Guys and gals,
I have a question about wm6.1. I see quite a number of versions on the forum and I tried 2 or 3 (maybe 4), but reverted back to wm6 shadow clean (5.2.19.48 wwe) and working with it for more than 1 month.
My question now is "what is the benefit of 6.1?" or since I read a lot about problems (with bluetooth) "why is 6.1 better or what are the new features?"
Thanks
The only visible benefit of Wm6.1 is threaded SMS like Palm OS Chat. Other feature is not so transparent to the end user and more networking related.
apollow99 said:
The only visible benefit of Wm6.1 is threaded SMS like Palm OS Chat. Other feature is not so transparent to the end user and more networking related.
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I second that, it is more an idea then a real must...
rondol1 said:
I second that, it is more an idea then a real must...
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How about the Task Manager shipped with WM6.1^^?
Thank God M$ finally dished out something edible---the shipped TM is brilliant not only because of its small size but its "precise" reports on both CPU and Memory usages for each application and service.
If it not were the incompatibility between WM6 and the TM, I will defenitely switch back to WM6 at this moment^^
Read What's new in WM6.1
PS: The threaded SMS application is rather annoying.
Regards,
Carty..
Carty said:
Read What's new in WM6.1
PS: The threaded SMS application is rather annoying.
Regards,
Carty..
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yeh... i agree with you.... is really annoying!
The threaded SMS is more like MS' "Me Too" answer to Palm and Iphone that WM now also support threaded SMS native to the OS. It will win the heart of some die hard Palm fan (like myself).
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In the mean time, i have tried all Cooked WM6.1 and so far i though there is no big benefit using it.
- Battery drain is a little bit faster than wm6
- Threaded SMS is very annoying since cannot move to another folder and cannot be backed up.
So from my opinion, it is better to stick with WM 6
Disable SMS Conversation on WM 6.x
snakesnoke said:
Is it possible to move SMS to subfolders like in 6.0? I'm trying to find a way since 30mins...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1974229&postcount=1
I love threaded sms - it's a great improvement over normal texting for me.
Not complaining!
I am not making any complaint to all the great men cooking great roms.
If the 6.1 roms are not good (enough), it is only because the OS 6.1 is not good enough and maybe a next version (built) will solve a lot of problems which are no floating around on this forum.
In my case, 6.1 solved many issues. My biggest was losing calls back in 6.0. I was ready to sell my mobile, but when I upgraded to 6.1, everything worked fine-Faster - no problems at all! Now I'm gonna keep my good old S200!!
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I'm glad to see dcd, colonel and etc... are cranking out these new roms like crazy, but after hearing that you have to call verizon for the akey, which i had to do once already and don't feel like doing it again. I'm just wondering if someone has the cab for the new threaded sms that comes in wm6.1. That's all i really want i would just stick with the ported palm version, but i keep sending multiple text to people and no one has figured out how to solve that yet. So if anyone can help please let me know.
Sending multiple messages was narrowed down to closing the app completely before a message was done sending. If you are using something that closes the program instead of minimizing it like x button or spb pp I suggest you set the palm app to be excluded. It solved the multiple message problem for me.
I switched to 6.1 due to the fact that its more responsive and whenever I opened the keyboard right after clicking reply the palm app got confused and for some reason opened the dialer after a few letters were typed. This does not happen with the 6.1 threaded SMS.
ppcboi318 said:
I'm glad to see dcd, colonel and etc... are cranking out these new roms like crazy, but after hearing that you have to call verizon for the akey, which i had to do once already and don't feel like doing it again. I'm just wondering if someone has the cab for the new threaded sms that comes in wm6.1. That's all i really want i would just stick with the ported palm version, but i keep sending multiple text to people and no one has figured out how to solve that yet. So if anyone can help please let me know.
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You only need to reprogram those settings when u upgrade the radio.
I've flashed many different versions of DCD's roms and the only time my settings were wiped out was when I went from the old radio to the new 3.27 radio.
Correct me if I'm wrong please, but that has been my experience.
Going from 2.0 to 2.1 to 2.2 I've only had to call Verizon for an A-Key once, and it's no big deal, just say you lost it in a hard reset.
I am also interested in a CAB of this, if possible. Not ready to start flashing my phone yet, but a native threaded text messaging application would sure be nice.
DCD, any chance, when you update your ROM with XIP 199 that you put back in the stock voice speed dialer and stock dialer screen (not the HTC?) for Verizon? I know I'm probably asking for too much, but I just cant get used to the plainness of the HTC dialer; and the Cyberon voice speed dial is somewhat unstable when installed from a cab for whatever reason.
five40 said:
You only need to reprogram those settings when u upgrade the radio.
I've flashed many different versions of DCD's roms and the only time my settings were wiped out was when I went from the old radio to the new 3.27 radio.
Correct me if I'm wrong please, but that has been my experience.
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come to think of it when i did a hard reset that's when i had to call verizon, but after i flashed to dcd's 1.6 clean rom i didn't have to call. So it must be when the radio gets an upgrade. Now to choose which rom to get 2.1 or 2.2
This thread is dead on, the only remotely nice part of wm6.1 is the threaded sms from microsoft themselves. Has anyone been able to cook it into a 3.16 rom yet?
Shadowmite said:
This thread is dead on, the only remotely nice part of wm6.1 is the threaded sms from microsoft themselves. Has anyone been able to cook it into a 3.16 rom yet?
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so why not just flash 6.1? it does run a bit faster imo, that alone is worth the upgrade
Hi,
I'm still on wm6. Thinking of upgrading to wm6.1, but there have been far too many msgs complaining of sms sending problems. Is that for a fact? I mean, is it a serious enough problem to stay away from wm6.1? It would be interesting to know if majority of ppl with wm6.1 are sending and receiving smses bug-free.
TIA.
For me, I need my SMS/MMS and couldn't afford to spend time troubleshooting or trying to find what could be the cause of it. But I did try most of the WM6.1 ROMs as well changing the Radio ROMs but still not OK for me.
So I am now back to WM6.0 - Crystal V5 ROM from cloudyfa
working great so far.
my 5cents worth of view .. heheh.
Even I switched back to WM6 after trying 6.1, only because of sms issues.
What kind of sms issues?
Because for me it's all apparently ok, but who knows if I'm loosing tons of messages
Yeah Sam.. seems like ppl have been losing msgs, not been able to send them etc. etc.. many sms related problems.
Thanks for the replies.. so I'll just stay away from 6.1 for the time being!!
Sam Trevi said:
What kind of sms issues?
Because for me it's all apparently ok, but who knows if I'm loosing tons of messages
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Hahaha.... getting philosofic?
Sam Trevi said:
What kind of sms issues?
Because for me it's all apparently ok, but who knows if I'm loosing tons of messages
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Chat style sms ( never liked it ) can be fixed though. i switched back mainly because of sms sending failure. it was too annoying.
edit: <removed reply> too much a wise guy... didn't read well... sorry!
pls have a look here
Anybody know when someone is going to have this released?
Yes (but I can't tell when )
chymmylt said:
Yes (but I can't tell when )
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I'm jealous (just read your sig). Why can't you tell? Its not like you guys are selling it...Anyways, I'm excited!
Because it will ruin the surprise!
are you going to do clean versions for those who have 64mb ROM's ?
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Because it will ruin the surprise!
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so tomarrows the day.....
Whats the difference between WM6 and WM6.1? From my experience with my Dell Axim X51v, I do not see really anything different when I upgraded to v6.1.
just wait WM6.1 Standart 5.2.19202 AKU 1.0.0 in few day(s)
Betatesting in progress
happycollin26 said:
Whats the difference between WM6 and WM6.1? From my experience with my Dell Axim X51v, I do not see really anything different when I upgraded to v6.1.
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So you didn't notice the threaded texts? :8
hmm.... what's that?
Texts are 'threaded' - so you can see all texts from / to a person together like a conversation - it's one feature I'd been after for ages!
Its something I disabled after 24 hours of WM6.1 on my Kaiser.
I can see how its useful if you keep texts and want a record of the conversation but I dont keep texts so I found the threading really annoying.
I don't know if I would like a touchscreen OS on my non-touchscreen phone. I'd really, really miss the numeric keypad shortcuts.
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I don't know if I would like a touchscreen OS on my non-touchscreen phone. I'd really, really miss the numeric keypad shortcuts.
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WM6.1 Professional will be fully usable on StarTrek. It will have SIP disabled with (x)T9 enabled only.
Numeric keypad works. We have to modify keypad driver to bind Win, OK and C buttons to hardware keys.
And there are some troubles with MicroSD card and ColdInit.
btw, WM6.1 Standart already on beta test - there are ActiveSync not connecting (asyncmac.dll with all reg entries made already) and Settings applets errors, but all except these troubles works good.
Erofich said:
WM6.1 Professional will be fully usable on StarTrek. It will have SIP disabled with (x)T9 enabled only.
Numeric keypad works. We have to modify keypad driver to bind Win, OK and C buttons to hardware keys.
And there are some troubles with MicroSD card and ColdInit.
btw, WM6.1 Standart already on beta test - there are ActiveSync not connecting (asyncmac.dll with all reg entries made already) and Settings applets errors, but all except these troubles works good.
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I am excited. Thanks Erofich for all your hard work!
Will it be released before this weekend?
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Will it be released before this weekend?
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When It's Done
Hi All,
Been using WM for ages on a variety of devices. I've rom flashed a lot of PPC edition Wm devices, but the missus has got a Str Trk on order and I'd like to put WM6.1 on there for her.
What's the best ROM? I need GPRS working, got to be stable, and it'd be nice if it looked pretty too - partizan's looks nice with the today screen enhancements, also needs to run at reasonable speed, and have enough space to run TomTom off microSD. Oh, and a radio that doesn't kill battery life.
What's the best? Neo? Partizan?
Any advice from someone who's done it appreciated!
Ric
I have been using the Neo Lite rom for a couple of weeks now. Very stable, nice and quick. Also leaves enough room for essential apps to be loaded!
Highly recommended.
cheers
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I have been using the Neo Lite rom for a couple of weeks now. Very stable, nice and quick. Also leaves enough room for essential apps to be loaded!
Highly recommended.
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what's the RAM like on these phones? do you have to be carefull picking your ROM?
does the Neo Lite ROM include the carousel interface?
Cheers!
WM6.1 is the best! I've been trying all the new WM6 ROM. The WM6.1 has a fantastic new today screen, it's very fast and has a new interface for SMS...I've been using it for 2 days and loving it...It alson has Office mobile. You have to install the cumultive fix and you might need to install Windows live if you use hotmail since is not in the ROM...also you need to install a language pack if you need languages other than english for your xT9
WM6.1 is the best! I've been trying all the new WM6 ROM. The WM6.1 has a fantastic new today screen, it's very fast and has a new interface for SMS...I've been using it for 2 days and loving it...It alson has Office mobile. You have to install the cumultive fix and you might need to install Windows live if you use hotmail since is not in the ROM...also you need to install a language pack if you need languages other than english for your xT9
good info, ta.
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WM6.1 is the best! I've been trying all the new WM6 ROM. The WM6.1 has a fantastic new today screen, it's very fast and has a new interface for SMS...I've been using it for 2 days and loving it...It alson has Office mobile. You have to install the cumultive fix and you might need to install Windows live if you use hotmail since is not in the ROM...also you need to install a language pack if you need languages other than english for your xT9
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defintely would like WM6.1 as the missus is replacing her Treo with this and she likes the threaded SMS.
Are bluetooth and MMS working on the 6.1 (are you running the partizan rom?)? there were some questions raised around MMS settings being available on this...
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defintely would like WM6.1 as the missus is replacing her Treo with this and she likes the threaded SMS.
Are bluetooth and MMS working on the 6.1 (are you running the partizan rom?)? there were some questions raised around MMS settings being available on this...
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I'm running the partizan ROM. My bluetooth works fine; I don’t have problems in sending or receiving files although I haven’t tried to bluetooth with earphones. I have MMS settings for pay as you go orange UK and works without problems. My only problem is that windows live seems to stop working (unable to connect) when the battery is less than 50% but I’m trying to figure out what the problem is. Overall a very good ROM
great, thanks
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I'm running the partizan ROM. My bluetooth works fine; I don’t have problems in sending or receiving files although I haven’t tried to bluetooth with earphones. I have MMS settings for pay as you go orange UK and works without problems. My only problem is that windows live seems to stop working (unable to connect) when the battery is less than 50% but I’m trying to figure out what the problem is. Overall a very good ROM
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not fussed about windows live, all the rest sounds great.
it includes the samsung carousel interface, doesn't it? is this nicer than the Neo interface?
landwomble said:
not fussed about windows live, all the rest sounds great.
it includes the samsung carousel interface, doesn't it? is this nicer than the Neo interface?
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Yeah it's the carousel interface...i like it more than the Neo interface but it's up to you, there are several images around, have a look
im from indonesia,.
I want downgraded to WM6 original but error n I got the text
"FOUND SPL V1.20
DOWNLOAD SPL BEFORE V3.03 IS NOT ALLOWED"
can u help me??
i want back to WM6 original,.
thx b4,.
denaldi said:
im from indonesia,.
I want downgraded to WM6 original but error n I got the text
"FOUND SPL V1.20
DOWNLOAD SPL BEFORE V3.03 IS NOT ALLOWED"
can u help me??
i want back to WM6 original,.
thx b4,.
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you can't
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388213
OMG,.
any body can help me??
we are all waiting for a solution.... more than AP5...
denaldi said:
OMG,.
any body can help me??
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im working on it
denaldi said:
OMG,.
any body can help me??
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What part of "you can't" did you REALLY not understand??? YOU CAN'T! Deal with it.
denaldi said:
OMG,.
any body can help me??
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If you upgrade to AP4 you CANNOT downgrade to anything except the hacked AP3
http://htc-hackers.com/uploads/ap3newspl.zip
darkjedi said:
What part of "you can't" did you REALLY not understand??? YOU CAN'T! Deal with it.
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Don't be an asshole. YES HE CAN, he just needs to wait for the downgrade tool that hasn't been released yet.
Why do we have so many people on the Athena sub-board with an attitude problem? Treat everyone nicely, they'll treat you nicely.
techntrek said:
Don't be an asshole. YES HE CAN, he just needs to wait for the downgrade tool that hasn't been released yet.
Why do we have so many people on the Athena sub-board with an attitude problem? Treat everyone nicely, they'll treat you nicely.
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I think the athena boards are quite tame, compared to the Hermes and Kaiser forums...In those forums you will be called 4 letter words for not searching or posting a new thread instead of posting in the proper thread...
Of course, in those forums new roms come out every day, so there is a lot more activity.
techntrek said:
Don't be an asshole. YES HE CAN, he just needs to wait for the downgrade tool that hasn't been released yet.
Why do we have so many people on the Athena sub-board with an attitude problem? Treat everyone nicely, they'll treat you nicely.
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Has the downgrade tool been confirmed in the works? I am waiting on it or the next version after 4.0 I am not happy with AP 4.0 at all right now to many issues with applications etc
not really confirmed, just few words from the dev team, no ETA ... would be a disaster if this tool is not released...
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Has the downgrade tool been confirmed in the works? I am waiting on it or the next version after 4.0 I am not happy with AP 4.0 at all right now to many issues with applications etc
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Yes, I am also having some issue with AP4, but I have changed several items and it now at least usable.
1) I removed all keyboards/sips except the default and I added resco keyboard. I believe some of the newer sips like the manilla keyboards were causing me memory issues.
2) I shutoff touchflo
3) I shutoff Vueflow
4) I changed several registry keys to performance setting via sktools.
5) I installed the Opera 8.65 cab and removed the opera 9.x
6) Removed Manilla Dialer
Also, changed a few registry items found in the forums wiki's for universal and kasier.
Most changes above were performed using SKtools, Schaps Advanced config app and PHM Registry editor. I still have issue with the photo album, but i do not use it much.
So for me, it now is a usable device again and better than ap3. DO i wish i could downgrade the SPL and try one of the other wm6.1 rom...Yes
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Yes, I am also having some issue with AP4, but I have changed several items and it now at least usable.
1) I removed all keyboards/sips except the default and I added resco keyboard. I believe some of the newer sips like the manilla keyboards were causing me memory issues.
2) I shutoff touchflo
3) I shutoff Vueflow
4) I changed several registry keys to performance setting via sktools.
5) I installed the Opera 8.65 cab and removed the opera 9.x
6) Removed Manilla Dialer
Also, changed a few registry items found in the forums wiki's for universal and kasier.
Most changes above were performed using SKtools, Schaps Advanced config app and PHM Registry editor. I still have issue with the photo album, but i do not use it much.
So for me, it now is a usable device again and better than ap3. DO i wish i could downgrade the SPL and try one of the other wm6.1 rom...Yes
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could you post wha tregistry dd you change?
i. amvery disappointed without the mail address predicton
beginner said:
could you post wha tregistry dd you change?
i. amvery disappointed without the mail address predicton
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Sorry, I did not make a list of the reg changes, but most can be accomplished with sktools and/or readng the universal wiki registry edits
As for mail address prediction? Do you mean suggest words etc
did you go into settings, select personal tab, select the input icon, select the word completion TAB,
check suggest words when entering text
Change Suggest After entering to "1 letter" (i think the default is space which does not suggest words until a space is entered, totally useless)
set the other check boxes to your preference!
Remember word completion will store what you type most often, thus the email addresses, words etc
eagle 1 said:
Sorry, I did not make a list of the reg changes, but most can be accomplished with sktools and/or readng the universal wiki registry edits
As for mail address prediction? Do you mean suggest words etc
did you go into settings, select personal tab, select the input icon, select the word completion TAB,
check suggest words when entering text
Change Suggest After entering to "1 letter" (i think the default is space which does not suggest words until a space is entered, totally useless)
set the other check boxes to your preference!
Remember word completion will store what you type most often, thus the email addresses, words etc
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My problem is in "suggest words". There are options for 1, 2, 3 or 4 words suggested, but is impossible to mark a number. I think again the registry is not very fine. The curious comment is that teksoft keyboard does suggest words, that means AP team deploy this part of the rom only fine with software keyboards but not the phisical one.
This is the worse upgrade I ever made of a device. And no way to solve. I feel stupid after several years testing rom upgrades.
AP 4 is totally unusable for business. Maybe nice youtube video capacity, or maybe music, but no way to have it working.
I am starting to use again a blackberry device I have: totally usable for word prediction, gps really superfast.
come and get it htc wm6 and my wm6.1 for SPL 3.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328
[size=+2]YES THERE IS A WAY TO DOWNGRADE.[/size]
I want to try out a more user friendly package before releasing it.
PM me if you want to help test!!
cmonex said:
[size=+2]YES THERE IS A WAY TO DOWNGRADE.[/size]
I want to try out a more user friendly package before releasing it.
PM me if you want to help test!!
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I just pm you, awaiting ansiosus for your news
irus said:
come and get it htc wm6 and my wm6.1 for SPL 3.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390328
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Irus,
I applaud you for releasing this however it does not cure the issue with software not running/incompatiable (I tested using your vanilla release) I believe the software issue we are experiencing is tied to the SPL version someone feel free that knows more than I do jump in
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Irus,
I applaud you for releasing and realize you did this so we would have more of a selection. For those of use hoping this will cure the software not running/incompatabilites etc this however does not cure the issue (I tested using your vanilla release) I believe the software issue we are experiencing is tied to the SPL version someone feel free that knows more than I do jump in
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Edited to be more specific