Ok, after 2 days of fighting, sweating, a pc hdd full with roms,tools,mtty,etc...
...i'm giving up. i am posting a help request for the first time since i am a xda user,
and that's been for almost 2 years now. i rather solve problems by doing research on the xda forums but this time i am out of energy.
i had an raphael before where the hacking process was pretty straightforward
and flashing a cooked rom was really idiotproof.
now i got an cool athena in my hands. i was like yeah, let's flash baby....and
the original OS didn't even last for half of a day. quick enough i realised that
this baby shouldn't be flashed the raphael way - the sd card method...
ok let's get on topic:
what i did:
flashed with the AP4 SPL 3.5 AthenaUpdater (following the howto exactly)
and well. that worked fine. the OS was booting and everything. but to my
surprise it looked like that AP4 update flash thing didn't ship another cooked
rom, but flashed my SPL only. i rather expected a SPL, CID unlock and ROM
install in one single package. i don't know what made me think that, since the
raphael has to be flashed with different stuff too before beeing able to...bla
since i was so happy to find that AP4 update howto i guess i was assuming
that this is the whole deal since it doesn't say anything about seperate CID
unlocking in that .pdf
anyway, i looked for a cooked spl 3.5 compatible rom and there i found it:
[ROM] *Updated Mar/4/2010* AGB V3.00.0 (WM6.5.5 build 23534)
and well, that was basically it. the flash went ok, but after booting only
the rom's splash screen appears and nothing further happens. hard reset
doesn't help.
i tried a few other roms after that, and again. only the rom-specific custom
flash image appears and nothing happens.
tried to flash the AP3 for SPL 3.5 ROM - same thing: flash screen says "operating system is loading", which is an bitmap picture i guess...
downgrade to SPL 1.2 doesn't seem possible since this requires a running
WM, which i don't have.
bootloader works by the way, hard reset works too, but no fix...
after a little reading i get the idea that i should have cid unlocked the device
before flashing with a cooked rom? or did i something else wrong?
any help would be appreciated
oh yeah, and mtty:
the recover from invalid id procedure doesn't fix the issue.
and:
set 14 0
task 8
doesn't fix anything too, just boots the device into the never ending flash screen....
quick questions
what does your boot screen say
and did you remove your sd and simcard before flashing
yeah, the i ofcourse removed the sd card and sim card before everything.
i am at work now but afaik my bootloader screen says:
ATHE100
IPL 2.02
SPL 3.50.Olipro
before the attempt with mtty it said
ATHE400
IPL 2.02
SPL 3.50.Olipro
something like that. is that helpful?
i'm wondering that almost nobody replies. is the athena projcet kinda dead
or am i just asking BS, i don't know. anyway, i'll keep this one posted.
i have a new status of my athena: it boots a ROM for the first time. i have flashed
it with a test rom, called:
Windows Mobile 6.1 Base ROM (Testing)
It can be found on the athena latest ROM links page.
And ofcourse there is a BUT(T)....
BUT..the configuration wizard keeps looping. Means the device boots WM6.1,
asks me to calibrate the screen. after that touchflo (or sense) shows up for a few seconds, a progress bar appears and installs some (invisible) stuff and the device reboots. Normal behaviour you'd say, but the calibration screen comes again, and the progress bar too, and reboots, and again, and again...
maybe somebody could tell me how to stop that process? it seems like the
device doesn't save the first time setup settings. how to fix it?
ultrasonyk said:
i'm wondering that almost nobody replies. is the athena projcet kinda dead
or am i just asking BS, i don't know. anyway, i'll keep this one posted.
i have a new status of my athena: it boots a ROM for the first time. i have flashed
it with a test rom, called:
Windows Mobile 6.1 Base ROM (Testing)
It can be found on the athena latest ROM links page.
And ofcourse there is a BUT(T)....
BUT..the configuration wizard keeps looping. Means the device boots WM6.1,
asks me to calibrate the screen. after that touchflo (or sense) shows up for a few seconds, a progress bar appears and installs some (invisible) stuff and the device reboots. Normal behaviour you'd say, but the calibration screen comes again, and the progress bar too, and reboots, and again, and again...
maybe somebody could tell me how to stop that process? it seems like the
device doesn't save the first time setup settings. how to fix it?
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Hi mate
I live in a different time zone and my daily email about updates to posts comes late in my day and probably when you sleep.
There are not many people who use this device and it is really a legacy machine.
However your post gives a clue to what happened.
with the bootscreen showing athe400 initially are you sure you have an x7500/x7501 or is it the x7510?
Just make sure before you follow the solution in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387596&highlight=endless+loop
the roms are very different
Check out exactly which hardware you have
this thread is from the x7510 thread and may be worth a read if you have the x7510
Additionally cmonex has the knowlege to fix your issuues if the above doesn,t work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441684
thank god, somebody replied with useful information
well, i must be honest i didn't pay too much attention on the model number.
after reading your post, i checked and i see that i have a X7510 advantage device.
which means as far as i can understand it:
i SHOULD have the modelid ATHE400?
which means, i messed it up by flashing it with mtty to modelID ATHE100?
which means, all the time i was installing X7500 stuff on the wrong device
and bricked it that way?
so the AP4 3.5 SPL solution is not for X7510?
which means, the AP4 3.5 SPL is a hard SPL but for another device?
and after all, what do you suggest? do i need to revert my modelID
to ATHE400 and if yes, how? and after that i should follow the 2nd
thread to install a proper hardSPL and a WM6.5 ROM of my choice?
try contacting cmonex
the author of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441684
wrote the script you used to change the device id and may have a way to reverse this
good luck
lakeman, my friend!
you pointed me to the right direction. i followed the steps for installing
hardspl for x7510 from cmonex, and yeah, the modelid changed back
to athe400 and the device was booting! seems like that hardspl also
corrects the modelid automatically.
i am still curious why the device was working after flashing with AP4 3.5 SPL
in first place, since that one is actually for X7500 devices.
i should 've read some more before going to flash that thing, i must admit.
many thanks to you lakeman, and big ups for that cmonex guy!
now it's time to look for a nice wm6.5 rom for my ATHE400
fantastic
happy to help
Related
Hi all, first of all you need to know that I have read the WIKI and have had a look through the forum before asking these questions.
I've just bought a Hermes (I had a Magician before) and would like to get wm6 black edition on it. I've made my phone SuperCID using the tools on this site and that worked nicely. Problem I'm having is that when I start the wm6 upgrade I'm asked what bootloader my phone is running.
Am i correct in saying that the bootloader is the same thing as the IPL ? I'm not sure about that ....
When I turn on my Hermes it comes up with a couple of numbers but only one of them "looks right" : 1.23
Is that my bootloader ? That version doesn't show up in the menu when starting the wm6 upgrade
Regards,
John Gillespie
Be careful, you might need to do some more reading before you start flashing. Put your device in bootloader mode and it will display the IPL / SPL.
Hold the side OK and power button together then soft reset all at the same time to get to the boot loader.
Before you flash make sure you look at installing Hard SPL - should stop the phone getting bricked if anything goes wrong.
mrvanx has written some good guides.
http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/
thanks !! i'm running 1.04, now I can upgrade
When I was reading through the black edition wm6 rom thread it made it look as if HardSPL was integrated in the rom. Is that the case or do I need to manually install HardSPL before doing anything ?
That is the case, it pushes the latest version but it's always a good idea to manually install it anyway - just in case.
ok thanks for the tip
other thing I was wondering about was if anyone had bothered testing which radio rom performs best ?
opinion differs but from what I've seen the general consensus is that you should use anything 1.27 or later
Take a look at my guide, it will take you through it all. The radio I use in the guide is 1.38.00.10 I havent updated for the new Imate radio as people are reporting battery drain effects etc.
So far there isnt any known issues with the radio I use in the the guide.
It will take you through upgrading to the latest version of WMXL,LVSW or Black.
thanks for your time
I'm now running wm6 black edition on my Hermes100 Orange France unit and have set my hardware keyboard to french. I've read that it isn't possible to change the virtual keyboard, is this true or has a workaround been found on this issue ?
I've also been looking for msn live but can't find it anywhere :/
I looked through the wiki as suggested on a thread but couldn't find it
anyone know ?
All rite here we go, in advanced i thank u guys for trying to help me out here.
First, i'm a n00bie compared with the most of u guys.
My Device:
Tytn Herm 300
OS: Schaps Purple 3.30c
SPL: Hard-Spl 2.10 oli
Radio: 1.16.00.00 !Hmzz...that's the problem!
My phone functionallity sucks...some how it keep loosing connection while i see the phone indication bar up to 3 bars. So i decided to do something about it.
Beeing a noob i thought it got to do something with the OS. So i upgrade it to Schaps's wonderfull purple WM6 Hermes 3.30c and loaded the Hard SPL 2.10 oil V7. All went great, and my Hermes never looked so cool before.
But now i'm trying to upgrade my radio, which is still version 1.16.00.00, to what ever better version. I tried every radio upgrade possible from this list:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...actedRadioRoms
Every single one starts well. passed the information retrieving from my phone. Confirmed the update, and then there was the installation progress bar....
All versions of the radio roms i downloaden get stuck in here. It doesn't even start..0% and error... And really i dun have any idea why.
So after re-flashing a gazillion times, i decided to ask help to the allmighty XDA community. So pls, if anybody there got a suggestion or the solution...i would be so thankfull and will slaughter a goat to worship you
If you've got schaps Rom and HardSPL on your phone then you obviously don't have problems flashing or with PC/phone comms.
When you try flashing the radio, how long do you wait before deciding it doesn't work? I've found that some of them can take what seems like a really long time and I'm tempted to unplug and start again.
Maybe try again, then go make yourself a cup of tee/coffee or get a beer then come back 10 minutes later. If the upgrade still hasn't worked we'll have to look a bit deeper
RaDeNRFX said:
- I am so sorry posting this twice in the wrong sections, it seems that i'm a really noobie forum user - But i finally found the rite section. So my humble excuses.
All rite here we go, in advanced i thank u guys for trying to help me out here.
First, i'm a n00bie compared with the most of u guys.
My Device:
Tytn Herm 300
OS: Schaps Purple 3.30c
SPL: Hard-Spl 2.10 oli
Radio: 1.16.00.00 !Hmzz...that's the problem!
My phone functionallity sucks...some how it keep loosing connection while i see the phone indication bar up to 3 bars. So i decided to do something about it.
Beeing a noob i thought it got to do something with the OS. So i upgrade it to Schaps's wonderfull purple WM6 Hermes 3.30c and loaded the Hard SPL 2.10 oil V7. All went great, and my Hermes never looked so cool before.
But now i'm trying to upgrade my radio, which is still version 1.16.00.00, to what ever better version. I tried every radio upgrade possible from this list:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...actedRadioRoms
Every single one starts well. passed the information retrieving from my phone. Confirmed the update, and then there was the installation progress bar....
All versions of the radio roms i downloaden get stuck in here. It doesn't even start..0% and error... And really i dun have any idea why.
So after re-flashing a gazillion times, i decided to ask help to the allmighty XDA community. So pls, if anybody there got a suggestion or the solution...i would be so thankfull and will slaughter a goat to worship you
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ach2 said:
If you've got schaps Rom and HardSPL on your phone then you obviously don't have problems flashing or with PC/phone comms.
When you try flashing the radio, how long do you wait before deciding it doesn't work? I've found that some of them can take what seems like a really long time and I'm tempted to unplug and start again.
Maybe try again, then go make yourself a cup of tee/coffee or get a beer then come back 10 minutes later. If the upgrade still hasn't worked we'll have to look a bit deeper
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I waited till the Program says connection error...and send me to recovery proces. And i've been making hella tons of coffee after trying to flash that many Radio Roms. Any other suggestions? I'm so desperate
Ok, maybe some more info...
Do you see 'NO GSM' during the phone boot process?
Do you have no radio at all or just intermittent reception?
Are you running Vista?
What is the connection error number?
If you've lost the radio but have hard SPL it may just be a case of re-flashing an original manufacturers ROM (which will include the radio) then start your upgrading again afterwards. Don't forget to back-up data before flashing.
If you do flash a manufacturers shipped rom - check that you still have HardSPL afterwards.
ach2 said:
Ok, maybe some more info...
Do you see 'NO GSM' during the phone boot process?
Do you have no radio at all or just intermittent reception?
Are you running Vista?
What is the connection error number?
If you've lost the radio but have hard SPL it may just be a case of re-flashing an original manufacturers ROM (which will include the radio) then start your upgrading again afterwards. Don't forget to back-up data before flashing.
If you do flash a manufacturers shipped rom - check that you still have HardSPL afterwards.
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Well the weird part is "No GSM" appeared occasionally...some times it shows it sometimes it's not showing it.
No...i'm a Vista hater. And dun have the original manufacturers ROM. I've got the "T-Mobile Vario II" from The Netherlands..so if anybody got a link for the original version i'd be thankfull.
The Radio it self is intermittent and very inpredictable...for example:
Radio indicator says i got full recieve:...but i can't call or recieve any.
Connection error: 262 (which is, if i'm not mistake a connection error.) Which is bull cuz i'm re-running every other ROM's upload with the same way and succeded/
Radio indicator says no reception and shows an exclamation mark:...and my GF just called me to hurry up and pick her up :/
But the weird part is...it seems that my radio ROM is locked somehow. I can upgrade or downgrade SPL's and OS ROM's but not the Radio ROM.
I've tried to use MTTY by now and followed the manual bellow: (Problem 5)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems#problem5
But it began with invalid password. Procede as written and it didn't helped.
More suggestions are welcome
My bad...i didn't looked well enough. It is saying No GSM the whole time.
More information:
I've checked the Device information on the Hermes now some information are blank:
Radio: Blank
Protocol version: Blank
IMEI: Blank
All other information field are filled. Been spending hours reading tutorials and manuals...and nothing. HELP!
OK,
This isn't a problem I've had myself, but loads of other people have and there are quite a few threads on how to unbrick from here... you're going to have to do a bit of reading.
This page shows the different combinations of OS/radio/brick type etc and should point you in the right direction for the correct course of action http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unbrick
Then read through this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286755 . It's got really long but read the beginning where POF describes the types of problem and also the solutions. Then it's probably best to jump to somewhere near the end and pick someone who has a similar problem.
It sounds to me as though you need to just flash a radio in nbh format, but please do some more reading before you do this to check my advice - as I said at the beginning, I haven't had this problem so I'm only giving advice from what others have written.
ach2 said:
It sounds to me as though you need to just flash a radio in nbh format, but please do some more reading before you do this to check my advice - as I said at the beginning, I haven't had this problem so I'm only giving advice from what others have written.
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I am really thankfull of ur post. Unfortunately, i've been doing some reading. Including the link u gave me. The problem is that i can't upload/flash Radio in nhb format.
As i described in the first place, i can't load a nhb format radio in RUUWrapper.exe properly. It can start the proces..but it always end up with a connection error code 260/262 during the installation progres bar (0%).
The solutions some ppl tried in ur link is often not my case. And the similar cases i have tried where i end up with the same grumpfy situation.
have you tried to flash the radio using the SD card method? I too have a cable connection problem but I fear mine may be hardware failure.
Yap...and no luck
My first attempt to upgrade to AP4 did not succeed unfortunately (SPL to 3.50 upgrade went OK though), my power light stayed green and the display wouldn't come on.
So I took the Athena into bootloader and re-flashed back to AP3.
All seemed fine, the "Tap the screen to set up your device" screen appeared, I set it up and let the customization program run.
Unfortunately after the automatic reset at the end of the customization program, the device returned to the "Tap the screen to set up your device" and the customization program started again...
I tried interrupting the customization by soft resetting before it started executing itself, soft resetted during customization, let customization finish again (and again), but the device seems to be in an endless loop....
Any suggestions/help?
Thanks a lot in advance!
this happen because the spl and the kernel, AKA nk.exe, do not match. not sure what to do except try the new ap3 the cmonex posted **not sure if you tried that**
try the 3.0 cmonex posted and enjoy.
solved!
Thanks irus & Pawel062 (and cmonex!), that did the trick!
Probably not a bad idea to advise anybody who needs downgrading from AP4 to AP3 to use that rom. Download it from http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
See cmonex' thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386604
***great Information!***
HEY ALL,
I WAS ALSO HAVING SOME ISSUES VERY SIMILAR TO THESE WHILE TRYING TO "DOWNGRADE" TO ANY ROM FROM AP 4.0. THIS IS GREAT INFO AS I BUILD MY OWN ROMS CONSTANTLY, SO I WAS A BIT WORRIED WHEN I COULDNT SWITCH AFTER TRYING AP 4.O, BUT THANKS TO CMONEX, IRUS, & PAWEL062, WE CAN DOWNGRADE A BIT EASIER!
THANKS AGAIN!
M E G
I downloaded the http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
can anyone tell me the steps
note i'm stuck into the bootloader
mgozamy said:
I downloaded the http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
can anyone tell me the steps
note i'm stuck into the bootloader
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just flash it with normal RUU
I have this problem of the "looping" with the customizations. My problem is that I can't get the device to a state where it is "talking" to activesync and from what I see, I need that to push this ap3spl new file.
When you say "just flash it with normal RUU" can you tell me what that means please? (sorry, noob here...) I've spent hours on the forums, wiki etc and I'm a bit lost.
I'm "trying" to get AP4 w/WM6.1 onto the device.
Purchased unlocked (new) and used on AT&T for 6 months.
Went to update the radio to 1.57 and used the unlocker first. (took out SIM/SD first of course).
Got past step one and then got a black screen on reboot...
I got AP3 to load but now I get this fun looping.. Setup device, load customizations, reboot, and start over.
Sounds like this file in this thread is my fix to at least get AP3 working but not sure how to apply. Can I do it from the bootloader?
thanks in advance for putting up with me
Oh yeah:
My current state:
ATHE100
IPL - v2.02
ATHE100 MFG
SPL -v3.50 OliNex
Eureka!
Ok, I'm not a COMPLETE noob.. (close). I'm up and running. AP3 (new spl) loaded, then loaded AP4. Woo Hoo!
No GPS
Well, I guess I'm "Almost" back up and running.
Since step three never got kicked off, it looks like my GPS rom/radio never was rewritten back to the device.
Any help on how to get just the GPS portion back?
Endless loop after flashing AP4
I have a similar problem. My Dopod U1000 was running WM6 and I upgraded to
radio version 1.58.00 no problem. After flashing AP4 I am in a cycle where my initial boot screen has black and white lines at the top and black at the bottom
Then get the Windows Mobile 6.1 screen and after automatic customizing the
PDA resets itself. I have tried to flash the AP3newspl file but it cant communicate successfully with the synced PDA. Any help?
Johnatara said:
I have a similar problem. My Dopod U1000 was running WM6 and I upgraded to
radio version 1.58.00 no problem. After flashing AP4 I am in a cycle where my initial boot screen has black and white lines at the top and black at the bottom
Then get the Windows Mobile 6.1 screen and after automatic customizing the
PDA resets itself. I have tried to flash the AP3newspl file but it cant communicate successfully with the synced PDA. Any help?
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get into bootloader by pressing camera+reset and check your spl
you can flash a rom from here
also read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013
Thanks lakeman. I reinstalled WM6 ROM from the boot loader.
My IPL v1.00 and SPL v1.20. Olipro and Radio 1.58
I have transferred enblerapi.cab to PDA and run it each time but when I flash
AP4 ROM or AP3newspl ROM I get an endless loop and my SPL stays v1.20
I cant seem to get a flash of SPL3.5 which I suspect is the problem.
Am I missing something?
Il download non funziona.
Hello
after upgrading i'm stucked in spalsh screen (the one with rom version and others...). can i skip this step? the device is lost?
do you have others questions?
Cheers
no one?
Hi.. did I broke the device?
Cheers
Hi!
Give us more info about your device.
IPL,SPL,installed ROM,etc
Did you try hard reset?
BR
Szig
Here you have the answer like given many times before:
If format fails it is hopeless.
If format goes well and works take the original Aku3 ROM and flash it. The device will work again.
Stuck in splashscreen
High to all
I have a problem with my Charmer - I was flashing it, when I didn't read any instructions and I failed it. Some month ago I came back to Charmer and I repaired it with the "Rescue Kit" and it worked some time. But now even if I flash it with any ROM, my PC write "Congratulation", Charmer turns on but stuck in the splash screen and It's all... when I go to bootloader, it goes and write the IPL and SPL, but when I do Hard reser, it writes "Formad failed", but It can be flash!!! With any ROMs... Please, help me, I like this phone...
punker1993 said:
High to all
I have a problem with my Charmer - I was flashing it, when I didn't read any instructions and I failed it. Some month ago I came back to Charmer and I repaired it with the "Rescue Kit" and it worked some time. But now even if I flash it with any ROM, my PC write "Congratulation", Charmer turns on but stuck in the splash screen and It's all... when I go to bootloader, it goes and write the IPL and SPL, but when I do Hard reser, it writes "Formad failed", but It can be flash!!! With any ROMs... Please, help me, I like this phone...
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ChrBeck said:
Here you have the answer like given many times before:
If format fails it is hopeless.
If format goes well and works take the original Aku3 ROM and flash it. The device will work again.
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Hi!
As you can see mostly it is hopeless.Rarely rehotting DOC chip can help and I read somewhere that sometimes flashing helped,but that was a desperated try with Prophet ROM or something like that.If I was you I could try to flash it with Goldcard (just from curiousity and nothing to lose),but if ChrBeck can't help then who?
BR
Scootie
OK first:
Yes that mith with the Prophet flashing is true. But for that we need a working Aku1 ROM to get the IPL down.
Then the Prophet thing works. That is what I found out.
The heating up thing is a mith. It helped only 1 time and is not the best you can do.
And Goldcard is the biggest SH*T I ever heared.
For devices without reachable OEMSPL something like a Goldcard doesn't exist. Goldcard just flashs with SuperCID and without Signature checking. It is like using a HardSPL and won't help.
That is all I know.
Get a good working AKU1 and I'll build you the solution (if my idea is realy right).
ChrBeck said:
OK first:
Yes that mith with the Prophet flashing is true. But for that we need a working Aku1 ROM to get the IPL down.
Then the Prophet thing works. That is what I found out.
The heating up thing is a mith. It helped only 1 time and is not the best you can do.
And Goldcard is the biggest SH*T I ever heared.
For devices without reachable OEMSPL something like a Goldcard doesn't exist. Goldcard just flashs with SuperCID and without Signature checking. It is like using a HardSPL and won't help.
That is all I know.
Get a good working AKU1 and I'll build you the solution (if my idea is realy right).
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Hi!
Thanks for the answer.
Just a few things:
I'm in searching for an AKU1 ROM.I had it on my computer years ago,but it lost when my HDD damaged.If I find it,I will upload it for you.
The heating up:in this case probably it doesn't help.When we have a device that can't be flashed properly,we try this and it helps more often than you think.Not only with PDAs,but with phones too.
Goldcard SH¤T:
I know what is Goldcard about.
The reason I mentioned it,it helped me 3-4 times when the device (not only Charmer,other devices too) stuck on bootloader or splash screen after flashing.I didn't have too much time in the workshop,so I tried this and worked.
I don't want to argue with you,I know you are an expert in this,I just tried to help with my experiencies.
BR
Scootie
P.S.:I found it on the xda-developers ftp server: RUU_Charmer_1120223_11202110_11220_T-MobileUK_Ship.rar
ftp://xda:[email protected]_1120223_11202110_11220_T-MobileUK_Ship.rar
OK nice that you found the ROM. Maybe we'll have a new test package for the fix of format failed error soon then.
And yes you are right sometimes Goldcard helps if you have forgotten to flash HardSPL or it is damaged then it may help but you need to have acces to OEMSPL and we don't have it.
So hope I can do something soon.
Hi!
I have a question:
I have a Charmer with IPL,SPL 3.08.Unfortunately it is CID locked,so I can flash it with official v3 ROMs only.Is there any solution to downgrade it?Or with JTAG only?
Thanks in advance!
BR
Scootie
The NoID RUU will be able to downgrade it.
Hi!
I tried that,but:
1.flashing is successful,but nothing has changed,I get the old OS after upgrade
2.I tried the v1 ROM I found.The IPL has been changed to 1.12,but the SPL remained 3.08.The OS has been changed in this case,so it worked flawlessly.
The CID unlocking methods didn't work (obvious,SPL was 3.08).
After that I tried to upgrade it,but it was a torture.I got errors and errors,but after an hour finally I could upgrade it successfully.
So,if you have an idea,I have a device to test it.
BR
Scootie
The IPL is down means it worked. After that you can flash a Prophet ROM.
What ROM of Prophet?
High, I was today flashing my Charmer with all original ROM I mean and the flashing process behaves OK, after flashing, it writes "Congratulation" and all the things like OS, Radio, IPL... are change to the definite ROM. But it's all. It will stuck in the splash screen... I have read in this thread something about Prophet ROM. What is it?
The prohpet ROM is an official Prophet AKU 2 flashable after downgrade.
System is as follows:
Fist flash the Charmer AKU1
Then flash a Prophet AKU2
Then flash Charmer Aku3.
You need to do all these steps with the NOID RUU.
That should fix the HardReset failing.
I'm working to get a tool running that does the whole thing automatically.
THX
Oh ****, Thanx 4 quickly answer...And I'm waiting :-D
Ok, so now I'm having
IPL 1.12
SPL 1.12.0000
GSM 01.12.20
OS 1.12.2.23
And I'm waiting 4 your instructions...
How have you gotten the SPL down?
Normally, with flashing... It can be flashed with every ROM...
OK. Cause normally SPL stays up. I never saw a full downgrade.
Hi guys,
Mods - first time post and im not a regular user so if im breaking the rules i apologise. I have spent hours already trawling the forums, but i am now admitting defeat and I need your help!
My Problem:
I have an x7501 SPL 1.06 0000, WM 5.0, GERMAN OS
I want to upgrade this to WM6.1 ENGLISH
I dont care what the SPL is, as long as it works, is reliable, and wont disable any standard WM functionality
I am not interested in tweaks, hulks, or other (non standard) tricks, i just want to get the device running a stock WM 6.1 rom
That said - if you guys think that going to 6.5 is the best (non beta, no risk) option, then im quite happy to go that route.
$50 reward to the first person who provides the following info IN A FORMAT THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND. im good with computers for a non pro (and can follow instructions , but this is just over my head!
I Need:
1) Link to an unlocker and instructions how to use, that will give me the required SPL (note my SPL is 1.06 - will this require two SPL flash steps??)
2) Link to a stable ROM that retains all windows functionality, and instructions how to use it.
If i find that i used two or more peoples help i will split the reward accordingly!
thanks in advance and keep up the good work!
Alan K
First you need to download the unlocker from this thread and follow instructions... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
This will give you SPL 1.2
Here is a handy thread with step by step instructions on upgrading your roms you should read through before beginning to flash...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013
Unfortunately, the stock-like wm6.5 roms made by michy-prima that ran on spl1.2 are no longer hosted on any sites anymore. I can try to contact him for you and see if I can get a copy directly from him. I will see if I can do that.
Otherwise, you can change your spl to 3.5, which you might as well do anyways, as there are more roms for that spl and even the stock-like michy-prima roms were made in spl3.5 also, so if I can get those, I will get the spl 3.5 versions.
So to then change your spl to 3.5, you must have first used unlocker to make spl 1.2, then the only way that was made to change spl to 3.5 was to flash the Athena Project 4 rom, so go to this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387409 and download the AP ROM V.4, unzip it, and run the flasher while your phone is connected with active-sync to your computer. This will install the spl3.5 and the AP4 Rom.
Now that that is done, you can choose any SPL3.5 ROM to flash... (make sure to only flash SPL3.5 Roms now... if need be, there is a way to go back to SPL1.2 if you need to, but there really is no reason you would need to.)
Probably the most modern rom with the most features would be the AGB Version 3.00 ROM, The Hulk one (I know you said you didn't want that, but it is the most current rom, and you can easily change the theme and wallpaper on it. This is the ROM I have on my Athena... its a nice ROM.) Here is the thread for that ROM... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614158
Just unzip the rom after you download it, and like before, hook phone up to computer and let it sync, then run the installer. You can also use the ealier AGB roms, too, if they look better to you, or any rom you come across as long as it is a spl3.5 rom.
And I will try to contact michy-prima to see if I can get one of his old clean wm6.5 roms or his stock wm6.1 roms, but I wouldn't count on me being able to get one from him. Personally I think the newer AGB ROMs are alot better and more recent and updated and would recommend using them.
Also, here is a convenient thread I just found that has links to many different builds and useful tools and guides... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518 ... so if you want to try out a couple wm6.1 while you have spl1.2 or even after flashing spl3.5, as a lot of roms are made for both spls. Just make sure you only flash roms made for the spl that you have on your phone.
I hope this helps... if you have any more questions, feel free to pm me and I'll be glad to help. Happy flashing!
Hi Zarathustrax,
Thanks for the extensive instructions. I will be checking it this week so hopefully ill be sending you some greenbacks by Friday!
Thanks again!
Al
bigalk said:
Hi Zarathustrax,
Thanks for the extensive instructions. I will be checking it this week so hopefully ill be sending you some greenbacks by Friday!
Thanks again!
Al
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Like I said, if you have any more questions or problems, feel free to ask here or pm me.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Also, if you prefer to have a winmo 6.1 ROM over the 6.5 ROM I suggested, there are links to many 6.1 ROMs in that last thread I linked. Here's the link again... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518
MichyPrima's roms are no longer hosted, but I have heard good things about Taxists and Sogarths ROMs. You can easily try a rom and then flash another if you don't like it. Just remember, make sure to flash roms for the spl that you have. If you have SPL3.5 and want a spl1.2 rom, there are links to the tool to change back to spl1.2. The only way to go from spl 1.2 to spl 3.5 is to flash the Athena Project 4 ROM, then after that you can flash any spl3.5 you want. Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.
Hi Zarathustrax,
just to let you know - i still havent managed to allocate time to this yet.
I havent forgotten about you, and im not pulling a fast one!
thanks again for your time and effort!
Al
Hi Zarathustrax,
In the very first step (unlocker link) Olipro says "follow the steps...."
I cant see the steps he mentions anywhere? This is one of the reasons for my original post
any ideas?
Al
Forget my last question - unlocker has the steps!
Hi Zarathustrax,
tried twice and i keep getting error 202 - "check cables....... cannot connect to phone"
I have:
1) connected and synced via active sync
2) set active sync not to sync any items except for files
any ideas?
thanks
Ive tried everything i can. ALL windows updates installed (along with .net 2.0)
AV disabled
Athenaunlocker added to firewall exceptions - im on a work network so firewall is controlled through group policy - so i cant completely disable. do you think this might be the problem?
bigalk said:
Ive tried everything i can. ALL windows updates installed (along with .net 2.0)
AV disabled
Athenaunlocker added to firewall exceptions - im on a work network so firewall is controlled through group policy - so i cant completely disable. do you think this might be the problem?
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Hmmm... might be. I'll look into this and see if I can figure anything out.
Oh, by the way, sorry I missed your messages until now. I don't check these forums daily, so if you need to contact me quicker, send a private message to me.
bigalk said:
Hi Zarathustrax,
tried twice and i keep getting error 202 - "check cables....... cannot connect to phone"
I have:
1) connected and synced via active sync
2) set active sync not to sync any items except for files
any ideas?
thanks
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I've been reading through the forums trying to find an answer... at what point does it show this error? Is it right away? Does the x7501 change screen at all or do anything? I think I remember having problems like this when I unlocked it years ago... but can't remember exactly what I did. Does the x7501 go to it's tricolored bootloader screen at all? It maybe is having problems installing usb drivers while it's in bootloader mode if it changes into bootloader mode when you get that error. Let me know asap so we can get this solved. Also, have you tried using another cable at all?
Putting phone in usb Mode
Try installing Enablerapi.cab before using the olipro unlocker.
Are you still on this
When you run the unlocker there are 3 steps - these are three separate buttons that appear on the flasher each time.
Can you indicate at which step you get this error? Go to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378216
...IT IS IN GERMAN...but it gives very nice pics of the process...using google translate you can get some idea. BUT if you can indicate which step you were able to complete.....we can help better !
Also, what windows operating system?
bigalk said:
Ive tried everything i can. ALL windows updates installed (along with .net 2.0)
AV disabled
Athenaunlocker added to firewall exceptions - im on a work network so firewall is controlled through group policy - so i cant completely disable. do you think this might be the problem?
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chappatti said:
When you run the unlocker there are 3 steps - these are three separate buttons that appear on the flasher each time.
Can you indicate at which step you get this error? Go to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378216
...IT IS IN GERMAN...but it gives very nice pics of the process...using google translate you can get some idea. BUT if you can indicate which step you were able to complete.....we can help better !
Also, what windows operating system?
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I'm kinda thinking he gave up or something.... I've pm'ed him and have been trying to get more info on his problem for a couple weeks. I think he was having the problem on the first step... and the enablerapi will probably solve his problem.
But doing all this reading and trying to solve this problem has got me to pull out my old athena and start playing with it again... it's been a couple years since I've used it... I'm on the HD2 now, dualbooting WP7 and android.... but I've gotten an interest in getting my athena set-up and working again. The athena was way ahead of it's time.... if we could get devs interested in it again and get a good android build ported over, it would make an awesome tablet/phone. I think I'm gonna try to play around with getting android booting on it, but my knowledge of linux and low-level kernel work is limited to none. The best I can do is try to put together a build with what kernels/tools are already out and working on the athena, which isn't much. I think they had it booting and got touch screen working, but not much past that.
Hi zarathustrax,
no i havent given up . was checking in regularly to see if i had any response from you but never even looked at the pms. sorry.
i have a few hours to crack into this now so ive set up on a new machine (different av and firewall) and im going to have a go.
will report back - thanks for all the additional info my man!
al
ok - so i unlocked successfully but i think i may have fcked up. when i read olipros unlocker thread its says that only step 1 is necessary, ("but if you do step 2 you must also do step 3")
as i was trying to get to spl 3.5 i presumed that i didnt need to do step 2 or 3. this might have been a bad choice.
heres what happened:
ran unlocker step 1, it worked, phone rebooted. i finished there as i wasnt sure if i needed step 2 or 3
loaded bootloader screen to check spl. spl said olipro 1.2. i though cool - rebooted phone and now its a black screen. i can get into the bootloader screen whish says:
ATHE100
IPL-V1.00
ATHE100
SPL-V1.20. Olipro
have been reading up on next steps, or how to get rid of blackscreen but no conclusive answer.
its friday so im off home - battle lost but the war aint over!
Well. I'm not an expert (my Ameo was unlocked as I bought it) but if I understand, the black screen is because the ROM on your device dont match the new SPL you have. Try to flash a new ROM (SPL 1.2, right?) should help.
bigalk said:
ok - so i unlocked successfully but i think i may have fcked up. when i read olipros unlocker thread its says that only step 1 is necessary, ("but if you do step 2 you must also do step 3")
as i was trying to get to spl 3.5 i presumed that i didnt need to do step 2 or 3. this might have been a bad choice.
heres what happened:
ran unlocker step 1, it worked, phone rebooted. i finished there as i wasnt sure if i needed step 2 or 3
loaded bootloader screen to check spl. spl said olipro 1.2. i though cool - rebooted phone and now its a black screen. i can get into the bootloader screen whish says:
ATHE100
IPL-V1.00
ATHE100
SPL-V1.20. Olipro
have been reading up on next steps, or how to get rid of blackscreen but no conclusive answer.
its friday so im off home - battle lost but the war aint over!
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Just replied to your pm before checking this thread, so I see that you can still get to SPL bootloader screen. So, what you should be able to do now is get your phone to bootloader screen and hook it up to pc like that. Then let any drivers that are installing finish, and where it says "serial" at the bottom should change to "USB".
At this point, you can now run a custom rom installer and flash a new rom. Since you want to change to SPL3.5, you should install the Athena Project 4 ROM.
Or if you want to leave it at this SPL for a while and test out a couple WM6.1 ROMS that use this SPL, just flash one of these. Here's a good thread that lists almost every ROM available with links and says what SPL they're for... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397518
I'll do a little more research also about the screen not coming on to make sure it's not some other problem, but it probably is just the current rom isn't compatible with the new SPL.
I'm sending this post to your pm too.
Also, make sure you have the SD card and sim card removed when doing flashing. And check what radio you have on your phone... you must have atleast radio 1.50 or higher to use Athena Project 4 or most WM6.1 or WM6.5 ROMS.