This is an email that I just received for those of you who are eager to find out what opera mobile beta is like
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Hi,
Here's your sneak peek. By accessing the link below and agreeing to our embargo, you'll get the chance to play with Opera Mobile 9.5 beta 1. We'll make the beta publicly available on Thursday at 10:00a.m. CET.
Everything you need to know about the beta is included in the Reviewer's guide. Just hit the link below.
One thing to keep in mind, though: We're still polishing the final beta 1 build, so please note that there may be bugs - some potentially significant - in the the version you try today.
To download and install Opera Mobile 9.5 beta 1:
http://www.opera.com/press/reviews/mobile/
If you have any questions, please shoot them our way.
U.S. Pacific timezone:
Thomas Ford
[email protected]
+1 310 739 6555
Central European timezone:
Tor Odland
[email protected]
+47 2416 4242
Best,
Thomas Ford
Edit: Go to post 13 for the official beta
It uses IE favourites!!
What a wonderful change. No longer the need to maintain two separate sets of bookmarks now.
yeah i was playing with it overnight. hope they sort the rotation and keyboard bugs soon,
Im currently using the latest build of iris browser, its a bit slower over gprs but faster and renders better over wifi
I just test it in my HTC Touch using Wifi and it's great. The doble click to zoom, the iPhone like scrolling, accesing real web pages not pda-prepared ones, the auto full screen... all the features are great. And the interface and the settings.
What a great product! I can't wait till arrive home to test it in my X7500.
Well done OPERA - (insert lot of clapping here)
Rubbish
It is rubbish. Like last few versions after 1184 build. They seem to belong to those porogramers who believe that they know better then the user, how he should use the software. And on top of that they did not notice that there are such devices like Athena and Dimond with VGA screen best used in landscape.
Maybe for poore Touch users (nothing personal) it is good, but not for us. I have written about it already while build 14xx was released, but they obviously do not read our comments.
To Opera builders: if I want to turn my screen to portrait, I have better tools to do it. I realy do not need Opera to do it for me.
I am back with 1184 build.
I almost never use my device landscape mode. In that mode, I feel the screen is too wide and too low. As a result, my keyboard covers a big percentage of the screen, many programs shows too few lines (for example, too few items in the Contact application, too few files in file explorer, too few items in registry editors) with too much blank space on the right side of the screen.
So I have noticed the problems that you might have encountered.
I find the beta1 to be more instant and fast in making the data connection.
I make the normal changes to minimum overview zoom (70% this time), and display in large font. For some web pages, have to use smaller fonts. Also make the change to the limit paragraph width option so that the paragraph does but occupy only a small portion of the screen at the left hand side.
Tadeusz said:
They seem to belong to those porogramers who believe that they know better then the user, how he should use the software.
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What do you mean by that? Nice vague nonsense there...
To Opera builders: if I want to turn my screen to portrait, I have better tools to do it. I realy do not need Opera to do it for me.
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What are you talking about, and why are you acting like a baby over a beta (unfinished software)? Report it to Opera instead of posting it here where no one from Opera will read it. And even if they did read it, they would have no idea what you are talking about because you never actually explain what you are talking about.
the best opera i tried too...if the screen dont rotate on portrait when exit, this wil be the best...thank you
White the speed of the browser seems faster and connection more reliable, there are some still issues.
I've decided to use the default MinimumOverview Zoom setting of 30% because only with this could I see web pages without having to scroll at the overview level. The only problem is that at that level, all the links are non-active (meaning I can't click the link to go to the related web pages).
Another problem that I find is that at the overview level, the paragrah texts occupy only the small space on the left, leveing most side of the screen blank. This problem could be solved if I blank out the "limit paragraph width" option in that at the overview level the paragraph width stretch and occupies the entire screen width. However, that result in having to scroll left and right at the zoomed-in level since the browser does not "reflow" the paragraph to fit within the screen width.
The beta seems to cause my keyborad to revert back to the standard keyboard quite often too.
Does anyone else experience the same issues as what I have just described?
Anyway, I'm already testing a newer beta (build 1718) posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
I have not received an email from opera mentioning this build, but have tried out the newer build anyway.
In a few hous time, the real public beta will be released. I'll re-test these and provide feedback to Opera based on that version. No point doing it on these two peak version as every few hours they have a new release.
eaglesteve said:
Anyway, I'm already testing a newer beta (build 1718) posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
I have not received an email from opera mentioning this build, but have tried out the newer build anyway.
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This is the official release. The other one was some kind of press preview.
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This is the official release. The other one was some kind of press preview.
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1718 is already the official release? Are you sure? You seems to have insider information then? Or.. are you from Opera organization itself?
Anyway, I noticed that 1718 does fix an issue I noticed in the first peak beta. In the peak beta, if I type in "Opera:" into the address, I expect to see everything that starts with that including "Opera:config" to be displayed immediately. It does not happen, but 1718 fixes that.
edit: you're right. This appears to be the official beta release. The link to opera's download site is here:
http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/951b1/opera_wm5_ppc_951b1.cab
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1718 is already the official release? Are you sure? You seems to have insider information then?
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Yeah, insider information, that's me
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Yeah, insider information, that's me
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I see. Missed that one as I thought they would send me an email again for this one but they did'nt.
Thanks.
Edit: Wait, the link that you provided is for build 1706, which is not the official beta build I thought.
For those wanting build 1718 direct from Opera, get it from here:
http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/951b1/opera_wm5_ppc_951b1.cab
This is exactly what I was looking for. Nice one opera !
I liked Opera but 2 things really irked me and made me stop using it.
1) It didn't use IE favorites
2) It would automatically open the soft keyboard whenever I went over a text box.
I hear they've fixed the first one, does anyone know if they fixed the second one?
Thanks.
EyeAmRubber said:
What do you mean by that? Nice vague nonsense there...
What are you talking about, and why are you acting like a baby over a beta (unfinished software)? Report it to Opera instead of posting it here where no one from Opera will read it. And even if they did read it, they would have no idea what you are talking about because you never actually explain what you are talking about.
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Just read, if you can. And read some other posts of others as well as my posts concerning earlier versions of Opera. In particular read the post next after yours, if my is not clear to you.
If this does not help: If I want to turn my screen to portrait I would use some other tools. I do not want Opera to turn my screen to portrait each time I close Opera. Is it clear enough?
They introduced this feature in last few versions. The build up to 1184 was not doing this and I am sure all the others would like to keep it that way.
By the way. We have a habit here. If any app is shown here, we try to test it and give a comment, what we like and what we do not like. We are testing Opera for months already, if you did not noticed, and we comment each new build. We hoped that this could help Opera builders. Since 14xx build was released, this strange behavior was commented by various people here and now you are coming and saying that it is a baby comment. Nice comment of you, an insider.
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Just read, if you can. And read some other posts of others as well as my posts concerning earlier versions of Opera. In particular read the post next after yours, if my is not clear to you.
If this does not help: If I want to turn my screen to portrait I would use some other tools. I do not want Opera to turn my screen to portrait each time I close Opera. Is it clear enough?
They introduced this feature in last few versions. The build up to 1184 was not doing this and I am sure all the others would like to keep it that way.
By the way. We have a habit here. If any app is shown here, we try to test it and give a comment, what we like and what we do not like. We are testing Opera for months already, if you did not noticed, and we comment each new build. We hoped that this could help Opera builders. Since 14xx build was released, this strange behavior was commented by various people here and now you are coming and saying that it is a baby comment. Nice comment of you, an insider.
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He is right after build 1184 the rotation occurs not only when you exit opera just doing anything else like txt msg it happens,and it's annoying! Tho i like this build i didnt downgrade like evreyone else thn the opera forums its been brought up as well as the sip kybd issue and the big notification shutoff bugs.Hopefully the next build/beta works better keep your fingers crossed.
Looks interesting, but the rotation to portrait drove me absolutely batty in under 2 minutes. You don't have have to close it, just minimize. What a freakin pain. No go, back to 8.65.
Tadeusz said:
If this does not help: If I want to turn my screen to portrait I would use some other tools. I do not want Opera to turn my screen to portrait each time I close Opera. Is it clear enough?
They introduced this feature in last few versions.
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Is this supposed to be some kind of joke? What makes you think it's a feature? Ever heard about "bugs in beta versions"? You know, when the software doesn't do what it's intended to do?
Did you even consider that maybe, just maybe, it's just a bug?
We are testing Opera for months already, if you did not noticed, and we comment each new build. We hoped that this could help Opera builders.
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What makes you think that anyone from Opera even reads this forum? They have their own forums for this kind of stuff.
Also, pointless whining like yours isn't going to help anyone.
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Is this supposed to be some kind of joke? What makes you think it's a feature? Ever heard about "bugs in beta versions"? You know, when the software doesn't do what it's intended to do?
Did you even consider that maybe, just maybe, it's just a bug?
What makes you think that anyone from Opera even reads this forum? They have their own forums for this kind of stuff.
Also, pointless whining like yours isn't going to help anyone.
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I do not care if Opera comes here and reads our posts or not. It is their problem. We here are helping developers by testing their products mostly in beta versions. I am not going to verify Opera builders intentions. I just found Opera beta or pre-beta version, and as always we do here, stareted to test and give report. My report about 14xx versions was that it suddenly started to turn the screen to prtrait. Me and others were reported that several times. In next versions, this bug (obviously a bug) was still there, so when they officialy released their beta, I gave report that it is still there (the bug). I, again do not care if they are goping to listen to that or not. This is thair problem, as I have said. Contrary, I do care if somebody comes here and offends me, only because I do what we are suposed to do here. This is a forum for developers and their testers, here. If software is shown here, we will test and give report. Sometimes in big words if the bug is repeated in several versions. If you do not like it then go to hel from this forum, and stop offend people here.
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hi guys,
Please bear with me, i am very inexperienced to this. I have a Sprint TP & while I dont hate it, some things really annoy me. Im not sure if I need a custom rom or just a few tweaks & clean up the exisiting software, hopefully you can help.
THINGS I HATE:
Screen Lag from portrait to landscape. Sometimes I have to open & shut the phone 5 x's & take out the stylus before it switches. & general TF3D lag.
Constant notifications of messages being sent!
Not having month calender view be default.
A better way to lock keys rather than having to punch in #'s (the pre has a nice lock feature)
Battery life.
Flash Support?
A straigt up contacts button without having to load my fav, then hit a button, then load.
If some1 could point me in the right direction that would be cool. Ive read a bit & a custom rom seems a little scary, so Im nervous to do anything that complex.
THANKS!
Aight I'll bite. The screen lag your S.O.L. without changing to a custom ROM. You can try some of the reg hacks but I never found anyone them to be worth it on the stock rom.
You can change the message sent notifications in the reg or you can find a cab some where. (Searching helps) but most custom roms already have this.
Calender view is an easy one just open the calender and hit menu>tools>options and change start in to month view.
Battery, again custom rom.
Flash support. its there, again searching helps.
I noticed a huge performance and battery life increase when I quit using TF3d and 6.5 default for the today screen on any rom. You can find all those settings when you hit start>settings>today
hope that gets you started. has far which custom rom to start out with. MightyMike, Juicy, and, SSS are good starts.
Overall, do your homework, get your **** straight and go to town. It can be fun trying new software and roms on your phone and all the info is here and on ppcgeeks.
Thanks for the help. Ive read a few things here & there, but it does get confusing & i just dont want to brick my phone, that is why i am tentative about custom roms... I found a new browser for flash support (skyfire) but it looks like crap. Maybe over the weekend i can read up on the custom roms you suggested. Thanks again.
Disable SMS Sent Notification
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings] Set SMSNoSentMsg to 1
I'm new too. There's lots of good stuff up in the Raphael Wiki to get started with.
so, ive seen this before
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settin gs] Set SMSNoSentMsg to 1
Where is that exactly?
& i was just over @ pcgeeks, is seems you can put the stock rom onto your phone if needed. Is this true? Would you be able to bring it in for service if you do that? or would they be able to find out you flashed it?
You can flash the stock rom back onto the phone. Just remember to relock it as the last step.
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Thanks for the help. Ive read a few things here & there, but it does get confusing & i just dont want to brick my phone, that is why i am tentative about custom roms... I found a new browser for flash support (skyfire) but it looks like crap. Maybe over the weekend i can read up on the custom roms you suggested. Thanks again.
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Skyfire is pretty [email protected] good
Scrappy xyz said:
so, ive seen this before
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settin gs] Set SMSNoSentMsg to 1
Where is that exactly?
& i was just over @ pcgeeks, is seems you can put the stock rom onto your phone if needed. Is this true? Would you be able to bring it in for service if you do that? or would they be able to find out you flashed it?
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if you see anything with HKEY or HKLM it is referring to a registry edit. To do any of registry edits you need a registry editor such as (but not limited to) PHM or Resco explorer. These are free .cab files that can be downloaded automaticly to your phone.
What they are saying at PPC is that if you flash any roms to your phones and something happens to it or you need to take it in for repair you HAVE to change it back (or flash it back) to its original operating system...you know the laggy nonresponsiveness lol. Otherwise you run the risk of never being able to buy a phone from that company again and I dont know what else but I keep imagining public castration...which is extremly scary to me <_>
As far as battery life etc, there are some tweaks for the battery life and certain ROMS actually save battery life. There are also some programs that save battery life as well.
Theres a locking function called JMZ lockscreen that is included in some roms...personally I dont use it but then again its user preference.
I would recommend if you are wanting to change your phone a little. Look into how to unlock your phone so you can start flashing roms. The initial process takes a little bit of time, but its like riding a bike everything takes time. feel free to email me if you want and have any questions and Ill do my best to help you out.
*edit* One last thing that is CRUCIALLY important. When you go to flash a rom if you are a CDMA (verizon, etc) carrier do NOT try to install a GSM (att, etc) rom on your phone or you will kill it.
I will definatley be reading up on this stuff this weekend. I cant stand typing messages sideways anymore. Thanks for your help. Im sure Ill be posting a few more questions soon!
Hi All,
I've been searching the whole forums and looks like everyone else got no problem except mine.
I can't use multi-touch or double tap to either zoom in or out on Hero browser. When I use two fingers to squeeze in, the brower was squeezed in. But, it'll back to normal when I released.
The font size is too small. I changed text size in properties but, it doesn't change apparently. Even after refresh the page.... it's still the super small font.
It doesn't have zoom functions in properties either.
Should I send my Hero to service center after 2 days of use.
I live in singapore and just bought it 2 days ago. I've been logging into this forum for so many times to find answer about android.
Really thinking of exchanging with HTC Diamond 2.
I was Omnia user previously and Hero doesn't turn out to be the way I want.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks all.
Are you on a mobile website?
I have found the infos by watching one youtube clip. I used to surf only mobile webs and it can't be zoomed. Thus, I tried to surf destop version of Yahoo! and boom it can zoom by multi-touch.
But, it's really small font to see for mobile websites. Text size in properties doesn't change the view either.
To JBNAquatics: If you don't want to help, just skip my post. Your msg helps no one.
first of all daniel.winn.android don't be rude cause what you said about JBNAquatics is plain rude! second mobile website are just the mobile versions of the website for example if you go to urbandictionary on your phone and look at the url when viewing it in your hero you'll see www.urbandictionary.com/iphone << that is the mobile version that has been optimized to be view on mobile phone and you can't multi touch it, to stop viewing websites in there mobile versions youu'll need to do this
open the browser/menu/more/setting/ untick mobile view
To JBNAquatics: So sorry. I misinterpret your msg. Yeah, I was on mobile site. I thought you were trying to insult me as if I was saying sth wrong on my first post. After kalairn posted, then, I realised what you were trying to ask.
Thank you, kalairn.
What I was trying to say is that in Omina, I can still zoom in and out even when I view mobile version sites. But, Hero lacks in it.
But, anyway, I think I have to bear with this small font in Hero as long as I'm using it.
hmmmm text size hmmmm, well to increase the text size you'll need to do this
open the browser/menu/more/setting/ scroll down to text size
Hopefully this will make it more comfortable for you
Just check, in your post you said 'Squeezed in', in the hero this is zooming out (move your fingers closer together). to zoom in move your fingers away from each other.
I know you might flame me for that but just checking.
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Just check, in your post you said 'Squeezed in', in the hero this is zooming out (move your fingers closer together). to zoom in move your fingers away from each other.
I know you might flame me for that but just checking.
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That is actually a good point to make since it does fit the description but I highly doubt Daniel does not know the difference.
barryallott said:
Just check, in your post you said 'Squeezed in', in the hero this is zooming out (move your fingers closer together). to zoom in move your fingers away from each other.
I know you might flame me for that but just checking.
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Yeah... That was what I was trying to say... Just don't know how to put this in words...
Sorry for my poor english...
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hmmmm text size hmmmm, well to increase the text size you'll need to do this
open the browser/menu/more/setting/ scroll down to text size
Hopefully this will make it more comfortable for you
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Okie... I played around and found out another thing.
For mobile site, there isn't anyway to change text size since it's already optimized for mobile.
The test size does make difference only on desktop version sites.
Thanks all... I think I need to play with my Hero for another 1 or 2 weeks to know better how it works.
Hey guys,
I was playing with a friends touch pro2 a few days ago and when I opened Opera 10 I saw the weirdest thing. There was a much slicker UI then there is in the normal version. It even showed the time let me put it simple, It was the most BEAUTIFUL browser ive ever seen! The only odd thing was when I clicked on the addressbar the onscreen keyboard didnt pop up, so u had to use the hardware keyboard. So then I deciced to check which version it was and compared it to the one on my hd2. Strange enough it had the same version/build number:s. So for days I searched the web/xda to find info on this different Ui, but all resulted in nothing! Then suddently this morning I realised... It might be the smartphone/non-touch version! So I installed that one and tadaa.. There my baby was in its fullest glory, fully touchable and all! If only someone could get the onscreen keyboard working, This would me be the most perfect slick lookin browser available!
I made a few pictures check them out below!
cab file please?
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cab file please?
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Wow! Great work!
Can you create/add special menus as share to twitter/buzz?
I have been running FRX07.1 for awhile now and ive dun some searching but may be looking at wrong stuff so i was curious if anyone could help me with a few things .
When starting FRX07.1 i find a ton of services running and wonder is there a way to have it start up blank or with less stuff running?
- Is there any options to boot directly to FRX07.1? and what are they if there is?
- Is there a way to use live wallpapers or is it just not able to all together?
lastly, i noticed my Slide out keyboard doesn't work correctly. aka numbers and letters are all scrambled, also the light doesn't work on it either is there a fix?
You really did some searching, but didn't read the speed improvements thread at all? It's pretty much exactly what you're asking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218458
Live wallpapers are an atrocity on this old device. People still wanted 'em, so here you go.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-tp2/146914-live-wallpapers.html
The keyboard sounds like either a hardware issue, or you picked the wrong physkeyboard (or both)?
Regardless, this is in the wrong section. Your question has little to do with WinMo...
Edit - I missed the part about booting FRX directly. Gen.Y is your best bet there.