel app it "kinda" worked??? I say "kinda" because after that being able to lock onto satellites even in an open field was very iffy. So, I took the Alltel GPS app off the phone and did a hard reset because I still couldn't consistently get any satellites. After the hard reset I tried again with Google Maps and nothing. I then downloaded GPS Test and it immediately found several satellites??? I then started up Google Maps and then it immediately started working too?!? During all this I installed TomTom Navigator 5 (own that so thought I'd try it) and it too was "iffy" if it would find any satellites but it did connect so long as I had the GPS Test program running in the background. I could live with that but even with the GPS Test program running in the background on the 2nd phone it wasn't at all consistent even outside in an open field. What I find odd though is that the GPS seems to "stick" and the GPS Test program was "unsticking" the locked up GPS... but not reliably.
Now for the 3rd phone. Get the 3rd phone this morning and immediately download Google Maps, turn on location settings, and do the Quick GPS. Do a soft reset and try out Google Maps in a parking lot. NOTHING again after over 10 minutes. CRAP! Downloaded GPS Test and now on this phone I'm only getting "GPS starting up" with one yellow bar. I can't even get GPS Test to work now but it finds the GPS and acts like it is trying to lock on to satellites. On both phones it was defaulting to 9600 baud. Seemed to not make a difference if I select 9600 or 4800... when it works it works and when it doesn't it doesn't.
This is very frustrating. It is not like the programs don't work because I've got them all to work but only sporadically. Is Alltel doing "something" to this phone and the GPS like "half assed" locking it out??? I don't know what else it could be. Could I have got two bad phones in a row? I've read were other Alltel users just download Google Maps and, bingo, works immediately for them.
Any ideas as to what I might be able to try would be greatly appreciated. I love some of the features on the phone but some of the basic items that should work (speakerphone, GPS) on an expensive phone like this don't work worth a darn
Thanks!!!
Drop the Alltel Nav plan...you don't need it. All it did was set your GPS settings to work, which you can do in the settings. Set GPS Hardware Port GPS and GPS Program Port both to none. Set Baud at 4800 and allow automatic managment. Soft Reset just in case and you should be good to go!
-Space
mspace00 said:
Drop the Alltel Nav plan...you don't need it. All it did was set your GPS settings to work, which you can do in the settings. Set GPS Hardware Port GPS and GPS Program Port both to none. Set Baud at 4800 and allow automatic managment. Soft Reset just in case and you should be good to go!
-Space
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I only had the Alltel Nav plan for a couple of days... only got it for troubleshooting.
I had tried your settings before and both Google Maps and GPS Test could not even find the GPS. I just tried again and same results... GPS just keeps scanning for the GPS and can never find it. You have an Alltel phone?
The setting that you recommend me changing away from the default setting is the GPS Program Port... if that is set to NONE, the programs can't even find the GPS. When I change it back to COM4, the GPS is found but GPS Test sits at "GPS Starting Up" with either no satellites found or just one most of the time. I did the other day get it to work even on this new phone but then yesterday tried again for 20 minutes sitting still outside and the best I got GPS Test to show was 4 satellites... not even enough to get past the "starting up" message.
It seems like it is defective again but, man, TWO phones in a row with a bad GPS?????
So last night after replying to this thread, I was messing around with the new google maps. This morning...NOTHING works with my GPS. Perhaps the download of alltel nav (although canceled) activated the GPS on my phone for a specified time and now the sub ended. I was sold on this phone by Alltel reps because the GPS was not locked to an app.
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mspace00 said:
So last night after replying to this thread, I was messing around with the new google maps. This morning...NOTHING works with my GPS. Perhaps the download of alltel nav (although canceled) activated the GPS on my phone for a specified time and now the sub ended. I was sold on this phone by Alltel reps because the GPS was not locked to an app.
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Well, after screwing around yesterday like I did, I decided to just let it set in my garage (with many sky lights) this morning for a few hours with the GPS Test program running and looking for satellites. NOTHING. Did a soft reset, went outside, started up the GPS Test program and within 5 seconds was locked on to 10 satellites!?!?! I could swear I've done soft resets before and it did no good. Will try a soft reset again if it quits working on me. Also, I'm inside the house now in a room with ZERO windows and it is still seeing 7 satellites. I suspect there is an issue with GPS on this phone but because it seems very "flaky" I'd think a software update may be able to fix it... hope so anyway!
You might want to try a soft reset and see if that works for ya?
I also talked to a smart phone expert guy and he said it doesn't hurt to do the Quick GPS DAILY. He has found that on many phones running a program like this daily helps the phone to connect much quicker. FWIW, I didn't run it today and after the reset it connected in seconds. LOL
Ok, so I tried running Quick GPS and I get an error "Connection Failed". Perhaps this is somehow related to the GPS issue? I will keep trying throughout the day.
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mspace00 said:
Ok, so I tried running Quick GPS and I get an error "Connection Failed". Perhaps this is somehow related to the GPS issue? I will keep trying throughout the day.
-Space
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I only ever got that when my 911 location setting was turned OFF when I first got the phone. Turned that on and it worked no problem. Also, of course, you have to be able to get your data connection established. With a data connection and your location settings ON, I don't know why you'd have a problem.
GPS no worky right for me......
Finally someone with a thread for this issue! I too am having the exact same problem. The GPS is very "flaky" at best.... I have had it work sporadically at best in the car and will drop it for no reason and the pick it right back up and then go out for good. I dont really understand what to do, it is all quite a mystery. I have manipulated the settings back and forth trying diffent things to no avail. I hope there is an update soon that straightens this out. It annoys me becasue my old titan got signal in about 10 seconds, 10 satellites, indoors, in any part of my house.... just a bit frustrating. Hopefully we get a fix soon.
Thanks for any advice on this!
Gary
bfranker said:
I only ever got that when my 911 location setting was turned OFF when I first got the phone. Turned that on and it worked no problem. Also, of course, you have to be able to get your data connection established. With a data connection and your location settings ON, I don't know why you'd have a problem.
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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
This was driving me nuts! Now not only does quickGPS work, so does google maps I remember now changing that setting last night. Who knew?
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After messing with this a bit more, I think there is definitely an issue with the Alltel version of this phone and the GPS. It seems that if I can't get it to work, it WILL work after I do a soft reset. What triggers the "need" to do a soft reset I have not yet figured out. But, I do know that I saw a friend who just got a Sprint HTC Touch Pro and had no idea about the GPS. I downloaded Google Maps on their phone and in less than 5 seconds the GPS was working like a charm.
Looks like the Alltel GPS works but is very sporadic at best and, for whatever reason, requires a soft reset damn near each time you want to use it. Hoping for a real "fix" for this soon!
and how do i change the 911 location settings
The 911 settings are located in the settings for the phone. START->SETTINGS->PHONE then click the Services tab and it is under the Location Setting.
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Ok here is something that may be contributing to my problem. So i have double and triple checked the my location check and looked at the option which has always read "on". the strange thin is that the icon on the phone dialer screen shows my location feature is set to off. I have gone back to check the location setting and verified it was on. So i selected off then back on and then the icon reflected it was "on". I have tried soft resets after doing this and it goes right back to the way it was before I force it on. I am now hinking this is what is contributing to the flaky response of the gps. just wondering if anyone else has had this problem.....
gary
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Ok here is something that may be contributing to my problem. So i have double and triple checked the my location check and looked at the option which has always read "on". the strange thin is that the icon on the phone dialer screen shows my location feature is set to off. I have gone back to check the location setting and verified it was on. So i selected off then back on and then the icon reflected it was "on". I have tried soft resets after doing this and it goes right back to the way it was before I force it on. I am now hinking this is what is contributing to the flaky response of the gps. just wondering if anyone else has had this problem.....
gary
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Which icon are you talking about? I looked through the online pdf manual and could find no icon that indicated this setting was on or off
Also, while a soft reset sometimes works for this, it doesn't all the time. What has saved me time in this, though, is that I've learned that if it doesn't connect in under a minute, it ain't going to. Mine either works pretty much right away or doesn't work at all. It does seem to help to start up GPS Test first but that doesn't always work either.
After reading a bit more about this on other forums, it doesn't look to be related specifically to the Alltel version like I originally assumed. A number of people with other carriers are also experiencing "flaky" operation of the HTC Touch Pro GPS. The very sad part about this is that, apparently, HTC refuses to acknowledge a problem exists.
Would be nice to know if this is a software/driver issue or hardware issue. If a hardware issue then I'll be stuck using an external receiver most likely. Software, I can hold out hope that somebody will get it figured out!
the icon i am referring to is on you phone dialer. it is a circle that resembles a set of crosshairs. when the location feature is on, you will see the crosshairs. when the setting is off the crosshairs have a diagonal line through them. i am using my phone to send this so i cant attach any pictures right now. the icon is right next to the back arrow at the top of the dialer where the number you dial is shown.
update... spent 30 minutes with alltel smartphone support and they had no solution other than saying they would send this to the group that reports issues to htc to work on a solution. they did offer me to return it but i like this phone too much. i am
sure we will figure it out soon enough.
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the icon i am referring to is on you phone dialer. it is a circle that resembles a set of crosshairs. when the location feature is on, you will see the crosshairs. when the setting is off the crosshairs have a diagonal line through them. i am using my phone to send this so i cant attach any pictures right now. the icon is right next to the back arrow at the top of the dialer where the number you dial is shown.
update... spent 30 minutes with alltel smartphone support and they had no solution other than saying they would send this to the group that reports issues to htc to work on a solution. they did offer me to return it but i like this phone too much. i am
sure we will figure it out soon enough.
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Ahh... I see that now and amazingly enough, mine has a line through it. I'll check that next time I can get the GPS to work and see if it changes.
Like you, I really like the phone but it greatly aggravates me that something so expensive doesn't work, as designed, out of the box.
I have had 3 alltel TP phones and all of them once 911 and location was set to on and quick gps was run once then they always got instant locks of 10 satellites. On my mogul the best i would ever get would be 4-6 satellites. Google & Live search use the intermediate driver with default settings with no lag and Iguidance (which is the best voiceprompt gps software) works with no lag when using Franson GPS gate as a virtual com port for the GPS driver.
bruceo said:
I have had 3 alltel TP phones and all of them once 911 and location was set to on and quick gps was run once then they always got instant locks of 10 satellites. On my mogul the best i would ever get would be 4-6 satellites. Google & Live search use the intermediate driver with default settings with no lag and Iguidance (which is the best voiceprompt gps software) works with no lag when using Franson GPS gate as a virtual com port for the GPS driver.
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If you go to your phone dialer, is there a "line" through the crosshair/circle icon?
I haven't been able to get a lock for couple days now. Bummer. I'm going to call Alltel tech support again and see what they say.
Ok, after not even beeing able to get more than a couple satellites being shown in GPS Test which means nothing more than a GPS Starting message, I decided to call tech support to see if they had documented any other issues with the phone since I last contacted them. I was told there are NO known issues with the Touch Pro (not even the problem with the speakerphone or the previously reported GPS issues).
After talking with tech support and they guy telling me that they get a number of calls for "other" GPS software programs but not too many for the Alltel Navagation program that they offer, he told me he can't help me with the other programs and I should contact their vendors. I tried to explain to him that one was a simple GPS Test program and the other was Google Maps but he kept saying that they don't really have problems with "their" GPS subscription program.
Being basically fed up and figuring it was worth the $10 to continue to troubleshoot this problem, I downloaded the Alltel Navagation program again. And guess what... IT WORKED. Guess what else... when I had the Alltel Navagation program working, GPS Test and Google Maps work fine too and I'm even inside a large building right now!!!
Does anybody have any "inside" on what is going on here? I know a number of Alltel people say the GPS on their Touch Pro works just fine using something like Google Maps. On mine, it "sometimes" works. I find it VERY odd that on my last Touch Pro phone I NEVER got even a single satellite to show until I downloaded the Alltel pay program. Now, with this phone, after struggling with it a bit I can "sometimes" get it to work but haven't been able to for a couple days, even after numerous soft resets but now, immediately after activating and running the Alltel program, my GPS starting working just peachy and even inside a large building!?!? I've got a full 5 bars in the Alltel GPS program inside. WHAT GIVES???
I'm going to pay for this Alltel program for a few days and see if I can consistently get a lock. If so, I'd sure like to know why the phone's GPS magically gets "better" so long as you pay for their service
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If you go to your phone dialer, is there a "line" through the crosshair/circle icon?
I haven't been able to get a lock for couple days now. Bummer. I'm going to call Alltel tech support again and see what they say.
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I am using the regular windows dialer and yes there is a line through the circle/crosshair.
I just went outside and launched Gpsgate/Iguidance and had 10 sattelites instantly, it has been at least a week since I have drove and used the GPS, but I use it all the time with no problems or lag. Inside I almost instantly get 6-7 sats. using Google maps or livesearch without GPS gate, only the MS intermediate driver I get instant locks as well. I ran quick GPS once about a month ago on this unit.
VZNav Rom 2.0 for Verizon XV6850 - llllBoredllll GPS Edition
Update 23 Dec 08 See Post #2
Preface:
This ROM is based on the eRice kitchen like my last couple ROM's. It has a modified version of the llllBoredllll GPS Fix. I modified it to create a link to PPST.exe in Programs -> Navigation -> Installation. In that folder you will also find three other installers for the latest version of Google Maps (with the new feature set)and Live Search. All tested and working with GPS locks usually under 60 seconds.
Details:
OS / Kitchen:
eRice TP Kitchen v1.03.7 [SYS OS 5.2.20931 Build 20931.1.5.0] with my Verizon OEM Pack
- Removed -
JetCet Printing
Older Opera 9.5 from Stock VZW ROM
NETCF 2.0
+ Added +
*NETCF 3.5 - Faster than 2.0 and now the standard from the eRice Kitchen
*Apps
Opera 9.5 build 2649 (Has zoom slider!)
iContact Burt Edition 6.4.5 (finger friendly contact chooser, iphone-ish)
HTC YouTube From kitchen
Latest Google Maps and Live Search. They are fully upgradeable to new version with out any issue!
*Utilties
TF3D Config - Modify TF3D settings and themes
Diamond Tweak - Modify many system settings
Advanced Config 3.3 - Modify even more system settings
nueFonts - Change fonts and sizes. Trebuchet and Calibiri look great!
SPB Back up - Great back up app. 5 free uses.
A black themed psShutXP - Utility to soft reset
HTC Network Plug in from Kitchen
*Sensor
Gyrator - Utility to rotate screen automatically in any app
Diamond Hologram - Cool 3D sensor app that simulates a hologram
Seismo - Nifty program to simulate a seismograph using motion sensor
*Tweaks
Minor system tweaks for performance and usability
US Weather Database
Modified Verizon TF3D Theme with Internet, music, and photo tabs gone. Can be added back in using TF3D Config
Custom TF3D Icons
TF3D Flip Clock on VZW theme
Contacts mapped to left softkey on Home screen.
Internet Sharing
*GPS Fix
Bored GPS is incorporated for the easiest of use
Instructions:
** YOU MUST BE UNLOCKED BEFORE BEGINING! SEE STICKES FOR UNLOCK DETAILS FIRST! WE WILL NOT SUPPORT UNLOCKING IN THIS THREAD JUST FLASHING.
Flash ROM from RUU folder using ROM Update utility. Sync with Active Sync before starting upgrade utility. This ROM flashes just like any other Custom ROM.After flash is complete phone will boot up and AutoRun will start setting up. Do not try to stop this! Phone will reboot on its own when completed.
When Phone boots back up wait for the system to finish loading then...
1. Start Dialer by clicking Green Phone button
2. Dial *22899 and let the programming start. Phone will reboot when completed
3. Click Start -> Programs -> Navigation -> GPS Prep. Install it to the device and not storage card. When install is complete click OK. You should be back in the programs menu under Navigation.
4. Now you see an Installation folder as well as GPS Prep. GO into install folder and run "Run PPST". Select OK to proceed with update. When that is finished select OK when prompted to reboot.
5. Now we need to enable GPS in windows and verify the PRI update worked. Start phone by pressing green button. Service should now say Sprint instead of VZW. You will need to make a call to do this. Dial your voice mail. It should ring in to it no problem and the carrier should now say sprint on the screen instead of VZW. If it does then proceed to next step. If not go to step 1 and start over.
Now click Menu -> Options -> Serivces Tab -> Location Settings -> Get Settings -> Location On -> OK ->ok
6. DONE!
At this point you are done and GPS is unlocked. You can start installing the included GPS apps if yiou choose.
**The included apps have been modified to put the shortcuts in the Navigation Folder under programs. They are the latest versions respectively as of 20 Dec 2008 11:49PM Central Time. They can be uninstalled later to accommodate updated software! Don’t ask in the thread because you will look really silly as I have answered the question here.
Installing Live search and Google Maps then making them compatible, Step by Step!
How to set up Live Search
Install application from \Navigation\Installation\
After installing the application will launch.
Select Menu -> Settings. Arrows Done to GPS COM0 and change it to GPS COM4. Select Done
Now select Map. This brings up the default map. Next turn on GPS by pressing Menu -> Center on GPS.
It can take a few minute for a first fix. After that it much quicker. I also recommend toggle Center GPS on and back off again if it doesn’t pick up in under 90 seconds as a matter of fact the program will force you to. If it forces you to then click Ok then toggle “Center on GPS” off then back on and it will lock quickly! First lock is always hard on fresh flash. After that you should be good to go.
How to set up Google Maps
Install application from \Navigation\Installation\
After installation Google Maps will load for the first time.
Select Menu -> Options -> GPS Settings
Select Set manually and then arrow down and select COM4 then change baud rate to 4800. Now click ok.
Now Select Menu -> Use GPS and you will then lock on!
TomTom7
Install as normal and let it configure the GPS automatically as normal when starting up for the first time.
Done!
Remember: Be patient! It may take a couple soft reset to get it to work but it will. Trust me. Worse case scenario I had with a flash was I had to try twice in Live search then exit live search, toggle location off and back on, restart Live Seach and it locked instantly. Most of the time it will lock on the second try. Its been about 90% consistent under 60 seconds for me. A brand new phone took only two tries with live search and it got it within 15 seconds on the second try.
Note 1: This was done on a brand new in Box XV6850 straight from the VZW store and worked as stated above. These were also conducted using the stock Radio. This was done in the office basement of my house completely below ground. These are results are repeatable as I have don’t them at least 8 times now on two different phones.
Note 2: I have not applied anyother fix to my phone other than the steps listed above. I have not applied the aGPS fix either.
If you want to change the banner than follow the thread for the GPS fix by bored. There are instructions in there on how to fix the banner from Sprint to Verizon.
Downloads: www.scottcrosler.com
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Update 23 Dec 08
I have uploaded the kitchen. The direct link is below until I update the html. Please ask any questions you have in this thread and I will try to help as much as possible. eRice would not be asisting as I made pretty major changes he would not be able to support.
Just replace the eRice OEM fiolder wiht hte one in the download. Use the kitchen per his post.
http://www.scottcrosler.com/TouchPro/OEM.rar
Ok some users having issue getting the golden first lock try this:
Its cheating but it works. Call VZW and add VZ Navigator to your account. Its free for 30 days. Download and install it. Use the My Location to get a fix. Exit VZ Nav. Start live search, google, tom tom whatever and it will lock right away because the GPS is primed. Once you get that first lock you are godo to go!!! Call VZW at end of 30 days and cancel.
It does take patients. I had it not work right away on about 3 of 15 times trying it since it was out. It will work but requires patients. When paitents runs out try the above.
You can also try the aGPS fix aswell as using the GC provisioning cab. Some users said tha tmakes teh differnece for them.
My best advice: Soft reset and toggle GPS off and then on in phone options. Styart live search and try again. It may take a couyple times but it does work ;c)
About to give this a try, you and bored are f*ckin great!
Ill be back with confirmation and appropriate thanks if all works out!
*sigh* i just have to charge up to 50% battery first lol
Nat2fresg said:
About to give this a try, you and bored are f*ckin great!
Ill be back with confirmation and appropriate thanks if all works out!
*sigh* i just have to charge up to 50% battery first lol
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Hahahah, I will have tell you how to get around that one day. You think my battery ever makes it OVER 50% hahahaha.....
How to get around: Put phone in bootloader mode. Active sync doesnt check battery status. I flash on 5 to 10% battery most of the time. hahaha... I dont recomend this to anyone other than myself.
Dont try this with the hard PSL though!!!!!!
Thanx Scott, will try this out in a bit. Flashing this stuff is an addiction now...
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Thanx Scott, will try this out in a bit. Flashing this stuff is an addiction now...
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Good, glad to see my addiction is spreading and no longer contained to just me! Hahahaha...
Let me know what you think.
Just an FYI: You do not have to apply the GPS fix if you choose not too. The ROM can be used as is.
I've been waiting until there was a GPS fix before flashing a custom ROM; did this one this morning and works like a charm. I haven't customized anything yet; just installed the ROM, my Exchange settings, the GPS fix and Windows Live, and it works like a charm so far.
I'll be able to answer this myself shortly; but did you put Voice Command back in?
Thanks so much for all your work.
I have flashed to this ROM and I am not able to get the GPS to work at all.
I am going to reflash the ROM and try again and report back on any progress.
I hope this works for me.
Thanks for your work and Bored as well.
You guys are the reason I went to HTC over Samsung.
You guys ROCK!
Tom Tom Navigator
You mention using the gps with TomTom Navigator 7. Do you know if it would be the same in TT Nav 6 which is what I have? Is there a TTNav7 for US or a way to use it on US maps?
Can someone point me towards more information on the GPS fix? this truly unlocks Verizons GPS for use of any GPS app?
EDIT: oops. Found the info I needed.
Thank to you Scosler, I have been really enjoying my touch pro.
So I reflash the ROM and I am still not able to connect as smoothly as others have been able to.
I followed all directions and still no GPS! UGHHH
Scott, I checked the Device Info for my PRO and saw the following info:
ROM Version = 1.00.0.0
ROM Date = 09/12/08
Radio Version = 1.03.03V
Protocol Version = 7500J-SDCBBPZM-6150
Hardware Versio = 0002
PRL Version = 51143
PRI Version = 1.53_003
Browser Version = MSIE 6.0
ERI Version = 4
Is this what it is supposed to be?
If not, What did I screw up?
RonMac said:
So I reflash the ROM and I am still not able to connect as smoothly as others have been able to.
I followed all directions and still no GPS! UGHHH
Scott, I checked the Device Info for my PRO and saw the following info:
ROM Version = 1.00.0.0
ROM Date = 09/12/08
Radio Version = 1.03.03V
Protocol Version = 7500J-SDCBBPZM-6150
Hardware Versio = 0002
PRL Version = 51143
PRI Version = 1.53_003
Browser Version = MSIE 6.0
ERI Version = 4
Is this what it is supposed to be?
If not, What did I screw up?
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Nope thats what its supposed to be. Just be patient. Make sure location is turned on, try to get a good a spot where you can see the sky.
I just compared mine to a sprint phone with aGPS and mine actually locked about 15 seconds faster. It took my 7 seconds to lock. Took him 23 seconds.
Try toggling location on and off. Do it while you are trying to connect with live search. It may seem to freeze the phone. If it does it means GPS is working because it wont let you toggle. If thats the case then go back into live search and toggle GPS off again. Then toggle the location setting off and back on. Thats what it took for me one time.
Its touchy the first time but not like that the second and subsequent times.
Be patient, it does work. I couldnt get it to work the very very first time. I had to play with Location Settings off then on a couple times and soft reset a couple times and I was GOLDEN. Most of the flashes I have done already just require the toggle off then on trick.
Be patient, it works. You will get it. Leave your phone by a window if you ahve to and come back in 5 minutes. I think watching the display makes it lock slower ;c)
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Can someone point me towards more information on the GPS fix? this truly unlocks Verizons GPS for use of any GPS app?
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Did you even read the first post? The fix is in the ROM. Just follow instructions.
If you want the fix without the ROM its over at PPC Geeks.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=49933. THis can be applied to some existing Custom ROM's, any and all versions of my custom ROM, and the stock ROM. Not all custom ROM's have been reported to work. I see three posts for the NexVision ROM stating it doesnt work. I cant say one way or the other. I only use my own ROM's.
This new ROM works like a champ! I followed the instructions exactly and it worked first time without any issues. Great work!
Mike
mmcgough said:
This new ROM works like a champ! I followed the instructions exactly and it worked first time without any issues. Great work!
Mike
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! Glad to here man. Like AQTHF Carl would say "Its freakin Awesome!"
And voice command is there, which is huge. Thanks!
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And voice command is there, which is huge. Thanks!
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Hey guys, glad you liked it! Good stuff or what?
I found TomTom 7.45 locks THE FASTES out of all GPS apps. I locked with TomTom and Live search was in the background still trying to lock.
I also compared my phone against a Sprint Cooked ROM on a Sprint device and my **** locked 3x faster than the sprint device.
Here was the conditions:
Temp -15 F
Time 10:00am
Location downtown Fargo ND
My ROM on my XV6850
Sprint Cooked ROM from PPC Kitchen on Sprint device (Co-Worker)
Both OS were 20931 builds.
We both walked down the stairs form our "vault" of an office. We both flicked on TomTom and stood side by side. Mine locked in 7 seconds, his locked in about 23 seconds. A full 15 seconds difference. **** Sprint and all the **** that was talked. I consisitenantly get faster locks than a sprint device.
FTW!!! MY ROM KICKS ASS. FTW!!!! llllboredllll forever!
Having issue with GPS. When i try to enable location to ON, it just hangs, I get the busy icon and it doesnt do anything. I can push OK and it dissappears but gps doesnt work in any program. I tried rerunning all the gps tools but nothing works. When i restart the phone in settings it shows location ON, but it still doesnt work. When i try to turn it off, it hangs again.
Scott,
I haven't installed this new ROM yet but I wanted to point out a problem I've been having with the last ROM. When I want to download an attachment within an email in Messaging, the keyboard almost always locks up and I can't save the attachments to my TouchPro. It locks up on the screen where I select where to place the document as a 'Save as'.
Other than that, it's all worked great and I can't wait to try out the new GPS fix!
-Brian
i know there is many threads out there about this..
but i wanna know out of experience which one works best for CDMA users
as we don't need all the extra stuff about SIM cards
BTW i have a sprint touch pro
just in case i am looking for GPS software that will tell me where the phone is if it gets stolen by means of SMS or e-mail
Thanks
MOE
sprite terminator... has options to locate the phone, lock it, etc.. works fine on my sprint tp.
mkalbouneh said:
i know there is many threads out there about this..
but i wanna know out of experience which one works best for CDMA users
as we don't need all the extra stuff about SIM cards
BTW i have a sprint touch pro
just in case i am looking for GPS software that will tell me where the phone is if it gets stolen by means of SMS or e-mail
Thanks
MOE
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Smartphonetracker is a nice free app....it uses Google maps to locate....brings it right to the house view...(street view)
I second Smartphonetracker. It works great
so i just dl the smartphone tracker..... still kinda noob
1. when i check the SMS box it says #, thats my phone # right????
2. i put my email in and so does that mean i send a email to that address and it tells me my phones location???
just tryin to figure how this thing works
The sms box is phone you want the sms/ google map link sent to. If you leave the box blank it will send and sms to the phone that sent the sms to activate smartphonetracker on your phone, you click on the link, and it will open the phones bowser in google maps, and show you where your phone is.
The email location, is an email address that you want SPT to send the google maps link to. You will get an email from your phone with a google maps link, open it, and it will show you where your phone is.
Hope that helps
This application is fasinating! I really like Smartphonetracker! I'll sneak it on my friends sites and track them like the government!
i am actually trying sprite terminator now, ill see how it works for this week and then ill try smartphonetracker next week and compare
ill post the results
thanks,
MOE
nue gps security
NueGPSSecurity is free and works VERY well. So simple and elegant. http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2008/12/25/nueGPSSecurity-v112.aspx
I'm using SmartphoneTracker and am very pleased from what I've seen. In the e-mail it gives you a link to one of 3 maps sites, and tells you the speed it was traveling.
sgtcody said:
NueGPSSecurity is free and works VERY well. So simple and elegant. http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2008/12/25/nueGPSSecurity-v112.aspx
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i second that, i'm partial to nueGPS security myself
Smartphonetracker
Just tried out Smartphonetracker
Now that is a cool app!
Has anybody used SmartPhoneTracker on a verizon phone with bored's GPS fix? My rom has the fix and GPS works very well using google maps and live search, but this program won't pick up the GPS (continuously says initializing GPS).
Thanks.
Anyone know why I get "Initializing GPS" for Smartphonetracker and it never gets past 0/1? I installed it to internal memory. GPS and data connections are on. I've got good signal. I'm running version 3.5 of windows .net
If I click "Send now" it says GPS not available. It's a Sprint Touch Pro with the standard rom.
Nevermind. Once I got out of my office building for lunch it worked. Must not have been able to acquire my position from inside.
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Nevermind. Once I got out of my office building for lunch it worked. Must not have been able to acquire my position from inside.
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now just if it was able to get A-GPS position(triangulate). I know it's not accurate as actual GPS position, but atleast it works inside buildings.
I think best would be two triggers, one to initialize A-GPS and second one to initialize actual GPS. As the GPS message does not get sent until phone gets GPS signal, it would be good to send A-GPS signal to get the proximity of the phone. Once the phone has GPS signal, it would provide exact location. This way if someone stole your phone, you would know the approximate location, and then just wait and get the actual position from the GPS and track that #@$#))#@$ down.
there may be a better way, but thats what i've thought about.
well, since starting this thread i settled on sprite terminator its been working great
tested it a couple of times and it works great!
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Has anybody used SmartPhoneTracker on a verizon phone with bored's GPS fix? My rom has the fix and GPS works very well using google maps and live search, but this program won't pick up the GPS (continuously says initializing GPS).
Thanks.
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RemoteTracker works very well on my Verizon Touch Pro with bored's GPS fix.
Guys this is great!!! Thanks a lot for this post!!!
I can't believe that nobody's brought up Flexilis. It's free and it does everything from GPS Remote lookup of device to remote alarm initiation(beeps for 5 mins and the person with the device can't do a damn thing to silence it, even if they power off the phone then when they power it on again it'll beep again for the remaining balance of the 5 mins), and remote wipe abilities.
I have been trying for quite some time to get the pesky little 'Internet Calling' option to show up on my Touch Pro. I've tried all sorts of little utilities on various different ROMs and I've yet to see my VOIP provider show up as an option to dial out on, or even any change when 'Internet Calling' is configured and enabled on the Home screen.
There seems to be lots of (possibly outdated?) info out there and there is no shortage of utilities that are supposed to enable the feature, but as far as I can tell none of them seem to work on this particular phone.
I would like to have SIP enabled on my phone, and I would like it to use the same dialing pad, contact database and phone program that the phone on the device uses. I don't want a seperate application, I just want the phone to be able to dial out and recieve calls via VOIP over WIFI, and I want the bluetooth headset to work properly with it and I want clean audio in both directions with a good WiFi connection. Support for multiple SIP accounts would be a huge bonus as well. Is this asking too much or is it just not possible with this device?
I am aware of and do have Fring and Skype both working on the phone, but they do not share the same features as the standard phone application that is native to the device, the biggest issue is that if the phone goes to sleep I don't get calls, even if I'm sitting in my office with a perfectly good wifi connection.
Is there a ROM out there that has VOIP enabled where you can just set up your provider and it works? Has anyone had any success on this phone getting VOIP to work natively? If not a thread that basically says no, it doesn't work might help others that are fighting with this issue.
Thanks in advance.
I had never heard of this as even being possible in WM
Go to registry "Features" under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Phone,
and add 8 Hex to the value.
Thanks to beefviper on ppcgeeks who figured this out.
Original info here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=749746&postcount=5
If anyone else has more info on CDMA & SIP I'm interested, because it seems like I can't get all pieces working together at once. Either the GPS is broken, or the microphone is muted. Fix one, break the other.
This worked for me!!!!
Just going to reflash and see if I can get it all working without all of teh extra hacking around and will report back.
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Go to registry "Features" under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Phone,
and add 8 Hex to the value.
Thanks to beefviper on ppcgeeks who figured this out.
Original info here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=749746&postcount=5
If anyone else has more info on CDMA & SIP I'm interested, because it seems like I can't get all pieces working together at once. Either the GPS is broken, or the microphone is muted. Fix one, break the other.
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bluenote73 said:
If anyone else has more info on CDMA & SIP I'm interested, because it seems like I can't get all pieces working together at once. Either the GPS is broken, or the microphone is muted. Fix one, break the other.
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Here is what I did after you posted the missing link:
1. Reloaded my phone with the latest NSFAN ROM.
2. Set up the phone to connect to my wireless network. Turned the phone and data connection feature off (my phone is not provisioned)
3. Installed WM6VoIPFull.cab - restarted phone as suggested.
4. Installed Setup_Voip-v0.3.cab
5. Ran Sip Config Tool V2.0.1
6. Ran Sip Dialplan - soft reset as suggested
7. Ran Setup VoIP and set Outgoing calls using VoIP to 'Whenever Available' in the options tab
8. Added 8 to the Hex value at the reg key you noted. Restarted the device.
9. Enabled the Internet Calling on the Settings/Home/Items option
Saw that the VoIP was saying No service. Confirmed connection settings were correct but could not see the phone hitting the PBX at all.
Re-installed WM6VoIPFull.cab, rebooted, re-enabled whenever available... swore some more... Home item says no service. Reconfirmed that the PBX works with settings I'm using with softphone on PC. Made sure I could get to Google Maps on phone. WiFi is working and DNS is resolving, account parameters are all good... still no service. Phone isn't even attempting to log onto PBX.
Whet back to this thread on another site - http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1610281
And performed the regedits and added thescripts in post #9 (Cudos to 'El Ha$on')
So I am able to easily turn VoIP on and off....
Try random things to try to get it to magically work again. No Joy. Just for kicks try turning the phone on, and I get a notification that says 'home only' - no clue what that means.
Confirmed that the connection is set to whenever available tried togelling the use over the phones data connection, rebooted. Still 'No Service'
Can't figure out why the phone doesn't want to connect through my wifi, throw phone across room against the wall and go to bed.
- UPDATE -
The above method DOES work, however there is another issue. Microsoft uses a different set of protocols for SIP authentication, so if you are attempting to connect to a PBX that does not support the Authentication that the phone is offering up, you are likely geting 401 errors.
I can connect the phone directly to my trunk lines without any trouble now using the above method.
Installing audioroute routes the audio to the earpiece of the phone and the volume that I am getting is sufficient, allthough not particularly loud.
Happy Voiping
Glad to hear you got everything working. Could you post a link to where you got the voip package you actually used?
Sure thing, I used the files from thread number 8 from here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1610281
Does your GPS work with all this installed, and have you confirmed that your mic is transmitting your voice? When I was first testing, I didn't even think to check that people could hear me. (Because I was calling one of those automated response places).
Thanks for the link, I think I might take a bit to work up the energy to try yet another combination
Yes GPS is working and VoIP is fully functional. Last piece of teh puzzle is to get the Wifi to remain always on.
(and get it to Authenticate with freeswitch)
Touch Pro CDMA and VOIP
I currently use an HTC Touch Pro to dial out through my WiFi router on a phone that is not active with any cell provider. I am able to do this with an older version of Skype software. When I tried updating to the latest version of Skype software it would not work. I am not able to receive calls on it yet, but I believe I will be able to trick the interface into receiving calls through the Internet the same way my computer does.
Wifi: no stand by / always on
hammtech said:
Last piece of teh puzzle is to get the Wifi to remain always on.
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Fetch WifiNoStandby.cab from forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730303
Hi all
I have the marketplace live tile on my start screen and I was notified of an update just now. It was for Orange Maps Navigation.
If you're using the HTC 7 Mozart you should open the marketplace and you will see 1 update at the bottom of the screen. Tapping on this it will show you an update for Orange Maps. Select Update All at the bottom left of the screen.
Now you have a fully functional Sat Nav system on your phone! It's only free on some Orange price plans. I am on Panther and get the basic version for free and can pay £2:50 per month and get traffic and speed cameras as well.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
Good spot!
For info, I'm on a Mozart as well but the marketplace didn't give me an update notification. I searched for the app tho and was able update once I'd found it.
Cheers.
I installed Orange Maps today and did a test navigation route for 2-3 miles. It worked perfectly almost as good as tom tom.
Orange Maps is herer
Yep, my Mozart picked up an update yesterday, and I installed it an tried it.
My thoughts so far:
1. Seems fine - navigation works OK. Free on Panther (with live traffic and camera alerts for 2.50 a month - which I haven't tried yet)
2. Navigation voice seemd a little quiet - but that is probably tied to overall issue of WP7 volumes all controlled from one volume control (I really want to be able to set system volumes and ring volumes differently)
3. Day / Night view is not switched automatically (but it's an icon on the main screen so no major issue)
4. You have to turn off WiFi before you can use it - I woul like to be able to do my searching and set up my favorites etc on a fast WiFi connection (as I struggle to get a good data signal indoors).
5. The screen stays on whilst navigating (which is good), but as soon as you drive past your destination it stops navigating (and then your phone turns off depending on your settings), so if you miss your destination you will have to stop and start up the app again to find your way back
6. Not sure how it will deal with multi tasking issues (what happens if a call comes in whilst you are driving?). I set up a route at home, and tried turning off the phone (putting it to sleep pressing the top button). I turned it back on, clicked on Orange Maps and it popped up syaing 'do you want to conitnue your route' - which was great. I turned it off again, and then when I got in the truck (about 10 mins later), I clicked on Orange Maps and it just started up with a blank location screen. Luckily it has a histroy of recent searches / places, so it wasn't more than about 4 clicks to get it going again (but it had to re-download the route, which was a pain).
7. The 'spoken road names' (text to speach) is a nice feature, but the street names (presumably downloaded from the Orange servers) are of a much lower audio quality than the general directions, which sounds a little wierd. Also, I don't think it does all names (it didnt' seem to on my test journey last night) - but it wasn't just major roads. To be honest, I think it did the first 5 or 6 road names and then stopped....
Overall I'm pleased, it's turn by turn Sat Nav for free (on my contract), which is more than I've had for the last few months (I've had to use Bing Maps in a couple of emergencies, and you can use it in the truck if you have to, but it's just not the same as proper sat nav.
I'll be looking forward to see what MS bring out next year for Bing Maps, and see how it compares, but for now, I guess this is all we've got.
Has anyone tried the extra live traffic and speed camera updates yet? Do you know if you have to committ to paying this for a number of months, or can you just turn it on and off as required??
I haven't got the notification yet. in which category you found the orange maps application on market place? cheers...
Mine had some problem in Marketplace this mornng (said something like it hadn't succesfully downloaded, but failed to download it again - even though it worked fine last night!)
So I uninstalled it, and then just went into Marketplace and did a search for Orange Maps (and it came up straight away).
As a side note, when I reinstalled it, I didn't have to re-enter my personal info and choose my plan etc - so I'm guessing that even when apps are uninstalled, some user data can be left behind (registry perhaps?)
I'm excited to use this! I'm on Dolphin though so I have to wait until the end of the month to change to Panther, I don't want to pay £5 to use this!
Search for "Orange Maps"
ZeeShh said:
I haven't got the notification yet. in which category you found the orange maps application on market place? cheers...
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Hi ZeeShh
If you do a search for "Orange Maps" from phone, it should come up. Just open the marketplace and then tap the search button.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
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Hi ZeeShh
If you do a search for "Orange Maps" from phone, it should come up. Just open the marketplace and then tap the search button.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
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same here, no notifications and search culdn't find anything in the marketplace, i am using vodafone sim, culd this be an reason?
hard to believe that orange maps are live as i went through website an it says coming soon.....
Hi Andrew, thanks for the guide but nothing came up in market place search. I even tried with "orange" word alone.
I am out of country at the moment and using local SIM; would this be a reason like idonxda is facing?
Hi
I can confirm it is live.
idonxda - even if you could download it you wouldn't be able to use it on a vodafone sim - they have locked it to Orange only (you can't even use via Wifi - even on an Orange phone).
Zeesh - i would guess that roaming abroad will mean you're using another carrier, and so again the 'Orange Lock' would prevent you using it.
However, I'm surprised that this is preventing you from finding it in the Marketplace. I was doubting myself so I just checked on my phone again.
Open Marketplace, hit search, type 'Orange Maps' and it comes up.
Browse through to Applications, Navigation, Free and it'a about the 15th one down the list on my phone.
And there's another review dated today so other people have found it!
I wonder if they are able to 'sim lock' (i.e. operator lock) items in Marketplace??
Got a few questions..
1. It says unlimited use of orange maps with my panther plan, so does that mean my 750mb internet usage would't be affected?
2. Are the maps offline by default or it downloads everytime it says 'downloading route'?
3. I use up around 500 mb easily in 15-20 days & monitor it for the remaining days. So if i use the maps for say 6-7 miles, how much data it will use? I can't find any info on data usage specific to maps, if there is any?
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Hi
I can confirm it is live.
idonxda - even if you could download it you wouldn't be able to use it on a vodafone sim - they have locked it to Orange only (you can't even use via Wifi - even on an Orange phone).
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Zeesh - i would guess that roaming abroad will mean you're using another carrier, and so again the 'Orange Lock' would prevent you using it.
However, I'm surprised that this is preventing you from finding it in the Marketplace. I was doubting myself so I just checked on my phone again.
Open Marketplace, hit search, type 'Orange Maps' and it comes up.
Browse through to Applications, Navigation, Free and it'a about the 15th one down the list on my phone.
And there's another review dated today so other people have found it!
I wonder if they are able to 'sim lock' (i.e. operator lock) items in Marketplace??
Hi thnaks Paul, finally I cud find with a trick- I installed the pre installed apps then restarted phone and researched then I was able to find it and tried it with Orange sim card. But funny things if i try to search on marketplace again i canot find, i think there is something either may be related to to the Orange sim.
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omniauser7 said:
Got a few questions..
1. It says unlimited use of orange maps with my panther plan, so does that mean my 750mb internet usage would't be affected?
2. Are the maps offline by default or it downloads everytime it says 'downloading route'?
3. I use up around 500 mb easily in 15-20 days & monitor it for the remaining days. So if i use the maps for say 6-7 miles, how much data it will use? I can't find any info on data usage specific to maps, if there is any?
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Hi omniauser7
I think you need to direct those questions to Orange.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
I'm fairly sure the maps are downloaded each time.
I'm not sure about data usage, I don't monitor mine (I thought the Panther plans were true 'unlimited' data usage?)
Ok, I'm back in UK, put the orange SIM in my phone and got the Orange Maps updated, installed. thanks to all out there.
However, Since I'm not on Panther plan so it was not able to use the maps straight away; called Orange help desk and they told me either I've to be on Panther or with existing package I can get the subscription for £2.50 per month with unlimited orange maps usage and with traffic updates etc. I got it subscribed for additional £2.50 per month.
However what customer care representative was not sure that with this unlimited subscription the orange maps data usage will be from my 1GB internet bundle or will it be out of it? I did not ask further on this and will check my next bill for confirmation or I'm sure I'll get the answer on this forum quickly
cheers...
hey guys,
The one reason we (in our organisation) don't use orange maps is that it downloads maps every single time and takes it out of your internet useage. Cheaper to go buy a proper sat nav unit, or software in the long run.
Even if you're not on panther you can get 7 days free trial of pro version. Make sure it's for you
Can't upgrade app
Is anyone else getting the following problem?
My Marketplace shows an update required for Orange Maps, I select the app, click update, then I allow the access to location, then I get the following message:
"Can't get this information at the moment. Check again in a little while."
I have had this for a few days now. Also, if I search for the app in the marketplace it does not show, either searching by name or looking under Navigation>Free.
I have an Orange UK SIM but I have switched the SD card for a 16GB one so I wonder if that is somehow linked to this problem.
abrabr said:
Is anyone else getting the following problem?
My Marketplace shows an update required for Orange Maps, I select the app, click update, then I allow the access to location, then I get the following message:
"Can't get this information at the moment. Check again in a little while."
I have had this for a few days now. Also, if I search for the app in the marketplace it does not show, either searching by name or looking under Navigation>Free.
I have an Orange UK SIM but I have switched the SD card for a 16GB one so I wonder if that is somehow linked to this problem.
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try uninstall it fully and the search and install again by using 3g but noi wifi....