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Hi
Can anybody confirm if sound is wired into the main connector, I currently plug into the headphone / microphone jack plug to get TomTom sounds in the car, but it would be much more convenient to insert just one connector instead of two.
Has the connector wiring diagram been published anywhere?
Cheers
Justin
oops
I have just found it
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors
Justin
Good luck!
Hi
The wiring diagram from
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors is incorrect for the Himalya.
I only managed to get sound from one channel, and grounding pin 19 did not switch off the internal speaker.
Does anybody know of another source of the pinout for the connector.
I could buy a http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=108730 but that seems expensive.
Cheers
Justin
Justin,
More than one source confirmed the pinout of the connector is correct for the Himalaya.
Are you sure you did not get thing wrong?
Maybe some other threads (key word "carkit" or "car kit") are of interest for you.
YES sound is fed to the bottom connector
BUT dependent of who you speak with (ie which rom theyre using):
- all sound (both in-call phone and pda)
- in-call phone only
Unfortunately my carkit (O2 XDA II as sold by Expansys) only let me hear in-call phone sound. My rom is the T-Mobile 1.60.00 (1.60.36 ext rom).
Hi edsub
After posting I read about the problem with sound only comming out of the bottom connector when In a call, I didn't try this. Hopefully a later ROM will fix this issue. Until then I will use the headset jack plug.
Cheers
Justin
justinp said:
I only managed to get sound from one channel
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I have the same problem with the original CarKit of the XDA I.
So this could be a general problem....
Stefan
I used to have stereo from the bottomconnector from my XDA 1, but not from my MDA 2...
As far as imknow Edsub is correct, only in-call audio works for now with most ROM's...
Getting all-audio through the speakers seems to be a rare story...
@johan: It sure is a rare story. Especially from the stories that seem to imply that one it getting all sound thru the bottom connector, I only got feedback from one person that claimed this was the case for rom 1.60.00 in combination with the T-Mobile MDAII carkit.
Which makes it even stranger because that same rom is the one I am using (and only having in-call phone audio) . . .
:?:
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@johan: It sure is a rare story. Especially from the stories that seem to imply that one it getting all sound thru the bottom connector, I only got feedback from one person that claimed this was the case for rom 1.60.00 in combination with the T-Mobile MDAII carkit.
Which makes it even stranger because that same rom is the one I am using (and only having in-call phone audio) . . .
:?:
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Rare (Eng.) = Zeldzaam (NL.) :roll:
I only read one story of a guy who said Tomtom work through the speaker, i'm afraid the was another mixup about waht speaker. The internal one or not....
According to Mocki on www.ppc-welt.info two pins are important:
pin19 should be grounded
pin9 should be UNconnected
This situation makes the T-Mobile carkit behave like wished:
When there is sound output (no matter what source):
1. radio is muted
2. sound goes via bottom connector to carkit-speakers (or car-audio line-in)
Does anyone know how pin 9 is connected inside the O2 XDAII carkit???
Help - can see any of it!
Hi
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors just gives me XML/XSL errors, and I cant speak German - really could do with a wiring diagram for the bottom connector.
I have Carcomm car cradles, Nokia Bluetooth car kits (kinda of works now) and a very neat bluetooth head set. I want the cradle to send audio to an aux input on the car stereo so I can play MP3's from the 512 SD card I just got!!
I can drill a hole in the bottom of the carcomm and attach a 3.5mm jack but it would be much better if I could use the connector
Ta!!
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JONTYB said:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors just gives me XML/XSL errors, and I cant speak German - really could do with a wiring diagram for the bottom connector.
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If you use an other browser than the Internet Explorer (e g. Mozilla) you ´ll be able to see the page....
I made 2 Screenshots of the important part. Hope it helps you....
HTH
Stefan
Wiring for bottom connector
Hii
Thanks for that - something to do this weekend now!!
:lol:
JB
Hi
If that works it will be great, I'm not going to try it until someone else confirms it works as I need to get a hardware guy to do the soldering for me.
So if any of you are going to try it, please remember to post back here.
Cheers
JustinP
Will these work with the 9090?
.125-inch minijack plug -- so do I need something like the 2.5mm Headset/3.5mm Audio Headphone Adapter shown at http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Pr...t_ID=PPCPADPT16
or this http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Pr...t_ID=PPCPADPT15
.125 inches though is only 3.175 mm so I'm confused/worried.
Thanks.
Doug
None of ur links opened for me. however I got this 2.5 to 3.5 converter for headphones and I use sony headsets the one u mentioned. there r two adapters on this site for pda2k/9090.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=PPCPADPT16
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=PPCPADPT15
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None of ur links opened for me. however I got this 2.5 to 3.5 converter for headphones and I use sony headsets the one u mentioned. there r two adapters on this site for pda2k/9090.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=PPCPADPT16
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=PPCPADPT15
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Thanks. I'm still a bit confused, which one do I need? Or if they both work, what's the functional difference.
I've only tried the headset that comes with it briefly, but it's not bad - and it's stereo.
Thanks.
Doug
I've just ordered from this website. Its a tonne cheaper and charges $5 only for shipping.
http://pc-mobile.net/xda.htm
The headset adapter will work for both XDA, XDA2 and XDA 2 mini. unless of course you need the answer button function.
:lol: :lol:
ant said:
I've just ordered from this website. Its a tonne cheaper and charges $5 only for shipping.
http://pc-mobile.net/xda.htm
The headset adapter will work for both XDA, XDA2 and XDA 2 mini. unless of course you need the answer button function.
:lol: :lol:
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I presume you got the $5.65 ones. I've also just found out that the M2000 and presumably all Blue Angels have reversed polarity and a standard adapter won't work, but someone named Dade says:
"If you plug in the adapter to the M2000 and pull it out slightly (About 2mm) then you start getting sound from both channels. The problem is that the plug keeps going back in and the sound returns to mono.
The solution is simple. Get a BIC biro and take the small ink tube out of it. Cut a piece of the clear tube about 2mm long and slide this over the 2.5mm plug. This stops the pug going in too far. (See my photo)
Im sure that this wont cause a problem with the handset but as per usual do this at your own risk."
I'll give that a try once I got the adapters.
:lol:
Works like a charm!! Tested to work on Qtek 1010, 2020 and S100. minus the answer button and mic. of course. but no bic pen method needed. :lol: :lol:
My Sony EX71 Headphones
Hi, I desoldered my headphones & resoldered them onto my MDA III headset, works perfect & sounds great.... 8)
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chris.k said:
Hi, I desoldered my headphones & resoldered them onto my MDA III headset, works perfect & sounds great.... 8)
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Hmmm I can't say i want to "mutilate" my relatively expensive EX71 phones just to fit into my XDA 11s. I still need the phones for my Sony NW HD3 Mp3 player!!!
For a few ££ I've gone for the alternative fix which is getting the 4 conductor PPC (PPCPADPT15) 2.5mm jack to 3.5mm stereo headphone jack. Job done!
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Hi, I desoldered my headphones & resoldered them onto my MDA III headset, works perfect & sounds great.... 8)
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I was thinking of doing that. Did you solder them at the mic, in the earbuds, or inline?
EX 71
hi Given,
i desoldered the origional headphones from the insides of the ear pieces,then carefully opened up my ex71's and soldered the wire ends directly to the 71's.
the 71's will come apart,just small amount of glue holding them together.but carefully does it.& make sure the phasing is correct,ie + to + & - to -.
hope this helps, chris....
Hi all,
I finally got bored and went one stage further. I desoldered the earphones from my original headset and wired an in line headphone socket (3.5mm) so that I can pug any headphones I like into the headset.
But best of all I can plug in my irock FM transmitter and use it to relay all the audio from satnav/mp3/movies ets to my car stereo and as the microphone is still on the cable I can use it for handsfree...Hooray!!!
Cheers
Pointy
hi pointything mind giving instruction on how you did it? best with pictures Thanks!
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chris.k said:
hi Given,
i desoldered the origional headphones from the insides of the ear pieces,then carefully opened up my ex71's and soldered the wire ends directly to the 71's.
the 71's will come apart,just small amount of glue holding them together.but carefully does it.& make sure the phasing is correct,ie + to + & - to -.
hope this helps, chris....
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I've just done this as well. First remove the rubber ear piece.
You need to open up the ear piece by sliding a knife around the edge of the rubbery stuff nearest the ear. This is the same bit that forms the cable shroud. With mine, there was glue for about 1/3rd of the rim.
Then you need to prise the metal speaker out of the plastic. I did this with a knife. Snip off the wires for the Sony leads. Thread the wire from the headset through the cable shroud. With my MDA Vario headset this cable has a woven outer sleeve. I wrapped that in a little sellotape to stop it from unwinding as I pushed it through.
Once the wire is passed through, tie a knot in it to give some shock protection. Trim the ends of the wire and spread the two ends apart. With the Sony earpiece wires one was green and the other was bare copper. The headset wires were red/green and green so I joined the green to the green and the red/green to the bare copper terminal. A small soldering iron will help.
I soldered a socket into the headphones supplied with the BA, but found it gave unequal sound.. one side was muffled. As such, i bought one of the ones listed above.. a lot less messsy too :-D
Does anyone know if one can use any 2.5mm earplug handsfree with the XDA Mini S? The one supplied is difficult to carry lots of wires, would like to have a monaural one. Has anyone tried any? Kindly let me know. Thanks.
I have been looking for the same earphone since i bought the item on JAN06, till now I still cant find a compatible one.
That will be helpful if anyone know which is the best headphone with microphone.Not the Bluetooth one!
Thanks!
ebay Adapter eventually works
Hi there,
I was also looking for a good headset fromt he beginning on, the issue might be solved if I can install the A2DP software (will try later), but a nice wired headset would still be nice.
My favorite would be the ones SonyEricsson is shipping with the music phones.
I actually tested a 2.5mm adapter with cord and speakerpice (with clip) plus adapter for 3,5mm, which would be perfect. One was for Nokia, one for Motorola - both are NOT compatible with the HTCs!
Lately I saw a shop selling the same adapter specifically for HTC devices, so the problem might be solved.
Also I saw 2 wired 2,5mm stereo headsets from Jabra on the US website, they are for sale there but NOT in Europe. If these would work, they would for sure be of very good quality.
Anyone tested these?
Found one
I found one listed on Ebay under HTC Wizard. Its item number 9716253639, seller's name is 5starcommunication. Looks quite cool and they will mail it world wide. Will take sometime before it reaches India. But if anyone in the US orders and tries do let us know. Thanks.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9716253639&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
I bought a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter from Expansys UK and it works just fine. Sorry - no part number on me, but it should be easy to find on their web site.
Hope this helps
bloney said:
I bought a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter from Expansys UK and it works just fine. Sorry - no part number on me, but it should be easy to find on their web site.
Hope this helps
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Are you able to work with the MIC?
waiho said:
bloney said:
I bought a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter from Expansys UK and it works just fine. Sorry - no part number on me, but it should be easy to find on their web site.
Hope this helps
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Are you able to work with the MIC?
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I use it for headphones only (senheiser PX200 which sound great with the Wizard!), so not sure if they have mic connected or not. Sorry.
Get the adapter at radioshack.. there r tons n tons of them for $3.. i got one n it works like charm..
with/out mic
I wonder if the ones from Radioshack have a mic in the wire?
I have an adapter 2,5 to 3,5mm with GREAT sound quality, however without microphone in the adapter, thus I always need to unplug the adapter and take off the headphones to answer a call - sucks!
As mentioned so far i Only saw one adapter on ebay WITH a microphone in the adapter piece (and clip on the back) - but do not know how it performs...
http://cgi.ebay.de/XDA-Mini-MDA-Com...06652399QQcategoryZ123195QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
You could also try this one ...
Handsfree and Headphone Adapter
Still no earpiece...
Sigh... still no proper in ear headset (monaural) in sight... :?
2.5 mm to 3.5 mm adapters at Radio Shack
Beware of the Radio Shack adapters. They stick out and are easy to catch on a doorway as you walk through it. I did so a few weeks ago and the headphone jack no longer worked. The adapter male end bent back and damaged the phone female socket. The result was very quiet sound from the headphone jack, totally unusable for phone or music.
I sent the phone back to T-Mobile and they very kindly sent me a replacement. I bought a new Radio Shack 2.5mm male to 3.5 mm female adapter and the same day proceeded to catch it on another doorway, bending back the male plug, and damaging the phone female headphone jack. No sound again from the headphone jack. I will stay away from the headphone adapters from now on.
Phone speaker not working after using headphones - No sound
I had a similar problem (not the same). After using a 2.5 to 3.5 mm adapter my phone speakers and the mic didn't work anymore. I was about to send the device in, when I read about a solution (I think it was in XDA-Dev somewhere).
You'll have to gently move the headphone jack forward and back, twisting it a litte or even better use some compressed air blowing into the jack. It works best, if you to take out the battery and blow from the back.
My speakers work again, but the same thing happens now and then. It seems there is some switch inside the headphone/mic jack, which doesn't go back. That only happens when I use the adapter.
I realize that this is an old thread, but here is an idea for you. As far as I know, pretty much any 2.5mm headset should work. I don't use it for my phone personally, but I recently purchased a Plantronics Gamecon X20 headset for my Xbox 360 after my old one broke. Since it has a plain 2.5mm jack on the end, I thought I would plug it into my phone to see how well it worked. The answer, pretty well apparently. My wife said that it was really clear and, likewise, she sounded really clear on my end. It's going to be a little larger than the ones that have the mic hanging down inline with the wire, but on the other hand, since it's a boom mic the sound quality should be superior with less noise. I haven't tried it for listening to music so I can't vouch for the quality there, but since you are wanting a monaural headset I rather doubt that is relevant anyways. The headset was only $20 at GameStop and they had a used one for $10.
two-zero said:
I had a similar problem (not the same). After using a 2.5 to 3.5 mm adapter my phone speakers and the mic didn't work anymore. I was about to send the device in, when I read about a solution (I think it was in XDA-Dev somewhere).
You'll have to gently move the headphone jack forward and back, twisting it a litte or even better use some compressed air blowing into the jack. It works best, if you to take out the battery and blow from the back.
My speakers work again, but the same thing happens now and then. It seems there is some switch inside the headphone/mic jack, which doesn't go back. That only happens when I use the adapter.
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In your case, I would say that sounds like a bad adapter. I routinely use one in mine and don't have that problem. It's one of those nasty stick adapters though, so you have to be careful with them. I've seen some cable type adapters for not too much so you might look into one of those instead.
Found info which might help
HERE IS AN/THE ANSWER.
My WIZA200 and Sony P900 phone the mic headsets are compatable, even the answer button works. If you cant find what your looking for under the flavour WIZa or HTC etc... just look for what you need as a P900 type and you will be sorted.
I just checked the pinouts and this answers the very much asked question... what are the pinouts.... here they are....
http://pinouts.ru/CellularPhones-P-W/sonyericssson_headset_pinout.shtml
FOR WIZA AND SONY P900 >>>> 2.5mm 4 pole jack: PIN1 LEFT+, PIN2 RIGHT+, PIN3 MIC+, SHIELD(PIN4) GROUND. I just checked with multimeter and to get call answer pin3 mic and shield must short to signal the press of the answer button.
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Just for reference Nokia 2.5mm 4pole jack is very odd... this is how they do it.
http://pinouts.ru/CellularPhones-Nokia/nokia_headset_pinout.shtml
on 4pole 2.5mm: 1=speaker+(positive) ### 2=mic+ ### 3=speaker -(negative) ### pin4 = mic - ###short mic+ and mic - to answer call
on 3pole 2.5mm: 1=speaker+(positive) 2=mic+ 3=shield(ground-negative) ### to answer call short speaker and shield.
See how they change their minds... first on 4 pole jacks answer call was on mic side short, then it goes on 3 pole jacks to short the speaker and ground to answer call... can these guys not make up their minds. Grrrr... totally baffling logic in this design, escept they can keep you buying specialised gear for each phone
Glad to see Sony and HTC used a more logical system and seem to stick to it. I suspect the HTC Touch HD 3.5mm is wired the same as the Wiza 2.5mm system just 3.5mm jack not 2.5mm jack.
Someone should make a 2.5mm 4pole to 3.5mm 4 pole converter to use old cherised headsets on the HTC Touch HD... know of any, anyone?
kull said:
Sigh... still no proper in ear headset (monaural) in sight... :?
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Another solution.....
I know this might sound odd but a simple solution is get your stereo headset & mic thing and cut the right earpiece lead off...
Now you may have to strip the wire a bit and wrap a piece of insulating tape to stop the wires inside touching, which will cause problems (crackling or loss of audio on remaining speaker most likely). Once the wires are safely insulated away, youll have what you are seeking, a monaural one earpiece mic heaset... saves having to buy one that your finding hard to do.
Seems a shame to sacrifice a stereo headset down to mono, but if thats your poison, go for it.
pinouts.ru is the shiz
Get out the soldering iron and make a frankenstien. I grafted a 3.5 female to my old nokia's pop port so I could hook it to my stereo (before I got a BT adapter) and to my amplified helmet speakers (that were sorced from a computer speaker set.) Before I lost the phone I was planning to add a 2.5 mono female socket for a lil clip-on mic I have. Point being, it's only 3 signals and a ground, should be able to come up with something.
ts worth having a go
Yeah having a go is definately worth it. I just utilised the pinouts.ru stuff and a bit of personal common sense knowledge of the wirings and managed to make myself a 3.5 touch hd 4 pole jack into a 3.5 3 pole jack which works ofr my aircraft. I can now fly and make calls through my pilots headset. It shows it can work. You arent dealing with any dangerous voltages... its all piddly "put it on your tongue and you wont get hurt" voltages... speakers and mics... all easy to work out. Worth having a go.
whether I am "search" disabled or there is no info about audio 2.5 jack pin outs.
will somebody give a link or provide connection diagram for mic, answer/mute button and audio outputs?
my aim is to make my own cable to connect the pda to car stereo to listen mp3s and also place a remote mic and switch somewhere in the car.
its done!
thanks a lot to whom gave me info about this topic. Here is what I have done today;
I bought an after market 2,5mm stereo headphones with mic and switch. it was 5 YTL equvalent around $3,5. I had the chance to try it with my qtek9100, but there was very poor sound level and quality, I didnt even try the mic. Actually I bought it just to get one 2.5mm 4 conductor jack.
I tried to make a drawing how the connections were, marked as "before". It is so wierd wiring that I have no idea which kind of device uses this kind of connection.
After modification, as you will see, instead of soldering the existing ear pieces, I soldered a female 3,5mm jack, so that I can connect whether a stereo headphones to use it as hands free or a casette adapter to use with car stereo and listen to mp3s(which in this case, when I receive or make a call, it will mute the music and give other sides voice to car speakers). Ive tested both possibilities and it works quite fine.
I hope this helps to ones that are willing to make this kind of adapter themselves.
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Thank U for contribution!
canstb said:
Ive tested both possibilities and it works quite fine.
I hope this helps to ones that are willing to make this kind of adapter themselves.
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I want to give a more precise definition to jack pinouts.
AFAIK pin 4 - left channel, 3 - right. So U have reversed stereo sound or wrong picture female connector.
Hi,
I want a headset for my Wizard that meet the following requirements:
1. SUPER sound quality.
2. 2.5mm jack - I don't want an adapter.
3. Prefered Mic.
4. Prefered Volume control.
Can anybody post any useful items??
P.S. : Does anybody sell original Wizard headsets with Mic (mine is O2 Branded and I live in the UK)????
Thanks,
Mohammad
i have a nokia hs-16 headset and i'm very enjoy it hs-16 has three different cable to connect to 3,5mm, 2,5mm and 2,5mm nokia jack. i used a 2,5mm nokia cable and mic works good with my wizard it only doesn't have volume control...
ps. sound quality is very good for me
Hey, Thanks
How does the sound quality compare to the original headset? and Where from did you buy it?
Cheers
well stupid answer, but have you not just tried the o2 shop mohammed, thats where i got my last one from, about four months ago
No, I haven't. but I will give it a try and repost the result here.
Cheers
well, I searched in O2 UK shop but I found only blueooth headsets for Wizard, can you provide me a link for the ones you got?
Thanks
Mohammad
i never found mine online, i went into the o2 store, i have checked online and ,like you , have only found bluetooth headsets. I have found a link here though
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/10097.htm
it isnt the original o2 one, but it is Genuine i-mate JAM Stereo Personal Handsfree Kit
Yes, I've seen it.. I even found the original O2 ones, but the link is in my other computer..
but I am now searching for a Super quality 2.5mm headsets..
The only thing I saw in the market was the miniBuds Boxwave's headsets, but I don't know if anybody tried them?? are there any other brands?
I have a T-Mobile MDA and my headphones went dead a month or two ago. I just bought a replacement from e-bay. A simple search will bring many results. I think I paid about $5.
http://search.ebay.com/search/searc...ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1&fsoo=1
I bought from a seller called sami809
HS-47
I've just bought a Nokia stereo headset HS-47. It has a 2.5 mm jack, so I one can use it without adapter. The microphone and the answer button both do there job, but there is no volume control. The quality of the equipment is good, but the sound quality isn't that good. For a super sound I think you have to buy a HS-16.
bought what a seller told was an ome headset. got questions: im i suppose to hear from both left and right ear buds, and im i suppose to able to end or start accept call with the button next to the volume button onthe headset. wonder if i have open circuits on the headset jack on my wizard.
If you have the right headset, then you are supposed to hear from both left and right ear buds, answer incoming calls and end conversation by pressing the button next to the volume control.
If these are not the case, it doesn't necessarily mean that something is wrong with your phone or the headset. It might be that they are not compatible. That would mean the one you got isn't an OEM piece, or maybe it's OEM, but intended for a different device.
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collwatt said:
bought what a seller told was an ome headset. got questions: im i suppose to hear from both left and right ear buds, and im i suppose to able to end or start accept call with the button next to the volume button onthe headset. wonder if i have open circuits on the headset jack on my wizard.
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Maybe the headset is the wrong color, no wait I know your phone hates you and is secretly plotting to drive you mad and have you committed to an insane asylem and then join with my phone in its plot to take over the world. or it could just be as simple as there is something wrong with the headset who knows about these things??
i would expect such flaming wise crack from a senior memeber ; )