All rite here we go, in advanced i thank u guys for trying to help me out here.
First, i'm a n00bie compared with the most of u guys.
My Device:
Tytn Herm 300
OS: Schaps Purple 3.30c
SPL: Hard-Spl 2.10 oli
Radio: 1.16.00.00 !Hmzz...that's the problem!
My phone functionallity sucks...some how it keep loosing connection while i see the phone indication bar up to 3 bars. So i decided to do something about it.
Beeing a noob i thought it got to do something with the OS. So i upgrade it to Schaps's wonderfull purple WM6 Hermes 3.30c and loaded the Hard SPL 2.10 oil V7. All went great, and my Hermes never looked so cool before.
But now i'm trying to upgrade my radio, which is still version 1.16.00.00, to what ever better version. I tried every radio upgrade possible from this list:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...actedRadioRoms
Every single one starts well. passed the information retrieving from my phone. Confirmed the update, and then there was the installation progress bar....
All versions of the radio roms i downloaden get stuck in here. It doesn't even start..0% and error... And really i dun have any idea why.
So after re-flashing a gazillion times, i decided to ask help to the allmighty XDA community. So pls, if anybody there got a suggestion or the solution...i would be so thankfull and will slaughter a goat to worship you
If you've got schaps Rom and HardSPL on your phone then you obviously don't have problems flashing or with PC/phone comms.
When you try flashing the radio, how long do you wait before deciding it doesn't work? I've found that some of them can take what seems like a really long time and I'm tempted to unplug and start again.
Maybe try again, then go make yourself a cup of tee/coffee or get a beer then come back 10 minutes later. If the upgrade still hasn't worked we'll have to look a bit deeper
RaDeNRFX said:
- I am so sorry posting this twice in the wrong sections, it seems that i'm a really noobie forum user - But i finally found the rite section. So my humble excuses.
All rite here we go, in advanced i thank u guys for trying to help me out here.
First, i'm a n00bie compared with the most of u guys.
My Device:
Tytn Herm 300
OS: Schaps Purple 3.30c
SPL: Hard-Spl 2.10 oli
Radio: 1.16.00.00 !Hmzz...that's the problem!
My phone functionallity sucks...some how it keep loosing connection while i see the phone indication bar up to 3 bars. So i decided to do something about it.
Beeing a noob i thought it got to do something with the OS. So i upgrade it to Schaps's wonderfull purple WM6 Hermes 3.30c and loaded the Hard SPL 2.10 oil V7. All went great, and my Hermes never looked so cool before.
But now i'm trying to upgrade my radio, which is still version 1.16.00.00, to what ever better version. I tried every radio upgrade possible from this list:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...actedRadioRoms
Every single one starts well. passed the information retrieving from my phone. Confirmed the update, and then there was the installation progress bar....
All versions of the radio roms i downloaden get stuck in here. It doesn't even start..0% and error... And really i dun have any idea why.
So after re-flashing a gazillion times, i decided to ask help to the allmighty XDA community. So pls, if anybody there got a suggestion or the solution...i would be so thankfull and will slaughter a goat to worship you
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ach2 said:
If you've got schaps Rom and HardSPL on your phone then you obviously don't have problems flashing or with PC/phone comms.
When you try flashing the radio, how long do you wait before deciding it doesn't work? I've found that some of them can take what seems like a really long time and I'm tempted to unplug and start again.
Maybe try again, then go make yourself a cup of tee/coffee or get a beer then come back 10 minutes later. If the upgrade still hasn't worked we'll have to look a bit deeper
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I waited till the Program says connection error...and send me to recovery proces. And i've been making hella tons of coffee after trying to flash that many Radio Roms. Any other suggestions? I'm so desperate
Ok, maybe some more info...
Do you see 'NO GSM' during the phone boot process?
Do you have no radio at all or just intermittent reception?
Are you running Vista?
What is the connection error number?
If you've lost the radio but have hard SPL it may just be a case of re-flashing an original manufacturers ROM (which will include the radio) then start your upgrading again afterwards. Don't forget to back-up data before flashing.
If you do flash a manufacturers shipped rom - check that you still have HardSPL afterwards.
ach2 said:
Ok, maybe some more info...
Do you see 'NO GSM' during the phone boot process?
Do you have no radio at all or just intermittent reception?
Are you running Vista?
What is the connection error number?
If you've lost the radio but have hard SPL it may just be a case of re-flashing an original manufacturers ROM (which will include the radio) then start your upgrading again afterwards. Don't forget to back-up data before flashing.
If you do flash a manufacturers shipped rom - check that you still have HardSPL afterwards.
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Well the weird part is "No GSM" appeared occasionally...some times it shows it sometimes it's not showing it.
No...i'm a Vista hater. And dun have the original manufacturers ROM. I've got the "T-Mobile Vario II" from The Netherlands..so if anybody got a link for the original version i'd be thankfull.
The Radio it self is intermittent and very inpredictable...for example:
Radio indicator says i got full recieve:...but i can't call or recieve any.
Connection error: 262 (which is, if i'm not mistake a connection error.) Which is bull cuz i'm re-running every other ROM's upload with the same way and succeded/
Radio indicator says no reception and shows an exclamation mark:...and my GF just called me to hurry up and pick her up :/
But the weird part is...it seems that my radio ROM is locked somehow. I can upgrade or downgrade SPL's and OS ROM's but not the Radio ROM.
I've tried to use MTTY by now and followed the manual bellow: (Problem 5)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem5
But it began with invalid password. Procede as written and it didn't helped.
More suggestions are welcome
My bad...i didn't looked well enough. It is saying No GSM the whole time.
More information:
I've checked the Device information on the Hermes now some information are blank:
Radio: Blank
Protocol version: Blank
IMEI: Blank
All other information field are filled. Been spending hours reading tutorials and manuals...and nothing. HELP!
OK,
This isn't a problem I've had myself, but loads of other people have and there are quite a few threads on how to unbrick from here... you're going to have to do a bit of reading.
This page shows the different combinations of OS/radio/brick type etc and should point you in the right direction for the correct course of action http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
Then read through this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755 . It's got really long but read the beginning where POF describes the types of problem and also the solutions. Then it's probably best to jump to somewhere near the end and pick someone who has a similar problem.
It sounds to me as though you need to just flash a radio in nbh format, but please do some more reading before you do this to check my advice - as I said at the beginning, I haven't had this problem so I'm only giving advice from what others have written.
ach2 said:
It sounds to me as though you need to just flash a radio in nbh format, but please do some more reading before you do this to check my advice - as I said at the beginning, I haven't had this problem so I'm only giving advice from what others have written.
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I am really thankfull of ur post. Unfortunately, i've been doing some reading. Including the link u gave me. The problem is that i can't upload/flash Radio in nhb format.
As i described in the first place, i can't load a nhb format radio in RUUWrapper.exe properly. It can start the proces..but it always end up with a connection error code 260/262 during the installation progres bar (0%).
The solutions some ppl tried in ur link is often not my case. And the similar cases i have tried where i end up with the same grumpfy situation.
have you tried to flash the radio using the SD card method? I too have a cable connection problem but I fear mine may be hardware failure.
Yap...and no luck
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Hi!
long time viewer first time poster.
I have G4 CID LOCKED Cingular 8125 with mfrazzz's Crossbow Reloaded 1.7.1 I have wizard love Rom as Base.
I really tried hard to update (I guess it is really a downgrade) my original Radio from 02.25.11 to 2.19.11 but no matter what I do, it failed.
I tried with every romupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe i could find but I get the same result everytime.
ON PC: I get 260 Error (tried in two machines same error message)
and
On my Wizard: stuck in this 3 colored screen. I see 3 color screen with "RUU" in right upper corner and "USB" on left bottom with IPL/SPL version showing in red If i press reset button, it will boot back to mobile windows fine.
Can anybody help me?
My rest device info:
ROM Version: 2.18.0.0 WWE
ROM date:2/14/06
IPL/SPL: 2.25.0001
GSM:02.25.11
Protocol version? 4.1.13.12
ExtROM version: faria V5.0
My Downgrade
All I did was use the rom upgrade utility from the "wizard love rom" (the one that is in Italian) and the T-mobile radio rom listed in the Wiki.
Worked like a charm!
thanks for the reply..
but of course i tried that already.
i think error 260 is communication related issue. PC communicate perfectly with ActiveSync.. but when it reboot for the flashing to occur,it just get stucked as if pc is not communicating with the wizard.
is downgrade to 2.19.11 really worthy?
nic2mit said:
thanks for the reply..
but of course i tried that already.
i think error 260 is communication related issue. PC communicate perfectly with ActiveSync.. but when it reboot for the flashing to occur,it just get stucked as if pc is not communicating with the wizard.
is downgrade to 2.19.11 really worthy?
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Is your device actually booting up? If so, just download one of the radio ONLY roms. It won't matter whether you have a CID locked phone or not and the radio ONLY rom will not touch the IPL/SPL.
Having said that, is there a reason why you want to downgrade to 2.19? Are you having missed calls issues?
Hi titus666,
I am having the same ROM and missed call issues too.Even when i am on a full coverage area my wizard signals seems to dropping,coming back,dropping ....
What could be the probalem .Any recommended Radio ROMS's.
Probably you read this already
xdawiz said:
Hi titus666,
I am having the same ROM and missed call issues too.Even when i am on a full coverage area my wizard signals seems to dropping,coming back,dropping ....
What could be the probalem .Any recommended Radio ROMS's.
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A little bit off regarding your initial post but here´s good feedback on how both radios behave.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312834
I've had some problems as well.
I used the tool that came in the download to downgrade to 2.19 (I am having missed calls problem) and it won't.
I'm using a Windows Vista and already did the whole thing to update drivers with the one given on the forum over here, yet, everytime I run the thing it crashes and then I have to go through it all over again.
Its like the driver just doesn't work anymore, even though I have tried "re-updating" it to the one that I downloaded here, unlike the real Roms this one just won't go throguh and wait for the 3 colored screen to come up, just freezes before.
Appologize for posting the thread twice... I wasn't sure if this goes to the Hermes or the Herald forum...
Hello All,
I recently got an ATT 8525 and I'm trying to use it with my T-Mobile (US) SIM. I was able to successfully unlock the SIM and CID with an util/rom I found on this site (I think the post was from Pof). And I also re-flashed the phone with the latest ROM available.
But after about 5-10mins of usage the signal dies and when I reboot it says No GSM. Looks like the Radio ROM gets corrupted. I tried just re-flashing the Radio ROM and that doesn't help either. It works for short while and again the signal dies.
And also, I'm unable to install any of the generic ROMs (Fantastic Mobiz, PVET 40005) Although I'm connected to Active Sync when I run the Step 1 (ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G3.exe), I get a ERROR [222] : DEVICE NOT RESPONDING. And when I run the step 2 directly (update_rom.bat) I get an cannot update itsutils.dll maybe in use error.
As you can tell I've been messing with phone a lot for a couple of days with no luck and my frustration level is kinda high
As of now here’s where I stand. I re-flashed the phone (Image: 3.62, Radio 1.50) and it’s on the “Tap the screen to set up your windows based mobile device” screen. I plan on leaving it on this screen until I can a good solution.
I would like to get rid of the ATT ROM and install one of those hybrid generic ROM that is not Carrier specific. Any help will be much appreciated. Share your ideas, I’m very experimental
Phone Details…
ATT 8525
HERM100
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 1.40.0 lipro
ok ur going all over the map here.. did u hardspl first? also pvet 40005 isnt a hermes rom.. um try hardspl first THEN flash to a new rom maybe once you successfully do that then try a new 3.62 rom.. i run austinsync buts its naked..just like i like my women. ha. but if ur looking for a full blown try fun_key's rom or blinkys.. these arent carrier dependent
hey man jakeypoo, Thanks for your reply. I kinda figured that I was all over the map.
Okay first appologize my ignorance. What is a HardSPL? I did a search on this forum and I found Hard-SPL-V7.zip. Is this a good version to use? Also when I run the exe, All options are grayed out except for "Force Using SSPL" and "Is it Hard-SPL". What do I select.
Thanks!
Hardspl v7 is the latest version out there, its the one for you to use so that you're safe from future mishaps.
I also have an 8525 on T-mobile... so no worries.
Hope this helps.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HardSPL
still problems (no gsm)
Thanks whistler4ever. That link was really a great help.
Here's what I did...
1. Installed the Hard SPL version 6
2. Installed the latest ATT ROM (ver 3.62 radio: 1.54) I had to do this because the radio on the phone was corrupt (says "no GSM" on the start screen) and couldn't install just the radio rom. kept giving connection errors.
3. Installed Schap's WM6 Pro 3.57 hoping this would get ride of the ATT ROM and my intial problem (no GSM) will go away.
Everything was fine for like 15 mins, then my phone just froze. I reboot the phone and sure enough the radio ROM was gone (no gsm). ;(
Running out of ideas.
1. Could this problem be because I'm using a TMobile SIM on a ATT's radio ROM?
2. Is the radio ROM specific to the phone type and provider(ATT, TMO..)? Is there a generic WM 6 radio rom? If yes, where can I find the latest version?
3. Any bright ideas?
Thanks again!
Current phone details...
ATT 8525
HERM100
IPL: 1.04
SPL: 2.10
ROM 3.62
Radio: no gsm
I was able to flash just the radio ROM - version 1.51. But again after a few hours the Radio got currupted. I also tried to follow the instruction ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem5 ) to use the mtty.exe utility, but I don't get a USB prompt. I get Cmd prompt and if I still enter the password, it says invalid password. please help!!!
And how do I do the USB monitor capture? I could post more details that way. I'm using my girl friend's old razr now and it's painful!
I have used my t-mobile sim on AT&T rom's and other roms with no problem. I would try going back to a factory rom and then changing back to a cooked rom just to confirm its all a clean install. also, try downgrading your radio to a 1.47 or 1.48 (those have been proved pretty reliable across many cell providers).
Thanks Whistler. I'm going to start with the 1.48 version and if that doesn't work I'll try the 1.47 version. Not giving up on this.
I found 1.47 to work very well with t-mobile even when traveling...
Thanks Galaxys. I just installed the 1.47 radio. I have fully signal and the 'E', but I can't receive or make calls.
It almost looks like my TMO SIM is not compatible with the 8525. It always works for the first few minutes after an install and then stops working.
I'm very certain the phone is in good condition.
Should I try an older radio version.. like a 1.24 or something ?
Can I install just the tmobile radio rom?
I'm also going to install TNT 2.0 pro so I have the exact same set up as you and see if that makes a difference.
no luck!!!
wow... after all this time and effort still no luck. There's got to be something very basic that I'm not doing right. Senior members any help???
I have spent a lot of time reading the wiki pages and dead hermes thread. Tried out a lot of suggestions listed.
try the way i posted in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337125
ajjus said:
wow... after all this time and effort still no luck. There's got to be something very basic that I'm not doing right. Senior members any help???
I have spent a lot of time reading the wiki pages and dead hermes thread. Tried out a lot of suggestions listed.
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Sounds like your doing everything right, because your flashed rom, radio, and Edge network are all functional. Since only the GSM calls don't work, I would go back to Tmobile and get a a new Sim card installed (they should do this for nothing & test it while at the store).
Also, if U got this device on ebay your IMEI could be blocked. see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322587
Try to flash the entire UK T-Mobile ROM, then remove the internet settings and install the correct CAB for T-Mobile.
UK ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337163
PROVIDER SETTINGS CAB: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311446
a-h-t1, Junner2003 and galaxys - I'll try all your suggestions.
a-h-t1 - The first 2 steps went through fine. While I install the radio ROM as part of step 3, the installation doesn't go past 0%
I'm going try Junner2003 idea now. I'll keep everyone posted on my progress.
install stops at 11%
Hi Junner2003,
I was trying to istall the UK Tmo ROM you suggested and it stops always at 11%. I've had this problem with other ROMs as well (12%) but after a few tries the installatons goes past it, but real slow. Any ideas?
Thanks for sending me the links... very helpful!
galaxys said:
Sounds like your doing everything right, because your flashed rom, radio, and Edge network are all functional. Since only the GSM calls don't work, I would go back to Tmobile and get a a new Sim card installed (they should do this for nothing & test it while at the store).
Also, if U got this device on ebay your IMEI could be blocked. see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322587
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Hi Galaxys,
I don't think the IMEI is blocked. Or maybe it is, how do I find out? I don't have any of the symptons listed on the link you sent (don't hear the beeps or anything).
I originally had a T-Mobile wing. The LCD screen cracked (don't know how). And ofcourse TMo won't replace it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335346
I got 8525 from my company. It's almost new. Only used for a day on an AT&T SIM. This phone is free, and so I really don't have much to lose... so all out experimenting
Tried insalling from the micro card, even that stops while installing GSM. pissed!!! Why would the darn Radio not update???
this may sound stupid but if all else fails, why not...
my mda use to have signal then it would just disappear as well after 15 min or less..
turns out the sim card wasnt pressed in properly.. so i just put a piece of paper on top of the sim card to make it thicker and get the battery to press it down harder. and it solved all my problems...
just a suggestion..good luck
ajjus said:
Hi Junner2003,
I was trying to istall the UK Tmo ROM you suggested and it stops always at 11%. I've had this problem with other ROMs as well (12%) but after a few tries the installatons goes past it, but real slow. Any ideas?
Thanks for sending me the links... very helpful!
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See this post here for a possible reason (and technical explanation/theory) for your device stalling during radio update. The fix suggestions at the bottom of the page may help you - in particular :
Try cooling the device down a bit before flashing as the PIC chip (where your radio ROM is held) may flash more reliably/easier when cool. Don't ask why - that's from it's datasheet ;-)
The paper on the SIM card is a good idea too to rule out dodgy SIM connection - Great idea r0mmel
Hi,
i have one bricked Hermes,and I've tried all the methods that i read ever and i explained completely here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1571302&postcount=1548 but no result.
yesterday i tried SD method with wm6 ROM that i downloaded from htc sit ,but i had this on my screen:
HERMIMG.nbh-
IPL - OK
BOOTLOADER - OK
SPLASH1 - OK
SPLASH2 - OK
EXTROM - OK
GSM -
OS -
Update In Progress...
it freezes at GSM!!i waited 45min,but nothing changed,then i take out the battery.
do you know why?and what can i do?
sorry for my bad English.
hamed_ppc said:
Hi,
i have one bricked Hermes,and I've tried all the methods that i read ever and i explained completely here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1571302&postcount=1548 but no result.
yesterday i tried SD method with wm6 ROM that i downloaded from htc sit ,but i had this on my screen:
HERMIMG.nbh-
IPL - OK
BOOTLOADER - OK
SPLASH1 - OK
SPLASH2 - OK
EXTROM - OK
GSM -
OS -
Update In Progress...
it freezes at GSM!!i waited 45min,but nothing changed,then i take out the battery.
do you know why?and what can i do?
sorry for my bad English.
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Hi I have the same problem, radio refuse to flash, something wrong with my radio chip, I have a OS but no gsm. "Welcome to the club" But, I don't know how to solve that problem.
eraserbabyboy said:
Hi I have the same problem, radio refuse to flash, something wrong with my radio chip, I have a OS but no gsm. "Welcome to the club" But, I don't know how to solve that problem.
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ok,we can continue this thread to find the solution,is there anybody knows how we can fix this problem??
is it a hardware problem??i wish it isn't.
hamed_ppc said:
ok,we can continue this thread to find the solution,is there anybody knows how we can fix this problem??
is it a hardware problem??i wish it isn't.
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I think that is hardware problem. I flash only OS, without radio and now my hermes work only as PDA, wi-fi and BT also work, but still no gsm.
eraserbabyboy said:
I think that is hardware problem. I flash only OS, without radio and now my hermes work only as PDA, wi-fi and BT also work, but still no gsm.
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ok,but how we can fix it?Should we replace something in our pda??
i want to know is it fixable or not??
hamed_ppc said:
ok,but how we can fix it?Should we replace something in our pda??
i want to know is it fixable or not??
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I don't know. In my country I have a htc services and they say to me that my motherboard must be replaced because is to hard to change only radio chip and they only change all motherboard. For 350 Eur(+some Eur) I can by new Tytn. Now I use my pda in my home (in toalet) via wireles to look internet. Work's fine, but sometimes freeze OS and I must do soft reset.
ok guys , i might found a temp solution or maybe it will work permenantely with some one , but i need some one who have spare time and steel nerves coz i'm sick and tired of trying many files and roms and radios .
so any one is willing to start this experiment with his hermes and his spare-time lets begin .
first of all i want to declare that this method revived my radio and i used my device for one day just fine receiving and making calls . then the next day i decided to make a hard reset to see if the radio will stay working , and the result was the radio was dead .
here we go .
1.flash you device with GM360 gold edition http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329282 don't ask why just try it .
2.after the phone is flashed with gm360 and working ok with no radio or "no gsm" messege now you should flash your phone with your device manufacturer WM5 ROM .
3. to flash WM5 rom you need to follow mr.vanx guide for safe WM5 downgrade . http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=26 here it is .
4. now after you've flashed WM5 successfully and your device is also working fine with it but still no radio or "no gsm" . you need to flash only radio to your device . no OS only the radio .
5. download this radio . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334697 and unrar it on some folder . and don't flash it yet to your device .
6 download Olipro RUUwraper 5.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298737 there u go.
7. now the files from step "5" which they are the radio 1.54 put the file ruuwrapper from step "6" in the same folder with them to start the radio upgrade using "RUUWrapper.exe" not "ROMUpgradeUt.exe" . when u run it you will have multiple choices , choose "Force Unsafe SSPL (not recommended)" . .
now the radio upgrade should go smoothly as it went for me the first time . after the radio upgrade is done u should be able to use ur radio fine .
now can some one take half the effort of me writing this long method and try it ? thanx for the feedback also .
good luck for all .
feedback
Just now I finished all, by your instruction, step by step. When do the last step, flashing radio rom it's stuck on 0%. Many thank's for help, but it does not work for me.
a-h-t1,
thx for your discription,I'll try your method as soon as i can(because ADSL isn't much available!!)
eraserbabyboy,
can you tell me when did this problem happen to you(i mean loosing GSM)??did it happen when you was flashing WM6 ROM??
I really want to know why this problem happen to me while i didn't have it before flashing??is flashing cause to a hardware problem???
eraserbabyboy,
can you tell me when did this problem happen to you(i mean loosing GSM)??did it happen when you was flashing WM6 ROM??
I really want to know why this problem happen to me while i didn't have it before flashing??is flashing cause to a hardware problem???[/QUOTE]
Hamed I dont know what's happened with my hermes, because I get him with the no gsm error. I have a bootloader 1.09 with enable kitl mode. In PB I lose many, many night to boot os but without sucess. And post many question here, but without answer, a-h-t1 is the first men who try to help and meny 10x for that.
So, before 2 week I send my hermes to Imei-check and before few days I get it back with bootloader 1.01 mfg and instruction from imei teamroblem_Description: The radio chip is faulty 100%. Now the handset is usable as PDA only (wifi + bluetooth working too), but not as a phone (the GSM module refuse to answer/flash).
DO NOT attempt to upgrade the firmware in the phone with a firmware which has RADIO upgrade, as it will put the handset back to the brick mode!!!
Model is SVP3100.[/COLOR][/COLOR]
After that I put the SPL 2.30 Olipro to prevent any future damage, and continuing to "play" and experiment, because I don't have more than, to loose. I have P3300 who work's very nice....
It's possible to boot any OS without radio. (I use nbh tool 1.01 to extract nbh file to nb and after make Ruu_signed but without radio).Also try metod via SD card and same to you, stop when try to flash radio. Also it's happened on 12-13%(independed of the rom version) when start full RUU upgrade. And when try to flashing only radio they stop on 0%. On 12-13% ruu upgrade try to flash radio in this moment, and this is the end. I am not sure is this hardware problems, but imei (I dont belived too much) said YES. In win OS I don't have a imei identification (in device info/identity) and of course radio version is blank. Sometimes happened that os blocked(freeze) or device just totaly go to power off mode and I must to do soft reset. Is any way to totaly disabled phone function in registry? I mean that freeze when phone try to find network or sim, but I am not shure. Last night I open my devices, and get out motherboard, just to see this famously radio chip. It's not possible in "home made" to change yourself this chip. Only if I have a more lucky and found some broken hermes with ok motherboard for 100-150 eur...
I hope that my info just little help to you to know "mystery" about our problems.
And one more time 10x to a-h-t1!
eraserbabyboy said:
Just now I finished all, by your instruction, step by step. When do the last step, flashing radio rom it's stuck on 0%. Many thank's for help, but it does not work for me.
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I just tried it and same result like you
but many thx for a-h-t1 and eraserbabyboy's help.now I want to try fix it in hardware way!!
but if anyone has idea about our problem please say here.i think it's going to be common problem,because i see many people in xda who has the same problem.
Read this, to see how I solve my problem. But I still have a hope, that it's not hardware problem and in the future I hope that someone will found software key to solve our corrupted radio.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338413
ok,i think it was almost three months ago that i had posted my last post!!
you know my problem and i feel it has became a common problem for poeple who have hermes,unfortunately.
last week,i found a service man who believed that my phone's problem is fixable.
so i gave my pda to him,and because he lives in another city,i returned to mine and waited for him.
yesterday i phoned him,and this is what he said to me:
"first,I tried software methods,but the result was nothing!then I disassembled the device and changed the piece of RF of your ppc.it hung first,but now it loads the windows and find the antenna too!!but immediatly after finding,it hangs."
he has used the Dopod's RF in my htc TyTN and thinks that this problem(hanging after finding the antenna) is because of not matched radiorom.
I have good feel about his say,and i'm trying to help him find the correct radio rom,because he is so busy and cant search the internet to find the radiorom.so I've mailed him the link of wiki's radio rom for hermes and I hope someday this tragedy will finish but i'm not sure.
if anyone have comment about this case please help us,specialy about the RF,because I don't know anything about the Radio Frequency.
I HAD the EXACT same problem I Hermes would get stuck at 11% EVERYtime I tried to flash the OS rom with WM6!! The upgrade process would start and then [email protected]! 11% and I would get ERROR 262 (loss of communication) No FIX anywhere, even with site full of "supposed Hermes Fanboys" Nothing NOBODY knows nothing bout this issue. BUT I think I have found a fix (I have recovered twice gonna do it 1 more time to confirm METHOD)
1a
Its called a 1a brick. Look in the sticky brick section. like 170+ pages of this issue. I believe I have the same device. No GSM/ no imei no radio. Can flash rom's all day long, as long as rom doesnt include GSM. Try to flash ANY GSM does nothing, let it sit 10hrs... Nice free PDA, till i can figure out the wiki & there must be hope for me. Till then my wiz100 keeps rocking. Like the 8525, but wanted it more as a phone then just pda.
nicknowsky said:
I HAD the EXACT same problem I Hermes would get stuck at 11% EVERYtime I tried to flash the OS rom with WM6!! The upgrade process would start and then [email protected]! 11% and I would get ERROR 262 (loss of communication) No FIX anywhere, even with site full of "supposed Hermes Fanboys" Nothing NOBODY knows nothing bout this issue. BUT I think I have found a fix (I have recovered twice gonna do it 1 more time to confirm METHOD)
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I hope you will fix your device,but when I read about your solution,I felt that guy who brought back to life your device,has just used a ROM whitout GSM,the way that we have been using since months ago.if I'm in mistake so tell us more.
The end of the Tragedy
o0o0k!!
as I've said in my post,the service man that I love! replaced the RF of my pda,but new problem was hanging after finding the antena!!
as he told me yesterday,he tried another used RF,but this time the TyTN's one and it worked) and there is no problem.so after 4 months nearly I can use my pda.
as soon as I can,I will go to get my device and test it myself.
be wait for my smooth experience!!
What is this???
replaced the RF of my pda
Andrey_ORIN said:
What is this???
replaced the RF of my pda
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its full name is RFSP=Radio Frequency Signal Processor.it's one of ICs on your Hermes mainboard.it needs a professional to replace.I'll explain more early.
but if you have same problem and have tried all of the the wiki methods then you can test my solution.
Hi guys. Mass apologies for my stupidity, but here goes...
I have now spent over 2 days on this site reading all that I can, but I am at a loss and desperate for your expertise!
I am running a UK Tmobile Vario 2. I was having problems with the phone crashing constantly and not getting any signal at all so I installed WM6 yesterday hoping this would help. Its not crashing as much, but its still not getting any signal.
After reading loads of threads and posts all over the place (I have read enough WIKI to make my eyes bleed), I think I need to update the radio version. This is the information I can gather from my phone:
Bootloader info-
Herm300
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.03
I cant figure out how to enter commands in bootloader to gather any more info I tried the mtty.exe thing with no avail. When I go to "device information" it reads like this:
ROM version: 3.60.110.4
ROM date: 09/05/07
Radio version: SAYS NOTHING!!!!
Protocol version: SAYS NOTHING!!
IMEI: SAYS NOTHING!!
When I do a soft reset I get red letters and numbers appearing and not the "no gsm" message.
This is a 2nd hand phone off of ebay as my original phone was stolen. I have contacted Tmobile, but they refuse to help me as its not the original phone that I bought.
I would be most grateful for any help you can give me!!
Thanks,
April
OK, firstly.....flash hardspl.........instructions here
Next flash ANY radio......try version 1.48.00.10.
with the device booted up and synched with Activesync, download the radio ROM, unzip and run the RUUprogram (the only exe in the zip).
select autodetect, it should highlite SPL v2.10 and tick the "HardSPL?" box.
go through each screen and accept everything......the radio will be flashed.
Hopefully your device will work properly after this.
uh oh...
Thanks so much for your speedy response. Obviously I managed to screw this up.
got to this stage
"select autodetect, it should highlite SPL v2.10 and tick the "HardSPL?" box."
It didnt autodetect, so selected SPL v2.10 and ticked "HardSPL" box manually. Went through all the other bits and when it starts to do its thing it just sits at 0% then i get error message "ERROR 262: UPDATE ERROR. The rom update utility has encountered communication errors during the update process. THe program will guide you step by step to recover from the errors so you can continue with the update."
So I followed the recovery process instructions several times. Nothing has worked. Have tried restarting my computer and doing a hard reset on phone, and stuck with the bootloader screen reading IPL 1.04 and HERM300 SPL-2.10.01Olipro.
Manage to get back to this stage
"select autodetect, it should highlite SPL v2.10 and tick the "HardSPL?" box."
and go through the ticks but always ends up with error message 262.
SORRY!
Sorry to hear about your problems.
Was it the official T-Mobile WM6 ?
If so it was another 1.50 Radio!
I have same now!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357275
I read in another thread try putting phone in fridge for 15mins first without the battery.
Good Luck
fridge vs. floor
Yes, it was the official WM6 from T-Mobile.
Im worried now that my limited experience with flashing, cooking, and now crying will leave me with a proper "brick".
I will try the fridge thing, if I ever get it to loads WM6 again but for the mean time, I will continue to throw it on the floor.
What do you mean by it was another 1.50 radio? I dont know what version I once had, but as suggested by mrvanx, I was trying to upload the 1.48.00.01.
Again apologies for my complete ignorance, but Im sure there are others that share my stupidity and will benefit from me asking goofy questions. If anyone else has any more simpleton advice on how to revive my poor phone, I would be much obliged!
Thanks,
April
The 1.50 radio bit; If it was the official T-Mobile WM6 upgrade, then your radio will have been 1.50 (I am pretty sure)
I dont know what else to do!!??
Ok since trying to update my radio from nothing to 1.48.00.01 and receiving error message 262 during the update, my phone now only goes into bootloader mode reading the following:
HERM300
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.10.0lipro
I have tried the following to bring it back to life (but not in any particular order):
- restarted my pc several times
- made sure my Windows XP SP2 was up to date
- made sure I had .net framework up to date
- hard reset on phone
- soft reset on phone
- leaving battery out overnight
- updating SPL to 2.10.0lipro (again) doesnt get to any percentage, just straight to error 260
- updating radio to 1.48.00.01 (again) - wont autodetect. tried radio button SPL2.10, then just force safe, then just HardSPL. each option dies at 0% then error message 262)
- reinstalling TMobile version WM6 (again) - dies at 11% - error message 262
I saw the post by pof "How to unbrick your bricked hermes" and the solution was to "Flash any radio in NBH format", but I cant figure out how to do that!? (I have tried clicking on the nbh file in the downloaded radio folder, but dont know what program to use to unload all the info. Have also looked at all the links on "Radio sudden death issue knowledge consolidation" and nothing has helped.
Sorry again guys, but can someone please help
If not, does anyone want to buy my brick?
alachlan said:
Sorry again guys, but can someone please help
If not, does anyone want to buy my brick?
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Dude - there are enough bricks around these parts to build a 500 story repair centre! All we need is MS to merge their NT, CE and ME technologies into CEMENT then we can hold all the bricks together
Error 260 (comms error) is usually caused by using Vista without "fixing" it or Win2K/XP without the .net framework on it
Error 262 is USB port not available - turning hermes off and on (or removing the battery if that fails) at that point and putting it manually into bootloader usually cures that one then continuing with the flash.
Incorrect.
Its more than likely this Vario II was irepairably bricked before the TC bought it, the Radio upgrade is failing on a Tmobile official ROM (which includes a radio) and on a standard CustomRUU upgrade for the radio only.
A "checkimage" command in mtty would probabaly return a failed radio checksum and following on from that the mtty commands to get into the radio bootloader will fail (rtask a......then rversion).
Also there may be a corrupted CID on the device which again isnt good.
Ive seen these types of bricks MANY times.
Sorry dude, looks like your Hermes was a paperweight when you bought it.
Never thought of that - shameful given the amount of radio investigating I've done recently Too busy on 260's with part flashes from people not installing .net (also the amount of hits you should be getting to your vista guide now is scary!)
Still say we should collect up all the bricks and build a repair centre
Mikeapollo said:
.....the amount of hits you should be getting to your vista guide now is scary!....
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73039 hits according to the site
Pretty much the only fatal brick now is a damaged radio/CID flash. If there was a way for Olipro/Pof/Us to flash a hardspl type package in place of the radio bootloader then it would be solid.
What type of mortar should we use?
mrvanx said:
73039 hits according to the site
Pretty much the only fatal brick now is a damaged radio/CID flash. If there was a way for Olipro/Pof/Us to flash a hardspl type package in place of the radio bootloader then it would be solid.
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Yup.. Must admit I think that's the one thing that will not happen anytime soon as the interactions between bootloader, radio bootloader and the radio PLA/PIC is a tad complex... It'll be a very difficult thing to test and even finding a suitable vunerability is difficult - certainly beyond my abilities presently. Though the same was said 12 months ago about the No-Wifi issue and Olipro led some excellent progress in that area...
Mind you - the key to fixing CID/radio bricks is to educate the masses not to make them in the first place and not to just blindly execute whatever they stumble across - more of a challenge than rewriting the bootloader by hand on paper tape and almost as frustrating
Oh... as for Mortar... we could have a mass scrape of all that weird dirt stuff that "grows" under the "invisible-until-you-open-it" edges of the screens and around the battery cover and add a drop of water
Wonder if it's the electronic equivelent of belly button fluff?
does that mean its dead?
Thanks for all the entertaining posts guys. Just to clarify things, Im running XP SP2, and the phone did actually work for about 3 months until suddenly one day it gradually started dropping signal, until the signal vanished completely.
Are you guys trying to tell me that my phone is completely dead then? Could I have prevented this by knowing what the hell I was doing or was it a fault of the phone?
With regards to the mortar issue I think a combination of tears and sh*t would do. I think I would build a big wall around the jackasses who release products that arent completely stable but still charge us an arm and a leg for them. (excuse my grumpiness)
Oh and just wanted to say that since my vario has been out of action, I have been relying on the trustiest brick Ive ever owned, my XDA IIs. This thing has been dropped so many times and is held together with super glue, but it does the job and gets on with things, just not very quickly.
Thanks again for all the help.
alachlan said:
Thanks for all the entertaining posts guys. Just to clarify things, Im running XP SP2, and the phone did actually work for about 3 months until suddenly one day it gradually started dropping signal, until the signal vanished completely.
Are you guys trying to tell me that my phone is completely dead then? Could I have prevented this by knowing what the hell I was doing or was it a fault of the phone?
With regards to the mortar issue I think a combination of tears and sh*t would do. I think I would build a big wall around the jackasses who release products that arent completely stable but still charge us an arm and a leg for them. (excuse my grumpiness)
Oh and just wanted to say that since my vario has been out of action, I have been relying on the trustiest brick Ive ever owned, my XDA IIs. This thing has been dropped so many times and is held together with super glue, but it does the job and gets on with things, just not very quickly.
Thanks again for all the help.
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By the sounds of it you might have a permenant brick but unless i had your device here and actually went through everything myself i cant be sure. take a read through the sticky thread above this one about unbricking......it will take some time to read through but you will see what techniques are used to try and revive the device.
when cid corruped with spl 2.03 and not have gsm no solution can not flash with sd card when you see that level=fff only when level=0 in mtty console can use sd card for flashing rom.
THIS TIME ONLY SOLUTION TO UNBRICK HERMES WITH SPL 2.03 NO CID AND IMEI -
SENT Imei-check to fix this ??
?
uuuummm....
Thanks mbsshop1302gsm for the response, but did I mention that I have limited knowledge on this stuff? So the more basic the instructions are, the better.
Thanks,
April
Ok, after 2 days of fighting, sweating, a pc hdd full with roms,tools,mtty,etc...
...i'm giving up. i am posting a help request for the first time since i am a xda user,
and that's been for almost 2 years now. i rather solve problems by doing research on the xda forums but this time i am out of energy.
i had an raphael before where the hacking process was pretty straightforward
and flashing a cooked rom was really idiotproof.
now i got an cool athena in my hands. i was like yeah, let's flash baby....and
the original OS didn't even last for half of a day. quick enough i realised that
this baby shouldn't be flashed the raphael way - the sd card method...
ok let's get on topic:
what i did:
flashed with the AP4 SPL 3.5 AthenaUpdater (following the howto exactly)
and well. that worked fine. the OS was booting and everything. but to my
surprise it looked like that AP4 update flash thing didn't ship another cooked
rom, but flashed my SPL only. i rather expected a SPL, CID unlock and ROM
install in one single package. i don't know what made me think that, since the
raphael has to be flashed with different stuff too before beeing able to...bla
since i was so happy to find that AP4 update howto i guess i was assuming
that this is the whole deal since it doesn't say anything about seperate CID
unlocking in that .pdf
anyway, i looked for a cooked spl 3.5 compatible rom and there i found it:
[ROM] *Updated Mar/4/2010* AGB V3.00.0 (WM6.5.5 build 23534)
and well, that was basically it. the flash went ok, but after booting only
the rom's splash screen appears and nothing further happens. hard reset
doesn't help.
i tried a few other roms after that, and again. only the rom-specific custom
flash image appears and nothing happens.
tried to flash the AP3 for SPL 3.5 ROM - same thing: flash screen says "operating system is loading", which is an bitmap picture i guess...
downgrade to SPL 1.2 doesn't seem possible since this requires a running
WM, which i don't have.
bootloader works by the way, hard reset works too, but no fix...
after a little reading i get the idea that i should have cid unlocked the device
before flashing with a cooked rom? or did i something else wrong?
any help would be appreciated
oh yeah, and mtty:
the recover from invalid id procedure doesn't fix the issue.
and:
set 14 0
task 8
doesn't fix anything too, just boots the device into the never ending flash screen....
quick questions
what does your boot screen say
and did you remove your sd and simcard before flashing
yeah, the i ofcourse removed the sd card and sim card before everything.
i am at work now but afaik my bootloader screen says:
ATHE100
IPL 2.02
SPL 3.50.Olipro
before the attempt with mtty it said
ATHE400
IPL 2.02
SPL 3.50.Olipro
something like that. is that helpful?
i'm wondering that almost nobody replies. is the athena projcet kinda dead
or am i just asking BS, i don't know. anyway, i'll keep this one posted.
i have a new status of my athena: it boots a ROM for the first time. i have flashed
it with a test rom, called:
Windows Mobile 6.1 Base ROM (Testing)
It can be found on the athena latest ROM links page.
And ofcourse there is a BUT(T)....
BUT..the configuration wizard keeps looping. Means the device boots WM6.1,
asks me to calibrate the screen. after that touchflo (or sense) shows up for a few seconds, a progress bar appears and installs some (invisible) stuff and the device reboots. Normal behaviour you'd say, but the calibration screen comes again, and the progress bar too, and reboots, and again, and again...
maybe somebody could tell me how to stop that process? it seems like the
device doesn't save the first time setup settings. how to fix it?
ultrasonyk said:
i'm wondering that almost nobody replies. is the athena projcet kinda dead
or am i just asking BS, i don't know. anyway, i'll keep this one posted.
i have a new status of my athena: it boots a ROM for the first time. i have flashed
it with a test rom, called:
Windows Mobile 6.1 Base ROM (Testing)
It can be found on the athena latest ROM links page.
And ofcourse there is a BUT(T)....
BUT..the configuration wizard keeps looping. Means the device boots WM6.1,
asks me to calibrate the screen. after that touchflo (or sense) shows up for a few seconds, a progress bar appears and installs some (invisible) stuff and the device reboots. Normal behaviour you'd say, but the calibration screen comes again, and the progress bar too, and reboots, and again, and again...
maybe somebody could tell me how to stop that process? it seems like the
device doesn't save the first time setup settings. how to fix it?
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Hi mate
I live in a different time zone and my daily email about updates to posts comes late in my day and probably when you sleep.
There are not many people who use this device and it is really a legacy machine.
However your post gives a clue to what happened.
with the bootscreen showing athe400 initially are you sure you have an x7500/x7501 or is it the x7510?
Just make sure before you follow the solution in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387596&highlight=endless+loop
the roms are very different
Check out exactly which hardware you have
this thread is from the x7510 thread and may be worth a read if you have the x7510
Additionally cmonex has the knowlege to fix your issuues if the above doesn,t work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441684
thank god, somebody replied with useful information
well, i must be honest i didn't pay too much attention on the model number.
after reading your post, i checked and i see that i have a X7510 advantage device.
which means as far as i can understand it:
i SHOULD have the modelid ATHE400?
which means, i messed it up by flashing it with mtty to modelID ATHE100?
which means, all the time i was installing X7500 stuff on the wrong device
and bricked it that way?
so the AP4 3.5 SPL solution is not for X7510?
which means, the AP4 3.5 SPL is a hard SPL but for another device?
and after all, what do you suggest? do i need to revert my modelID
to ATHE400 and if yes, how? and after that i should follow the 2nd
thread to install a proper hardSPL and a WM6.5 ROM of my choice?
try contacting cmonex
the author of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441684
wrote the script you used to change the device id and may have a way to reverse this
good luck
lakeman, my friend!
you pointed me to the right direction. i followed the steps for installing
hardspl for x7510 from cmonex, and yeah, the modelid changed back
to athe400 and the device was booting! seems like that hardspl also
corrects the modelid automatically.
i am still curious why the device was working after flashing with AP4 3.5 SPL
in first place, since that one is actually for X7500 devices.
i should 've read some more before going to flash that thing, i must admit.
many thanks to you lakeman, and big ups for that cmonex guy!
now it's time to look for a nice wm6.5 rom for my ATHE400
fantastic
happy to help