post any accesories that you want hopefully some manufacturer will read this as as yet there is little avaiable except screen protectors so heres an idea
how about a case that protects the shift but heres the clever partwith a solar panel built in so it will charge and thus extend the battery life of this amazing machine?
any other ideas ?
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post any accesories that you want hopefully some manufacturer will read this as as yet there is little avaiable except screen protectors so heres an idea
how about a case that protects the shift but heres the clever partwith a solar panel built in so it will charge and thus extend the battery life of this amazing machine?
any other ideas ?
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how about also shrinking it to size of athena and when bac in use makes it same size. would make it pocketable though
i dont know if any one is fammiliar with the company called incase...
they have great cases for iphone.. hard rubber silicon. I hope they can come out with something like that for athena....
or most phones.
My family own a plastic manufacturing company in middle east. i might have to check with them to see about manufacturing some accessories....
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i dont know if any one is fammiliar with the company called incase...
they have great cases for iphone.. hard rubber silicon. I hope they can come out with something like that for athena....
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Or do what the rest of us Athena Owners have done, get yourself a
"Tuff as Nuts" case.. Much better build quality.
Solor panel bag
spzero said:
how about a case that protects the shift but heres the clever partwith a solar panel built in so it will charge and thus extend the battery life of this amazing machine?
any other ideas ?
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Hey about that solor panel, you may want to check out this...
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/09/voltaics-new-generator-solar-bag-can-charge-a-laptop/
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Hey about that solor panel, you may want to check out this...
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/09/voltaics-new-generator-solar-bag-can-charge-a-laptop/
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HOW MUCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First, there has got to be a slick docking station similar the one for OQO 2. Lan port, 3 usb, optical drive, vga out, PCMIA slot, and throw in a big ass battery to charge the Shift from when the onboard goes dry. Long trips you can bring the docking/charing station. A shoulder bag for this would be great as well, 7" screen isn;t going to fit in the pocket so nicely, but a minimal stylish shoulder bag could work pretty well.
Of course, accessories won't matter if nonbody buys it cause the GPS and voice are disabled Really, without GPS, voice, and the ability for both OS's to access all the storage resources you are going to have to carry a phone anyway so why would you buy this and not a cheap mini-laptop for half as much?
For in-car use
a car charger
a car cradle
case
how bout a hard case with a flat bottom and holes for vents and ports on sides so its usuable on lap, and solar panel not so much to get it 12volts id have to cover the whole screen and even then id tske hours to chage like 6 or 7 so id basically be usuless in less u sit outside in bright sun all day and dont want to see anything in less it flipped up that might work then i block sun out too to cut black glare,
a bigger internal battery
i would love..
a battery around 4000 ma even with a bigger cover.
...maybe an official upgrade of wm side, by paying the full licence but with a good implementation of qualcom grafic drivers
finaly.. if ppctechs could provide a 256 ram update , plus a micro sd slot . they can do it
I believe HTC Shift will have probably a short life cycle... As this is their first "rather mature" product of this kind. They are surveying the market, know the design flaws and specification mitakes. The next one should be now specified at 80% already.
I'm confident we will see lot of improvements on the device itself (but this is not the topic of this thread). Let's focus on accessories as this is also a weak area when comes to HTC Shift offer. From HTC, I just see the following:
- Extended Battery (for heavy user and because... this is a great margin generator. ).
- Docking Station (more USB ports, VGA output, Ethernet).
Third party manufacturers can take care of the rest (Car Craddle/Charger, Cases, ...) but they will do it only if the next product has good sales or benefits from strong HTC support. Due to short HTC SHift life cycle, I dont think HTC is pushing hard for having partners making accessories.
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Hi , I get tired of holding the device at reasonable level in front of me while watching episodes/movie during flight.
It seems possible to bend some plastic to fix the HTC to the raised eating tray (jam the "holder" between the closed tray..)
did you see something like this before ? - or any similar solution ?
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Hi , I get tired of holding the device at reasonable level in front of me while watching episodes/movie during flight.
It seems possible to bend some plastic to fix the HTC to the raised eating tray (jam the "holder" between the closed tray..)
did you see something like this before ? - or any similar solution ?
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Not seen one but sounds great!...sounds like you have the idea.
It isn't too difficult to make something like this from aluminium, or even perspex plastic just some considered bending.
I am a steel fabricator(amongst other things!) next time you are on the plane take some cardboard with you and make a dummy one with it, then you can use it later to make one from something more substantial.... and sell them all over the world to Iphone users!
yes, it would need to be a flexible material, yet hold a device without acting too much as a a spring.
I don't think "one size fits all" - it have to be adjustable in height/distance to the user.
Too bad a suction cup won't work.
I use one of these in my car. Works great.
http://www.amazon.com/Dashboard-Win...OR-INCLUDED/dp/B002BBS1AC/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_a
I found !
It's sold as accessory for a certin crappy, censorship, survelliance-device.
- but it works great for Touch Pro2 too !
it's called "in your face" viewbase
you can find it on Ebay
My dad owns his own cnc machine shop and I'm contemplating designing a small but heavy dock that is lined with felt that we can sit the transformer in. It would hold it at only one angle but it would also have a slot milled out which would allow you to keep the usb cable plugged in. Would most likely be anodized to match the color of the transformer as well. Need to design and work on costs. Potentially could be used for other tablets down the road. Haven't seen anything like what I invision yet.
Just wondering if there would be any interest in these if I made them available?
Need more info but I am in the market for such a product.
Keep us up to date.
P.S. simpler the better for me as far a design.
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Found something on amazon, check out the " Thought Out Stabile iPad 2 Stand - Black" it's almost 4 lbs. and made of steel.
Depends also what price range.
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Price point would be the clincher for me. I also think that simplicity is important as well. Meet those and I would buy.
The Thought Out iPad Stand is a simple and clever design that looks like it would work for many different types of devices. However I think the developer is killing himself with the price and by marketing directly to Ipeople only.
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The Thought Out iPad Stand is a simple and clever design that looks like it would work for many different types of devices. However I think the developer is killing himself with the price and by marketing directly to Ipeople only.
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I agree with you totally, the price is a little high ( you should see what they want for the aluminum colored one ) and the marketing is limiting, I only suggested this one because of its weight. There are similar stands that cost less ( also limited by imarketing ) but they also weigh less..........anyway, I'm still curious to see what the OP comes up with, sounds like it's going to be a real solid build.
Belkin Flipblade
I use this:
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F5L080...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1307205284&sr=8-1
It's sturdy, folds to pocket size and holds all my tablets (and phone!) in either portrait or landscape. No slot for the USB cable, though.
glg
I'm looking a waterproof, and hardwearing phone for my mum.
She wants an android phone that she can take kayaking with her. She is planning on using an app like 'endomondo' to track her activities on the river but when paddling you do occasionally fall in!
So... a question for all Active owners... how waterproof is it really?
It's not going to go very far underwater, a meter or so at most. The advertising blurb says it should be fine but was after some assurance from users that know!
many thanks in advance...
waterproof
Yes it is waterproof!
video
thanks for the link.I guess that proves it!
Are there any phones that can go deeper underwater atm?
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thanks for the link.I guess that proves it!
Are there any phones that can go deeper underwater atm?
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Google something like "rugged phone 2011" - there are several phones that claim to be especially made for outdoor persuit activities and you'll be able to check the specs (and see what they actually guarantee). I'd also look at (less geeky) sites specialising in such activities - perhaps a canoe club or society. Good money says that they'll have greater expertise on this subject than the average software writer.
One other point - there are protectors available for many phones. The cheapest are basically plastic bags - the dearest are custom fitted, sealed hard-cases (pretty much the same sort of thing you get for cameras). You can find those in online stores but you may get more detailed infromation by looking at specialist outdoor shopping sites (you can always get the info then see if it's cheaper elsewhere).
hi thanks for the reply.
ive tried numerous searches however there are many phones that are 'coming out soon', or are simply in japan and not over here yet!
I was seeking some inside knowledge lol
I've seen waterproof cases for nearly every phone around however would rather it did not have to use a case as it it very important for it to be hassle free and easy to use. She will be upgrading from an old nokia in a plastic bag!
Although not entirely submerged, mine was tested in a glass of water at work during a lunch break.
Evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7a0HH6brAQ
(but for super-rugged, I'd look at Sonim. Some models they'll apparently replace no-questions-asked if water damaged. Not android, however)
yes
Yes, but my experience says, the network coverage goes quickly down - the deeper You submerege the phone underwater. So speaking underwater or texting is not possible, but....
Camera still works fine even deep.
ha... i dont think she will use it underwater! Its just in case the boat capsises...
so ideally the phone would be ok down to about 2m... just in case!
Is there really not an android phone in the UK that will go down to 2m and survive?
i dropped my active in a bucket of water and left it there for 5 minutes
i discovered water between the main and the second cover and my voice sound robotic after taking a call , there was water in the mic hole ..
i will never drop it again for sure !!
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i dropped my active in a bucket of water and left it there for 5 minutes
i discovered water between the main and the second cover and my voice sound robotic after taking a call , there was water in the mic hole ..
i will never drop it again for sure !!
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Is this true? I had motorola defy and submerge it on a pitcher for 2hours but still good after that.. No I have an active but never tried to submerge or even splash it with h2o...
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Yes, the water is supposed to go between first and second cover. If You open it up, You'll see, the second cover has a seal to make it waterproof. So that's normal.
If mic is wet, the sound distortion is also normal, since water distorts it quite badly. The first cover holds the second tightly to keep it waterproof.
Would something like a Sonim XP3300 Force be suitable - around £250.
That phone is sold as water-proof to 2m for an hour and can even be dropped 2m into concrete without harm (it also claims to have the longest battery life of any phone in the world). Has A-GPS and the usual "extras" to go online etc. Buttons designed to be used whilst wearing gloves. It's basically designed for heavy industry.
Double check but I understand it comes complete with a load of "extras" included in the price - case, car and wall charger, dashboard mount etc - that may make the price more attractive.
It just made it into the Guinness Book of Records - it's officially the world's toughest phone
From personal experience I can assure you its
As waterproof as it should be. The obly review that managed to make me buy this phone was this: dcrainmaker.com/2011/09/hands-on-review-of-sony-ericsson-xperia.html
This guy actually makes a real life test of the phone. I myself work at construction so I have cement splashing on it, and all I have to do it take a shower with it to make it aaaaalright
Regarding the defy... Well its got a larger screen, but it looks more flimsy than the Active. What sorta put me off on the defy is the quality of the power and minijack rubber plugs. They would only last not so long on my hands... All you have to do on the active is change the back cover. The only drawback for me being accustomed to a physical keyboard amd a 3,7" screen of my Desire Z is the size of the onscreen keyboard of the 3 inch screen.
Also expect somewhat better battery life on the Active than the defy. Almost 50% of the battery drain is from the screen, and having 60% less pixels on a screen you easily go through 2 days of moderate-heavy use.
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I had a Vipertek--same as the RooCase, Blurex, Poetic slim fit cases--for my old Samsung GT10.1, and I really liked the way I could balance it on one of my thighs.
How well does the laptop combo work when balancing on one thigh? And in your lap?
Extremely well. One of the things I like about it is that it can be used in the lap, in bed, on top of covers, without worrying about heat or blocking air vents.
I do quite a bit of writing on mine this way and it works great. Oh, and I'll add: it's not so much "balancing," as it is "just setting it there." It's not as if I have to consciously manage it as I do my Prime when it's just in its cover.
Battery life with the dock was amazing.
Hate rain on the parade, but overall I did not like the dock in use.
I found the keys small,
and in Canada we are forced to take a unusual bilingual layout
that resulted in a number of typing errors.
My biggest issue was when in use,
the screen/dock connector extends below the bottom of the dock,
putting the weight all in one small area instead of distributing it across the base.
I found it more uncomfortable to use in my lap
than my 14" HP laptop that weights much more.
I decided to stick with the HP laptop for when a KB is needed,
and use the Prime only as tablet.
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I found it more uncomfortable to use in my lap
than my 14" HP laptop that weights much more.
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Thus demonstrating how such things are HIGHLY subjective. I have an Envy 14, and I have to say, I'd much rather type on the Prime+dock on my lap than the Envy. The notebook gets hotter and despite any weight distribution considerations is just heavier. I also feel like I'm actively managing the HP more than the Prime+dock. The keyboard is smaller, sure, but I adjust pretty quickly.
Not to say it's possible to be "wrong" here, but rather to say perhaps it's not best to ask others for their opinions on this but rather get the dock from somewhere you can return it and give it a try yourself.
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Extremely well. One of the things I like about it is that it can be used in the lap, in bed, on top of covers, without worrying about heat or blocking air vents.
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This is probably the single biggest bother I have with using my laptop. I can under no circumstances impede air flow, or my laptop goes nuclear. One of the things I love about a tablet.
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My biggest issue was when in use,
the screen/dock connector extends below the bottom of the dock,
putting the weight all in one small area instead of distributing it across the base.
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This is what was going through my mind when I asked the question. Thank you for your reply.
I would still like to hear others' opinions as well. Thanks in advance.
I'll add that the Prime+dock hasn't replaced my Envy. I still pull out the damn laptop tray (which I hate) on occasion depending on what kind of work I have to do. But for straight draft writing, especially any impromptu writing, I like being able to slap the Prime on the dock, stick it on my lap, and start writing, without worrying about pulling out the tray, arranging it, sitting in the right position, etc.
And it's the little things that matter sometimes, right?
I love my HP and it's just a AMD A6 as well,
it runs cool and completely silent most of the time,
only down size is the shorter battery life but plugs are near by if needed.
No doubt, the ASUS transformer design of a removable tablet screen is the future for many portable devices.
Forget ultrabooks, Win8 dockable tablets will be the next big thing IMO
Just this early Android iteration with the extending screen base
and smaller keyboard didn't quite fit right here.
The Prime as a tablet is great.
This Kickstarter project is about to ship:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/fusechicken/une-bobine-for-people-who-love-iphone
One of the devices that was tested was a Note, and it performed flawlessly. I backed the project, and will give my review once I get it. Really looking forward to it - works on both desk/countertops as well as in your car.
Be careful when adjusting it, could really bend or break your ports. Otherwise it looks like a cool product. Could see it being great in the car.
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Be careful when adjusting it, could really bend or break your ports. Otherwise it looks like a cool product. Could see it being great in the car.
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For sure. It looks like they made a nice, fat base for the mini USB connector to rest on. Hopefully it will support a good deal of weight. Supposedly it will even hold it in landscape, which I am cautiously optimistic about.
That does look pretty cool. As the others have said, the microusb port is such a shallow port, it may not provide a lot of support if any when adjusting, or if set at an angle of any sorts. Be curious to hear your review when you get it!
Im not impressed. Micro USB ports arent designed to hold weight.
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Im not impressed. Micro USB ports arent designed to hold weight.
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The port doesn't hold the weight. The base does. Same concept as a dock.
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The port doesn't hold the weight. The base does. Same concept as a dock.
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I watched the videos, I dont see where your getting the idea that the base holds the weight. They only show a glimpse of the iphone connector in one of the videos and it doesn't look any different from my ipad2 cable.
I would love to see a Note held horizontally via USB. Its one thing to position an iphone in every position since the port is 100x more secure and locks to an extent.
This has no base. Your USB port will support the entire wieght of the phone. Won't be long before USB port is loose and ceases to function.
By 'base', I mean 'connector plug'. The USB port is on a large plug which distributes the weight across a larger area than if your phone sat on just the cable end. Still, small port, certainly not made to be jostled around on. I bought mine for my desk, so should be fine. Again, more details when I get the thing.
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By 'base', I mean 'connector plug'. The USB port is on a large plug which distributes the weight across a larger area than if your phone sat on just the cable end. Still, small port, certainly not made to be jostled around on. I bought mine for my desk, so should be fine. Again, more details when I get the thing.
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From what I'm seeing that would only be true if the phone were completely balanced at a 90 degree angle otherwise much of the weight is actually distributed as shear stress against the inside of the micro USB plug which is not good.it needs some kind of backplate to cradle with.
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From what I'm seeing that would only be true if the phone were completely balanced at a 90 degree angle otherwise much of the weight is actually distributed as shear stress against the inside of the micro USB plug which is not good.it needs some kind of backplate to cradle with.
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I've asked Jon Fawcett, creator of Une Bobine, to drop by this thread and comment on concerns. I think they are all valid.
Hey all. Meatlocker sent me an email to address your concerns. I'll give some info here, but please feel free to ask more questions of me.
We made 2 substantial changes to the standard details around the micro connector that are intended to resolve the issues with all of the weight on the connector. First, our connector housing for the micro is about the same width as a standard iphone cable. The extra width spreads the weight of the phone to a greater area, which places less weight on the connector itself. Also, if the phone is tilted slightly, the phone body will hit the connector housing and stop the phone from putting additional sideways strain on the connector.
The second thing we did was to make replaceable caps on the housing end. These caps adjust the space between the connector body and the tip of the connector. This essentially adjusts how far out the connector comes. These allow us to reduce or remove the gap between our housing and the body of the phone so that the 2 items listed above are as good as possible. We have 3 caps designed to adjust this spacing to keep the phone tight in position. We also have one cap with a right angle bracket to assist with some side-port phones. And we have another cap that leaves a small portion of the traditional micro end sticking out that will let it fit into cases. Each device comes with all 5 caps.
Of course, these won't solve every phone and every usage. But we have tested with 30 different androids, windows, bb's, and feature phones and these have made the difference for most of them. Also, we don't recommend adjusting the position of the phone while it is connected to the cable except for small amounts to get it to the exact right position.
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Hey all. Meatlocker sent me an email to address your concerns. I'll give some info here, but please feel free to ask more questions of me.
We made 2 substantial changes to the standard details around the micro connector that are intended to resolve the issues with all of the weight on the connector. First, our connector housing for the micro is about the same width as a standard iphone cable. The extra width spreads the weight of the phone to a greater area, which places less weight on the connector itself. Also, if the phone is tilted slightly, the phone body will hit the connector housing and stop the phone from putting additional sideways strain on the connector.
The second thing we did was to make replaceable caps on the housing end. These caps adjust the space between the connector body and the tip of the connector. This essentially adjusts how far out the connector comes. These allow us to reduce or remove the gap between our housing and the body of the phone so that the 2 items listed above are as good as possible. We have 3 caps designed to adjust this spacing to keep the phone tight in position. We also have one cap with a right angle bracket to assist with some side-port phones. And we have another cap that leaves a small portion of the traditional micro end sticking out that will let it fit into cases. Each device comes with all 5 caps.
Of course, these won't solve every phone and every usage. But we have tested with 30 different androids, windows, bb's, and feature phones and these have made the difference for most of them. Also, we don't recommend adjusting the position of the phone while it is connected to the cable except for small amounts to get it to the exact right position.
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Do you guys have any pictures?
Looks cool...but I don't trust it.
I know the Note doesn't weight a ton, but it seems a little top heavy/big to be comfortably used with this thing.
Hmmm...maybe they could come out with something that'll attach to the USB port and allow the phone to be rested on or something to prevent all the weight from being on the phones port?
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Do you guys have any pictures?
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...or-people-who-love-iphone/posts/238347?page=2
Lots of good pics there (Note included), along with a video of both the micro usb and iPhone connector in action with a phone.
This is a cool idea, and I like that the maker takes time to come and talk. I understand what he means that the weight is on the plug and the base and it seems like it would work fine under ideal use, but my concern is that I would smack it, hit it, knock it over, something that would cause far more then normal amount of weight on the plug. Im glad to see some innovation though, I may give it a whirl, we'll see.
Managed to get my hands on 2 of these and they are great - if you have a smaller phone. I have no problems with HTC wildfire s or Sony Xperia Ray. When it comes to the rather large Samsung gs3 it is a different story. I have to lean the phone forward to get it to charge and this defeats the purpose of the bobine. Also in portrait mode it doesn't charge just rest against the connector casing.
Great idea for small phones! Just hope they can get a solution for larger devices as the concept is great!
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