I Know i am being noobish,but to learn more i need to put questions like this to you guys.Hope that i will get sufficient help from you guys.
I need to downgrade to imate full shipped wm5 rom for some reason.I have selected the rom i wish to download.
i-mate English CDL__001 1.31.305.2 09/08/06 1.31.305.104 1.38.30.10 32.71.7020.12H 14955.2.3.0 2.3 1.11 108
I am currently using Olipro Hard spl V7 with TnT rom and 1.54 radio varient.
I wish to do full degrade,rom as well as radio.
Any Body guide me through this tricky process,i consulted mr.vanx guides but that degrades only the os part but i want a full degrade.
mrvanx's guide for downgrad is quite straightforward. If you look at it, you should understand that by dowgrading 2.10.Olipro to 1.10.Olipro, you will have a base which will allow itself to be downgraded to shipped SPL. Forget doing anything with radio or OS at this point, you don't need to.
AFTER you have 1.10.Olipro visualy CONFIRMED on the BL screen, flash your desired ROM. Make sure, your radio BL is 108 ( which it seems).
OK ,
1- I should degrade 2.10 olipro to 1.10 olipro
2-I just flash the shipped wm5 rom i downloaded
Am i right?
max414 said:
OK ,
1- I should degrade 2.10 olipro to 1.10 olipro
2-I just flash the shipped wm5 rom i downloaded
Am i right?
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That will do it.
Will that degrade my radio as well as spl?
max414 said:
Will that degrade my radio as well as spl?
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It will. Just make sure that the radio BL version is the same (108 I believe). From other posts and Wiki, you can read that you can downgrade radio BL from 108 to 107 but NOT BELOW THAT. Or you will brick your phone. So I would recomend staying with BL 108. Anything up from 1.33 based on the wiki list.
rronge said:
It will. Just make sure that the radio BL version is the same (108 I believe). From other posts and Wiki, you can read that you can downgrade radio BL from 108 to 107 but NOT BELOW THAT. Or you will brick your phone. So I would recomend staying with BL 108. Anything up from 1.33 based on the wiki list.
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Will 1.10 olipro do the job?or do i need to degrade to retail spl like spl 1.04 or spl 1.06?As stated here...
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
max414 said:
Will 1.10 olipro do the job?or do i need to degrade to retail spl like spl 1.04 or spl 1.06?As stated here...
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27
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As I said in post #2, you don't need to. Flashing shipped on top of 1.10.Olipro WILL reflash the SPL! Read it again.
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Hi guys,
sorry if this seems a silly question, but I really looked to see if I could find any info on this...but I might be just bad at searching?
Anyway, with the apologies behind us, here goes:
Is there any way to know (either from the version number or by any of you telling me) which AKU version the ROMS posted here have?
I currently have AKU 2.3 (in my 1.18.255.3 ROM, date 05/30/06, radio 1.03.03.10, 1.04 bootloader QTEK_001 CID) and am considering upgrading.
Do any of these roms contain a newer AKU version? If so, which?
As long as I have your attention anyway: I've been reading a lot on upgrading on this (GREAT) forum, but it's slightly confusing: Am I correct in assuming that if I SUPER-CID my Hermes and flash it with a newer ROM with bootloader 1.09, that I can always go back to bootloader 1.04? Or is it that once I load 1.09 then I'm stuck with it?
victorclaessen said:
Is there any way to know (either from the version number or by any of you telling me) which AKU version the ROMS posted here have?
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See here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
The column named "OS Build":
- if it ends in 2.3.0 means it's an AKU 2.3
- if it ends in 2.6.0 means it's an AKU 2.6 (currently only cingular's 1.31 rom)
victorclaessen said:
Am I correct in assuming that if I SUPER-CID my Hermes and flash it with a newer ROM with bootloader 1.09, that I can always go back to bootloader 1.04? Or is it that once I load 1.09 then I'm stuck with it?
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By now, If you flash 1.09 you're stuck with it unless you use some "illegal" files that where removed from this forum some time ago. I am working on a new solution to downgrade, but is not ready yet...
Has anyone compared the 1.31 (aku2.6) and 1.35(aku2.3) roms yet? Any differences in speed or handling?
Hey thanks pof!
Ok in hindsight it seems logical to look at the build date for the AKU but I really overlooked that...DOH!
So I guess the best thing for the moment would be to wait for either a AKU 3.2 ROM or a way to revert bootloader 1.09 to 1.04.
As far as I understand it now: If I flash this Cingular AKU 2.6 ROM now I will get bootloader 1.09 and therefore I won't be able to upgrade to a AKU 3.2 ROM unless it happens to be a AKU 3.2 ROM with the same CID (from Cingular in this case, because that's the only AKU 2.6 ROM)
Check?
Not necessarily, you could CID-unlock your phone first.
so you mean that if I CID unlock my phone first, then flash it to a new ROM with bootloader 1.09, that it would still be possible to flash it back to some ROM with bootloader 1.04?
That is possible, but not directly. After upgrading to a rom with 1.09, you have to downgrade the bootloader to 1.04 via this method. After that you can flash any rom you want, or upgrade your radio-rom only, as i did.
ionide said:
That is possible, but not directly. After upgrading to a rom with 1.09, you have to downgrade the bootloader to 1.04 via this method. After that you can flash any rom you want, or upgrade your radio-rom only, as i did.
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Wait, I thought even the imei-check method did NOT work on Bootloader 1.09. The Cingular ROM 1.34 is Bootloader 1.06 - so it should work there, but I thought NOT on Bootloader 1.09.
Am I confused?
Richard
victorclaessen said:
so you mean that if I CID unlock my phone first, then flash it to a new ROM with bootloader 1.09, that it would still be possible to flash it back to some ROM with bootloader 1.04?
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Yes, if and only if you CID Unlock first you'll be able to flash ANY rom with bootloader 1.04 when you are on 1.09, BUT after the update the bootloader version will still be 1.09.
ionide said:
That is possible, but not directly. After upgrading to a rom with 1.09, you have to downgrade the bootloader to 1.04 via this method. After that you can flash any rom you want, or upgrade your radio-rom only, as i did.
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This is only needed if you want to go back to bootloader 1.04, but not really necessary if you are happy with 1.09.
rsolomon said:
Wait, I thought even the imei-check method did NOT work on Bootloader 1.09.
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It works on 1.06 and 1.09.
pof said:
It works on 1.06 and 1.09.
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Ok, I think I got the radio rom issue confused with the bootloader - since they showed up in the same bulk pack upgrader.
Thanks for the clairification!
Richard
pof said:
This is only needed if you want to go back to bootloader 1.04, but not really necessary if you are happy with 1.09.
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I couldn't upgrade my radio rom with 1.09, after downgrading to 1.04 i could.
I have the 8525, installed obviously is the newer ROM, but 2.3 AKU. Is the other ROM/AKU 2.6 package worth trying? I know there were only few updates w/2.6, why did they go back to 2.3 with the newer ROM?
patmannyc said:
I have the 8525, installed obviously is the newer ROM, but 2.3 AKU. Is the other ROM/AKU 2.6 package worth trying? I know there were only few updates w/2.6, why did they go back to 2.3 with the newer ROM?
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Tried a few different ROMs on mine. Have found that the new 1.35 HTC South African ROM seems to work the best for me.
Thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284043&page=3
Post #26 has a nice comparison table compared to other ROMs, well worth a look.
S.K.
Thaks for the advice. I have upgraed to this ROM.
How do I set up the phone for data connections now that I am using this ROM? Do I have to set up manually? I triede unlocking and replacing the extended ROM w/Cingulars, but it didn't set up the 3g connection for me. I had to do it manually. Did I miss a few files? I'd hate to have to google the settings every time I hard reset...
I have searched and tried to find this answer, but now I am more confused... So please be gentle with the flaming.
I have an unlocked Cingular 8525. I down graded to bootloader 1.04 using Cingular ROM 1.30.502.1 and SUCCESSFULLY made my device superCID according to the detail direction in the wiki. THANKS FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!
My confusion comes with the fact that I want to have newest OEM ROM from Cingular, 1.34.502.1, but I also want to upgrade the radio version... But when I upgrade to the newer 1.34.502.1 ROM, I get bootloader 1.06... BUT I read that I need bootloader 1.04 to change the radioROM... But as far I read, I would have to go back down to the earlier 1.30.502.1 ROM.
QUESTION:
How do I keep bootloader 1.04 with upgrading back to ROM 1.34.502.1, so I can have the newer ROM and be able to upgrade my RadioROM also?
Thanks
Ron
lokmeup said:
I have searched and tried to find this answer, but now I am more confused... So please be gentle with the flaming.
I have an unlocked Cingular 8525. I down graded to bootloader 1.04 using Cingular ROM 1.30.502.1 and SUCCESSFULLY made my device superCID according to the detail direction in the wiki. THANKS FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!
My confusion comes with the fact that I want to have newest OEM ROM from Cingular, 1.34.502.1, but I also want to upgrade the radio version... But when I upgrade to the newer 1.34.502.1 ROM, I get bootloader 1.06... BUT I read that I need bootloader 1.04 to change the radioROM... But as far I read, I would have to go back down to the earlier 1.30.502.1 ROM.
QUESTION:
How do I keep bootloader 1.04 with upgrading back to ROM 1.34.502.1, so I can have the newer ROM and be able to upgrade my RadioROM also?
Thanks
Ron
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Downgrade then install the 1.01MFG bootloader. After that extract the OS from the NBH of the ROM you want and flash it. You can then keep 1.01MFG bootloader or change it back to 1.04. Its all in the wiki.
jokinawa said:
Downgrade then install the 1.01MFG bootloader. After that extract the OS from the NBH of the ROM you want and flash it. You can then keep 1.01MFG bootloader or change it back to 1.04. Its all in the wiki.
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Ahhh... thanks for the push in the right direction!
Ron
Couldn't you just upgrade the Radio and the Extended Rom and still have the old boot loader?
Wouldn't this provide the same end result?
lokmeup said:
I have searched and tried to find this answer, but now I am more confused... So please be gentle with the flaming.
I have an unlocked Cingular 8525. I down graded to bootloader 1.04 using Cingular ROM 1.30.502.1 and SUCCESSFULLY made my device superCID according to the detail direction in the wiki. THANKS FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS!!!
My confusion comes with the fact that I want to have newest OEM ROM from Cingular, 1.34.502.1, but I also want to upgrade the radio version... But when I upgrade to the newer 1.34.502.1 ROM, I get bootloader 1.06... BUT I read that I need bootloader 1.04 to change the radioROM... But as far I read, I would have to go back down to the earlier 1.30.502.1 ROM.
QUESTION:
How do I keep bootloader 1.04 with upgrading back to ROM 1.34.502.1, so I can have the newer ROM and be able to upgrade my RadioROM also?
Thanks
Ron
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I had the EXACT same question...It turns out that you can upgrade the radio with the German version since your device is SuperCID. So I was able to upgrade to radio 1.27 with BL 1.06
..... and then....
I learned about the 1.01MFG wiki ... and I followed the instructions and was able to (first) flash 1.01MFG and (second) flash BL 1.04... so now I have 1.34 ROM, 1.27 Radio and 1.04 BL...
It took alot of reading and questions for me to figure it out....I hope my pain is your gain.
Guys, how do I dump the SPL, IPL, Bootloader, radio ROM and Radio bootloader version?
I will use the unlocker to unlock the TYTN but then I want to roll back to the default version numbers that I have. I dont want it to stay with the HardSPL or with the newer Radio.
Thanks
Have you ever try to use the search function first? ...or just read the Wiki?...here are the how to...but next time read the wiki first!
Regards,
Primoz
Guys, it starting to get boring.
On every question asked, you send to RTFM.
Maybe, just MAYBE, I already READ everything and I STILL (!!!) have a question? Maybe I'm not as stupid as you think? Maybe the guides are NOT (?!?!!) 100% perfect?
To the subject; I did dumo the ROM. However, as I understand (FROM the guide), it DID NOT dump the SPL and the radio (or the bootloader and the Radio bootloader).
Please confirm that it DID extract everything and that if I'll burn it back to the device it will be 100% the same as it now.
Also, if I first use the unlocker, and then burn back the original radio, will it get locked again?
knfevg said:
Guys, how do I dump the SPL, IPL, Bootloader, radio ROM and Radio bootloader version?
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You don't need to dump that, every version is available as a shipped upgrade so you can extract it from there and flash it later if you need it for warranty reasons.
knfevg said:
I will use the unlocker to unlock the TYTN but then I want to roll back to the default version numbers that I have. I dont want it to stay with the HardSPL or with the newer Radio.
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Most probably your rom is available as a shipped NBH, just flashing it will lead your device to the original rom. The only thing you can't do is go from htc_boot 0108 to htc_boot 0106, so make sure you don't upgrade to a very new radio if you want to be able to go back to your original radio if it has a 0106 radio bootloader.
knfevg said:
To the subject; I did dumo the ROM. However, as I understand (FROM the guide), it DID NOT dump the SPL and the radio (or the bootloader and the Radio bootloader).
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Following the guide, you've only dumped the OS part of the rom.
knfevg said:
Please confirm that it DID extract everything and that if I'll burn it back to the device it will be 100% the same as it now.
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Tell us how it is now.
knfevg said:
Also, if I first use the unlocker, and then burn back the original radio, will it get locked again?
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no.
POF, you are THE GOD!!! Thanks, finally someone HELPS!!
Ok, here are the clarifications:
1. How do I check the htc_boot version? I have the 106 SPL so I can’t launch the Radio loader from there....
2. If I dumped only the OS part I guess I should dump the rest too. How do I do that and how do I make the "burnable" afterwards?
3. Here is the current "setup":
The device is Orange branded. It’s exactly as described under "Hermes versions" in Wiki for Orange-Israel:
Israel Versions
HERM200 Orange IL HTC TyTN Israel QWERTY Locked OS 5.1.195 (Build 14955.2.3.0) 1.18.255.3 07/22/06 WWE 1.18.255.112 1.03.03.10 32.34.7010.01H
The SPL is 1.06 and IPL is 1.01. I have no idea how to check the HTC_BOOT version.
There is an Orange boot logo.
Guess that is. Thanks once again
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1. How do I check the htc_boot version? I have the 106 SPL so I can’t launch the Radio loader from there....
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You should use a SPL based on 1.01 or 1.04 to use 'rtask' and access the radio, you can either flash it or use SSPL to load the NB without flashing. Anyway you don't need to do that, radio 1.03.03.10 has htc_boot 0106.
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2. If I dumped only the OS part I guess I should dump the rest too. How do I do that and how do I make the "burnable" afterwards?
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You don't need to dump the rest. See later.
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3. Here is the current "setup":
HERM200 Orange IL HTC TyTN Israel QWERTY Locked OS 5.1.195 (Build 14955.2.3.0) 1.18.255.3 07/22/06 WWE 1.18.255.112 1.03.03.10 32.34.7010.01H
The SPL is 1.06 and IPL is 1.01.
There is an Orange boot logo.
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A full shipped NBH consists on 7 parts: IPL, SPL, MainSplash, SubSplash, Radio, ExtROM and OS.
See the hermes shipped upgrades wiki page. Use nbhextract to separate the NBH into rom parts.
Download any orange ROM to get your MainSplash.nb & SubSplash.nb (boot logo as you say).
Download any rom with IPL-1.01 & SPL-1.06 to get IPL.nb & SPL.nb
Download any rom with radio 1.03.03.10 to get GSM.nb
Unhide your ExtROM to get the files in Extended ROM, then create ExtROM.nb using ExtROM image editor.
Reconstruct the OS.nb using the instructions on wiki (see trinity wiki also)
Finally, create a NBH using nbhgen, and package it with CustomRUU to be able to flash it pushing SSPL.
Make sure you don't upgrade to any radio with htc_boot 0108, otherwise you'll never be able to flash your original radio again.
Hope it's clear
Thanks POF. PERFECT!!!!
Maybe a Wiki should be made for this as I notice alot of people asking on how to go back to the original state of their device?
tnx in advance
sir POF i did want to get the original state of my device for warranty purpose..
I tried everything i can.. i read a lot.. still confusing me.. I did encountered No GSM, the phone dont boot..
I run WM6 Cooked rom before..
heres my device now...
Dopod 838 pro Asia
ORIGINAL
ROM 1.23.707.4
07/21/06 WM5
RADIO 1.06.00.10
PROTOCOL 32.37.7010.01H
OS BUILD 14955.2.3.0
AKU 2.3
SPL 1.04
HTC BOOT 106
IPL ?
NOW RUNNING
WM5
ROM 1.23.707.4
07/21/06
RADIO 1.40.30.00
32.73.7020.16H
OS BUILD 14955.2.3.0
SPL OLIPRO 2.10
IPL 1.04
AKU ?
HTC BOOT ? dnt know if it changed
Ive read ur message.. I just want a simple question...
BASED on the data above is it possible to bring back the device on its
original state specially the radio and SPL ?
TNX in advance..
Im willing to research again if yes..
I have SPL - 2.10 Olipro. I am trying the various Boot Roms starting from 1.41 backwards as someone recommended in some other thread.
But I need to run SSPL before or I get an Error why does that happen why can't the SSPL of the ROM upgrade check and do the needful.
Secondly I want to revert back to SPL-1.04 or 1.09 is it possible. If yes please tell me how. If it is detailed in some other thread please tell me the thread details and oblige.
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
tonetagabaler said:
BASED on the data above is it possible to bring back the device on its original state specially the radio and SPL ?
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Radio no (you cant go back from htc_boot 0108 to 0106), SPL and rest of rom parts yes, it's possible to return to original state.
hsanghavi said:
I want to revert back to SPL-1.04 or 1.09 is it possible. If yes please tell me how. If it is detailed in some other thread please tell me the thread details and oblige.
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Read the HardSPL sticky thread.
I tired but could not locate the Hard SPL thread can you please tell me where to find it.
THANKS.
Hi all
reading some signatures of someone on this forum I've read that there is a version 1.04 of the Ipl.
I have the 1.01, exactly what changes between the two different versions? and how I can improve to 1.04?
cabi.costa said:
Hi all
reading some signatures of someone on this forum I've read that there is a version 1.04 of the Ipl.
I have the 1.01, exactly what changes between the two different versions? and how I can improve to 1.04?
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Put Hard-SPL v.7 on your device and you will get it.
Just done but results are unpleasantly SPL v2.10 Olipro and IPL v1.01
cabi.costa said:
Just done but results are unpleasantly SPL v2.10 Olipro and IPL v1.01
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Why is that unpleasant? (they are better than 1.04 for all normal users)
Agree with Joedoe and Sambartle; just use Hard SPL v7 and it takes care of the bootloader for you. Don't need to do anything else.
Guys this user is talking about IPL...not SPL...
If you follow my HardSPL install guide...you will have IPL 1.04 once it is complete.
what changes from 1.01? why an user some post before says that is better 1.01?however thank you vanx i've just flashed my phone with your guide and it's fantastic..
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Guys this user is talking about IPL...not SPL...
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Doesn't flashing hardspl do both though?
mrvanx said:
Guys this user is talking about IPL...not SPL...
If you follow my HardSPL install guide...you will have IPL 1.04 once it is complete.
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Hello Mrvanx,
Your install guide appears OK for my Softbank X01HT with the following information. Please confirm.
Do I need to upgrade the Radio Rom before upgrading to WM6
IPL 1.01
SPL 1.09
ROM ver. 1.23.708.4
ROM date 07/24/06
Radio ver 1.06.00.10
Comm Protocl ver 32.37.7010.01W
Best Regards
Ken
Yes you need it and before did everything flash the booloader with the HardSplV7..and there's a 1.48.00.00 radio out now..
So someone could tell me the differences between an IPL 1.01 and IPL 1.04?
So no-one could tell me what are the differences between an IPL 1.01 and IPL 1.04?
Hi guys I need to downgrade for warranty reasons (Vibrate stopped working)
I have been looking through mrvanx guide and it mentions
"SPL 1.04 (includes IPL 1.00) SPL 1.06 (includes IPL 1.01)"
The thing is my SPL was 1.04 and IPL 1.01 which seems to be a mix of the above !
my Radio version 1.05.05.00 but this is also not on the wiki.
Here are my phone details before
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.04
Rom version 1.21.110.3
Rom date 06/19/06
Radio version 1.05.05.00
protocol version 32.36.7010.04H
Will I need to get the exact same radio and rom version with rom date
or you think its possible they will over look these details aslong as WM5 and an early radio rom is flashed?
Thanks for any advice, Chris.
I really doubt that they would catch it as long as you have wm5. But, if they do, then just play dumb or try another store.
Thanks, I'll try that is there any risks when downgrading or uninstall HardSPL v7 ?
Once my phone had SPL 1.04 on it (after downgrading via MrVanx's method), I flashed the official rom from my carrier, and it returned me to the factory settings. One note, my phone is super CID.
The only T Mobile WM5 rom I can see is the Hungarian one in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287338
will this one be ok for t mobile uk ?
The one from hungary is the only t-mob WM5 i know of. You can also search for a dumped one and reconstruct it.
one note: do not flash radio with htc_boot less than 0107 or you'll brick it, as for your signature you have htc_boot 0108 now.
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The one from hungary is the only t-mob WM5 i know of. You can also search for a dumped one and reconstruct it.
one note: do not flash radio with htc_boot less than 0107 or you'll brick it, as for your signature you have htc_boot 0108 now.
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Thanks for the advice I will deffentley do alot of reading before I downgrade.
So htc_boot less than 0107, does that mean 0107 are ok nothing lower or stick with htc_boot 0108 ?
I have no idea how to reconstruct a dumped rom so ill have to flash the hungay one.
0107 is ok, but nothing lower. To reconstruct a dumped rom, read the wiki