Hi. all . i know this is not an appropriate place to put my problem but i made at least 10 upgrades to my firmware to wm6 so....
i need a hands free bluetooth device for making calls, i tested samsung web200 ,i.tech, and motorola h680 and they make the same thing , i cannot hear anything but my voice is transfered.. is it a compatibility issue(and if it is whats the compatible BT) or i have a problem to my prophet(s200 qtek)
thanks a lot
Is there anyone who could suggest me a bluetooth headset?
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Is there anyone who could suggest me a bluetooth headset?
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i'm using I-tech with no problem on WM6.1
I don't know the solution, but I know the problem.
I red about it before, and I have red the solution, but because I don't use such configuration, I didn't took notice of it.
In general, you need some additional software and/or regsettings to redirect the sound. Best thing to do is to use the "search" option in the top-bar of this forum.
Succes!
I´m using the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 on my prophet and it is working just great. Excellent soundquality.
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I´m using the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 on my prophet and it is working just great. Excellent soundquality.
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stefaneh.. and all of you thanks for fast reply..
i did use the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 too for test , but when i make a call ,they hear me great .. but i cannot hear anything.. there is no sound at all,my voice transfered but the phone is not sending any sound back... and i believe that is a problem from my phone...
stefaneh you make calls etc? did anyone notice something like that , i changed a lot of roms included the manufactures and i reached to wm6.1 but nothing i am very disappointed and angry.. did anyone had the same problem?
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stefaneh.. and all of you thanks for fast reply..
i did use the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 too for test , but when i make a call ,they hear me great .. but i cannot hear anything.. there is no sound at all,my voice transfered but the phone is not sending any sound back... and i believe that is a problem from my phone...
stefaneh you make calls etc? did anyone notice something like that , i changed a lot of roms included the manufactures and i reached to wm6.1 but nothing i am very disappointed and angry.. did anyone had the same problem?
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Hello buddy, first you have to tell people which particular ROM version and phone and include the radio version that you are using before someone can give you a proper answer. I am using the same SonyEricsson BT and iTech BT and they are all OK. NO BLUETOOTH give you good stereo quality as wired ones. I have many BT headsets and my BT headsets cost are as much as I have paid for my phones.
Now, back to your problem. Flash a ROM, any WM6 ROM. There are quite a few good chefs here, Cloudyfa, Korand, Swiftblade, Gullum ..... just to name a few in random orders.
Before you load any other applications, test out your Wifi, Bluetooth, GPRS and Dialer. If you found you got problem with BT switch to another WM6 ROM. If you tried two to three WM6 ROM and still got the BT problem, you may have a hardware problem. Only the salesman in the local phone store can help you then. If you found BT is not a problem then go back to your WM6.1 ROM. If you have a problem then, nothing you can do except report to the chef and wait for next revision. Meantime, you may try different one even that may not be your favorite choice. Each person has difference preference. This is Prophet forum, you are lucky, there are so many chefs and so many ROM's you can choose from. If you are like me, also have an AtomExec, there is only one cook for it in this whole world for WM6.1 WWE, two cooks for WM6 and none of the existing ROM's are without a serious bug. The phone company was taken over and support is nil. If you are angry, that is to yourself. Who told you to buy a PDA phones. Just like most my friend just get an ordinary (free) cheap phone and use it as a "phone". I hardly heard they have any complaints and obvious they have gain a lot more sleeping hours than I. It is now 3:15 AM my time, and I am still looking for a holy grail (more than one) for my WM6.x phones!
Hi,
Have the same issue with while connecting the phone to my car with BT.
It was perfectly working while on Windows Mobile 2005. The first ROM based on WM 6.0 (Mr Cloudyfa has cooked that rom but I cannot remember the reference) was also working perfectly.
Then I tested Transformer 1.1 and I started having some random issues: Sometimes, phone was not switching the sound on the car (in and out), sometimes it was working quite good.
I recently updated to Hma4 Crystal 5.1, Mr Cloudyfa Shadow 2.0 TE and Korand 3.1 and systematically sound is not switching on the car. On all the tests I made, I had only the chance to have a proper conversation twice
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I upgraded last week to WM2003SE using DCS's posed files and DJRM's orange ext rom. on the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13588&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
and although i am only learning about this stuff, it went like a dream. My upgrade was from 1.66 which was incredibly unstable (even though I removed all but the basic programmes) and required 2/3 soft reset every day.
Anyway it has not required a single soft or hard reset and as I say I've been going over a week now.
At the same time I bought a Sony Ericsson HBH-600 bluetooth geadset (lost my jabra 200) and it bonded first time no problem. However virtually nobody can hear me although I can hear them. I worked out that the phone mike is still working but the headset mike is not. So the only way I can get anyone to hear me is to hold the phone next to my mouth with my headset on to hear people - sort of defeats the object.
I have reset the phone, reset the headset, unbonded, rebonded, set as hands free, not set as hands free and it is always the same. I have taken it back got a new headset and its exactly the same.
Am I missing something?
Is it anything to do with the BT upgrade in WM2003SE or in the DJRM ext rom?
I can not help you with the problem - but maybe I can make you feel better, telling you that you are not alone :?
View these topics in the forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14251
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14246
I sure hope someone is able to solve your problem - and it is not because of pure empati that I in that case will be very happy :wink:
/Steen
WM2003StEreo (Phone/headset)
It works on 2.20CHS without problems
Just to confirm that i'm also having the same problem with 2.02.t1WWE and this headset.
Hope that someone has a solution soon, i very much like the new ROM...bluetooh is much more stable, however is fairly useless if no one can hear me !!
Living in hope......
PS - that last post was from me, fogot to login.
Also are you noticing that this headset has very poor battery life!
Same problem with my HBH-65. Finally fixed it by installing Bluetooth Tools.
I tried Pocket Bluetooth tools and that was no good, so changed to 2.20.07CHS and it worked first time and seems quite stable so we'll see how it goes over Christmas
I am planning to buy the Akono Headset HBH-600 for my Qtek 9090. ( I have ROM version 1.22.00 WWE / date: 10/22/04 / extrom: 1.22.5556 WWe. ) Can anyone tell me if it will work with my Qtek 9090?
Tnx in advance!
Ok...
I haven't found anyone else that would admit to trying these headphones with my phone (Dopod 838 Pro).
The headphones themselves are pretty cool. They fit pretty well, don't look toooo dorky, and the buttons click nicely etc. I haven't had them go flat on me yet. They could have come with a protective case though, and you have to take the microphone off to charge them, and I'm always afraid I will lose it.
When I first got them, they sounded crap. AM radio crap. I updated them to the latest firmware from the BlueAnt website (what a drama).
Tested, and they worked ok with the dongle - not exactly hifi sound, but the quality was ok to listen to.
Next I called BlueAnt HQ here in Australia, and after getting put through to a tech support guy he told me "They should work fine, I tried them with an iMate JasJam - no problems. Do a reset and try re-pairing them" (Duh).
Then I called the Dopod support line in Australia. During business hours. It goes through to an answering machine that doesn't even have an introduction message. Left a message. No reply.
Just as I was about to return them, I found the A2DP software tweak/patch on the wiki. First let me just say:
AAARRRGHHHH! What they hell are Microsoft thinking? Why have a registry setting \HKLM\StereoMusic\MakeMyMusicSoundLikeCrap=1 setting in the first place, and THEN why ship all phones with that enabled as the default? How many people have returned perfectly functioning Bluetooth headsets because of that? STUPID. I reckon Microsoft/HTC owe BlueAnt (and others) a truck load of money.
Secondly, that helps. Music is now stereo. I've been using them every day for a few weeks now. The bad news:
1) The quality is still very poor. There is a metallic hissing/sizzling/sibilance sound, especially noticeable on female vocals, which sounds (to me) exactly like a poor bitrate encoding error. The quality is much worse than when I pair it to the dongle it came with. I suspect it is the phone (or the MS BT stack) at fault not the headset. I would really like to be able to fix this.
2) With Wifi enabled, the music cuts out every few seconds. Unlistenable.
3) With Wifi disabled, I get the occasional glitch. I can live with that (if I must)
4) Using the headset profile during a phonecall, the sound I hear isn't too bad (a little muffled) but people tell me I sound really distant and hard to hear.
5) The AVRCP support is dodgy. Most of the time it works. Often when I first hit Play, it plays for a few seconds and then stops. I have to hit Play/Pause again and it starts. Track seek and volume up/down seem to work well. Answering a phone seemed hit and miss at first, but seems to mostly be working now. Not sure if this is the phone or the headset.
The iMate JasJam listed in the compatitabilty section of the BlueAnt website, but the Dopod 838 Pro is not. I emailed BlueAnt with my findings, and suggested they add the A2DP hack to their FAQ for other users. Hasn't appeared yet.
So, my questions:
1) Has anyone tried these headphones on a Hermes device? Does your experience mirror mine? Or is one of my devices faulty? Is the voice quality on the headset profile ok?
2) Is there a Widcomm (?) stack that works on the Hermes that may fix the problem, or...is it likely to be any better with WM6?
3) Does anyone have an A2DP headset of any brand working on a Hermes with "Crystal clear CD quality sound" like it says on the box the headphones came in. If so, what brand? If it is possible to get a good sound out of the MS BT stack, it might be worth pushing BlueAnt to release a new firmware to fix the issues.
4) Would a Bluetooth 2.0 headset give a better result? (Is it a bandwidth issue?)
Any replies would be helpful.
Thanks guys,
Zilch.
Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
Yes it did skip when I first tried it but after a bit of experimenting, discovered turning off WiFi fixed it.
Yes it was mono till I did the reg hack to make it stereo.
No I don't get any hiss and think the quality is great (I know this is subjective but I tested female vocals as you suggested and they were great -Croncrete Blond, Eurythmics, Dyvinals, and even Chris Issac)
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo)
I would have to suggest there are other issues with your setup that are compromising the playback quality. I honsetly am impressed.
I don't use it as a phone headset as I use the X3 model to connect to two phones (I like Blue Ant stuff), so I can't comment on the mic quality.
When you consider that most people are having a nightmare with their stereo headsets (read the Widicom thread, if you have a lifetime to spare), then I am totally impressed with Blue Ant.
Sorry to have to disagree with you.
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Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
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Thanks for the reply!
Yes it did skip when I first tried it but after a bit of experimenting, discovered turning off WiFi fixed it.
Yes it was mono till I did the reg hack to make it stereo.
No I don't get any hiss and think the quality is great (I know this is subjective but I tested female vocals as you suggested and they were great -Croncrete Blond, Eurythmics, Dyvinals, and even Chris Issac)
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Hmm...ok. Are you saying that the quality from your JasJam is the same as if you used the supplied Bluetooth Dongle that comes with the X5? (That's my goal currently)
If so, maybe there is some sort of configuration difference between the JasJam and the Dopod. (The JasJam is on the compatibility list, and the support guy did say he had used it ok)
I'm not just being an anal hifi buff here. The sound quality is obviously poor, and quite noticeable. You probably don't have it, but if you listen to the track 'Lithum' by 'Evanescense' it makes you cringe when the vocals come in (the piano sounds relatively normal. It's noticable in all tracks, but specifically in tracks like that.
Did you use this utility to tweak the A2DP sound settings? Or edit the registry manually (if so, can you tell me what settings you used?)
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo)
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I don't really accept that as a valid reason. Sure they have problems. The least they could do is make a user tweakable UI to change that setting. It's not acceptable to have a protocol designed for stereo music set to mono and no way for a user to change it.
I would have to suggest there are other issues with your setup that are compromising the playback quality. I honsetly am impressed.
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Ok, good to know. I haven't given up yet!
Sorry to have to disagree with you.
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Not at all! Thanks again for the reply.
Edit: If you get a chance, can you do me a favour and check if yours is the H1 or the H4 model? (First two digits of the serial number, under the battery of the left headphone).
Zilch.
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Yep I have an X5 unit connected to my Imate Jasjam and have not updated the firmware.
You may want to go here http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/default.aspx to realise the complications/dificulties the Ms WM guys are up against. I am sure they had a good reason to set the default to mono (maybe some devices didn't work at all with it set to stereo).
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Ehh... they could pay up and get a proper BT-stack from Widcomm....
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Thanks for the reply!
Hmm...ok. Are you saying that the quality from your JasJam is the same as if you used the supplied Bluetooth Dongle that comes with the X5? (That's my goal currently)
If so, maybe there is some sort of configuration difference between the JasJam and the Dopod. (The JasJam is on the compatibility list, and the support guy did say he had used it ok)
I'm not just being an anal hifi buff here. The sound quality is obviously poor, and quite noticeable. You probably don't have it, but if you listen to the track 'Lithum' by 'Evanescense' it makes you cringe when the vocals come in (the piano sounds relatively normal. It's noticable in all tracks, but specifically in tracks like that.
Did you use this utility to tweak the A2DP sound settings? Or edit the registry manually (if so, can you tell me what settings you used?)
I don't really accept that as a valid reason. Sure they have problems. The least they could do is make a user tweakable UI to change that setting. It's not acceptable to have a protocol designed for stereo music set to mono and no way for a user to change it.
Ok, good to know. I haven't given up yet!
Not at all! Thanks again for the reply.
Edit: If you get a chance, can you do me a favour and check if yours is the H1 or the H4 model? (First two digits of the serial number, under the battery of the left headphone).
Zilch.
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I haven't used the dongle for a long time but when I did it was thru my HiFi playing CDs not MP3 so there may have been a difference in quality but never bothered to compare as I never had a problem with the playback quality from my Imate.
I did a manual reg fix using the wiki recommendations of 48 and 0.
I have model H1.
You may be right that the Imate is configured a little differently but I also run it very clean.
I have so few problems compared to what I read that I feel embarressed that I'm so lucky. As an IT consultant I just luv it as my work phone - I use VPN, Terminal Services, WiFi, Push Email, internet access, etc... and it's a phone! Constantly impressed.
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Can't believe the way people on this forum butcher their devices and end up with something that is full of broken things... oh but I'm sooooo cool because I have WMXL .20.1 with radio rom 6.47.803 - don't care that nothing works anymore. Juss wanna be soooo cool.
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I did a manual reg fix using the wiki recommendations of 48 and 0.
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Did you set a bitrate?
I have model H1.
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I wonder if this is the difference. Mine is an H4 version.
You may be right that the Imate is configured a little differently but I also run it very clean.
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Just for the record, I got the headphones a few days after I got the phone. The only thing I had done was put my SIM card in, copy a few MP3s and change the default theme (since the Dopod one is grey).
There were no mods/hacks/cooked ROMS/tweaks etc. Just the ROM it came with which is also the latest version on the Dopod website. My phone is supplied to me by work, so I need it to be as reliable as possible - I can't afford to mess around with it. (Which is one of the reasons I resent having to edit the registry to get some stereo headphones to play in stereo)
Note: Today I have a few apps installed. An RSS reader, train timetable, TomTom etc. Only hack is the registry change for A2DP, and a util which sets the soft input to Block Recognition mode on startup. None of these seem to have affected the quality of the A2DP stream in any way though.
Unless I can try my headphones with someone's JasJam, or another Dopod I'm not sure I'm going to be able to narrow down the issue. I think it has to be a difference in the X4 hardware/firmware or an issue with the Dopod ROM (compared to the JasJam one)
I have so few problems compared to what I read that I feel embarressed that I'm so lucky. As an IT consultant I just luv it as my work phone - I use VPN, Terminal Services, WiFi, Push Email, internet access, etc... and it's a phone! Constantly impressed.
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I have it as a work phone too - and work in IT. I haven't had any issues with it except Windows Media Player losing the tracks on the storage card, and the device locking up from time to time (this is always when I am not using it - it is turned off and does not turn back on). Overall it's a great phone!
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Can't believe the way people on this forum butcher their devices and end up with something that is full of broken things... oh but I'm sooooo cool because I have WMXL .20.1 with radio rom 6.47.803 - don't care that nothing works anymore. Juss wanna be soooo cool.
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Dude. You are hanging around the xda-developers forum. Each to their own. Tweaking is fun for these guys. It's like mechanics cars. You and I are in a different position as our phones are a work tools and have to be reliable. I'm more than happy to benefit from people experiences hacking theirs though
Zilch.
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I don't use it as a phone headset as I use the X3 model to connect to two phones (I like Blue Ant stuff), so I can't comment on the mic quality.
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I was actually considering getting an X3 as well (they look cool), but I will wait until I have worked out the issues with my X5.
Just thinking about this. How does it work? You are bopping along to your perfect A2DP sound, and you somehow hear the phone ringing, so you take off the stereo headphones, get your X3 out of your pocket, insert it in your ear, and answer the phone!?
Zilch.
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I was actually considering getting an X3 as well (they look cool), but I will wait until I have worked out the issues with my X5.
Just thinking about this. How does it work? You are bopping along to your perfect A2DP sound, and you somehow hear the phone ringing, so you take off the stereo headphones, get your X3 out of your pocket, insert it in your ear, and answer the phone!?
Zilch.
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Don't use X5 at work, but when I'm relaxing at the beach or around the pool. Use X3 connected to my Imate and my private phone at work. AT the time it was the only headset that would connect to more than one device and works great.
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Dude. You are hanging around the xda-developers forum. Each to their own. Tweaking is fun for these guys. It's like mechanics cars. You and I are in a different position as our phones are a work tools and have to be reliable. I'm more than happy to benefit from people experiences hacking theirs though
Zilch.
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... but i shake my head in disbelief when I read some of the things ppl do.
Kupur was applauding an admitted newbie who, after 1 hr of owning his device decided it wasn't right and flashed it with some cooked rom, upgraded the radio, and SIM/CID unlocked it!!
How can this guy have any point of referance? How can he know he has made an improvement if he never bothered to use it properly in it's std state? And he will no doubt curse and abuse Ms and HTC for producing crap hardware and software.
As you say each to their own but it's hard for me to understand some ppls mentality.
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... but i shake my head in disbelief when I read some of the things ppl do.
Kupur was applauding an admitted newbie who, after 1 hr of owning his device decided it wasn't right and flashed it with some cooked rom, upgraded the radio, and SIM/CID unlocked it!!
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If I was tempted to do that, right after getting it is probably when I would do it. Reloading all your stuff sucks. Plus if he needed it SIM unlocked to use it that could be why.
Plus, what a better way to learn than bricking a $900 brand new phone?
Zilch.
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So, my questions:
1) Has anyone tried these headphones on a Hermes device? Does your experience mirror mine? Or is one of my devices faulty? Is the voice quality on the headset profile ok?
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3) Does anyone have an A2DP headset of any brand working on a Hermes with "Crystal clear CD quality sound" like it says on the box the headphones came in. If so, what brand? If it is possible to get a good sound out of the MS BT stack, it might be worth pushing BlueAnt to release a new firmware to fix the issues.
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To answer my own question in case anyone else is having this issue...it's all fixed with the official WM6 ROM. Works perfectly. (Except for the dropouts when WiFi is enabled)
yeah I have them and have had for quite some time now ... first used them with my Eten G00 then the G500+, then I changed phones to a nokia n73 and things didn't seem so good. anymore I lost the remote functions and even though I like the new phone I missed some things like nav and others so i went back tot he g00+. I have now updated to the HTC Tytn II I think sim to your hermes ....
I find nothing wrong the x5 controls a re great and quality is exceptable... I have no issues with Wifi.. I have the updated firmeware on my x5 and the stock firmware on my tytn II..
I also have a hs850 paired to the device the only thing I deslike on the hole issue is that everytime I use the x6 I have to fiddle around getting them to resume the pairing.
where as my hs-850 I just turn on blue tooth and turn on the headset... and off we go...
I have the x5 set as default headset and default stereo headset... the hs850 is just another device listed and pairs up soon as its turned on.
Can someone post me the headset firmware and how to use it?
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Can someone post me the headset firmware and how to use it?
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I got it from blueant.com I think. (Was some time ago). It was updating the phone that fixed the issues though.
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I got it from blueant.com I think. (Was some time ago). It was updating the phone that fixed the issues though.
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I can't seem to find it. can you upload it somewhere? Or give me a link?
Hi guys,
I´m in Hong Kong and just got my Dopod U1000, since my last PDA was the Hermes and Universal (both with WM6), I would like to know if there is any leaked rom available ? If not I will ask to my friends at HTC and MS
Another point is, The only way to make calls is using a headset? Seriously this was unexpected to me... I will receive a bluetooth headset from Plantronics for free (local promo), but just in case, There is any other way to use the phone? (without the speakerphone)?
tks!
Phelipe
i am waitting too..........
Yes this also puzzled me. How is it possible that the speakerphone cannot be de-activated? Sometimes when I forget to bring my bt headset the phone rings, I answer the call and everyone of my collegues listen to my phone conversation, due to speakerphone active!
Thanks and waiting
Saulo866
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I think that the Ameo hasn't got the hardware to be used as a "normal" phone (e.g the small ear-speakers used by a "normal" phone).
That's quite shocking. I never knew the Athena could not be answered as a normal mobile phone.
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That's quite shocking. I never knew the Athena could not be answered as a normal mobile phone.
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if you don't know this, then you haven't done enough research
to be fair i have not seen any video or other reviews where they go over the fact that you can talk on it like a normal phone. back to the question at hand, what i do is turn down the volume all the way and then talk on it like a normal phone people can still here just not as will and not as far away but i still use a bluetooth
FYI - the volume settings are different when your on or off the phone so if you turn down the volume when your on the phone talking, it will still be loud when you get off the phone.
u can make/answer the call without earphone.
the internal speaker will be on in this case. it means people around u also can hear your call.
i had once, it's a quite embarrassing when people are watching u while u r talking to a brick. :-D
^true....its really embarrassing...
It happened to me once in an elevator...
Always keep your BT headset with your Athena...
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hahahahaha LOL...tat sucked
(my english is bad... so "hahahaha LOL" is enough to convey my reply to you)
With WM6, I had matched my bluetooth earphone with prophet,then I can see the BT headphone symbol on dialing menu.However, if I reboot Prophet, the connection will lost,when I making a call, it won't auto connect to my BT earphone(the WM5 rom did),I have to open setting->connect>BT rematch it to use my earphone.
The problem also happens if,
1.First build connection between phone and BT earphone.
2.Take away the phone only(far enough to let them unable to communicate)
3.Take back the phone and make a call. The BT connection won't re-connect untill you re-matching it.
It makes me very inconvience, thanks a lot if someone can help me to fix it.
Thank you!
I have the very same problem in all of PDAViet's roms. After soft reset the bluetooth partnership setting is gone (although the symbol of the paired device is still there..) I have asked for a fix several times but no one seems to care.. Very strange that only a few people seem to make regular use of their bluetooth headset....
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Thank you!
I have the very same problem in all of PDAViet's roms. After soft reset the bluetooth partnership setting is gone (although the symbol of the paired device is still there..) I have asked for a fix several times but no one seems to care.. Very strange that only a few people seem to make regular use of their bluetooth headset....
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Why do you complain so unsympatically? Remember that you flashed your device yourself. Nobody forced you, nobody let you pay for the software. You downloaded all by yourself a file that a smart person somewhere in Vietnam or Thailand or Russia or where ever, has put together becourse his hobby is to fool around with his PDA. That same person was so friendly to let the whole world join in on his party.
But don't complain when that person don't like to spend his time on your problems, for as far we know his doesn't have a BT headset at all and isn't interested in that functionality. It will become a whole different piece of meat when you had purchased the ROM, but you haven't....... did you....?
Cool...
rondol1 - I like your thinking, my sentiments exactly.
is there anyone can help?
Same sproblem with other bluetooth devices
I think it is not just a BT headset problem but a BT stack problem. I'm using a BT GPS and I had to re-pair GPS and Prophet each time I use (althoughit seems like it is already paired)
It is irrelevant maybe but similar problem exist on e-mails. I create an account for my email provider, download e-mails, but after a reset it looks like my e-mail setting are gone (have to re-configure it) But even when it seems settings are gone I can see it on my today plugin that I have such number of e-mails ( I can get to see them)
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Why do you complain so unsympatically? Remember that you flashed your device yourself. Nobody forced you, nobody let you pay for the software. You downloaded all by yourself a file that a smart person somewhere in Vietnam or Thailand or Russia or where ever, has put together becourse his hobby is to fool around with his PDA. That same person was so friendly to let the whole world join in on his party.
But don't complain when that person don't like to spend his time on your problems, for as far we know his doesn't have a BT headset at all and isn't interested in that functionality. It will become a whole different piece of meat when you had purchased the ROM, but you haven't....... did you....?
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I did NOT "complain" about the problem not being fixed so far, but about the missing reaction of some of this community when I posted the question about the status of this problem on new ROMs several times (which this forum should be there for) and there was just no answer at all. Because I do not want to flash my device with every new "release" only to find out that the problem is still there. I am indeed aware of the fact that not everyone is using BT functionality and that a new OS manually adapted to an "older" device is something that cannot be free of issues from the beginning.
Any change on this behaviour with the new PDAViet ROM 4.0.0.0.6 Touch? Anyone tried?
Same problem
Thanks for All and for every thing they did to make prophet for WM6 but this bluetooth problem is really killing me also every time i am using my car bluetooth i have to pair
Same problem in all rom's
Have tried almost all rom's, same problem.
The problem seems not to be releated to the diffrent BT stacks. Have tried different. Also it is not related to the BT devices. Have used Handfree. Stereo headset. GPS unit. Serial ports on remote PC etc. All have the same problem. Works when paired. Then after a soft reset unit are still in the BT list. But they have all have to be re paired to work.
Surely have something to do, with the units loosing most, or some of the settings after reset. Its an anoying problem, which we all will have to look into.
All the new rom's are nice to have, and to play with. But if we wants the rom's to be good for regular and daily use. We sure needs to fix this problem.
I will start to do my own little investigation, trying to fix the problem.
The problem is the same in all rom's. So if its solved in one rom, I'm pretty sure its solved in all roms. (99% sure , I think)
MaRyNoFear said:
Have tried almost all rom's, same problem.
The problem seems not to be releated to the diffrent BT stacks. Have tried different. Also it is not related to the BT devices. Have used Handfree. Stereo headset. GPS unit. Serial ports on remote PC etc. All have the same problem. Works when paired. Then after a soft reset unit are still in the BT list. But they have all have to be re paired to work.
Surely have something to do, with the units loosing most, or some of the settings after reset. Its an anoying problem, which we all will have to look into.
All the new rom's are nice to have, and to play with. But if we wants the rom's to be good for regular and daily use. We sure needs to fix this problem.
I will start to do my own little investigation, trying to fix the problem.
The problem is the same in all rom's. So if its solved in one rom, I'm pretty sure its solved in all roms. (99% sure , I think)
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I know why this is but so far I havn't figured out how to solve it.... the problem is that settings are stored in the ram and not the rom... the way we need to get it to work is have the regestry moved to the extrom and that way it can be writen to directly without having to keep the regestry in the ram..... this can be done but I havn't fully understood how this is don't because I've been trying so hard to figur uot the X button problem... but I'm reading up on how to do that
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I know why this is but so far I havn't figured out how to solve it.... the problem is that settings are stored in the ram and not the rom... the way we need to get it to work is have the regestry moved to the extrom and that way it can be writen to directly without having to keep the regestry in the ram..... this can be done but I havn't fully understood how this is don't because I've been trying so hard to figur uot the X button problem... but I'm reading up on how to do that
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Thats correct. Seeting in RAM are lost, and there by Bluetooth pairing, email settings etc. Now knowing what causes the problem, some one clever, sure will some up with a solution. Will try to se if I can contribute with anything.
MaRyNoFear said:
Thats correct. Seeting in RAM are lost, and there by Bluetooth pairing, email settings etc. Now knowing what causes the problem, some one clever, sure will some up with a solution. Will try to se if I can contribute with anything.
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Strange thing is, I've tried a few WM6 ROM, but never had any problems with lost emailsettings. I use it a lot, and just as everybody, I have to do a soft reset, once in a while...
So, the RAM storage as you describe isn't lost in all cases but also written to ROM.
As for BT I only use my gps-receiver and even that one only now and then It seems t work fine, but to be honest most of the time I've flashed my Prophet between several times....
I've the same problem with BT : always working with BT GPS, always loosing my BT Headset (try with 3 differents Headsets ...).
Be with devellop's team for correct this probem, and not with guy who critic this post without an BT Headset .... This is a forum and the critic is here to help the building of a 'very good' and more stabe as possible WM6 Rom ...
All together for the future ....
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Strange thing is, I've tried a few WM6 ROM, but never had any problems with lost emailsettings. I use it a lot, and just as everybody, I have to do a soft reset, once in a while...
So, the RAM storage as you describe isn't lost in all cases but also written to ROM.
As for BT I only use my gps-receiver and even that one only now and then It seems t work fine, but to be honest most of the time I've flashed my Prophet between several times....
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try change your battery or just pull out your battery overnight, i'm sure you will experience this problem. Sometimes on my phone when battery goes below 50% if I reset will loose setting sometimes. Just annoying but i can live with it.
The only way to keep your bluetooth, wifi and email settings all the time without worries is to use WM5.
If someone wants to try the bug, just soft-reset the phone while connected to the PC via activesync.
I guess that you will lose your settings (i'm not 100% sure because I'm now using WM5).
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That are things I didn't try indeed. But at the other hand, what hould I want to do all that?
Tried the battery-change right away. Everything is still in order, no settings missing, time and date still as it should, email working as it allways did.
I did shut down my device first though.
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Tried the battery-change right away. Everything is still in order, no settings missing, time and date still as it should, email working as it allways did.
I did shut down my device first though.
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You might be one of the lucky ones then. I believe majority of us looses settings at various times. what model specs are your device do you have anyway? is it new when u purchased? the reason i asked cuz somewhere i read there is a "button cell battery" might be a wizard thing not prophet devices.
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You might be one of the lucky ones then. I believe majority of us looses settings at various times. what model specs are your device do you have anyway? is it new when u purchased? the reason i asked cuz somewhere i read there is a "button cell battery" might be a wizard thing not prophet devices.
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I did buy my S200 new, without any branded OS, that means straight from Qtek. It's a G4, other specs Im willing to tell when you can precise what you want to know.
But... I don't want to be arrogant... when I read the many bug-reports I get the feeling that a majority don't use their device as it is supposed to. If you imagine that it is a small device with very limited hardware specs, it's not hard to understand that it isn't as foolprove as your desktop computer...
But again, it's just a feeling I get by reading many post, I also know that some of you have serious issues that cannot be explained from maluse point of view.
I'm a newbie here and considering the purchase of a used x7500 with WM6.0. The current owner has a problem with the bluetooth not functioning. I'm wondering if this might be a common problem with 6.0 and if the new cooked 6.1 (4 – if that’s the latest rom version) might solve such an issue? Also, would you mind directing me to the page that has the most popular /cleanest 6.1 rom? I’m tearing my hair out trying to figure out which is the safest one to use.
Kind regards,
Peter (Bamse1)
no need for 2 threads mate
Okay, but I didn't intend this as the same thread as the other one (see "Cleanest/Most Popular 6.1 rom as of 2DEC08??"). I just carelessly pasted some of the same intro text, but there is a difference. My focus on this thread concerns the BT issue. I will take the liberty to paste a private message reply quote from Brau0303 which helps answer the original question:
... As for the BT issue this could be a junk rom, a bad radio version (software & fixable) a hardware failure or something the current owner simply screwed up because they did not follow instructions and may or may not be fixable.
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Bottom-line: Apparently no clear connection between faulty BT and a bad ROM. In the meantime, the HTC service vendor Anovo Nordic AB in Sweden has agreed to fix it free of charge as long as there is not visible damage (there is not) and it is under the 2-year HTC warranty (which it is). It is not clear what their views are on cooked ROMs, but probably not favorable. Fortunately it has not been flashed and has the stock HTC WM 6.0 - which is good news in this case.
Let me add a reply by Lakeman too:
I personally have never had a bluetooth problem and it is not a common problem... I would hope flashing another rom would fix your bluetooth problem, but some of these phones are getting old (18 mths) so there is the possibility of a hardware issue sometimes it would pay to reflash the radio as they can get corrupted as well just make sure you kmow which spl you have and flash the right one
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I had a lot of bluetooth problems with the stock WM 6 rom. Most of these problems are gone with Michy v5 rom. But my brand new S740 is better still.
Thanks ralf_pp, but this thread is under the Athena X7500 advantage not the Rose S740, unless you're suggesting that Michy v5 also works with the X7500?? Do you mind clarifying?
bamse1 said:
Thanks ralf_pp, but this thread is under the Athena X7500 advantage not the Rose S740, unless you're suggesting that Michy v5 also works with the X7500?? Do you mind clarifying?
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I think he was talking about Michy's 5.0 or 5.1 ROM, which are two ROMs for Athena. And then he was probably bragging that his Rose has better bluetooth quality than Athena.
not sure what is on 7500 or 6.0 rom
but on factory original 7510 with 6.1 bluetooth works perfectl for stereo music and phone calls automatically.
it auto plays back, and cuts off as necessary to handle both.
remote control keys (AD2P) works perfectly.
voice dialing command key
phone feature key (press hold to dial last number)
press to mute, etc, etc....