G3 or G4 - JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development

Please, can explain to me if my i-mate jamin is G3 our G4 the numbers are:
IPL 2.13 -----» (dont have the last numbers why?)
SPL 2.20.0000
I supose is G4 but... i dont know...
Thanks.

cmcfaria said:
Please, can explain to me if my i-mate jamin is G3 our G4 tem numbers are:
IPL 2.13 -----» (dont have the last numbers why?)
SPL 2.20.0000
I supose is G4 but... i dont know...
Thanks.
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it's is G3
SPL 2.20.0000
if it was G4 you would have SPL 2.20.0001

Ok, thank
One more thing, i have downgrade my imate with the "RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_NVID" but in this case i dont choose if imate are G3 or G4, it means there is automatic, only choose when we install the step 1 of the roms. right?
Sorry my bad english.

hi gullum,
can you check this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284292
G3 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 1.XX or 2.XX or 2.XX.00X (only two zeros)
G4 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 2.XX.000X(three zeros)
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With this explanation I would guess that SPL:2.20.0000
would be a G4...
I upgraded my prophet from wm5->wm6 using G4 files, and all seems fine. Can help?
thx!
thx
RP

To upgrade my imate i only downgrade to WM5 then i install the step 2 and it seems work well, i dont choose G3 or G4 because the program dont ask, but i m curiouse if my imate is G3 or G4.
Is G3 or G4??

cmcfaria said:
To upgrade my imate i only downgrade to WM5 then i install the step 2 and it seems work well, i dont choose G3 or G4 because the program dont ask, but i m curiouse if my imate is G3 or G4.
Is G3 or G4??
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If you want to know your PDA is G3 or G4, just reset your phone, the first display will show you your PDA type.

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IPL/SPL upgrade?

I am currently running the Cingular 2.25.0001 ipl/spl .. is there a better one out there that would be safe to upgrade to on my 8125 G4?
lol.. No one has any suggestions?! lol .. I see a couple people with 2.26 and 3.08 .. just wondering how those would work with my G4
You've got a WHOLE LOT of reading to do if you're thinking about changing your IPL/SPL on a G4 Wizard.
Good Luck!!
that's what I figured.. I wasnt sure if it was safe to do... or easier to do with my CID unlocked..
This thread would be the perfect place to start.
HA! Thanks newbie.. I guess I will be leaving my IPL/SPL alone .. .. Maybe I will wait for cingular to make an update.. lol.
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
Question I have is.. What exactly does the IPL/SPL do? lol ..
apparently doesnt let you make calls. every time i try to dial a number, it says your international call cannot be completed as dialed... its useless, i just did it on my g3.
Madcap180 said:
Question I have is.. What exactly does the IPL/SPL do? lol ..
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IPL and SPL are your bootloaders.
They initialize and load your OS and radio. different versions have different commands available to them and in some cases a higher number means a better version. In others the higher number means there are security "fixes" that will make it harder for you to flash your phone.
For a Wizard I have seen no reason to update higher than the T-Mobile 2.26. But then again you should only do this if you have a G3. Flashing G3 bootloaders into a G4 device will irrevocably brick it.
I believe (don't quote me on this though) that only official carrier roms (newer than the G4 device) contain both G3 and G4 bootloaders and as such are safe to flash to a G4 device. I would confirm this with your carrier before doing so though.
Hi
this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL
& reflash to your favorite ROM
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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120.fr said:
Hi
this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL
& reflash to your favorite ROM
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Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
mestrini said:
Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
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Yes I do.
I am a french guy, my provider is Ten Mobile.
I already have brick my Wizard before. Thanks to the guarantee, it was repaired.
Just replace Updater by ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.
2 days of use nothing to announce.
Zzan said:
IPL and SPL are your bootloaders.
They initialize and load your OS and radio. different versions have different commands available to them and in some cases a higher number means a better version. In others the higher number means there are security "fixes" that will make it harder for you to flash your phone.
For a Wizard I have seen no reason to update higher than the T-Mobile 2.26. But then again you should only do this if you have a G3. Flashing G3 bootloaders into a G4 device will irrevocably brick it.
I believe (don't quote me on this though) that only official carrier roms (newer than the G4 device) contain both G3 and G4 bootloaders and as such are safe to flash to a G4 device. I would confirm this with your carrier before doing so though.
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I have a G4 CID locked phone and IPL/SPL thats older than 2.26 and I see no reason to update them still, considering that I can upgrade everything else (OS, radio, ext rom, splash) without touching IPL/SPL. Of course, I am a little more cautious having bricked (yes, real "replacement required" type brick) my phone once.
120.fr said:
Yes I do.
I am a french guy, my provider is Ten Mobile.
I already have brick my Wizard before. Thanks to the guarantee, it was repaired.
Just replace Updater by ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.
2 days of use nothing to announce.
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It's been a long time since you did this. Is it still working for you?
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628 With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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120.fr said:
Hi this method works perfectly
Now have a G4 CID locked update to IPL/SPL 3.08.0001
Thx
Just flash with Deutsch ROM to update IPL/SPL & reflash to your favorite ROM
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mestrini said:
Are you saying you upgraded you G4 CID locked phone using a ROM that isn't from your provider??
Please clarify this matter so that other users don't brick their phones!
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@mestrini I am guessing you did not try this route.
Borter said:
I have :
O2 XDA mini S G4 CID locked
IPL/SPL 3.08.0001;
Radio 2.69.11;
OS 10.2.0.8 WWE mUn_aRTM
Just flash this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300628
With ftp://[email protected]/Prophet/Tools/ROMUpdateUtility-NoVendorID.zip
then you have German OS with IPL/SPL 3.08.0001. Radio 2.69.11
OS can you reflash later.
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You flashed your O2 (G4 and CID locked device) with T-Mobiles ROM?! Sounds crazy to me... Are You sure that your device is CID locked at all? Even G4 device may be CID unlocked, using imei-check - only way this thing have some sense...
Can SPL 2.21.0001 downgrade to 1.06 and smaller?
Mr.Viet said:
Can SPL 2.21.0001 downgrade to 1.06 and smaller?
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Only if your G4 Wizard is CID unlocked, but i guess it's not...
CyberianIce said:
You flashed your O2 (G4 and CID locked device) with T-Mobiles ROM?! Sounds crazy to me... Are You sure that your device is CID locked at all? Even G4 device may be CID unlocked, using imei-check - only way this thing have some sense...
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why? even with NoID updater it's not possible to update a locked G4?

How can i downgrade or change IPL/SPL of CID LOCKED G4 Prophet

Hello,
I have got G4 Qtek S200 (HTC Prophet) CIDLOCKED
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IPL : 2.20.0001
SPL: 2.20.0001
GSM: 02.47.21
OS: 2.20.7.34
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My question very clear:
*** I want to downgrade IPL/SPL ***
Is this possible ?
Thanks advance..
Hello!
Read the Wiki:
It is not possible to upgrade from a G3 model to a G4 model through software, as the DOC is a piece of Hardware.
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greetz Ben
Not from G3 to G4
Hello,
I guess you wrong understand me.
I dont want to upgrade my device from G3 model to G4.
Or i dont want to downgrade from G4 model to G3.
Already my device G4 and only i want to downgrade my IPL/SPL.
And i am asking how can i downgrade my IPL/SPL from 2.20.0001 to other minor IPL/SPL version.
Is this possible? What i must do?
Thanks...
It is not possible to upgrade from a G3 model to a G4 model through software, as the DOC is a piece of Hardware.
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Its a piece of hardware, whatever the Gen you can't up or downgrade it! use your head and think about it!
loverbadi said:
Hello,
I guess you wrong understand me.
I dont want to upgrade my device from G3 model to G4.
Or i dont want to downgrade from G4 model to G3.
Already my device G4 and only i want to downgrade my IPL/SPL.
And i am asking how can i downgrade my IPL/SPL from 2.20.0001 to other minor IPL/SPL version.
Is this possible? What i must do?
Thanks...
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I do think there's some people that don't understand english...
What loverbadi need to know concerns IPL/SPL versions, that are update by software.
What identifies G3 from G4 it's the last 4 digits (numbers) at the end of IPL/SPL version.
The first digits identifies the IPL/SPL version...
He needs to now how can he upgrade or downgrade this version, not to upgrade from a G3 device to G4...
Try to learn english language to read well what is write at this forum...
loverbadi said:
Hello,
I have got G4 Qtek S200 (HTC Prophet) CIDLOCKED
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IPL : 2.20.0001
SPL: 2.20.0001
GSM: 02.47.21
OS: 2.20.7.34
-----------------------
My question very clear:
*** I want to downgrade IPL/SPL ***
Is this possible ?
Thanks advance..
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yes it is possible,why do you want to downgrade them? 2.20 is the latest official version?
Hi guys
I thought i had a bricked Imate Jammin .. in bootloader mode ..so i used Qtec RUU to flash my phone ... and it started working ofcourse with lots of searching and help from this forum ....
Previously my phone IPL and SPL were 2.13 but after writting ROM phone works fine but IPL is still 2.13 and SPL 2.20 so i am really confused .. Also is it possible now to flash it with Imate Jammin software of the same version .. be it 2.13 or 2.20
If yes please guide me to the right software ,,, I am truly a noob
thanks
Mike
Lastest IPL/SPL is 2.58 ... you can found on a TC-500.
NOW it is possible to downgrade SPL. Just flash HardSPL, after that you can DOWNGRADE SPL to any SPL you want!!!
nForce said:
NOW it is possible to downgrade SPL. Just flash HardSPL, after that you can DOWNGRADE SPL to any SPL you want!!!
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How? Can you explain a little bit more?
help
mun66 said:
Hi guys
I thought i had a bricked Imate Jammin .. in bootloader mode ..so i used Qtec RUU to flash my phone ... and it started working ofcourse with lots of searching and help from this forum ....
Previously my phone IPL and SPL were 2.13 but after writting ROM phone works fine but IPL is still 2.13 and SPL 2.20 so i am really confused .. Also is it possible now to flash it with Imate Jammin software of the same version .. be it 2.13 or 2.20
If yes please guide me to the right software ,,, I am truly a noob
thanks
Mike
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my prophet is still dead
can you help me
my spl 2.20
my ipl 2.20.0001
usb connects but all rom that i tryed dont boot
please help on reviving this little device
thanks
my prophet is still dead
can you help me
my spl 2.20
my ipl 2.20.0001
usb connects but all rom that i tryed dont boot
please help on reviving this little device
thanks
tiago.ad.correia(at)gmail.com
flash with original provider rom if cid is locked !!!
then make hardspl.
br stupsi

g3 or g4 ?

hello
how i know what is my pocket
if g3 or g4?
thxns
read the wiki
lvikel2 said:
hello
how i know what is my pocket
if g3 or g4?
thxns
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when you boot you device you'll see IPL and SPL 2.20.0000 or 2.20.0001
the last number 0 or 1 the others my be differant on you devise. but if it ends with o then you have g3 and ends with 1 you have g4

G4 or G3 (I read sticky post)

Hi everybody.
I know how to verfiy if a wizard is a G3 or a G4.
But i have a wizard from a friend of mine (T-Mob. MDA Vario) and it has the latest T-Mob. Rom (Aku 3.3) with IPL/SPL 3.08.
But the Wizard Service Tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295038&page=1) tells me its an G3 device. I know that my friend bought one of the first MDA Varios and have updadted a few months ago with T-Mobile Updater. So is G3 or G4 a hardware issue or is the only point to verify IPL/SPL >= 2.XX.000X?
I am a bit confused.
Any hint for me?
Check the IPL / SPL just like the sticky says. I'm pretty sure it's hardware dependent if it's G3 or G4. I have two Wizards, once is G3 and one is G4, I knew that when they were purchased, and the SPL confirms it on both.
G3 and G4 have different Hardwares, DOC chip versions on both are different. IP/SPL are the Bootloaders,A G3 DOC chip version has an IPL/SPL 1.xx or 2.xx.xxx but a G4 device has IPL/SPL 2.xx.xxx1,note the difference.
Cheers!

HardSPL how to

Hi everybody.
I'm about to upgrade my O2 XDA G4 from WM5 to WM6. I bought this neo on ebay and I don't know if it has already been HardSPled. Is there any chance to know - or - can the HardSPL procedure run again without creating problems?
Are the Radio, the IPL and SPL upgraded as well using one of the last WM6 rom or they should be upgraded manually? Do you recommend to upgrade also IPL/SPL/Radio?
Many thanks
The way to tell if it has been HardSPLed is to see the SPL number.
if it is 2.G3.4PDA or 2.G4.4PDA it has been hard SPLed if not, you will need to do it.
Generally, radio ROMs and IPL/SPL are best left alone (other than SPL for HardSPL).
Thanks for your quick quick reply. I have the following numbers:
IPL 2.15.001
SPL 2.15.001
GSM 02.30.21
OS 2.13.9.21 ITA
So I think I have a "2.G4.4PDA". BTW, while I can understand what 2.G4 means, I have no clue about 4PDA... Can you help?
Thanks again
D.
The numbers themselves (2.G4.4PDA) are meaningless... I think it is 2 (the SPL version) G4 (the device version) 4PDA (sounds like "for PDA").
You will need to HardSPL first, using G4 HardSPL as your device is a G4, then you can flash a ROM.
Done.
Thanks for your support. Now I have the following:
IPL 2.15.001
SPL 2.G4.4PDA
GSM 02.30.21
OS 2.13.9.21 ITA
Now you can flash a ROM.

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