Hello,
I have the white screen of death at the moment, and i'm pretty sure its a hard ware issue - 've narrowed it down to being an issue with the connectors in the ribbons... I'd like to take the hermes apart - Is there a guide on doing so anywhere on the net - I'm having trouble finding one -
cheers - JJ
Hi JJ,
I would recommend taking a look at Mike's (a fellow moderator) site here. He has a wealth of info on the subject of tearing apart the Hermes.
Good luck!
after viewing the youtube video - I've decided to take it to the shop....
wise move!
Believe it or not .... Seeing How easy he did it in the Youtube Video it's Super Easy. I thought Like you did but I"m on Tmobile with No warrnty so I had no Choice ..... Here I am Two Hermes Deep and both Taken apart And I Changed Housing Myself And Made Sure all Connections Were Secure and no More White Screen Of Death.
so you too had the white screen of death? and tell me, did taking it apart and sticking it all together again fix the problem immediately?
I know this question wasn't directed towards me, but I thought I'd answer anyway. The "white screen" problem is caused by a loose connection between the LCD and board. So, by reattaching them, the problem will be fixed immediately. Well, that is of course unless it's something else...
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so you too had the white screen of death? and tell me, did taking it apart and sticking it all together again fix the problem immediately?
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Hi cracks,
Just read somewhere in another thread that somebody was asking about the bad colors of WM6 and that it was much better under WM5.
But now it is even not possible with downgrading to WM5 to get the right settings back.
This is the same for me (S200 G4). All pictures and movies are looking bad just as you would have not enough colors anymore.
Any idea what it is or how to solve that?
Am I really the only one having this problem?
Is there perhaps a registry setting for adjusting that?
Thanks,
Boris
I would like to know the answer too
I also have the same problem. Anybody knows a solution?
My screen got fixed.
After resetting to WM5 I still had the problem. But after Hard resetting twice it's fixed. Boris03, Could you confirm this. I would like to upgrade again but not at the cost of busting my graphics, So I don't want to experiment again. Thanks
Problem back again
After a few minuts when I turned it on again, the problem was back. So I'm sorry for the wrong info, but it was fixed for a few miutes for sure.
are you guys talking about camera pictures & vidz ? if so, it's just that your device is overclocked while it shouldn't.... if not, describe your problem better so that someone can answer it... post screenshots... help yourself.
Screen shots
I am speaking of the windows screens actually. It is not noticable on all screens but ones with gradient shades show it and also where there are menu buttons. I took Lastnikita's advice and took screen shots.......... but on my PC the screens look perfect.
I'll try to explain what I see on my PPC. In terms of RGB, it looks like the blue has shifted from the rest of the colors a bit to the right. This is noticable in menu buttons where the left half looks pinkish while the blue overlaps the button boundary and sticks out the right. In gradient colors i.e. the contacts screen there is a blue column on the laft of the screen and a lot of pink around the middle. The effect looks like a low bitrate image. Maybe I can use a seperate camera to take a picture.
I have downgraded after using Touch X ROM and am now using 2.20.7.34 WWE ROM.
Thanks.
If you used a software screenshot, it would have taken an image of what was supposed to be shown. To me it sounds like a hardware fault rather than a driver related issue.
Yes. I just found this out and I was thinking the same thing. But the similarity of the problem looked strange. Maybe the problem is not the same either. Thanks.
Thanks for the advice. I just opened up my Neo and undid the ribon to the display then plugged the ribon back in. It's fixed. Thanks everybody.
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Thanks for the advice. I just opened up my Neo and undid the ribon to the display then plugged the ribon back in. It's fixed. Thanks everybody.
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Wow, very luckly, I have same problem. Can u guide in detail for me? What is the ribon? If have pics is better. Thanks!
I'd like to help. But are you willing to risk of opening up your PDA? I was desperate.
This will void your warranty.
I tried to write a description but it's too hard
The basic idea is to open up the back. 2 screws are visible under the battery cover the other two are under the Camera cover plate which is the only hard part to remove. It has catches on both sides near the bottom edges. If this is opened then you can see the other 2 screws. Once unscrewed you can take off the back panal. It also has some catches but they give in to a little pressure in the joining gap. I used my nails to liver it. The back has to be taken away carefully as the speaker is connected to this and you don't want to break the wire. Once this is open and you place the back cover beside the unit so the wire is not streached you can start working on the ribbon.
You'll see a copper ribbon just above the IR port connecting to the motherboard. It is locked with a clip. You can unlock the clip by ..................
I'm not sure you're interested anymore. . Let me know if you are.
It would be better with pictures or MSN maybe.
I don't know if this forum has a rule against giving out MSN IDs.
well, maybe I should bring my Neo to the store (still warranty more 6 months left ^-^). I only used PDA for more 1 month, so I don't know much about them. Concern to hardware maybe I can't do well as you ^-^.
Thank you very much for helping me!
I am from Vietnam, so my English is bad. I don't know the following is true or not? ^-^
God help you!
Bad colors since WM6
Hi all,
I cannot believe that this should be a cable problem. It was just since I was upgrading to WM6 and the downgrade is not solving the thing anymore.
It is just like you display a video or pictures with 16Mio Colors on a 16Color display. And before the same video and pictures looked brilliant.
On other thing is that e.g. the background pictures (theme) from Gullum are looking bad as well.
And also I can see the background colors flickering a little bit from time to time. Again this is since i upgraded the first time to WM6.
S200 G4, No overclocking.
Thanks,
Boris
The easy way to check out if its a cable problem is by taking screen shots. If they look good on the PC then chances are very high that it is a physical problem and just might be a cable problem. If they are the same on the PC as on the PPC then it obviously is not a similar problem to mine.
Thanks
Hello,
yesterday I installed some new games on my p4350 and let a friend play with it,
unfortunally he pushed to hard with the stylus and the screen got damaged . the screen is still working but it got a dent.
now I wanna replace the screen myself, anybody can give me instructions how to do this?
Also i wanna know if the soft layer on the top(not the screen protector) and the lcd, is one thing.
http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/HTC Herald Sevice Manual.pdf
download and read that ,it will show you how to disassemble the herald and take the screen out
Replacing digitiser on Herald as opposed to Hermes
Scuse me for butting in but I have both just bought a Herald with a broken screen AND have done a few screen replacements on Wizards, Blue Angels and Hermeses.
On this Herald I had just assumed that you could basically follow the video on YouTube which shows how to replace a screen on a Hermes? I see that the PDF file is quite complicated and is designed to show you how to take off every tiny part if it has failed. The screen replacement is far easier that this, right?
Secondly, I see that you can buy the screen separately from the 'protector' which is I assume the bit with the hole in on your unit? I have to say, I had never seen these replaced separately before: Is this something special to the Herald or can you replace this digitizer separately from the screen on other units as well? If so, how on earth do you get it off the screen please? And is there a reliable way of getting one back on? (There is no reference to this in the pdf manual but the digitizers are suddenly being sold on ebay for about five bucks)
So the question is whether this is still as difficult on the Herald as threads on the Hermes suggest?
I've opened my Herald, and to reach the screen you have to disassemble the whole thing.
It's not that difficult (albeit while following the service manual, since there are a lot of tricky areas like removing the Keyboard), you just need to have patience and not rush it.
Any way to set up device after flash with no touch screen.
The digitizer or screen is not functioning, before i take it all apart as shown anybody no of a way to bypass the touchscreen setup.
before trying to change the digitizer...
(and i know this is crazy but worked for me after replacing the cable going from the screen to the board)
install a screen protector and try again!
I had the same problem after opening my Herald, and right now the screen only works if i have a screen protector on. If not then nothing happens
digitizer replacement is actually very easy.
Jeffreyr1 said:
Hello,
yesterday I installed some new games on my p4350 and let a friend play with it,
unfortunally he pushed to hard with the stylus and the screen got damaged . the screen is still working but it got a dent.
now I wanna replace the screen myself, anybody can give me instructions how to do this?
Also i wanna know if the soft layer on the top(not the screen protector) and the lcd, is one thing.
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As I have now posted on a different thread, the digitizer replacement is actually very easy. You just slip a razor blade under the tabs and lever it off after removing that yellow tape on the back.
moullas said:
I've opened my Herald, and to reach the screen you have to disassemble the whole thing.
It's not that difficult (albeit while following the service manual, since there are a lot of tricky areas like removing the Keyboard), you just need to have patience and not rush it.
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I agree. It was not difficult at all. I took apart and put together the phone a few times after just to develop a feel for it.
We have a tendency to get nervous about it but if you relax it becomes easier.
I have a a extra digitizer that I never used. If anyone wants it, pm me.
Hi All,
Im having some problems with my Evo 3D. It was scratched out of nowhere by just sitting in my backpack MP3 slot. I found some dust on the screen (most likely thats the cause of the scratches). I have 2 medium scratches and a lot of minor/medium. The problem is that I am really getting upset when I look at my screen and I decided to accept it condition no more. I have 2 questions (For the first one I am pretty sure of the answer, but still I will ask it).
First. Are these scratches covered by the warranty? The obvious answer is no of course, but I am wondering - since it is with the "mighty" Gorila Glass, how did it got scratched without even dropping it... So Im thinking, is it possible that the warranty will cover this?
Second. If the answer of the above question is NO - I will change my digitizer. I chose to change the digitizer because it costs 10 pounds, comparing with the whole screen which is 70-80 on ebay. There is something that bothers me though. I am afraid that even a slight misalignement will cause troubles while using the phone and missclicking some stuff... Also I am afraid that dust might get between the screen and the digitizer while Im doing that.
I hope there is someone that already done this (and I mean digitizer only change) that will be able to help me with some advices and/or techniques. I am technocal guy, so following your instructions wont be a problem. Its just I haven't change Evo 3D digitizer before and I want to have proper preparation.
Any advises will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Have a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560037
I posted some stuff on the last page too so you can go to that.
HTC might fix it for you, probably at a cost, you can give them a ring and see if they can help
Other than that, just read through the link i gave, alot of good info there that will help you replace the digitizer. Good luck!
Hello XDA Community!
I seem to be having a serious issue with my phone and cannot seem to find a solution online, so I am hoping that someone here will be knowledgable enough to assist me!
When I slide my keyboard out on my sk17i, my screen refuses to change orientation or respond to my touches. Having tested this further, it seems that it is the screen itself that will not change, but keys pressed and touches are registered. I have figured out that I can slide the keyboard out about 40% (just over the bottom row of letters) and the screen seems to change orientation to landscape AND responds visually to my touches. Any more than that and it just stops.
I looked online and someone suggested passing a magnet (fridge) over the keyboard. I did that and it worked once for about a minute. After that it returned to this state and there doesn't seem to be anything I can do about it. I have just put in an order for new facias and a new hardware keyboard to repair it as I have had it since the day it was released and some components are getting on a bit.
Does anyone know what the issue is? I only can think of one thing and that is a flex cable issue, but I cannot be sure at all...
I'd appreciate any help that can be given!
At first glance, yes, seems like a flex cable/ribbon issue. You screen will remain frozen when the keyb is completely open because the framebuffer stops receiving signal from the motherboard. It wont take long until your screen shows artifacts or goes completely blank even when the keyb is closed. Your touch digitizer might also be affected by a bad flex cable.
I suggest you replace it as soon as possible, but don't try to do it yourself unless you have experience repairing phones. I tried to do mine and ruined the LCD display, making my repair cost three times as much
PD: magnet over the keyb? never heard of that.
Pixelado said:
At first glance, yes, seems like a flex cable/ribbon issue. You screen will remain frozen when the keyb is completely open because the framebuffer stops receiving signal from the motherboard. It wont take long until your screen shows artifacts or goes completely blank even when the keyb is closed. Your touch digitizer might also be affected by a bad flex cable.
I suggest you replace it as soon as possible, but don't try to do it yourself unless you have experience repairing phones. I tried to do mine and ruined the LCD display, making my repair cost three times as much
PD: magnet over the keyb? never heard of that.
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Many thanks for that! The flex cable is out of stock right now, so that is quite worrying, I hope it lasts the next month or so! I think I should be okay with repairing it, since I've worked with very small and delicate electronics before in Engineering. Just will have to be super extra careful! Any advice about what to watch out for?
And yup, magnet seemed to work once, I saw it on a very old thread, but that was the only advice given there.
Well, good luck! Be extremely careful with the display though, the original display assembly has unprotected corners and borders on the LCD so it's very easy to break it, especially on the lower side near the softkeys. Replacement parts often come with plastic and/or metallic protectors on them, which help keeping the LCD safe. Guess SE never meant for people to crack the phone open hehe.
again, good luck with that.
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Well, good luck! Be extremely careful with the display though, the original display assembly has unprotected corners and borders on the LCD so it's very easy to break it, especially on the lower side near the softkeys. Replacement parts often come with plastic and/or metallic protectors on them, which help keeping the LCD safe. Guess SE never meant for people to crack the phone open hehe.
again, good luck with that.
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Aah okay! I guess I shouldn't bother replacing the facia then, don't want to break the screen! Thank you once again!
Well, all my parts have now arrived, so tonight I'll be attempting this! Hopefully this goes well and fixes the problem!
ECGadget said:
Well, all my parts have now arrived, so tonight I'll be attempting this! Hopefully this goes well and fixes the problem!
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Best of luck to you, mate.
Replacing a flex ribbon/cable on the mini pro is no easy task, requires patience and steady hands when sticking the big square part onto the metallic slider while making sure all of the other components (home button, camera, led and sensors) keep aligned in place. Do it wrong and you're in for an even more tedious mission haha.
PD: here's a crappy pic from when I did mine
Pixelado said:
Best of luck to you, mate.
Replacing a flex ribbon/cable on the mini pro is no easy task, requires patience and steady hands when sticking the big square part onto the metallic slider while making sure all of the other components (home button, camera, led and sensors) keep aligned in place. Do it wrong and you're in for an even more tedious mission haha.
PD: here's a crappy pic from when I did mine
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Thanks for that! I was just struggling to take the motherboard off, and looking at the picture helped me see where I could try to pry it open!
Yeah, the mobo can be a b*tch to take off. Glad I could help. Be sure to tell us how it goes.
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Yeah, the mobo can be a b*tch to take off. Glad I could help. Be sure to tell us how it goes.
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Well, after a cracked front facia (thanks to the previous repair that I had on it two years ago), and my temperamental lights, my phone works a charm! Replaced the flex cable, motherboard mount and hardware keyboard. Once again, thank you so much for your advice, I have decided to hang around this place much more often!
Repaired two years ago? Wow, your phone is kind of a veteran haha, mine is about to turn 2yo in about two months. Gotta get a birthday cake.
Good to know everything went fine. See you.
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Repaired two years ago? Wow, your phone is kind of a veteran haha, mine is about to turn 2yo in about two months. Gotta get a birthday cake.
Good to know everything went fine. See you.
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I've had my phone since two weeks before it was released in 2011 xD
I'm sure your phone will love the cake
Noticed a new glitch with my phone though... the softkey and keyboard lights start to light up when I switch the screen on, but as soon as the screen switches on the lights switch off?
Never heard of such problems. What rom are you on?
I am running a stock gingerbread 2.3.3 rom, just rooted it a year ago. No other changes, apart from shoving CWM onto it for backup/restore
Hey guys, I just saw this post after hours of frustration!, I recently changed my damaged slider mechanism on my sk17i and I had to transfer the ribbon cable from the one mechanism to the other but I glued it with 2mm adhensive that is used for screen, and the problem is when I open the phone it is always on landscape mode, like the phone thinks the keyboard is always out! Before I tried this repair
everything worked perfect
How the phone understands if the keyboard is out or not?
Please tell me what I could have done wrong, I would appreciate your help here!
Sorry for my bad english
Thank you in advance!!!
I've been trying to figure that out myself too, it seems to be some kind of optical sensor. Whatever it is, it just works for me hehe.
Pixelado said:
I've been trying to figure that out myself too, it seems to be some kind of optical sensor. Whatever it is, it just works for me hehe.
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And you dissasembled it and re-assembled with no problems?
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And you dissasembled it and re-assembled with no problems?
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Welcome to XDA.
Like Pixelado said, it is probably an optical sensor. My advice would be to disassemble the phone again (without unsticking the flex cable though) and make sure everything is back in its correct place. It make just be something is a little out of place, which is very easy to do! Good luck!
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And you dissasembled it and re-assembled with no problems?
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Yes sir. I have never re-used a flex ribbon though. I removed the broken factory ribbon and stuck a new one in. No problems.
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Yes sir. I have never re-used a flex ribbon though. I removed the broken factory ribbon and stuck a new one in. No problems.
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Then as long as I dont know where the sensor is in order to find out my mistake, I am afraid my phone will be permanently on landscape :crying:
Thank you for your replies guys!
Hi guys,
I accidentally sat on my Z3 Tablet (I know how that sounds, but I had it in a messenger bag - not used to carrying those - got on the bus, sat down and there it was right where it was not supposed to be) and now I got a nice case of cracked screen.
As far as I can tell only the glass is broken because the screen and digitizer still work fine and with any clue how it is built inside I am definitely capable of fixing this/replacing the glass/screen as a whole. But after looking for a while, I haven't found any teardowns/fix guides etc. Because I am reluctant to do this "blindly" (although this would be my final choice) I wanted to ask if any of you has seen something that could help me or maybe even had the same problem and fixed it?
This is my first post and usually I only read in this forum, so I want to thank all of you who participate here for the massive amount of useful information
I also have been looking for teardown instructions and found nothing so far...(Not that i have something broken, just curious what's inside )