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faster internet on MDA's
I notice if I overclock the cpu to 247 Mhz it does download a little faster in the phoenix area.
Even you can do a bit faster, it's still GPRS speed. You can not push much speed from it, it's always slow.
The EDGE part should give a bit more speed, but i'm not sure if T-Mobile in The Netherlands has EDGE part. Lucky i have unlimited GPRS, thus no paying for each byte, i don't care much about speed. And there is no time limit or paying for seconds like normal phone. Yes, you can let GPRS online and connected, and you can set Wizard in standby. The GPRS traffic is still going in standby mode!
(i have for example use PocketCHAT, a IRC client. I have set it always online so i can read messages from my friends. The IRC is not disconnected when i put it in standby mode. And very low battery drain too )
GPRS speed is always affected by mobile traffic. When there are more slots free in GSM traffic, GPRS has more room and can go faster. If it's busy, for example in New Year calls, GPRS speed goes down.
GPRS uses unused bandwidth in mobile traffic, that's why it's free compared to normal GSM modem traffic which is forced to use mobile traffic. GPRS don't affect mobile traffic very much, thus in positive way.
That is my theory here about GPRS.
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How fast is the network speed when surfing when on the XDA? It dosen't seem any faster than a 56k connection...
nor is it likely to be
http://bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
here you can test how fast it is
dont think anybody ever claimed that gprs were fast
but it sure faster then the wireless data option we had before which
was max 9600
I agree. The best I ever get is 9600. You can use the GPRS tracker to see average speed. I got to look for the link for it and will put it here.
Hi all.
I have had my N1 for a little over a week now, and the battery life i guess is normal for a pda with this power etc, but i read over on modaco that by changing over the settings from CDMA preferred to CDMA only, actually increased the battery life loads! So I tested this and indeed it does nearly double my battery life..
I have also now read from an add for the new HD2 that the battery life is again increased by swithching over to GSM only! Look at the battery details quoted for the HD2 below.
Talk Time –
Up to 320 minutes for WCDMA
Up to 380 minutes for GSM
Standby Time –
Up to 390 hours for WCDMA
Up to 490 hours for GSM
I am now testing GSM only, and guess that the battery life is going to increase yet again, awesome..
this looks promising but T-Mobile has lots of 3G dead spots scattered around even a major city like NYC, meaning if I would set the phone to WCDMA only and put it in my pocket, I would not receive any calls or data when not in a 3G area.
gadjet said:
Hi all.
I have had my N1 for a little over a week now, and the battery life i guess is normal for a pda with this power etc, but i read over on modaco that by changing over the settings from CDMA preferred to CDMA only, actually increased the battery life loads! So I tested this and indeed it does nearly double my battery life..
I have also now read from an add for the new HD2 that the battery life is again increased by swithching over to GSM only! Look at the battery details quoted for the HD2 below.
Talk Time –
Up to 320 minutes for WCDMA
Up to 380 minutes for GSM
Standby Time –
Up to 390 hours for WCDMA
Up to 490 hours for GSM
I am now testing GSM only, and guess that the battery life is going to increase yet again, awesome..
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u do know that with WCDMA you will get far better speeds than just plain old gsm right?
Setting it to WCDMA only will actually drain your battery faster if you are in an area with poor 3G. So only use it when you have optimal 3G conditions.
Amon_RA said:
Setting it to WCDMA only will actually drain your battery faster if you are in an area with poor 3G. So only use it when you have optimal 3G conditions.
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Faster yes. But noway worth the hassle of toggling it on or off. Unless you don't like to charge your phone each night then its not a prob. I use 3G/wifi,music,games and my battery easily survives a day or two.
Cheers..
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Setting it to WCDMA only will actually drain your battery faster if you are in an area with poor 3G. So only use it when you have optimal 3G conditions.
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Thanks for that Amon_RA, and a personel thanks for for RA-nexus-v1.5.3
I guess my phone usage is split 50/50, i.e 50% at work with a max 3G signal, and 50% at home with a weak 3G signal. I definately saw a massive increase in my battery life when on WCDMA only, so changing to GSM should benefit me even more. I live in the UK and am on the Orange network, overall the 3G coverage is not to bad.
I will report back after a couple of days testing.
Good news for me: there is basically no 3G coverage here so guess I'll be GSM all the time. Getting my N1 this afternoon.
Is it just me or am I not seeing a 200% increase? 20% maybe.
how do i actually choose which band to use? been trying and didnt see any options.
in your dialer dial *#*#4636#*#* then go to phone information > set it to WCDMA only (3G only). Default is WCDMA preferred.
thanks! guessed i learned something new today
Hi again everyone..
Well one day into testing GSM only, what a difference in the battery life..
This is my default setting definately when on holiday to save on power, and when I am not using data roaming. But the speed difference is bummer, i.e GSM only gives me GPRS slow-ish speed, and not fast speeds that 3G gives you, if you are in a 3G area that is.
I have now found an easier way to switch bands, well at least between CDMA preferred and GSM only mode's, and you don't have to switch off your N1 or even put it into flight mode anymore.
1-Swap your band to GSM only mode via phone keypad.
2-When you need 3G speed if available just go to settings/wireless & network settings/mobile network settings, and untick box to use only 2G networks.This re activates the CDMA preffered mode.
3-When you want to go back to GSM only mode, re tick 2G box as detailed in 2 above.
If you use GSM, and by extension GPRS, most if not all of your calls will go to voicemail. 2G only means your phone can do either voice OR data at a particular time - eg If you're browsing or reading messages or syncing you wont get calls. Conversely if you're talking on the phone you can't browse the web. This is why 3g is so much better - you can do both simultaneously.
You may already be aware of this but I thought I'd mention it just in case you weren't.
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ScaredyCat said:
If you use GSM, and by extension GPRS, most if not all of your calls will go to voicemail. 2G only means your phone can do either voice OR data at a particular time - eg If you're browsing or reading messages or syncing you wont get calls. Conversely if you're talking on the phone you can't browse the web. This is why 3g is so much better - you can do both simultaneously.
You may already be aware of this but I thought I'd mention it just in case you weren't.
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actually when android receives or makes a call on EDGE / GPRS it automatically turns off data to allow the call to get through.
This is a must solution if you are on AT&T, with the phone only being gsm capable for me it has increased my battery life by I say 20-30% and going into settings also and switching to only use 2g networks works amazing.
I wonder if there will ever be an AT&T nexus AT&T thats what all my family use..
-Charlie
melterx12 said:
actually when android receives or makes a call on EDGE / GPRS it automatically turns off data to allow the call to get through.
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AT&T doesn't support this (or didn't a year ago when I last looked into it) for incoming calls, so be careful if you're using AT&T (of course, if you're on AT&T there's no other option).
T-Mobile supports this, so it'll work fine.
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in your dialer dial *#*#4636#*#* then go to phone information > set it to WCDMA only (3G only). Default is WCDMA preferred.
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thanks alot for this code it helped
I dont know why everyone is treating this GSM vs 3G battery life stuff as if its something new..
Those who remember, the iPhone 3G suffered from the very same issue...
wooo hooo!
Poll in..
Finished testing..
GSM only mode is a definate winner as far as battery life goes, but the down side side is the slow data speed side, and the fact that you can't recieve calls when say surfing, or when data is being downloaded in back ground, it just goes to voice mail... Try it.. change to GSM mode, phone yourself via a land line while surfing etc and see your calls go to voice mail.
The easy switching via the 2G mode does help, and you can swap as and when required, but as alot of my current N1 apps connect to the web for updates etc (beautiful widgets for weather updates, e-mail checking etc) I will stick to CDMA only mode for now, and just use GSM mode when I go on me hols abroad when I don't use data at all.
gadjet said:
Finished testing..
GSM only mode is a definate winner as far as battery life goes, but the down side side is the slow data speed side, and the fact that you can't recieve calls when say surfing, or when data is being downloaded in back ground, it just goes to voice mail... Try it.. change to GSM mode, phone yourself via a land line while surfing etc and see your calls go to voice mail.
The easy switching via the 2G mode does help, and you can swap as and when required, but as alot of my current N1 apps connect to the web for updates etc (beautiful widgets for weather updates, e-mail checking etc) I will stick to CDMA only mode for now, and just use GSM mode when I go on me hols abroad when I don't use data at all.
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Receiving calls during 2D data transfer is a feature that needs to be supported by your mobile network. Your mobile operator probably needs to implement a Gs interface and change the Network Operation Mode. That way your phone can be paged during 2G data transfer and you'll be able to receive the call.
I just got around to downloading the speed test app to see how fast me x2 is and after the first test here is what I got:
Ping:19ms
Down:4989kbps
Up:703kbps
Now I dont know much but something tells me that up speed is a little low.
Im on cm7 with the Mash up script and wifi on.
Will the numbers be different if Im on 3G? Are these numbers even remotely good?
Many thanks to all!!
Apps aren't always accurate. I'm not sure what you meant will it be different if I'm on 3G? Wifi and 3G will always differ, wifi is much faster depending on your provider, where 3g can lag at times
On 3g I usually hit 3d and 1 up
Where wifi I'm like 25 down 8 up out there about.
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Your ping time and up/down speeds can vary even when connected to the same tower or wifi network depending the congestion at any given time on the bandwidth provider's network, among other factors.
Your seemingly low upload speed could be attributed to other devices on the wifi network using the upload bandwidth allotted by the isp at the time you performed the speed test. It may also be the case the connection supplying the wifi network is 6Mbps down/1Mbps up. Your upload and download speeds while on wifi can only be as good as the connection from the isp regardless of the settings on your device or how many other devices are on the network.
For what it's worth, I have a Verizon 3G Network Extender plugged into my wireless router, meaning that both my WiFi and the Network Extender can only supply a connection that at best is only as fast as my cable modem's connection to Comcast. Eliminating all conflicting variables (e.g. no other devices on the network when running tests), my Droid X2's 3G upload and download speeds are consistently slower than when I'm on wifi.
19ms is a pretty good ping time, btw.
Lots of useful info. Thanks guys!
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I have also been curious and suspicious of my 3g data speeds. When I was stock and rooted with 2.3.4 I would get on average 20-30 kilobytes/sec in my house with a poorer signnal of -87dbm this is using speed test and checking the down up speeds with the mobile network app that puts the speeds up on the notification bar. I used that to monitor downloads and web browsing speeds which agreed well with speed test. In a good coverage area -67dbm I achieved pretty consistently 130-230 kilobytes/sec. I am now running eclipse 2.0.4 with CMDA build.prop edit to increase 3g speeds. I ve only noticed a doubling of speed when in -87dbma area nut otherwise I cannot achieve anyhigher than 300 kilobytes/sec. I wonder could my radio be weak or bad? I thought 3g speeds would but up to ~500 or greater in really good coverage areas.
MunkinDrunky said:
I have also been curious and suspicious of my 3g data speeds. When I was stock and rooted with 2.3.4 I would get on average 20-30 kilobytes/sec in my house with a poorer signnal of -87dbm this is using speed test and checking the down up speeds with the mobile network app that puts the speeds up on the notification bar. I used that to monitor downloads and web browsing speeds which agreed well with speed test. In a good coverage area -67dbm I achieved pretty consistently 130-230 kilobytes/sec. I am now running eclipse 2.0.4 with CMDA build.prop edit to increase 3g speeds. I ve only noticed a doubling of speed when in -87dbma area nut otherwise I cannot achieve anyhigher than 300 kilobytes/sec. I wonder could my radio be weak or bad? I thought 3g speeds would but up to ~500 or greater in really good coverage areas.
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I never considered radio quality when I looked at my speeds. Exactly how one would go about checking ones radio quality is far beyond me. Its definitely something worth exploring (in my opinion)
Right I would also need to test other 3g speeds on a different phone on the same networko in the same area to rule out network end probs. Plus I got my DROID x2 used so that might be it there. Also if the radio heats up from persistent use that might reduce efficiency and lower speeds.
Those are fairly decent speeds. For a mobile device, that's about what I would expect. Your ping, 19ms, means that it takes .019 second to reach from your device to the Verizon servers, then to the servers of the sites you are accessing, and then finally back to your phone. Anything less than 80ms is considered good, so you have an excellent ping.
And to clarify, your upload speed will never be as high as your download speed. It's a throttling mechanism used by all (and I do mean all) internet providers of any kind to prevent things like hogging their bandwidth with torrents and the like. It's essentially an industry standard.
any one knows how can i disable 3.5G/3.7G/ HSDPA /HSUPA/ HSPA data connection , i want only Normal 3G data connectoin
because i already have poor internet connection due to network operator policie , and my subsecribed bandwidth , so my phone just, use HSPA but no speed is needed , so no battery drain is needed .
so i can save battery when i am surfing the internet
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You won't save any battery by that.
And I seriously doubt you wish to use 3G only. 3G is very slow, compared to HSPA speeds. I do not think any of the operators actually limits the speed to 3G speed (384 Kbit/s, for comparison, HSDPA is 14 Mbit/s).
i know that
Someguyfromhell said:
You won't save any battery by that.
And I seriously doubt you wish to use 3G only. 3G is very slow, compared to HSPA speeds. I do not think any of the operators actually limits the speed to 3G speed (384 Kbit/s, for comparison, HSDPA is 14 Mbit/s).
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i know that ,but, my network operator already have very poor connection , no more than 512Kbit/s , i use it only for chat on mobile data ,
Someguyfromhell said:
You won't save any battery by that.
And I seriously doubt you wish to use 3G only. 3G is very slow, compared to HSPA speeds. I do not think any of the operators actually limits the speed to 3G speed (384 Kbit/s, for comparison, HSDPA is 14 Mbit/s).
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btw, i have a question...: does ''use only 2g networks'' saves some battery?? b'cuz i activate that if iam over my limt, bcuz my provider reduce my surfspeed to 64kbits/s and i thought, that didnt affect my surf speed and saves battery?? right or not?
thanks in advance
Using 2G does save battery in some cases. In city areas, it is not noticeable. From my own experience, I can say, that if I use 2G, the signal is strong all the time (operator's 2G antenna radius is larger than 3G), however with 3G, it goes up and down at my home. If signal is strong all the time, phone has to use less battery to keep connected. If signal is weak, phone needs to use more battery to keep the connection.
Long story short - Yes, it can save battery, however in city conditions, it is hard to notice.
bejunk said:
btw, i have a question...: does ''use only 2g networks'' saves some battery?? b'cuz i activate that if iam over my limt, bcuz my provider reduce my surfspeed to 64kbits/s and i thought, that didnt affect my surf speed and saves battery?? right or not?
thanks in advance
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yeah you are right.. 2G network consumes very less battery than 3G
I'm on MIUI dev. At my place the Jio service is pretty poor. I get the max. speed of 100KBps throughout the day, and only during the nights I am able to reach upto 3or4MBps.
But, what I've seen is that sometimes in between, my cell connects to some other Cell Tower (Jio's only). I can tell you this because the network strength is always full at my place but when it gets switched to the other Tower's signal, the strength is around 40-50%. And, suddenly the speed gets boosted upto 2MBps from 100KBps, for the brief 10secs. Then again the network strength goes full and the speed comes back to its normal.
So, what I think, is that there's another cell tower which is farther then this one but has less no. of users and hence better speeds.
So, is there anyway that I can switch to that network permanently. I've read about setting the phone's modem to a particular freq..
So, guys tell me what I can do.
TL; DR How can I use the other cell tower of my network which has better internet speeds but has weaker network strength.
KabirKalsi said:
Network Signal Guru! Download this app and select band 40 from LTE settings
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Tested it. Works as it says, but the speed is still same. Hell, Im getting speed around 100kbps+ on Band 5, while on Band40 the speed is around 60kbps. Although the network strength is full in both bands.
Anyway, thanks for your reply. It must be problem with Jio services only.