G4 or G3 (I read sticky post) - G4

Hi everybody.
I know how to verfiy if a wizard is a G3 or a G4.
But i have a wizard from a friend of mine (T-Mob. MDA Vario) and it has the latest T-Mob. Rom (Aku 3.3) with IPL/SPL 3.08.
But the Wizard Service Tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295038&page=1) tells me its an G3 device. I know that my friend bought one of the first MDA Varios and have updadted a few months ago with T-Mobile Updater. So is G3 or G4 a hardware issue or is the only point to verify IPL/SPL >= 2.XX.000X?
I am a bit confused.

Any hint for me?

Check the IPL / SPL just like the sticky says. I'm pretty sure it's hardware dependent if it's G3 or G4. I have two Wizards, once is G3 and one is G4, I knew that when they were purchased, and the SPL confirms it on both.

G3 and G4 have different Hardwares, DOC chip versions on both are different. IP/SPL are the Bootloaders,A G3 DOC chip version has an IPL/SPL 1.xx or 2.xx.xxx but a G4 device has IPL/SPL 2.xx.xxx1,note the difference.
Cheers!

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g4 and wm6

i understood from this forum that it's very dangerous to try running a g3 rom on g4...but do you mean that wm6,made for g3 is different from g4???cause i tried to upgrade to wm6 crossbow and it didn't work,i don't know how it happened,but i am still with wm05...so,what rom do you mean is dangerous for g4-radio or windows???is there wm6 for g4?
thank you guys, in advance!
Please look at other thread before asking... especially this one
G4 devices are known to have two things in common :
- IPL/SPL are untouchable and with version number ending with .0001 (or so)
- they are CID locked (wish would only allow HTC to flash roms)
G3 Rom comes with IPL and SPL in. So if you try to flash it onto a G4 device, you may brick it by altering the original IPL/SPL. This is known to be hard to do, btw... don't do it. Also, in case of failed flashing, the IPL/SPL are the only things that could save you.
So you should try flashing G4 rom only.
Unfortunately, the CID lock makes it hard to flash any rom you'd like. Only a couple of ROMs are flashable on G4+CID devices.
thank you!

G4 downgrade to G3

Hy everyone...tomorrow i will have a qtek s200...but i don't know if it is G4 or G3...i saw that for G3 exists app for unlock...but for G4 does exist? and if not, can i downgrade the G4 to G3 for unlocking? or does exist another solution? thx a lot...
ady_uaic said:
Hy everyone...tomorrow i will have a qtek s200...but i don't know if it is G4 or G3...i saw that for G3 exists app for unlock...but for G4 does exist? and if not, can i downgrade the G4 to G3 for unlocking? or does exist another solution? thx a lot...
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Firstly what kind of unlock are you talking about. SIM-unlock is possible for G4 and G3. Use Lokiwiz, (search for it)
If you're thinking about CID-unlock, for G4 the only solution is to pay for it. (as far as i know) www.imei-check.co.uk can provide the unlock, but you'll have to pay. Quite a lot, actually.
Downgrading from g4 to g3 is not possible, since it's hardware. That is also the reason you have to be REAL careful. Read a lot before trying to do something you're not sure about. (It's a lesson i learned the hard way.)
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ok...I understood what you have said to me...i was talking about operator unlocking...for example, if it is from vodafone spanish, and i want to use it on orange romania, with Lokiwiz I can do it?...cid unlock for what does help?
G3 or G4
i have the qtek s200 in my hand...and the spl is something like this: 1.09.00.01 - it is G4?
G3 or G4
i have the qtek s200 in my hand...and the spl is something like this: 1.09.00.01 - it is G4?
and it is in spanish...I can make it in english?
Beerend said:
Firstly what kind of unlock are you talking about. SIM-unlock is possible for G4 and G3. Use Lokiwiz, (search for it)
If you're thinking about CID-unlock, for G4 the only solution is to pay for it. (as far as i know) www.imei-check.co.uk can provide the unlock, but you'll have to pay. Quite a lot, actually.
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As far as I understand your link, they provide only SIM/Network unlock, not the CID-unlock. Or may be one schould write them and ask about it?
No... Those guys at imei-check.com have the solution to unlock CID of G4, but you'll have to pay for it...
EDIT: Hey... This is my 100th Post at this forum!!
If people would read the Wiki, all the answer are in there.
as said before, you can't downgrade a G4 to a G3, its hardware.
the .co.uk website, will unlock all both the sim and the CID for both G3 and G4, however you have to pay for it, you can simunlock a G4 for free, info is in the wiki, a free CID unlock for the G4 is not available (yet, people are working on it)
ady_uaic said:
i have the qtek s200 in my hand...and the spl is something like this: 1.09.00.01 - it is G4?
and it is in spanish...I can make it in english?
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Just to remind one more time, if your SPL version finishes with 0001 IT IS A HARD HEADED G4 and if it finishes with 0000 IT IS A BEAUTIFUL LOVELY G3.
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i understood that, but i'm curious if i can make it in english...when does apear for him cid-unlock for free?
You have to wait for free cid-unlock (for ever?)
My opinion is that free G4 cid-unlock will never come.
Because G4 is used since several months and if nothing came so far, thus the chances get lower and lower every day (source: a probability theory)!!
I suggest you take the solution mentioned above and pay for it.
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ok...but, tell me exactly what does this CID-unlock do? for what i can use it? i just want to change the rom in english...i can't? without that cid-unlock?
alright just a quick check after cid unlock you can flash whatever you want right? even if I just wanted to flash a rom of totally different device it would do it my phone would be bricked afterwards but it would do it right?
I also could downgrade ipl/spl. Does anybody know if the prophet unlocker would work with a wizard bootloader on a prophet?
38 $ is not to much if your phone is bricked I think...^^
i-meicheck is unlock CID or use JAFWM to path CID
can jafwm also unlock cid?
no man. JAFWM can path check CID, not crack CID
Can anyone help me
My SPV M600 is in bootloader with IPL 2.10.0001 and SPL 2.G3
How to update ? how to repair it
Jesterz said:
If people would read the Wiki, all the answer are in there.
as said before, you can't downgrade a G4 to a G3, its hardware.
the .co.uk website, will unlock all both the sim and the CID for both G3 and G4, however you have to pay for it, you can simunlock a G4 for free, info is in the wiki, a free CID unlock for the G4 is not available (yet, people are working on it)
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still no news? I need to unlock cid of a G4 S200 and it's impossible to me to find any solution...thanks anyone!
If theres a free solution itl be here quicker than the speed of light, as its not on the Wiki you can be assured theres no free ones!

I have unlocked my g4

I have cid unlocked my g4 mda and been able to flash quite a few roms just wondering if any of the roms will have conflicts with my device unlocked via imei-check please help me with this read step by step instruction on core kitchen pro and said not to use with g4 unless using shelltool.
There's no problem to flash roms (on a CID-unlocked G4) made with core kitchen as long as there's no IPL/SPL in it. I think the remark was made for G4 CID-locked phones!

G3 or G4

Please, can explain to me if my i-mate jamin is G3 our G4 the numbers are:
IPL 2.13 -----» (dont have the last numbers why?)
SPL 2.20.0000
I supose is G4 but... i dont know...
Thanks.
cmcfaria said:
Please, can explain to me if my i-mate jamin is G3 our G4 tem numbers are:
IPL 2.13 -----» (dont have the last numbers why?)
SPL 2.20.0000
I supose is G4 but... i dont know...
Thanks.
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it's is G3
SPL 2.20.0000
if it was G4 you would have SPL 2.20.0001
Ok, thank
One more thing, i have downgrade my imate with the "RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_NVID" but in this case i dont choose if imate are G3 or G4, it means there is automatic, only choose when we install the step 1 of the roms. right?
Sorry my bad english.
hi gullum,
can you check this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284292
G3 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 1.XX or 2.XX or 2.XX.00X (only two zeros)
G4 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 2.XX.000X(three zeros)
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With this explanation I would guess that SPL:2.20.0000
would be a G4...
I upgraded my prophet from wm5->wm6 using G4 files, and all seems fine. Can help?
thx!
thx
RP
To upgrade my imate i only downgrade to WM5 then i install the step 2 and it seems work well, i dont choose G3 or G4 because the program dont ask, but i m curiouse if my imate is G3 or G4.
Is G3 or G4??
cmcfaria said:
To upgrade my imate i only downgrade to WM5 then i install the step 2 and it seems work well, i dont choose G3 or G4 because the program dont ask, but i m curiouse if my imate is G3 or G4.
Is G3 or G4??
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If you want to know your PDA is G3 or G4, just reset your phone, the first display will show you your PDA type.

T-Mobile MDA rom on G4 8125?

I searched the site and only saw some people who are using the t-mo MDA rom on the g3 wizards - but I have a cid locked g4 8125. I looked in the t-mo MDA rom and it has a ipl / spl file, but will it brick my phone if I try to flash it? Thanks!
You may use ShellTool which will extract and flash only the OS portion for you.
I read a post in another thread on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325961
That said 'you would brick the phone if you update seperately'.
Ozark_8125 said:
I searched the site and only saw some people who are using the t-mo MDA rom on the g3 wizards - but I have a cid locked g4 8125. I looked in the t-mo MDA rom and it has a ipl / spl file, but will it brick my phone if I try to flash it? Thanks!
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You will need to CID unlock your device before you can flash the T-Mobile firmware to your 8125. The G4 CID unlock is ready for use I think. I would do a bit of reading to hear all of the trial and error and read the update history and make sure I know what I was getting into before starting. Fortunately, I have a G3 and it is CID unlocked. Unfortunately, It's currently broken and is un-usable...

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