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Hey guys, i thought i saw some time ago a way to be able to make and receive phone calls through the Sprint Evo View 4G? Am i right or was it the Flyer? now is this even possible at all?
I have made and received calls on my view using an app called grooveip.
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shotguntheenforcer said:
I have made and received calls on my view using an app called grooveip.
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Yes I am sure that works but i mean a native phone dialer like the Flyer(GSM) version? has anyone gotten this to work?
I don't believe so, Sprint disables voice on the network side, not handset side.
DevalB said:
I don't believe so, Sprint disables voice on the network side, not handset side.
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Are you sure? While attempting to port an Evo View ROM to the 3D I came across a line in the build.prop mentioning the disabling of the dialer. I Don't remember exact syntax at the moment but we ended up changing that value on the port to get the dialer working for the 3D.
I thinks it's possible to the point that I think I'm going to try it sometime in the near future lol.
Well on my View I have the native phone dialer enabled with icon and everything. The phone doesn't connect to anything, however. It just vibrates like it's connecting and timer runs like I'm connected tho I'm not. Therefore, I just use grooveip for phone calls. This looks promising tho since the native dialer is there. But my pessimism is telling me that this is next to impossible due to voice being disabled on Sprints end as stated by a previous poster.
If I have just the data plan, then I only get data? I send and receive sms/mms just fine. Does Sprint offer a voice package for the View or one at least compatible?
EDIT:: I actually pay for unlimited SMS/MMS with my tablet plan. So ignore that part, but since messaging uses the same 1xRTT network as voice, I don't imagine it would be too hard to get voice working on this thing.
As far as I'm aware, the hard part of getting the View to make "native" phone calls, is the fact that the ESN for the device needs to be associated with the a plan that supports voice, and Sprint, as a corporate policy, won't do this. Whilst I suppose it is possible that a very, very friendly CSR could do this for you, I wouldn't like to bet on it.
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Dave
I believe the system blocks certain plans from being applied with certain ESNs. Things were different before I believe but not now.
I did manage to get a phone call out from my view to my 3d. As soon as i answered it on my 3d both lines disconnected. If I were a gambling man, which I am, I'd say you guys are correct in the no calls to/from a tablet on Sprint.
My only remaining questions are why? The device is capable of sms and if I'm not mistaken still uses 1xRTT which is also what voice calls use?
mbobino said:
I did manage to get a phone call out from my view to my 3d. As soon as i answered it on my 3d both lines disconnected. If I were a gambling man, which I am, I'd say you guys are correct in the no calls to/from a tablet on Sprint.
My only remaining questions are why? The device is capable of sms and if I'm not mistaken still uses 1xRTT which is also what voice calls use?
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That's a good question, but I'm getting the majority of the folks who would use this device wouldn't want a 7" phone
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That's a good question, but I'm getting the majority of the folks who would use this device wouldn't want a 7" phone
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Well, I bought the device for a 20$/mo 7" phone, and I love it.
The reason sprint won't let you use voice is because they don't want the secret to get out that in reality you only need one PIPE (ie data plan) to do everything you need... they love selling you a 40$/mo voice plan.
Think about how LITTLE you use the phone (even if you use it a lot it doesn't cost as much as data) and think that they basically charge the same amount for the voice as for the data, on a standard smart phone.
Great cost/benefit ratio...
I really hate how you guys make so much sense... It really does suck though that if my 3d dies that I can't make a call from my view. I might call sprint and see if they can just share my minutes between both lines. I use a whopping 3 a month total.
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I'm using a View Port on my Evo 4g. Im using Dailer one.
Ok guys i got calls outgoing on my view an it works wel through a bluetooth headset. Im not using it on sprint. Anyone interested PM me. But i can't get calls to come into the device. When people call me it rings about 5 times then it goes into voicemail.
Ostthug2k said:
Ok guys i got calls outgoing on my view an it works wel through a bluetooth headset. Im not using it on sprint. Anyone interested PM me. But i can't get calls to come into the device. When people call me it rings about 5 times then it goes into voicemail.
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Does it really work well? Whenever I use bt i get very delayed and crackling voice... I can hear about 30% of what is said through all the crackling. It is unusable...
I followed the build.prop in the guide... any ideas?
sdge said:
Does it really work well? Whenever I use bt i get very delayed and crackling voice... I can hear about 30% of what is said through all the crackling. It is unusable...
I followed the build.prop in the guide... any ideas?
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Mine works perfect,? sounds great! Are you using the native Dialer, or grooveip?
Im using the native phone app. But i cant receive incoming calls. Do you receive incoming calls?
sdge said:
Does it really work well? Whenever I use bt i get very delayed and crackling voice... I can hear about 30% of what is said through all the crackling. It is unusable...
I followed the build.prop in the guide... any ideas?
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I called Sprint yesterday or the day before because I was having connectivity issues which gave me an idea. The Sprint reps (all 7 of them) had no idea that the Evo View was a tablet, they kept telling me to go into the dialer and dial in EPST codes and stuff which I kept telling them was impossible since I didn't have a "Phone" app to get to the dialer from. I finally got someone who did realize that the dialer is inaccessible because its a tablet and not a phone and told me to use the dialer codes in the calculator app substituting hash/pound/# for exclamation/!
My idea being, with CDMA Workshop/QPST/EPST you should be able to swap ESN's (illegal as hell so I don't recommend it nor will I share how to do it) and get the tablet up on the voice network.
As for the quote above, with your view in landscape, open the calculator and type in !!3282! = and you should get EPST. You will need your MSL code! It'll ask you for View Mode and Edit mode to which you'll want to edit the settings. Go to Advanced and make the following changes::
- EVRC-B from Disabled to Enabled
- Home Orig from EVRC to EVRC-B
- Roam Orig from EVRC to EVRC-B
What this will do is change the voice codec (kinda like .mp3 or .wma) for your incoming and outgoing voice quality to one that is newer, has better compression, and has better quality (Almost like the difference between .mpeg and .mp4).
All of this is based on my knowledge of CDMA Android phones. I'm not 100% that it will work on the view at all as mine isn't in front of me at the moment. Also, just to be safe, I'm not liable for damages if you screw up your phone. It's very easy to revert the settings back to factory defaults and doesn't require a full device wipe. I just don't remember the dialer code.
Anyways, best of luck to you in getting this working. I'm taking a break from the view (I really want Honeycomb but I'm too scared to flash radio.img and hboot.img to try and get it working) to work on my Evo 3D projects. I'll still be lurking though so I'm not gone for good. The View needs some more devs and hopefully I'll have something I like on my 3D enough to stick with it for a while.
mbobino said:
I called Sprint yesterday or the day before because I was having connectivity issues which gave me an idea. The Sprint reps (all 7 of them) had no idea that the Evo View was a tablet, they kept telling me to go into the dialer and dial in EPST codes and stuff which I kept telling them was impossible since I didn't have a "Phone" app to get to the dialer from. I finally got someone who did realize that the dialer is inaccessible because its a tablet and not a phone and told me to use the dialer codes in the calculator app substituting hash/pound/# for exclamation/!
My idea being, with CDMA Workshop/QPST/EPST you should be able to swap ESN's (illegal as hell so I don't recommend it nor will I share how to do it) and get the tablet up on the voice network.
As for the quote above, with your view in landscape, open the calculator and type in !!3282! = and you should get EPST. You will need your MSL code! It'll ask you for View Mode and Edit mode to which you'll want to edit the settings. Go to Advanced and make the following changes::
- EVRC-B from Disabled to Enabled
- Home Orig from EVRC to EVRC-B
- Roam Orig from EVRC to EVRC-B
What this will do is change the voice codec (kinda like .mp3 or .wma) for your incoming and outgoing voice quality to one that is newer, has better compression, and has better quality (Almost like the difference between .mpeg and .mp4).
All of this is based on my knowledge of CDMA Android phones. I'm not 100% that it will work on the view at all as mine isn't in front of me at the moment. Also, just to be safe, I'm not liable for damages if you screw up your phone. It's very easy to revert the settings back to factory defaults and doesn't require a full device wipe. I just don't remember the dialer code.
Anyways, best of luck to you in getting this working. I'm taking a break from the view (I really want Honeycomb but I'm too scared to flash radio.img and hboot.img to try and get it working) to work on my Evo 3D projects. I'll still be lurking though so I'm not gone for good. The View needs some more devs and hopefully I'll have something I like on my 3D enough to stick with it for a while.
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I did this on my View, but can only get Calls out, cannot get calls to come in while tab is idle or not in a call. If some one would look into the phone app. I'm sure we could fix it.
sdge said:
Well, I bought the device for a 20$/mo 7" phone, and I love it.
The reason sprint won't let you use voice is because they don't want the secret to get out that in reality you only need one PIPE (ie data plan) to do everything you need... they love selling you a 40$/mo voice plan.
Think about how LITTLE you use the phone (even if you use it a lot it doesn't cost as much as data) and think that they basically charge the same amount for the voice as for the data, on a standard smart phone.
Great cost/benefit ratio...
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Don't get me wrong, I love it too!
Hey all, I've been following all the postings about making calls via wifi and data networks to save on minutes as well as just to use wifi connections instead,. I got sipdroid and googlevoice setup as well as google voice callback,.. got the options set right in everything and it's partially working,.. what I'm finding is my voice to others is coming across very very very quiet and when I hear them it's very very very lagged and broken up. Can anyone assist with how to tweak the settings so my voice is not so quiet and the person on the other end isn't so broken up and lagged? I'll hear the person's voice with significant lag and so broken up I can't tell what they are saying. Thanks in advance for your time!!
-Seabhac
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just use groove ip, I used to try and use SIP along with google voice, but it didn't work very well if at all. Groove ip is worth the money as it works really well and works along with your google voice account. I bought it in the amazon appstore for $3 instead of 5 and use it on my thunderbolt (to save minutes), transformer, and old moto droid. It even allows you to make calls over 3g/4g if you want, check it out.
... that will actually allow you to confirm YES or NO before dialing. My old WM6 phone had that built in (Windows Voice Command), but Android stock voice dialer does not. It can get fairly problematic if you have business contacts on your phone, and you try to call a friend and it mishears and dials them straight away.
Any recommendations are appreciated.
Try Vlingo. It's pretty spot on as is but gives you a good few seconds to cancel the dial.
another +1 for vlingo
+1 for vlingo, been happy with it since my blackberry days
I have the rezound, as well as a Kindle Fire, and I installed Google Voice on them. I read through other threads, and no luck with my problem.
I have used Google Voice on my computer to call and text people, and with my upcoming trip to europe, it would be nice to use that to call people back home.
Problem, I have it installed on two devices, yet on both it doesn't give me the option to call, or even compose any sort of message at all. Any ideas on what I can do? The only options I get are refresh, settings, and search.
For me, when I'm in my inbox (or any other folder) I have a compose button on the bottom left. For calls, can you go into settings, Making calls, and change it to ask for all calls? Then use your dialer to place a call and it should prompt you.
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Fontos said:
I have the rezound, as well as a Kindle Fire, and I installed Google Voice on them. I read through other threads, and no luck with my problem.
I have used Google Voice on my computer to call and text people, and with my upcoming trip to europe, it would be nice to use that to call people back home.
Problem, I have it installed on two devices, yet on both it doesn't give me the option to call, or even compose any sort of message at all. Any ideas on what I can do? The only options I get are refresh, settings, and search.
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click settings. the second option in the settings menu controls the ability to make calls via google voice. it is however done by dialing a forwarding service and therefore uses your minutes. it is not voip.
Fontos said:
I have the rezound, as well as a Kindle Fire, and I installed Google Voice on them. I read through other threads, and no luck with my problem.
I have used Google Voice on my computer to call and text people, and with my upcoming trip to europe, it would be nice to use that to call people back home.
Problem, I have it installed on two devices, yet on both it doesn't give me the option to call, or even compose any sort of message at all. Any ideas on what I can do? The only options I get are refresh, settings, and search.
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I pretty much use Google Voice as my primary mode of voice calling. You don't make a call through the app. Simply go to settings, and tell it to either use GV for every call, or ask it to prompt you at every call whether to call from your phone or to call from GV. Then when you simply dial as normal through the dialer app, it will either just use GV if you told it to, or ask you which to use.
BTW, All GV calling functionality is disabled on wifi tablets. I honestly have no experience with 3G/4G tablets, but on my Wifi Transformers I have to install a SIP client on the tablet and route GV calls to another VOIP service I use.
a.mcdear said:
I pretty much use Google Voice as my primary mode of voice calling. You don't make a call through the app. Simply go to settings, and tell it to either use GV for every call, or ask it to prompt you at every call whether to call from your phone or to call from GV. Then when you simply dial as normal through the dialer app, it will either just use GV if you told it to, or ask you which to use.
BTW, All GV calling functionality is disabled on wifi tablets. I honestly have no experience with 3G/4G tablets, but on my Wifi Transformers I have to install a SIP client on the tablet and route GV calls to another VOIP service I use.
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I'm a bit confused. I thought the only Google Voice calling solution was GrooveIP if you want to send and receive calls properly for your Google Voice phone number. GrooveIP does not use your minutes and is definitely VOIP.
On every device I tried it on, there is a bit of delay with GrooveIP, but the quality is good (good internet connection required, whether its 4G or strong 3G or WiFi.)
Can you please elaborate a bit? Are you just using Google Voice app, but its using your minutes?
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I'm a bit confused. I thought the only Google Voice calling solution was GrooveIP if you want to send and receive calls properly for your Google Voice phone number. GrooveIP does not use your minutes and is definitely VOIP.
On every device I tried it on, there is a bit of delay with GrooveIP, but the quality is good (good internet connection required, whether its 4G or strong 3G or WiFi.)
Can you please elaborate a bit? Are you just using Google Voice app, but its using your minutes?
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When you use the google voice app, it dials into the google voice services which then forwards the call to the number you dialed. You get charged for the minutes during the call as a result. This also breaks free mobile to mobile calling.
GrooveIP is a 3rd party app that lets you connect to GV via VOIP so you don't have that forwarding call.
Use sipdroid with pbxs function. Tie it to Google voice, download Google voice callback, and presto. Have it on an old evo for my 8 year old daughter. She loves texting with Google voice. Makes her feel like a teenager. There is sometimes a slight echo, but completely usable.
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JeramyEggs said:
Use sipdroid with pbxs function. Tie it to Google voice, download Google voice callback, and presto. Have it on an old evo for my 8 year old daughter. She loves texting with Google voice. Makes her feel like a teenager. There is sometimes a slight echo, but completely usable.
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This is exactly how I made voice calling possible with my GV number on my wifi tablet.
Just wanted to throw this out here... for those of us who want to run CM10 but depend on WiFi calling because of coverage issues.. here's something I've done that works great
Basically we're going to be using Google Voice (For the phone provider) that's linked to a SIP account (SIP is the standard for VOIP), and we're going to use Conditional Call Forwarding to ensure calls go to our google voice number when we don't have server, but connected to WiFi.
First, you need a google voice account. Once you have created an account, make sure you log in/place a call at least once using Gmail (In the google voice phone settings, there's an option to have it forward calls to "Gmail", you want to make sure that's checked as well)
Okay, once you've done that, and you have made a test call... you need to sign up for this Google Voice SIP gateway https://simonics.com/gvgw/
This will, in a nutshell, establish a gateway between google voice's gmail call interface, and a SIP account. This will allow you to use a SIP account to make calls through your google voice number. Make sure you write down/store the information the Simonics gateway gives you once you sign up, you cant get it again!
After you register with the Simonics gateway, you will be given a SIP server, a username, a "secret" (Password), the registration string isn't important unless you're going to be using Asterisk, which we are not.
Now, once you have all this information, download the app CSipSimple (Best SIP client on android) https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lt#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5jc2lwc2ltcGxlIl0.
(Optional)
You can also get the codec pack, which will give you a wider range of codecs to use.. but I find the default just fine.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...5jc2lwc2ltcGxlLnBsdWdpbnMuY29kZWNzLnBhY2sxIl0.
Okay! Now that we have all that done, we're going to configure CSipSimple to connect to the Simonics google voice gateway. CSipSimple has great integration with the stock dialer. Open up CSipSimple... the initial config will pop up, here you can choose to integrate it with the Android dialer (which I recommend if you're replacing wifi calling), select "Available on WiFi" (Unless you want to use this over the cellular network as well, to save on minutes, only uses data) and you can also choose if you want to allow CSipSimple to operate over mobile networks (I'm allowed to use mobile, is the option name) pick your options, then save. Now you'll be presented with a list of VOIP providers etc.. scroll all the way down and select "Advanced" configuration.
Account name: Anything you want
Caller ID: Anything you want, but I suggest either your mobile # or your google voice number
Server: Whatever the Simonic's gateway provided you, this can be different so make sure you wrote all that down!
Username: What the Simonic's gateway provided you
SIP Authentication ID: Leave this blank, it will default to the username.
Password: the "Secret" the simonics gateway provided you
There will be a checkbox that asks to use TCP instead of UDP. If you're going to be taking incoming calls on this often, I'd recommend using TCP (it's much less battery intensive than UDP). UDP is the preferred method, but it will use a LOT more battery if you plan on being connected often.
Proxy: same exact thing here as "server", example: mine is gvgw3.simonics.com
Save that.
If everything is correct, after you save the account should register, and turn green showing "registered"
Okay! Now we can make calls using our google voice account, so let's test it and make sure it's working. Go ahead and hit "Accounts" at the top left (The "back" arrow) or simply hit the back softkey. This should take you to the dialer (This is CSipSimple's dailer, but CSipSimple has also integrated with the stock dialer, so when you make a call a menu will pop up asking if you want to use your Google Voice SIP gateway account, or regular mobile network.. if you don't want this menu every time you make a call, I suggest turning off the "I'm allowed to use mobile network" feature and turn off android dialer integration)
Dial this number: 1 354 415 1595 - This is what's called an ECHO test line, it's a regular land-line number.. you should hear a voice saying hit "1" for an ECHO test, "2" for music on hold. Hit the 1 key, and start talking. You should hear an echo of your voice... if you hear yourself talking, GREAT! Outgoing calls are working!
Now we want to configure what's called Conditional Call Forwarding/Unconditional Call Forwarding so that all calls to our mobile number will be forwarded to our google voice number when we do not have a signal (or in the case of unconditional, always), you can also set up what's Unconditional Call Forwarding... this is useful if you want to have calls forwarded to your google voice number no matter what. I usually turn off the radio when connected to WiFi though (saves a lot of battery), to ensure I don't have a mobile signal ****YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE TEXT MESSAGES IF YOU DO THIS****, so it's up to you if you want to turn the radio off or not. If you don't, you'll need to use unconditional call forwarding.
Now here's the deal: WIth T-Mobile, Conditional Call Forwarding (THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT) is limited to a total of 500 minutes per billing cycle. It doesn't matter if you're on unlimited, 1000 minutes, whatever. You get a TOTAL of 500 Conditional Call Forwarding minutes each cycle. Yes, it sucks. But that's what we have to deal with if we want to use CM10 with functional wifi calling that rings you when someone calls your mobile number. If you want to avoid using these minutes, you can simple call the person back (Using your SIP account), or give your google voice # (instead of mobile number) when someone calls you, and have them call you right back. ALSO, Conditional Call Forwarding is what forwards calls to your voice mail, so if you use it, MAKE SURE TO SET IT BACK TO THE NUMBER IT WAS AT ORIGINALLY, OR CALLS WILL NOT GO TO YOUR VOICEMAIL. You can see what this number is by using the short code # # 62 # in your dialer, using your mobile network.
There's several modes of conditional call forwarding. Forward if BUSY, Forward if NO REPLY, Forward if NOT REACHABLE (no signal). You can set up forwarding to your google voice for any of these, but I only recommend NOT REACHABLE, because it simply doesn't make sense for the other two. There's several ways to configure call forwarding. I recommend using the stock dialer's built in feature, but you can also use Short Codes to activate it. Open the stock dialer, click the menu button, then settings. Near the bottom of the Settings, there should be a "Call Forwarding" option. In there you'll see all three forwading settings (Busy, not reachable, unanswered) as well as the original number it's set to (your voicemail). All you do is simply change the "Forward when unreachable" to your google voice number. Remember, for this to be in use 100% of the time you're on WiFi, you will have to turn off your cellular radio. If Text Messages are important to you, I recommend using UNCONDITIONAL (Always Forward in the dialer->forwarding settings).. this will have calls forwarded to your google voice number NO MATTER WHAT, so make sure you turn it off when you leave WiFi.
Unconditional Call Forwarding, on the other hand, deducts from the minute plan you subscribe to. You can still use the above methods to avoid using your minutes, but just be aware that if you use unconditional call forwarding it WILL deduct from your minute bucket.
Please be aware that you have to have a mobile signal to configure call forwarding, so you need to turn it on before you leave service/enter wifi, or simply always have Unconditional Forward if Not Reachable forwarded to your google voice number. Honestly, I use Google Voice for my voicemail as well, so I have all three of my forwards always set to my Google Voice number, you might want to consider this option as well, as it makes it much more seamless. You can use the Google Voice app for visual voicemail as well as free transcription, and it's much much better than T-Mobile's solution.
Here's a list of short codes for call forwarding: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4319
These are very useful if you plan on using Tasker to automate any of this (This is what I do, to make the process very seamless when I enter WiFi)
I know this isn't nearly as simple as the stock wifi calling solution, and it doesn't integrate nearly as well... but it works. Once you have this configured, you'll be able to receive/make calls on WiFi without issue. You'll also have a method of calling using your data connection that doesn't use minutes if you need that, as well. There's other ways to do this, such as using an app such as "Groove IP" or "Talkatone", and those work very well. I prefer the SIP gateway method, because I can configure a SIP softphone on any number of devices, including my android device. For those standalone apps such as "Groove IP", you would do pretty much the same thing, but you don't need the Sip Gateway, and you also wouldn't need CSipSimple (which I find is superior to all the other VoIP apps)... all you would do is simply configure Unconditional/Conditional call forwarding to your Google Voice number and use whatever app you want. You could also use Android's build in SIP functionality (it's built into the dialer!) But I find it very unreliable and couldn't get it to register reliably with the SIP gateway... but that might be a great option as well.
Please title this correctly.
This is 'How to get Google Voice working on your phone'... Not a viable workaround for 'cell-service-over-WiFi' style wifi calling.
Notes:
1) Monthly4G customers DO NOT HAVE conditional forwarding
2) This does not allow you to recieve MMS.
3) The only way you can use google voice with your real mobile-number is if you port it to Google, at which point you will never get MMS at that number again (because GV can't handle it properly)....
Now, does it work to have a usable phone at home w/o service? Sure, on a different number & with limited messaging...
But it is not a true WFC workaround.
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This is 'How to get Google Voice working on your phone'... Not a viable workaround for 'cell-service-over-WiFi' style wifi calling.
Notes:
1) Monthly4G customers DO NOT HAVE conditional guys over on nal forwarding
2) This does not allow you to recieve MMS.
3) The only way you can use google voice with your real mobile-number is if you port it to Google, at which point you will never get MMS at that number again (because GV can't handle it properly)....
Now, does it work to have a usable phone at home w/o service? Sure, on a different number & with limited messaging...
But it is not a true WFC workaround.
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Well yeah I'm quite aware of the limitations. There's really no other viable alternative at the moment. Maybe someone can get the kineto app and libs from the sensation working but I highly doubt it, as the guys over on the sensation forum have been trying for a while now... Basically it's up to t mobiles, haha. I believe the only working device with jelly bean and wifi calling is the note 2, and sgs3....and once again its deeply embedded within the touchwiz framework.. The guys over on sgs3 forum even have a 350$ bounty for a non touchwiz working port. Doesn't look very promising but it's to be expected with something like uma... Maybe someone will figure it out. For someone who works in a complete t mobile dead zone, the only other viable option is sticking with Ics, and that's simply not something I want. Then again, I've always basically given my gvoice number out, and no MMS is very little impact considering you can send stuff over email, and every single carrier seems to have an email gateway... It is a major pain to have people send stuff to your Gmail acct. Instead of regular MMS, though,.... It's definitely not Ideal but it's a lot better than no service, an using ICS/sense builds.
I wasn't aware that monthly 4g didn't get conditional, kind of sucks. Could always use unconditional, if most people use your mobile number you would completely be dropping messages so i do understand the hesitation on that. I've been wanting sms/MMS. Forwarding options for a long time now, would be nice if carrier sms could utilize xmpp or sip messaging to handle sms forwards, but sms is another huge hack job that sorely needs replacement and MMS just a fancy if not severely limited email.
So yeah man, not many other options out there right now. If you're someone who relies on sms/MMS heavily and most contacts use your mobile number, I can definitely see where that would be an issue. Most people I communicate with on a daily basis are very tech oriented, so it's honestly not that big of a deal breaker (to me). I've just found that the Sip gateway and CSipSmple work orders of magnitude better than any stand alone app implementation. If you have any alternatives (besides using ics/sense builds) I'd love to know them, I was a huge user of wifi calling (about. 70% of all my calls) so i'm open to try everything.
Lol get your friends and family to get viber you get to keep your number and sms and MMS and since these days every one has a smart phone an app like viber is quite nice especially if everyone had it on their phones... That's what I use when I don't have signal and have told friends and family to reach me on viber if they can't otherwise
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ericdjobs said:
I wasn't aware that monthly 4g didn't get conditional, kind of sucks. Could always use unconditional, if most people use your mobile number you would completely be dropping messages so i do understand the hesitation on that. I've been wanting sms/MMS. Forwarding options for a long time now, would be nice if carrier sms could utilize xmpp or sip messaging to handle sms forwards, but sms is another huge hack job that sorely needs replacement and MMS just a fancy if not severely limited email.
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If you use 'unconditional forward' then you will never get another call again. All your calls will be forwarded to G-Voice, which will send them to G-voicemail.
We'll see about wifi calling.
BTW, the Kineto/UMA app does run on our CM9. There's a kernel driver missing for GAN, and of course CM9 does not have data. It crashes on CM10 because of a missing native library for audio-recording...
The Movial/IMS app (From Amaze Stock) runs on CM10 but the setup screen is full of sense rubbish... However the Sense rubbish might be wrapp-able back to stock-Android, but that is a long-shot...
Skip all steps and install groove ip. And sign in with your Google voice login
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dilfatx said:
Skip all steps and install groove ip. And sign in with your Google voice login
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Yeah you can do that if you want, and it's definitely a much more simpler approach and it should be sufficient for most people.
But the SIP method gives you much more flexibility, like the option of using Speex/GSM codecs (which compensate for jitter and packet loss) while Groove IP hooks directly into the google talk API, thus you are stuck with G.711 mu-law codec, and that's not the best option all of the time. Using Speex/GSM codecs will give you slightly reduced call quality but much better reliability and they are much more resistant to congestion network situations or high latency.. it's a better calling experience all around IMO.
Also, using a SIP solution you're able to hook into an asterisk server if you so desire (which is important to me, personally) and manage multiple lines using one softphone.
At the end of the day though, if you have access to fast, reliable wifi whenever you need to make calls, Groove IP gets the job done just fine. But for someone who wants a lot more functionality and features, using the SIP gateway will provide that. Also, you can use it as a trunk for an asterisk server, for those of us who utilize that sort of thing.
Android stock dialer
Hi, thanks for sharing this! I was wondering if there's a way to configure this directly in Android's stock dialer (just as can be done with pbxes.org)? Thanks!