Hi guys. Mass apologies for my stupidity, but here goes...
I have now spent over 2 days on this site reading all that I can, but I am at a loss and desperate for your expertise!
I am running a UK Tmobile Vario 2. I was having problems with the phone crashing constantly and not getting any signal at all so I installed WM6 yesterday hoping this would help. Its not crashing as much, but its still not getting any signal.
After reading loads of threads and posts all over the place (I have read enough WIKI to make my eyes bleed), I think I need to update the radio version. This is the information I can gather from my phone:
Bootloader info-
Herm300
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.03
I cant figure out how to enter commands in bootloader to gather any more info I tried the mtty.exe thing with no avail. When I go to "device information" it reads like this:
ROM version: 3.60.110.4
ROM date: 09/05/07
Radio version: SAYS NOTHING!!!!
Protocol version: SAYS NOTHING!!
IMEI: SAYS NOTHING!!
When I do a soft reset I get red letters and numbers appearing and not the "no gsm" message.
This is a 2nd hand phone off of ebay as my original phone was stolen. I have contacted Tmobile, but they refuse to help me as its not the original phone that I bought.
I would be most grateful for any help you can give me!!
Thanks,
April
OK, firstly.....flash hardspl.........instructions here
Next flash ANY radio......try version 1.48.00.10.
with the device booted up and synched with Activesync, download the radio ROM, unzip and run the RUUprogram (the only exe in the zip).
select autodetect, it should highlite SPL v2.10 and tick the "HardSPL?" box.
go through each screen and accept everything......the radio will be flashed.
Hopefully your device will work properly after this.
uh oh...
Thanks so much for your speedy response. Obviously I managed to screw this up.
got to this stage
"select autodetect, it should highlite SPL v2.10 and tick the "HardSPL?" box."
It didnt autodetect, so selected SPL v2.10 and ticked "HardSPL" box manually. Went through all the other bits and when it starts to do its thing it just sits at 0% then i get error message "ERROR 262: UPDATE ERROR. The rom update utility has encountered communication errors during the update process. THe program will guide you step by step to recover from the errors so you can continue with the update."
So I followed the recovery process instructions several times. Nothing has worked. Have tried restarting my computer and doing a hard reset on phone, and stuck with the bootloader screen reading IPL 1.04 and HERM300 SPL-2.10.01Olipro.
Manage to get back to this stage
"select autodetect, it should highlite SPL v2.10 and tick the "HardSPL?" box."
and go through the ticks but always ends up with error message 262.
SORRY!
Sorry to hear about your problems.
Was it the official T-Mobile WM6 ?
If so it was another 1.50 Radio!
I have same now!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357275
I read in another thread try putting phone in fridge for 15mins first without the battery.
Good Luck
fridge vs. floor
Yes, it was the official WM6 from T-Mobile.
Im worried now that my limited experience with flashing, cooking, and now crying will leave me with a proper "brick".
I will try the fridge thing, if I ever get it to loads WM6 again but for the mean time, I will continue to throw it on the floor.
What do you mean by it was another 1.50 radio? I dont know what version I once had, but as suggested by mrvanx, I was trying to upload the 1.48.00.01.
Again apologies for my complete ignorance, but Im sure there are others that share my stupidity and will benefit from me asking goofy questions. If anyone else has any more simpleton advice on how to revive my poor phone, I would be much obliged!
Thanks,
April
The 1.50 radio bit; If it was the official T-Mobile WM6 upgrade, then your radio will have been 1.50 (I am pretty sure)
I dont know what else to do!!??
Ok since trying to update my radio from nothing to 1.48.00.01 and receiving error message 262 during the update, my phone now only goes into bootloader mode reading the following:
HERM300
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.10.0lipro
I have tried the following to bring it back to life (but not in any particular order):
- restarted my pc several times
- made sure my Windows XP SP2 was up to date
- made sure I had .net framework up to date
- hard reset on phone
- soft reset on phone
- leaving battery out overnight
- updating SPL to 2.10.0lipro (again) doesnt get to any percentage, just straight to error 260
- updating radio to 1.48.00.01 (again) - wont autodetect. tried radio button SPL2.10, then just force safe, then just HardSPL. each option dies at 0% then error message 262)
- reinstalling TMobile version WM6 (again) - dies at 11% - error message 262
I saw the post by pof "How to unbrick your bricked hermes" and the solution was to "Flash any radio in NBH format", but I cant figure out how to do that!? (I have tried clicking on the nbh file in the downloaded radio folder, but dont know what program to use to unload all the info. Have also looked at all the links on "Radio sudden death issue knowledge consolidation" and nothing has helped.
Sorry again guys, but can someone please help
If not, does anyone want to buy my brick?
alachlan said:
Sorry again guys, but can someone please help
If not, does anyone want to buy my brick?
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Dude - there are enough bricks around these parts to build a 500 story repair centre! All we need is MS to merge their NT, CE and ME technologies into CEMENT then we can hold all the bricks together
Error 260 (comms error) is usually caused by using Vista without "fixing" it or Win2K/XP without the .net framework on it
Error 262 is USB port not available - turning hermes off and on (or removing the battery if that fails) at that point and putting it manually into bootloader usually cures that one then continuing with the flash.
Incorrect.
Its more than likely this Vario II was irepairably bricked before the TC bought it, the Radio upgrade is failing on a Tmobile official ROM (which includes a radio) and on a standard CustomRUU upgrade for the radio only.
A "checkimage" command in mtty would probabaly return a failed radio checksum and following on from that the mtty commands to get into the radio bootloader will fail (rtask a......then rversion).
Also there may be a corrupted CID on the device which again isnt good.
Ive seen these types of bricks MANY times.
Sorry dude, looks like your Hermes was a paperweight when you bought it.
Never thought of that - shameful given the amount of radio investigating I've done recently Too busy on 260's with part flashes from people not installing .net (also the amount of hits you should be getting to your vista guide now is scary!)
Still say we should collect up all the bricks and build a repair centre
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.....the amount of hits you should be getting to your vista guide now is scary!....
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73039 hits according to the site
Pretty much the only fatal brick now is a damaged radio/CID flash. If there was a way for Olipro/Pof/Us to flash a hardspl type package in place of the radio bootloader then it would be solid.
What type of mortar should we use?
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73039 hits according to the site
Pretty much the only fatal brick now is a damaged radio/CID flash. If there was a way for Olipro/Pof/Us to flash a hardspl type package in place of the radio bootloader then it would be solid.
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Yup.. Must admit I think that's the one thing that will not happen anytime soon as the interactions between bootloader, radio bootloader and the radio PLA/PIC is a tad complex... It'll be a very difficult thing to test and even finding a suitable vunerability is difficult - certainly beyond my abilities presently. Though the same was said 12 months ago about the No-Wifi issue and Olipro led some excellent progress in that area...
Mind you - the key to fixing CID/radio bricks is to educate the masses not to make them in the first place and not to just blindly execute whatever they stumble across - more of a challenge than rewriting the bootloader by hand on paper tape and almost as frustrating
Oh... as for Mortar... we could have a mass scrape of all that weird dirt stuff that "grows" under the "invisible-until-you-open-it" edges of the screens and around the battery cover and add a drop of water
Wonder if it's the electronic equivelent of belly button fluff?
does that mean its dead?
Thanks for all the entertaining posts guys. Just to clarify things, Im running XP SP2, and the phone did actually work for about 3 months until suddenly one day it gradually started dropping signal, until the signal vanished completely.
Are you guys trying to tell me that my phone is completely dead then? Could I have prevented this by knowing what the hell I was doing or was it a fault of the phone?
With regards to the mortar issue I think a combination of tears and sh*t would do. I think I would build a big wall around the jackasses who release products that arent completely stable but still charge us an arm and a leg for them. (excuse my grumpiness)
Oh and just wanted to say that since my vario has been out of action, I have been relying on the trustiest brick Ive ever owned, my XDA IIs. This thing has been dropped so many times and is held together with super glue, but it does the job and gets on with things, just not very quickly.
Thanks again for all the help.
alachlan said:
Thanks for all the entertaining posts guys. Just to clarify things, Im running XP SP2, and the phone did actually work for about 3 months until suddenly one day it gradually started dropping signal, until the signal vanished completely.
Are you guys trying to tell me that my phone is completely dead then? Could I have prevented this by knowing what the hell I was doing or was it a fault of the phone?
With regards to the mortar issue I think a combination of tears and sh*t would do. I think I would build a big wall around the jackasses who release products that arent completely stable but still charge us an arm and a leg for them. (excuse my grumpiness)
Oh and just wanted to say that since my vario has been out of action, I have been relying on the trustiest brick Ive ever owned, my XDA IIs. This thing has been dropped so many times and is held together with super glue, but it does the job and gets on with things, just not very quickly.
Thanks again for all the help.
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By the sounds of it you might have a permenant brick but unless i had your device here and actually went through everything myself i cant be sure. take a read through the sticky thread above this one about unbricking......it will take some time to read through but you will see what techniques are used to try and revive the device.
when cid corruped with spl 2.03 and not have gsm no solution can not flash with sd card when you see that level=fff only when level=0 in mtty console can use sd card for flashing rom.
THIS TIME ONLY SOLUTION TO UNBRICK HERMES WITH SPL 2.03 NO CID AND IMEI -
SENT Imei-check to fix this ??
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uuuummm....
Thanks mbsshop1302gsm for the response, but did I mention that I have limited knowledge on this stuff? So the more basic the instructions are, the better.
Thanks,
April
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Please dont tell me to read the other threads on this issue. Your better off skipping this topic and moving on to the next. I preffer this to go untouched with no replies than to have smart ass comments. Ive been reading pages and pages on how to do this for weeks with no luck. Theres about a few dozen options and with all the suggestions I have no idea where to start, nor what programs to download first, understand what these terms mean, etc. Maybe this isnt my cup of tea and I shouldnt even be attempting this but thats neither here nor there cause the fact of the matter is I screwed things up. Now Im looking for some help from the community.
Its getting real expensive and I need a serious expert who has patience and is very thurough. This is my second unit and I still have the 1st one that is still bricked as well. This is the situation for both. When I go to setting>system>device info, there was no radio version, no protocol version, no IMEI, and the call duration info was zero. I was able to use both units for thier PDA functions but not the phone prtion. I was attempting to SIM unlock and SuperCid em both. Now they are both stuck in bootloader. Im not sure what went wrong but I have done 3 other 8525's with success also updated roms and reverted back and no problems. I just cant seem to get the bricking undone. Now Ive done tutorials on housing swaps, step by step and provided pics as well. You know what, people still ask how to do it. Its a fact guys. some people just need a little more direction than others. What Im trying to say is Im looking for help not criticism, Im a grown man and the last thing I need is for some young punk to flame me,or telling me to read cause Its already been done. I can easily buy another phone but Im willing to learn how to get out of this bricking crap. So its back to reading. TIA
Heres How You Do It
I know how you feel because last night i bricked my 8525 cingular, Okay, If You Can Start Up Your DEvice All You Have to do is reset it to te factory condition and that would help you, unfortunatley all of your data would be lost, but its better than a bricked expensive phone. Oh, but your stuck in bootlaoder, well i have good news for you your not bricked your just stuck, go to the att website and a download and update and the update should recogize your phone even though the computer dosent, after that you have a brand new updated 8525 and that should get you out of bootloader.
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I know how you feel because last night i bricked my 8525 cingular, Okay, If You Can Start Up Your DEvice All You Have to do is reset it to te factory condition and that would help you, unfortunatley all of your data would be lost, but its better than a bricked expensive phone. Oh, but your stuck in bootlaoder, well i have good news for you your not bricked your just stuck, go to the att website and a download and update and the update should recogize your phone even though the computer dosent, after that you have a brand new updated 8525 and that should get you out of bootloader.
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Really??? This seems too easy. I'll try anything at this point. So you say its not bricked,just stuck in bootloader? So there is hope? Thats def bice to hear. I'll give it a shot. Thanks
LOL. Tried and and same problem. It sounded too good to be true. Thanks for the tip though
I'm not trying to be smart (believe me, I'm not equipped to do that!) just trying to help determine the exact state so that someone may be better able to help.
You say the phone's are stuck in bootloader, but that you're able to look at the device info on them, and use them for their PDA side. I always thought stuck in bootloader meant that when you switched it on, it came up with the multi-coloured bars but got no further (as if you'd reset it while holding the power and side OK button). Do you mean that the phone's work as normal but have no PHONE side of things, or can you get no further than the bootloader screen when trying to start them up?
Like I said, not trying to split hais just trying to get the exact symptoms for someone cleverer than me to help.
OK by the sounds of it you are definatly NOT stuck in bootloader.
firstly can you please answer the following questions from the wiki:
1. Which is your SPL version?
Put your hermes in bootloader mode (side ok + power button + softreset), the SPL version appears in yellow letters on the upper side
2. Which is your radio bootloader (HTC_BOOT) version?
If your radio version is <=1.27 your HTC_BOOT is 0106 or 0107, the only exception is Softbank X01HT 1.14 radio which has HTC_BOOT 0108
If your radio version is >= 1.30 your HTC_BOOT is 0108
If you don't know which is HTC_BOOT, but you have bootloader 1.01 MFG, 1.10.Oli or 1.04 you can access to the radio bootloader using the command 'rtask a', then type 'rversion' and hit enter (you won't see anything in the screen when you type rversion, because the radio bootloader has no echo, this is normal).
3. Is your device able to boot Windows Mobile OS?
This one is easy: If can you see your today screen and use your phone as a PDA means you can boot OS. If you only see the splash screen, bootloader screen (tri-color) or windows mobile splash screen you can't boot OS.
4. Do you see "No GSM" message in red letters on the first splash screen?
Reset your hermes, you will see some numbers and letters appear in red and disappear after a few seconds... your radio version is there, but if your radio is corrupted for some reason, you will see 'No GSM'.
5. Does your OS rom have KITL enabled?
Hold COMM MANAGER and POWER buttons together and reset with stylus, if you see the message "Select KITL Transport" your OS rom has KITL enabled, otherwise not.
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Please post the answers back here when you are done.
Stu has an excellent point. Need to know the exact state of the 8525. Exactly what you have done to it....
Example: I used Pof's free HTC SIM unlock and SuperCid program. It appeared to complete successfully. However, now when I start the 8525 up it automatically goes into the tri-color boot loader screen. I had not applied anything else to the 8525 prior to trying to unlock it.
Also, there is a sticky for dead hermes. I bricked mine as well, and was able to get passed it. I posted in the sticky. If you post in that sticky, then someone else may benefit from what you find out. Keeps everything in one place
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Stu has an excellent point. Need to know the exact state of the 8525. Exactly what you have done to it....
Example: I used Pof's free HTC SIM unlock and SuperCid program. It appeared to complete successfully. However, now when I start the 8525 up it automatically goes into the tri-color boot loader screen. I had not applied anything else to the 8525 prior to trying to unlock it.
Also, there is a sticky for dead hermes. I bricked mine as well, and was able to get passed it. I posted in the sticky. If you post in that sticky, then someone else may benefit from what you find out. Keeps everything in one place
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Yeah, but, if you used V3a to unlock it, you actually got Oli's BL as part of the deal--hence why you can unbrick it easily!
WELP no smartass comments HUH? Well if you ****ed up 2 phones like this you really must be doing something wrong there buddy. your phone is not stuck in bootloader if you can see the device info thats for damn sure. first thing load SPLV7 on your phone then flash a a complete ROM including radio and OS and then you should be all fixed and if that dont work there is a WHOLE thread just for BRICKED phones so go read like you said you whrere doing.... To me its sounds like you dont have a clue what your doing since you have done this to 2 phones and if you did have a clue your first thing would have been to load SPLv7
so go enjoy your not really bricked bricks
and if i remember right your one of the fools that was making fun af elf because he charge people like you to fix phones over at hofo... so take your problem over there or call elf for some one on one and eat some ****....
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I gotta give you a lot of credit for that post. Me and a few other members had a bet that it would take less than an hour before the first idiot would surface, Thanks LOL. Who the hell is elf, and I would like to see the post that I had made making fun of anybody. If your gonna try to put someone on blast, back it up. Its assholes like you that a community can do without. Your a true idiot man. No1 needs you around here with that type of attitude. I dont blame you though, I blame your parents for having you. Your mom should have flushed the toilet when she had you then we wouldnt have a piece of **** like you in this world, shame on her. They should be ashamed of themselves for they way you have turned out.
I was able to do all the PDA functions prior to gettting my phones stuck in bootloader. That is were I am now. I got myself stuck in bootloader while trying to load HardSPLv7. I had not done any type of mods or upgrades prior to doing this.
Elf, I want you and that moron to post topics if me bashing you, I cant imagine me doing that. I am 30+ years of age, 3 children and a beautiful wife. I dont have a lot of time, nor do I have the time or care to flame other on these forums. I know that I look to people here and other forums more than they will need me. So please back up that what you are saying and I make sure that I make it an effort to put in my sig that I am an idiot and that you are god. If this it was gets you thru the day, so be it. Just back them comments up. Its a bad tag to put on someone.
My phone reads on tri color screen
Herm100
IPL-1.01
HERM1
SPL-1.40. Olipro
I can do anything other than see this bootloader screen.
(directed at the OP)
Instead of wasting your time replying to posts which are off topic why dont you answer the question posed in my reply...then we can get your two Hermes devices back to working order. Otherwise a mod will inevitably lock this thread and you will be back to square one.??
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Instead of wasting your time replying to posts which are off topic why dont you answer the question posed in my reply...then we can get your two Hermes devices back to working order. Otherwise a mod will inevitably lock this thread and you will be back to square one.??
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When I recieved the phone there was no radio version displayed nor was there a protocol version. I also noticed that there was no IMEI that was displyed under the device info. While I was attempting to load the HardSPLv7, that is when I got stuck.
Bro I need serious step by step instructions on this. I've taken all that had been posted about this stuff and a have a pile of info about it. Theres not a whole lot I can do in the boot mode si Im trying to make sure Im doing the steps properly. The info I have given is based on the 8525, I'll work on the TYTN after. Thanks
My appologies.. I just checked HoFo.. You were not one of the idiots on there, as far as I can tell..
Sorry.
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Appology accepted. Im not worried about man. I got other things to worry about.
Again can you PLEASE answer the questions in my reply?? I need an answer to all FIVE of them, a simple task which will give us the correct status of your device, even if it seems stupid...do it. (the questions im referencing to)
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Again can you PLEASE answer the questions in my reply?? I need an answer to all FIVE of them, a simple task which will give us the correct status of your device, even if it seems stupid...do it. (the questions im referencing to)
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1.SPL-1.40 Olipro
2.Dont know. Is there a way to check this now that I am in boot mode.
3.NO.
4.NO
5.Not sure. How can I find this out in the stage Im in
FLiPinoy9oNe6 said:
1.SPL-1.40 Olipro
2.Dont know. Is there a way to check this now that I am in boot mode.
3.NO.
4.NO
5.Not sure. How can I find this out in the stage Im in
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OK, right you need to flash ANY ROm that contains an OS only, DO NOT try flashing a ROM which has a radio or SPL etc...
Follow my WM5 Downgrade Guide, this will take you through the steps necessary, select the relevant ROMs by HTC and Cingular (found in the wiki).
If that works as desired then update to HArdSPL v7 for both devices then flash a new radio.
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Instead of wasting your time replying to posts which are off topic why dont you answer the question posed in my reply...then we can get your two Hermes devices back to working order. Otherwise a mod will inevitably lock this thread and you will be back to square one.??
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wont lock the thread since the guy needs help... but instead i will play janitor and clean it up... since some people will never learn to play nice...
More to the point, have you managed to fix them using the procedure i described?
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More to the point, have you managed to fix them using the procedure i described?
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No sir, Ive got two computers working on this right now. One to look at replies and the other to do the update. I had to get a bite to eat so Im back at it. Im trying to connect to sync but not working. Im reading up again on this Sd card deal and mtty so Im trying.
Yes ofcourse i forgot, once you have rebuilt the nbh to make an OS only update (OS,Ext ROM and the 2 splashes) you cant update as normal because there is no activesync connection...the sd card technique is what you need to do. After the device can get into OS and connect over activesync you can do the rest (HardSPL and Radio).
ok mrvanx, after using device monitor I fianlly got a connection and tried downloading a rom. Process goes thru and at 12% it stops and gives me the 262 error message. I do wat it suggest when getting the message with sof reset and try again, still same error.
flash from a damn SDcard and be done with this **** man... your wasting time half assing around... flash an OS.nb from your card and then do all that was told to you from above... this is the only way you will get your hermes working again
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OK by the sounds of it you are definatly NOT stuck in bootloader.
firstly can you please answer the following questions from the wiki:
Please post the answers back here when you are done.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9664136#post9664136
Sir please help me
1 HERM100
IPL-1.01
HERM100
SPL-1.40.Olipro
2 - rite now dont show while OS is on
3 yes OS loads ok
4 (yes) No GSM shows while boot
m 05
s 04 No GSM
B 06 D 3.57
5 I can't find as comm manager button confused
All rite here we go, in advanced i thank u guys for trying to help me out here.
First, i'm a n00bie compared with the most of u guys.
My Device:
Tytn Herm 300
OS: Schaps Purple 3.30c
SPL: Hard-Spl 2.10 oli
Radio: 1.16.00.00 !Hmzz...that's the problem!
My phone functionallity sucks...some how it keep loosing connection while i see the phone indication bar up to 3 bars. So i decided to do something about it.
Beeing a noob i thought it got to do something with the OS. So i upgrade it to Schaps's wonderfull purple WM6 Hermes 3.30c and loaded the Hard SPL 2.10 oil V7. All went great, and my Hermes never looked so cool before.
But now i'm trying to upgrade my radio, which is still version 1.16.00.00, to what ever better version. I tried every radio upgrade possible from this list:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...actedRadioRoms
Every single one starts well. passed the information retrieving from my phone. Confirmed the update, and then there was the installation progress bar....
All versions of the radio roms i downloaden get stuck in here. It doesn't even start..0% and error... And really i dun have any idea why.
So after re-flashing a gazillion times, i decided to ask help to the allmighty XDA community. So pls, if anybody there got a suggestion or the solution...i would be so thankfull and will slaughter a goat to worship you
If you've got schaps Rom and HardSPL on your phone then you obviously don't have problems flashing or with PC/phone comms.
When you try flashing the radio, how long do you wait before deciding it doesn't work? I've found that some of them can take what seems like a really long time and I'm tempted to unplug and start again.
Maybe try again, then go make yourself a cup of tee/coffee or get a beer then come back 10 minutes later. If the upgrade still hasn't worked we'll have to look a bit deeper
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- I am so sorry posting this twice in the wrong sections, it seems that i'm a really noobie forum user - But i finally found the rite section. So my humble excuses.
All rite here we go, in advanced i thank u guys for trying to help me out here.
First, i'm a n00bie compared with the most of u guys.
My Device:
Tytn Herm 300
OS: Schaps Purple 3.30c
SPL: Hard-Spl 2.10 oli
Radio: 1.16.00.00 !Hmzz...that's the problem!
My phone functionallity sucks...some how it keep loosing connection while i see the phone indication bar up to 3 bars. So i decided to do something about it.
Beeing a noob i thought it got to do something with the OS. So i upgrade it to Schaps's wonderfull purple WM6 Hermes 3.30c and loaded the Hard SPL 2.10 oil V7. All went great, and my Hermes never looked so cool before.
But now i'm trying to upgrade my radio, which is still version 1.16.00.00, to what ever better version. I tried every radio upgrade possible from this list:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...actedRadioRoms
Every single one starts well. passed the information retrieving from my phone. Confirmed the update, and then there was the installation progress bar....
All versions of the radio roms i downloaden get stuck in here. It doesn't even start..0% and error... And really i dun have any idea why.
So after re-flashing a gazillion times, i decided to ask help to the allmighty XDA community. So pls, if anybody there got a suggestion or the solution...i would be so thankfull and will slaughter a goat to worship you
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If you've got schaps Rom and HardSPL on your phone then you obviously don't have problems flashing or with PC/phone comms.
When you try flashing the radio, how long do you wait before deciding it doesn't work? I've found that some of them can take what seems like a really long time and I'm tempted to unplug and start again.
Maybe try again, then go make yourself a cup of tee/coffee or get a beer then come back 10 minutes later. If the upgrade still hasn't worked we'll have to look a bit deeper
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I waited till the Program says connection error...and send me to recovery proces. And i've been making hella tons of coffee after trying to flash that many Radio Roms. Any other suggestions? I'm so desperate
Ok, maybe some more info...
Do you see 'NO GSM' during the phone boot process?
Do you have no radio at all or just intermittent reception?
Are you running Vista?
What is the connection error number?
If you've lost the radio but have hard SPL it may just be a case of re-flashing an original manufacturers ROM (which will include the radio) then start your upgrading again afterwards. Don't forget to back-up data before flashing.
If you do flash a manufacturers shipped rom - check that you still have HardSPL afterwards.
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Ok, maybe some more info...
Do you see 'NO GSM' during the phone boot process?
Do you have no radio at all or just intermittent reception?
Are you running Vista?
What is the connection error number?
If you've lost the radio but have hard SPL it may just be a case of re-flashing an original manufacturers ROM (which will include the radio) then start your upgrading again afterwards. Don't forget to back-up data before flashing.
If you do flash a manufacturers shipped rom - check that you still have HardSPL afterwards.
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Well the weird part is "No GSM" appeared occasionally...some times it shows it sometimes it's not showing it.
No...i'm a Vista hater. And dun have the original manufacturers ROM. I've got the "T-Mobile Vario II" from The Netherlands..so if anybody got a link for the original version i'd be thankfull.
The Radio it self is intermittent and very inpredictable...for example:
Radio indicator says i got full recieve:...but i can't call or recieve any.
Connection error: 262 (which is, if i'm not mistake a connection error.) Which is bull cuz i'm re-running every other ROM's upload with the same way and succeded/
Radio indicator says no reception and shows an exclamation mark:...and my GF just called me to hurry up and pick her up :/
But the weird part is...it seems that my radio ROM is locked somehow. I can upgrade or downgrade SPL's and OS ROM's but not the Radio ROM.
I've tried to use MTTY by now and followed the manual bellow: (Problem 5)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem5
But it began with invalid password. Procede as written and it didn't helped.
More suggestions are welcome
My bad...i didn't looked well enough. It is saying No GSM the whole time.
More information:
I've checked the Device information on the Hermes now some information are blank:
Radio: Blank
Protocol version: Blank
IMEI: Blank
All other information field are filled. Been spending hours reading tutorials and manuals...and nothing. HELP!
OK,
This isn't a problem I've had myself, but loads of other people have and there are quite a few threads on how to unbrick from here... you're going to have to do a bit of reading.
This page shows the different combinations of OS/radio/brick type etc and should point you in the right direction for the correct course of action http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
Then read through this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755 . It's got really long but read the beginning where POF describes the types of problem and also the solutions. Then it's probably best to jump to somewhere near the end and pick someone who has a similar problem.
It sounds to me as though you need to just flash a radio in nbh format, but please do some more reading before you do this to check my advice - as I said at the beginning, I haven't had this problem so I'm only giving advice from what others have written.
ach2 said:
It sounds to me as though you need to just flash a radio in nbh format, but please do some more reading before you do this to check my advice - as I said at the beginning, I haven't had this problem so I'm only giving advice from what others have written.
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I am really thankfull of ur post. Unfortunately, i've been doing some reading. Including the link u gave me. The problem is that i can't upload/flash Radio in nhb format.
As i described in the first place, i can't load a nhb format radio in RUUWrapper.exe properly. It can start the proces..but it always end up with a connection error code 260/262 during the installation progres bar (0%).
The solutions some ppl tried in ur link is often not my case. And the similar cases i have tried where i end up with the same grumpfy situation.
have you tried to flash the radio using the SD card method? I too have a cable connection problem but I fear mine may be hardware failure.
Yap...and no luck
Hi all,
First of all I want to let you know that I did search the forum for a solution. In fact, I found a lot of workarounds but none of them actually worked.
Let me give some details about my problem: My Hermes was working fine. I was running the official WM6 ROM supplied by HTC, so no customized ROM here.
It was going fine until the WM frozed. Then I soft reset the device and after that I never got cellular signal again.
While booting the device I got the message: "no GSM".
First thing I tried was to flash a new radio ROM. In all the attempts the progress bar never moved from 0% and after a while I got the communication problem error.
Then I tried flashing a whole ROM. This time the progress bar stopped at 81%. Apparently in the first 81% it flashes the OS and in the last 19% it writes the radio. Anyway, I tried this a few times and never finished.
In fact, after every communication error message I got stuck in the bootloader screen.
The only thing that works is to flash a ROM WITHOUT the radio!!
Is there anything I can do to save my phone or am I condemned to use my Hermes as a phone-less pda?
I tried everything I found in the wiki/forums, but I couldn't find a working solution.
I suspect that the blocks of memory where the radio data reside got corrupted, could that be possible?
PLEASE HELP!
thanks in advance!
Chris
A similar thing happen to me several months ago. While on a call my phone froze and when I soft-reset it the dreaded 'No GSM' issue appeared. I tried flashing radios/full roms/etc, but nothing worked. I ended up sending my phone to the htc repair facility and they fixed it at no cost. (Other than not having a phone for ~10 days)
Thanks dang, but I don't have a HTC service center where I live (Argentina, LATAM)
I'm faithful that the people of this wonderful community will be able to help me.
Just for curiosity, where did you send your device? Is it in the US?
cheers
sounds like a hardware problem to me...
Hi, there! I found that a lot of us who have bricked our Hermes, don't have a responsive radio bootloader, so when they try to flash a full rom, the progress bar hangs to 13%, or 81%. This is because at that time the flasher is trying to enter the radio bootloader, but because it's corrupted, it hangs. Till today there is no known solution to this one. I'm far away from England where I bought my Hermes, so I'm not thinking to send it back for repair. I'm a programmer, so my knowledge may be usefull here. The first thing I must know is if i can use the "lnb" command without being SuperCID. I mean if there is something like a Hard-SPL with an "lnb" command - (or renamed for security reasons). Maybe there is hope!
How can I try that?
windshearx said:
The first thing I must know is if i can use the "lnb" command without being SuperCID. I mean if there is something like a Hard-SPL with an "lnb" command - (or renamed for security reasons). Maybe there is hope!
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You can use 'lnb' in HardSPL without having a real SuperCID; however you will not be able to flash a radio with 'lnb' command. The radio chipset has its own bootloader, the and the SPL just acts as a pass-through sending the data directly to radio chipset through the s2410 UART.
I had one device with non-responsive htc_boot and tried all kinds of SPL patches to flash htc_boot again on radio, without success. The only known method to fix this is to take the BGA chip out with hot air and reflash it with special hardware, as it is not common to have this equipment at home, your only option is to send it somewhere to do it for you.
However, I don't want to discourage you to research on it, maybe you find something i didn't
I have a similar problem
I also have a NO GSM and corrupted CID but I can access KITL and use it with PB 5.0. and I followed this steps here but the phone doesnt boot completely. It stops just after the two boot screens on Black WM6 ending on a white screen and the debug window on PB after loading all sort of things begin showing these lines over and over:
@@@@@@ HUB state changes now @@@@@@
[HDC]HubStatusChangeThreadPN TRUE
[HDC]HubStatusChangeThreadPN FALSE
Is there any hope for me? I have the cingular 8525
thanks
Gents, do you think the solution presented in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280425 could help me?
Please advise.
thanks again
chriscec said:
Just for curiosity, where did you send your device? Is it in the US?
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I sent it to the HTC service center in Texas, US.
I just got my replacement from ATT.. Had the same problem. Its a hardware problem.. I wouldnt waste anymore of your time.
first, i'm sorry for my english
I've the same problem with a V1605 (french SFR), i've tried every solution but flash radio doesn't work.
I can flash cooked os without any problem, but it's impossible to put official
It's only a pda now, it's better than a brick
My hernes use to be the same as you 'NoGSM'.I tried to install the official rom,but it 's not work at all.I called to service center ask this problem,so they said that it must be only changed the mainboard. That 's terrible!!!
for ALL -that has NO GSM and stuck at OS boot,
please follow this link -
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PB_KITL_HERMES
the link above help me to bring back my hermes alive (about four hours work).
otoro_315 said:
for ALL -that has NO GSM and stuck at OS boot,
please follow this link -
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PB_KITL_HERMES
the link above help me to bring back my hermes alive (about four hours work).
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That only works with phones with KITL...which I don't seem to have.
Sorry, how to config the phone with KITL and solve the no gsm problem.
No GSM but when sim inserted
Hi all, First sorry for my bad english.
I also have 2 bricked Tytn Hermes 200. Its not my personal ones Its my company's property, which pple were using this phones. So i'm facin with problem which many pple here having but with exception. both phones having no gsm error when sim inserted but without sim its fine. In other words , device info showing every info including IMEI when sim unavailable. And some times works with sim but after making few call and receiving phone hangs(not system) and goes off from network but anthena signal still showing few bars. I'm thinking maybe the radio hangs totally and goes off, and after soft restart NO GSM. I also tried many flashing upgrading those things nothing can really help me.
When im flashing original rom from HTC (the latest one HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108) its hanging on 12% and doing 3 or 4 times recovery , but its finishes succesfully. So what exactly happening in 12th%?. Maybe its started flashing radio and stopped on bad block ? But then why its finishes succesfully after few retry?. Ok so if any one wants to experiments on the phones except radio welcome. I'll help. And some can give me quick example of how to check bad blocks?.
Tnx.
@akarandomjames -
#1. have you try the comm button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
#2. OR try the comm button+OK button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
anyway, i'm not sure if KITL is dependend on the ROM version. because when my device was in NO GSM status, SPL is 1.04, HTC bootloader is 0108, and lost SuperCID. Because of my device is still has SPL 1.04, i was able to load WM5 full ROM upgrade using WWE HTC English QTEK_001 2.05.255.1 01/17/07 version (ROM available on this site under HERMES Upgrade link), run it twice. once you have successful load the WM5 ROM then try to do step #1 or #2 above to get KITL USB display on your screen device.
Note: i don't think KITL mode is not available once your device is in Production Mode. anyone here can verify this?
otoro_315 said:
@akarandomjames -
#1. have you try the comm button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
#2. OR try the comm button+OK button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds
anyway, i'm not sure if KITL is dependend on the ROM version. because when my device was in NO GSM status, SPL is 1.04, HTC bootloader is 0108, and lost SuperCID. Because of my device is still has SPL 1.04, i was able to load WM5 full ROM upgrade using WWE HTC English QTEK_001 2.05.255.1 01/17/07 version (ROM available on this site under HERMES Upgrade link), run it twice. once you have successful load the WM5 ROM then try to do step #1 or #2 above to get KITL USB display on your screen device.
Note: i don't think KITL mode is not available once your device is in Production Mode. anyone here can verify this?
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My device is still SuperCID and I know I don't have KITL...I have SPL 1.04 as well and HTC Bootloader is 0108. I can't install any ROMs with radios as they will hang at 11/12%. I will attempt this "overload" method where it seems some people have had luck with it...after a few recoveries it just finally installs...but I don't think that will be the case.
If I can't fix this in a few days, I will most likely use my warranty or just wait for the Kaiser.
My variation of No GSM
I feel like I have problem 1A...where I am able to boot into OS but no GSM.
I am still SuperCID, SPL 1.04, HTC Bootloader 0108. Last known radio before corruption was 1.48.00.00. ROM where this problem occured: VP3G 3.60.1.
I was not even in the middle of an upgrade...just a soft reset after my phone ALREADY lost GSM capabilities during a tether session. It was stuck with no signal in Phone Mode...I put it in Flight Mode...then tried to move it back to Phone Mode and it wouldn't do so. I soft reset...and the no GSM stuck.
I tried to reinstall radio...many errors...stuck on bootloader. At first, OS's only were not installing as well but I got past that. Now I am able to boot into OS's with limited capabilities...and they will NOT ACTIVESYNC at all. Regardless of how old or new the ROM is. I tried older OS's that I knew worked in the past for me...but they refused to activesync.
Due to that, I am not able to install latest HardSPL 2.10Oli via SSPL. That seems to be the only way to do it according to my knowledge and what I've read. Maybe mtty was capable but I'm not sure. HardSPL 1.40Oli wasn't giving me any problems though, but I just wanted to have the latest one so I can avoid IPL damage.
I can only install anything if I start the device in bootloader...and I'm only limited to the OS since my Radio Bootloader seems corrupted.
I'm not sure what caused the corruption in the first place...but I feel annoying now posting on different parts of the forum with a problem that seems to be growing in the community.
UnBrick the Bricked Hermes with "SPL 2.03 - IPL 1.04 - NO GSM - KITL Disabled"
There are many people have this kind of brick but still no solution for it.
I want to ask the mods to make this thread sticky so if anyone find a sulotion for this type of brick would post it Here.
Summary :
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.03
CID: NO CID (Request timeout on mtty.exe)
NO GSM
KITL Disabled
I have tested all the possible sulotions available in the wiki but none of the could help me unbrick my hermes.
P.S. : Please just post your sulotions here NOT your comments like "you should superCID your device first", "It's your fault to use telstra wm6",....
Has anyone found a sulotion for this???
You Pm-ed me asking what to do and i pointed you in the correct direction so why have you started this thread?!
Hermes Unbricking Thread
and
Wiki page: How to unbrick your bricked hermes
EVERYTHING you need is there, you just have to read.
Maybe You do not read my Pm!
I have read all the wiki and thread concerning my problem several times!
The simple truth is that some phones are unrecoverable and have to be sent off for repair. Yours is one of these situations and I very much doubt that this will change. More and more of the pioneering technical guys will have updated their Hermes to another phone and the much admired POF has not been seen since he was accused of stealing...
The tacit feeling is that there is enough information and utilities to prevent people bricking their phones (i.e HardSPL and Update from MicroSD card) so if you do find yourself in this unfortunate position and can not recover your phone then you have to bite the bullet, and be better informed the next time.
POF accused of stealing !!!!????
What's that all about?
I dunno if I have a the same problem, but a similar issue, and trust me I am "PC guys, AMD fanboy, A+ tech:"whatever you wanna call i, I am expanding my horizons and I got into the mobile PC world. Trust me I am NOT Google lazy, i have read and read and read and researched and cross-checked and tried literally everything. I am stuck, I know what is wrong with my Hermes, I know where it messes up, and I DO see threads in other sites with 99.9% the same problem I have and I see NO soultion or anyone who knows or Really wants to help, I feel for Koorosh we need help, I have come to terms if have to send it away to repair. That bugs me I got it Literally 3 days ago, and ONLY used the OFFICAL AT&T WM6 Rom to upgrade
on my bootloader all I see is this........
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.03
I have too see in my display
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.03
when i can flash radio 1% and restart device!
try it
i also had the same problem.i have resolved using rom update through memory card.look for it in wike section.all the best.try it with original rom that came with the phone.
this will not work in this site again no solution for bricked spl2.03 cid locked
biswajitghosh said:
i also had the same problem.i have resolved using rom update through memory card.look for it in wike section.all the best.try it with original rom that came with the phone.
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Do you know to read micro sd flash not work when device is not superCID!!!
I maybe have the same issue.
From the HTC ROM I flashed my device to Shannix Grass rom, a few days later I flashed to Satin Black rom, so far so good. After that I want to flash back to Shannix Grass and my deviced crashed. While booting he stuck at the HTC screen.
I tried to hard reset, flash another rom (stuck and reset at 1%), flash the bootloader (stuck and reset at 7%). After the failed ROM flashing I get error 270 image is corrupted.
In mtty I tried to format the NAND, and tried the erase command, nothing worked.
How can I diagnose the problem further. Is it possible to see why the ROM update failed or why the OS won't boot? I did some monitoring with USB monitor but I didn't get results where I get some conclusions of.
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HTC Integrated Re-Flash Utility, Common Base Version : 1.51d
Device Name: HERM100, Bootloader Version : 2.03
Built at: Jun 16 2007 01:57:22
Copyright (c) 1998-2006 High Tech Computer Corporation
(My device is Herm200)
wow , i have the problem too. i almost live in phoneless .
.
SOLVED !!!!!!!! my phone now works
If your device became inoperable like mine, because i had a failed ROM upgrade,and the device failed to power up i have good news for ya.
MY DEVICE info is as below.
Problem:
Phone does not boot up, and looks like a red brick.
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.03
(it always gave an error 206 at 1% of any ROM update i tried)
Solution:
I downloaded the official WM6 ROM from the HTC's website below,
http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html
Then reset my device to the bootloader screen.
(holding the 'ok' button and the 'power' button and then using my stylus to push the 'reset' button close to the USB port.
i then disconnect the USB cable from my phone, and the display showed 'serial'.
i then ran the downloaded file, and waited till the collecting information from phone window came up, then i connected the usb cable back to the phone.
it connected, and VOALLA!!!... it started the update.
at least its better to have a working phone(without all the custom stuff), than none.
I hope this was not booring( with all the detail and all), but i hope it will help anyone out there who's device wont bootup.
wow , congraution!
i will take the method. but i wonder should i have to get the "connecting time" in the right point, or the computer can't find my phone??
( hope u know what i mean?)
Um.... i cant say for sure
weyun0513 said:
wow , congraution!
i will take the method. but i wonder should i have to get the "connecting time" in the right point, or the computer can't find my phone??
( hope u know what i mean?)
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Well.. i can't say you should wait 1 or 2 seconds, but just plug it in as soon as you get that screen. i hope it works for you tooo.
what was ur exact situation beforeu can unbrick ur phone???
IPL?
SPL?
KITL??
NO GSM ERROR?
what was the rom that has bricked ur device??
where did it stuck during the brick phase?
is that 1st splash,2nd splash,...??
This method did not work for me!!!!!
Try the Official Cingular ROM
koorosh_bsboys said:
This method did not work for me!!!!!
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My Hermes "red hot brick" happened when i tried upgrading to aCRCs_PHKv12r8, from a Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Full ROM.
My device is a Cingulat 8525.
The upgrade went to the tricolor screen, and after 1% , my phone magically went off. I tried powering on, but it went to the tricolor screen again showing
IPL 1.04
SPL 2.03
and underneath showed "serial".
me too i'm having the same problem....any experts out there that could help us?
HEY ALL,
I AM A FAIRLY EXPERIENCED USER WITH WM DEVICES, IN FACT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME DECENT ROMS FOR THE KAISER, BUT I AM PRETTY NEW TO THE ADVANTAGE AS I JUST PICKED ONE UP LAST WEEK. PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE IN THIS ISSUE, AS IT SEEMS JUST AN ISSUE OF ME MAKING AN EXTREMELY "ROOKIE" MISTAKE.
I HAVE READ, READ, READ AND READ SOME MORE, AS ONE SHOULD ALWAYS DO, BUT SOME HOW I GOT MYSELF INTO SOME TROUBLE WHILE RUNNING THE ATHENA UNLOCKER ON MY ADVANTAGE X7501... BIG TROUBLE...
I RAN THE UNLOCKER, AND FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, BUT WHILE THE UNLOCKER WAS RUNNING, AFTER IT ALLOOWED ME TO BACK UP MY SPL, IT WAS RUNNING SCRIPTS AS USUAL, AND I RECIVED AN UNUSUAL WINDOWS ERROR WITH THE UNLOCKER APP (PROGRAMS HAS EXPERIENCED ABNORMAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT...) THEN GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CONTINUE OR QUIT, SO I CHOSE CONTINUE, BUT THE DEVICE DID NOTHING MORE AND THE UNLOCKER BASICALLY FROZE. THE PC WAS "OK", AS FAR AS NOT BEING FROZE UP, BUT THE UNLOCKER WOULD NOT MOVE ANOTHER STEP! AFTER WAITING NEARLY AN HOUR, I DECIDED TO DISCONNECT (BAD IDEA, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, I REALIZE THIS PROBLEM IS BY ALL MEANS MY OWN FAULT!).
AFTER DISCNNECT, DEVICE APPEARED FINE UNTIL FIRST SOFT RESET, THEN I GOT NO BOOT, NO BOOTLOADER WITH ANY KEY COMBINATION, AND NOTHING ELSE. I CAN GET DEVICE TO WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE STANDARD BL SCREEN, BUT NO OLIPRO SPL, NO WRITING AT ALL, AND NO SERIAL OR USB WHEN CONNECTED OR DISCONNECTED FROM PC! ALL I HAVE IS TRI-COLOR SCREEN WITH NO WRITING, REGARDLESS OF KEY/RESET COMBINATIONS THAT I HAVE TRIED, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALL OF THEM!
I AM OUT OF OPTIONS, I WAS HOPING SOME OF MY FELLOW XDA FOLKS COULD HELP AN "IDIOT" IN NEED! I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT !
ALSO I WOULD GLADLY PROVIDE ANY MORE INFO IF NEEDED FOR FURHTER ADVICE. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda(Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Alex- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex!))
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
Attached Images
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
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HTC ADVANTAGE X7501 AT&T TILT 8925 VERIZON XV6700
THEQUARTZGUY said:
HEY ALL,
I AM A FAIRLY EXPERIENCED USER WITH WM DEVICES, IN FACT I HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME DECENT ROMS FOR THE KAISER, BUT I AM PRETTY NEW TO THE ADVANTAGE AS I JUST PICKED ONE UP LAST WEEK. PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE IN THIS ISSUE, AS IT SEEMS JUST AN ISSUE OF ME MAKING AN EXTREMELY "ROOKIE" MISTAKE.
I HAVE READ, READ, READ AND READ SOME MORE, AS ONE SHOULD ALWAYS DO, BUT SOME HOW I GOT MYSELF INTO SOME TROUBLE WHILE RUNNING THE ATHENA UNLOCKER ON MY ADVANTAGE X7501... BIG TROUBLE...
I RAN THE UNLOCKER, AND FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS, BUT WHILE THE UNLOCKER WAS RUNNING, AFTER IT ALLOOWED ME TO BACK UP MY SPL, IT WAS RUNNING SCRIPTS AS USUAL, AND I RECIVED AN UNUSUAL WINDOWS ERROR WITH THE UNLOCKER APP (PROGRAMS HAS EXPERIENCED ABNORMAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT...) THEN GAVE ME THE OPTION TO CONTINUE OR QUIT, SO I CHOSE CONTINUE, BUT THE DEVICE DID NOTHING MORE AND THE UNLOCKER BASICALLY FROZE. THE PC WAS "OK", AS FAR AS NOT BEING FROZE UP, BUT THE UNLOCKER WOULD NOT MOVE ANOTHER STEP! AFTER WAITING NEARLY AN HOUR, I DECIDED TO DISCONNECT (BAD IDEA, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, I REALIZE THIS PROBLEM IS BY ALL MEANS MY OWN FAULT!).
AFTER DISCNNECT, DEVICE APPEARED FINE UNTIL FIRST SOFT RESET, THEN I GOT NO BOOT, NO BOOTLOADER WITH ANY KEY COMBINATION, AND NOTHING ELSE. I CAN GET DEVICE TO WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE THE STANDARD BL SCREEN, BUT NO OLIPRO SPL, NO WRITING AT ALL, AND NO SERIAL OR USB WHEN CONNECTED OR DISCONNECTED FROM PC! ALL I HAVE IS TRI-COLOR SCREEN WITH NO WRITING, REGARDLESS OF KEY/RESET COMBINATIONS THAT I HAVE TRIED, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALL OF THEM!
I AM OUT OF OPTIONS, I WAS HOPING SOME OF MY FELLOW XDA FOLKS COULD HELP AN "IDIOT" IN NEED! I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT !
ALSO I WOULD GLADLY PROVIDE ANY MORE INFO IF NEEDED FOR FURHTER ADVICE. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
SORRY FOR LONG POST, JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBLE...
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Hi
You could try Hard Reset BY Volume down+Stylus reset. if it turns on and load OS then you can use the unlocker again without Sim and Memory card(but your pc must have netframe work 2.0 installed and updated). If your device failed to load OS then you have to find the original rom for your device (which you can download from this website "use the search function") then unlock your device with olipro's latest unlocker.
Good luck
I got this once when I tried to flash from the memory card.
Remove both memory and sim card and battery for 10 mins.
make sure you are disconnected from the puter.
put battery in and hold the camerabutton all the way in and press the reset pin and hopefully you will enter the bootloader proper.
Which version of olipros unlocker did you use
Try to use the last version as it is less prone to trouble and works better on x7501
see this post as well(though not exactly your problem)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374734
I would also recommend flashing from an xppro machine with the latest activesync
just reinforcing above post as well
I had a similar problem which I outlined here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368312
Notice the screenshots about a third of the way down.
Does your Advantage bootscreen look like this?
-Alex-
try inserting an SD card and boot to this strange bootloader screen
does it say Loading (then No image found)?
also, i assume you mean the PC does not see the device either?
what athena version have you all got? x7501? brand new? maybe HTC changed something about them...
Still No Luck!!! Any More Advice? It Would Be Appreciated...
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda (Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Bairda (Alex)- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex)!)
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO AT ALL THAT COULD HELP A GUY OUT! THX!
if it can't load an image from SD and PC (with XP) can't see the device, then it needs to be sent back, if possible under warranty
bad choice
hay there first time some thing like that happen to me i was stuck for hours but then i got into boot loader in flashed the pk 3.0 and it worked so if u can see the olipro 1.20 thing then its all good and if u cant then mabee ur f***d that type of error u got its supose to cum near the end
THEQUARTZGUY said:
Hey All,
Thanks For All Of Your Helpful Advice, Unfortunately, I Think Im In A Little Deeper Than That
Bairda (Alex), I Looked At Your Screen Shots From Your Post, And Yea!!! That Is Exactly What My Device Looks Like!!! I Can Load The Bootloader, But Tricolor Only!!!! No Letters/ Version Numbers/ Anything!!!! I Really Dont Know What Else To Try, As I Know How To Flash A Rom From The Storage Card, But I Cannot Even Get The Bootloader To Load Properly!!! Any Advice Bairda (Alex)- Or Anyone Else?
Again, Got Disconnected After Having Issue With 3 Step Unlocker, After 1st Soft Reset, No Boot/ No Os/ Not Bootloader Screen With Ver Numbers And Spl/.... Only Tricolor With No Writing!!! I Have Attatched Alex's Thumbnails, As It Is Exactly What Mine Is Doing... (hope Thats Ok Bairda (Alex)!)
Also, Just Note That I Am Running Vista Home Premium, With All The Latest Updates/service Packs...
Please See Pics And I Would Appreciate A Minute Of Anyones Time To Get This Thing Going... Also, I Would Of Course Be Willing To Make A Donation Of What Ever I Can Scrounge Up For Some Assistance On This Issue!
Thanks So Much!!!
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM ME OR EMAIL ME AT [email protected] IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO AT ALL THAT COULD HELP A GUY OUT! THX!
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Sorry that you are having the same problems that I did. Unfortunately, I can't bring you much comfort as I tried everything that I could find or was suggested. I searched every post and put out multiple cross-postings (that is a real sign of desperation for me!). Ultimately I had to get a new unit from Amazon as I could NOT get it back from the land of rainbow death that you see in the pics. I am no expert with the Athena/Advantage but I am also pretty experienced with computers and rarely ever get myself into a no-win like this. It takes alot for me to give up and declare a piece of equipment beyond my ability to fix, but this was one of those times.
I think that I traced the eventual cause to one (or a combination) of the following:
- Leaving the SIM and the Mini SD in the unit during the flash process
- Some glitch when using vista with the bootloader
- Using an older version of the OliPro unlocker (very likely the cause)
- Somehow panicing during the unlock and interupting the upgrade. You MUST do all three steps of the unlock to be safe.
I repeated the unlock with replacement unit being careful to use the latest bulletproof unlock and had no problems. But the original unit did have to go back.
I sincerely hope that you have better luck! Tell me how it turns out! If there is any other info you think you might be able to use from my experience, please ask away!
-Alex-
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You MUST do all three steps of the unlock to be safe.
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nope, the second and third steps are only for sim unlocking
But if you what to uprage a new Radio you have to do a SIM unlock?
cmonex said:
nope, the second and third steps are only for sim unlocking
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I stand corrected.
I would caution though, that for new users it would be best to follow the procedure through all 3 steps. As I understand it there is no harm in doing this other than the increase cost in time and effort and may be less confusing and safer then just doing the first.
Is this correct?
-Alex-
marthynovak said:
But if you what to uprage a new Radio you have to do a SIM unlock?
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nope, it's got nothing to do with the radio version
it's another area where simunlock info is stored
bairda said:
I stand corrected.
I would caution though, that for new users it would be best to follow the procedure through all 3 steps. As I understand it there is no harm in doing this other than the increase cost in time and effort and may be less confusing and safer then just doing the first.
Is this correct?
-Alex-
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well it can't do much harm, of course less flashing means less risk, and step 2 and step 3 both flash a radio.
as a newbie i'd imagine it's easier to just do step 1 because step 2 can cause corruption to the OS so it needs to be reflashed and the black screen scares the newbies etc.
What I have noticed reading this board too is that sometimes the type of USB cables used matters. I do not know why, but this happened to me too. I failed at step #2 and couldn't figure it our why. To resolve this I changed everything. From computer to usb cables to fresh files, to restore old image and re-tried the process and it worked.
Also one thing I noticed is that the old unlocked is linked allot instead of the new unlocker which is almost bullet proof. Some folks did download the old unlocker and tried it on their x7501 and bricked their device....
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Problem Resolved!!! Please Read, Very Important Information!!!
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
THEQUARTZGUY said:
OK EVERYONE, MY PROBLEM IS RESOLVED, BUT I WANTED TO POST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW FOLKS... AFTER HAVING THE ISSUES ABOVE, I CONSULTED WITH MANY PEOPLE TO TRY MANY, MANY METHODS OF RECOVERING THE DEVICE. ALL ATTEMPTS TO RECOVER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, AS IT APPEARS THAT I USED THE INCORRECT UNLOCKER!!!
BASICALLY, THE UNLOCKER THAT I USED IS THE OLDER ONE, THAT SHOULD NEVER BE USED ANYMORE! AFTER THE SPL WAS ERASED, THE PROCESS ENCOUNTERED AN ERROR BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO RE-FLASH THE NEW SPL. I HAPPENED TO CALL HTC AS A LAST RESORT, AN ONLY TOLD THEM THAT MY PHONE WOULD NOT TURN ON. I THEN SENT IT TO THEM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT EVEN THOUGH I PURCHASED THE DEVICE USED, IT IS STILL UNDER WARRANTY DURING THE APPLICABLE DATES (WHICH IS 15 MONTHS FROM DATE OF MFG).
SO IN SHORT, THEY REPLACED MY MOTHERBOARD, AS THEY FLASH MEMORY CHIP WAS UNABLE TO BE RE-FLASHED. LUCKLIY, I WAS ABLE TO GET MY DEVICE REPLACED AT NO COST, BUT THIS MISTAKE COULD COST SOMEONE A $1000 DEVICE!!!
AS A RECAP, I AM LISTING A LINK TO THE GOOD ADVANTAGE X7501 UNLOCKER, AND A LINK TO THE OLD ONE, WHICH SHOULD NOT BE USED FOR THE X7501, IN MY EXPERIENCE... IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED BY A REPUTABLE SENIOR MEMBER THAT THE OLD/BAD UNLOCKER SHOULD NOT BE USED AS WELL.
-GOOD/SAFE X7501 UNLOCKER: (FILE CALLED ATHENAWRAPPER, IN FIRST POST): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316846
-BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
HOPE THIS INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR EVERYONE! IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY EXPERIENCE LED TO.
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Hi there,
Thanks indeed for the important info. I haven't yet tried the unlocker. But to my understanding the link " -BAD/OLD X7501 UNLOCKER, READ 1ST POST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831"
points to the latest version of the unlocker. The file I have downloaded is dated in November 2007. This is not correct? And what does the wrapper mean?
Could you please explain? I bought my X7501 in the US, but live in Europe and such a mistake could be totally fatal!
Thanks for your feedback.
Regarding The "bad" Unlocker....
Hey Dodonian / Everyone,
Yea, I Agree That It Is Somewhat Confusing About The "latest" Unlocker Version, But While Dealing With The Issues I Have Had Lately, I Spoke With Olipro, Who Makes The Unlocker, And When I Sent Him The Link That I Labeled Bad In The Last Post, He Replied That It Appeared I Had Tried The Older One, And That The Link To The Other One Labeled "good" Was Infact The Best One.
I Could, I Guess, In Some Way Be Mislead Here, But Just For Your Info, I Did Just Receive My Fixed Advantage X7501 Today, And Immediately Ran The "athena_wrapper" Which Is Availible On The "good" Link That I Posted. It Ran Good And Flashed Directly From The Bootloader. Afterwards, I Was Able To Flash My Own Custom Rom With No Difficulty, And All Went Well.
Hope This Answers Your Question!
---ryan
THEQUARTZGUY said:
Hey Dodonian / Everyone,
Yea, I Agree That It Is Somewhat Confusing About The "latest" Unlocker Version, But While Dealing With The Issues I Have Had Lately, I Spoke With Olipro, Who Makes The Unlocker, And When I Sent Him The Link That I Labeled Bad In The Last Post, He Replied That It Appeared I Had Tried The Older One, And That The Link To The Other One Labeled "good" Was Infact The Best One.
I Could, I Guess, In Some Way Be Mislead Here, But Just For Your Info, I Did Just Receive My Fixed Advantage X7501 Today, And Immediately Ran The "athena_wrapper" Which Is Availible On The "good" Link That I Posted. It Ran Good And Flashed Directly From The Bootloader. Afterwards, I Was Able To Flash My Own Custom Rom With No Difficulty, And All Went Well.
Hope This Answers Your Question!
---ryan
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Thanks Ryan!
I see. I know that the X7501 is sold unlocked in the US and therefore only the 1st step of flashing the SPL would make sense. That means that if run the athena wrapper, all will be OK for flashing radio, ROM etc. I that correct?
Two more questions, if you don't mind.
1.Did you need to install .NET to run the Athena wrapper?, or is it kind of pre-installed mostly?
2.What is your experience with the cooked ROMs? Running stable? Can you flash back the original ROM if required?
Thanks
Dod.
I ran the 'wrapper' this week, step 1 only, so I could upgrade the radio driver. I first ran the bad unlocker and got the 'black screen of death', but after reflashing a good ROM, then the good 'wraapper', then the latest radio all is well.