I would prefer this thread not become a "I am getting XYZ HELP!" thread, because it would be off topic. But I know it runs the risk of that because I would like to talk about the choice of Roms that XV6800 owners have used and the pros and cons of them.
I'm pretty sure I've seen the following GPS enabled ROMS on the verizon phones: (in order of complexity)
1. Original leaked ROM
2. No2Chem's nueROM http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17219
3. DCD's 2.3.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371314
4. nexvisions's http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364043
This section is now expanded to include a longer list of relative information needed to prepair for this process:
I've seen the Easy update thread: (This thread flashes the unlocker and radio in a single step using a ROM installation designed ONLY for a Sprint phone. Some believe this is why ppl have the 15 minute delay before aquiring a signal.)
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.phpHere ?t=17667
You can see documentation for DCD's update from a Verizon Customer here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1973238&postcount=536
Here are the stock roms for recovery purposes (Signed and sealed by Verizon -not rips)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1845171&postcount=13
Here is an unlocker: (also includes exit bl; read the .bat file to learn a lot and get some useful CLI commands)
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9093
Here is the Titan relocker:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=125160
Radio ROM 3.27.00
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362563
"general flashing rule is to start device in bootloader mode first and then flash. Do NOT flash it while it is running WindowsMobile OS."
Here are the generic steps to peform a standard burn from stock (works for some but all numbers should be written down in preparation)
0. WRITE DOWN ALL INFO UNDER ##778
0.1 REMOVE YOUR MicroSD CARD NOW!!!
1. Flash 2.40 unlocker using the Titanunlocker.bat inside the rar file (all files should be extracted to a new directory)
2. Flash DCD 2.3.2 (or preferred rom) different roms will
3. Flash radio 3.27
4. after booting dial a *228 to get the latest programing
That's it. It should be that simple.
If you are stuck, you might just be in the boot loader, use this tool for Verizon phones only to exit the boot loader:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9229
Here's how to recover when it is not:
1. Using a PC, format a microSD card to FAT32.
2. Using winrar or an unzipper, extract the *.nbh file from the ROM upgrade .exe.
3. Copy the *.nbh file to the formatted microSD card
4. Rename the file on the microSD card TITAIMG.nbh.
5. Insert the microSD card into the phone and reset into bootloader.
6. The phone will tell you to press the power button to flash the ROM; do so.
Going into bootloader mode: power, camera, reset all at once.
Hard reset: Press the two dot (bottom menu) keys and hit the reset button, release all after two seconds. (RUMOR: Leaving the SD card in the phone may result in the SD card content being wiped. I don't care to test the rumor.)
I've read loads of threads tonight. My problem is that most of this stuff is slanted to Sprint stuff. I'm creating this as a central place for Verizon update facts. I'd love to hear if things work or if things don't work.
I'm considering flashing my phone tomorrow, (didn't happen yet by choice) but will also be travelling starting that night. Obviously the smart thing to do would be do go without GPS on my adventures, but it would be soo cool to have it working for SxSW just for the geek factor. And that calls to me.
So, here are some of my myths and mythunderstandings:
1. Every Verizon customer who updates their radio has to call into verizon to re-authenticate their phone. But Verizon is pretty cool about that even if you say you were flashing your phone.
2. This is true even if you follow the steps in the easy guide and write everything down it tells you to write down because Verizon uses a GUID generated by the radio rom when it is used for the first time on your phone. Not all areas as of today not every area does this but most and soon all will. It depends upon where you are in their upgrade chains.
3. If you install Radio 3.27, you're a screwed verizon customer because resets (hard and soft) and power ons (?????) will no longer aquire a signal right away. You will be waiting for 15 minutes or longer before you can use your phone again and no one has a working solution to this for Verizon customers. This happens to EVERY verizon customer.
4. People have upgraded to the original leaked rom without a problem (and without that delay) and that allowed them to have working phones possibly because of one or all of the following:
a. It is signed by Verizon and you don't have to unlock your phone?
b. MAYBE it doesn't require the radio upgrade???? (FIRST REPLY STATES THE RADIO IS REQUIRED FOR ALL GPS ROMS)
c. Because it was built using only Verizon stuff it is missing whatever incompatible tool the other kitchens have in them????
d. Because it has WM 6.0 and 6.1 hasn't been tested with Verizon????
5. DCD's rom has all of the MS Office software as an installable option whereas No2Chem's excludes it. Don't know if this includes outlook or not.
6. Both of the Kitchens mentioned above will work with Verizon and they have options that allow you to choose Verizon as an install option branding your phone correctly.
So that is upgrading your verizon phone as I understand it. Am I off too far on anything? I've not seen reports of any bricks yet but I know that is always possible.
So who has tried what ROM and to what degree of success?
BrianLayman said:
I would prefer this thread not become a "I am getting XYZ HELP!" thread, because it would be off topic. But I know it runs the risk of that because I would like to talk about the choice of Roms that XV6800 owners have used and the pros and cons of them.
I'm pretty sure I've seen the following GPS enabled ROMS on the verizon phones:
1. Original leaked ROM
2. DCD 2.3.2 with 3.27 Radio upgrade
3. No2Chem
I've also seen the Easy update thread:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17667
You can see documentation for DCD's update from a Verizon Customer here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1973238&postcount=536
I've read loads of threads tonight and my problem is that most of this stuff is slanted to Sprint stuff. I'm creating this as a central place for Verizon update facts. I'd love to hear if things work or if things don't work. I'm considering flashing my phone tomorrow, but will also be travelling starting that night. Obviously the smart thing to do would be do go without GPS on my adventures, but it would be soo cool to have it working for SxSW just for the geek factor and that calls to me.
So, here are some of my myths and mythunderstandings:
1. Everyone Verizon customer has to call into verizon to re-authenticate their phone. But Verizon is pretty cool about that even if you say you were flashing your phone.
2. This is true even if you follow the steps in the easy guide and write everything down it tells you to write down because Verizon uses a GUID generated by the radio rom when it is used for the first time on your phone. Not all areas as of today not every area does this but most and soon all will. It depends upon where you are in their upgrade chains.
3. If you install Radio 3.27, you're a screwed verizon customer because resets (hard and soft) and power ons (?????) will no longer aquire a signal right away. You will be waiting for 15 minutes or longer before you can use your phone again and no one has a working solution to this for Verizon customers. This happens to EVERY verizon customer.
4. People have upgraded to the original leaked rom without a problem (and without that delay) and that allowed them to have working phones possibly because of one or all of the following:
a. It is signed by Verizon and you don't have to unlock your phone?
b. MAYBE it doesn't require the radio upgrade????
c. Because it was built using only Verizon stuff it is missing whatever incompatible tool the other kitchens have in them????
d. Because it has WM 6.0 and 6.1 hasn't been tested with Verizon????
5. DCD's rom has all of the MS Office software as an installable option whereas No2Chem's excludes it. Don't know if this includes outlook or not.
6. Both of the Kitchens mentioned above will work with Verizon and they have options that allow you to choose Verizon as an install option branding your phone correctly.
So that is upgrading your verizon phone as I understand it. Am I off too far on anything? I've not seen reports of any bricks yet but I know that is always possible.
So who has tried what ROM and to what degree of success?
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1. There are people who say they did not need to call verizon, but i did.
2. this is mostly true, some areas still use an akey but verizon will gladly give that to you, just tell them you did a hard reset.
3. the roms that work with GPS require the 3.27 radio... I had no delay with using the phone after any flash (i've done several) there is a delay for GPS to work the first time
4.a. original leaked rom was from sprint
4.b. the radio upgrade to 3.27 is required or GPS will not work and neither will any rom that is based on this radio
4.c. again original leaked rom is from sprint and contains no verizon stuff, dcd broke down the leaked rom and made available to everyone else
4.d. the titan or xv6800 shipped with 6.0 (6.1 to release soon for verizon, although i have it now)
5. the outlook portion of office is standard on all pocket pc phone
6. True...you must choose your carrier or you won't be able to connect to your towers properly
that being said, I use a rom built with dcd's kitchen and am very pleased, if you want one with lots of stuff you may want to try nexvisions rom
Hope this helps
rmancl said:
that being said, I use a rom built with dcd's kitchen and am very pleased, if you want one with lots of stuff you may want to try nexvisions rom
Hope this helps
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Thanks rmacl! That helps a lot. Reading through a few hundred pages of facts for different versions mixed in with cries for help and resolved issues can make the process, for someone who thought a kitchen was a room till a very short time ago, pretty daunting no matter how tech savy they are they are.
I appreciate your help in solidifying the details.
I will then be upgrading my phone tomorrow. I plan on following the easy update post listed above exactly as it is written.
I saw one post of a person who had done the same thing EXCEPT that they took a break and installed SPL 2.40-olipro. They had the 15 minute pause in aquiring the signal. So, I am wondering if that is a contributing factor. I'm thinking that the "Sprint unofficial 3.16 Release" includes an upgraded boot the spl/bootloader.
If this is a bad plan, or if it is not how you did it successfully and you are willing to share the steps you followed, please let me know.
Thanks again for your help.
EDIT: nexvisions rom pretty closely matches my current config. And what I don't have from that rom I like. The rest of the stuff I have installed should be enabled when I run a sprite backup restore. Thanks for the suggestion
Just did this today-
I'm using NexVision's Hybrid ROM(version based on dcd's latest 2.3.1).
I did the following:
1. Update SPL app
2. Loaded above ROM
3. Loaded latest radio
4. *228 'ed to get programming
5. did IOTA for some reason
6. No outgoing calls. Could not authenticate. Had to call VZW and they got me going in a few minutes. (the MSL for my phone i got from GetSPC.exe didn't work)
So, bottom line- My 6800 is working just fine with NexVisions Hybrid right now.
Anything else you'd like to know?
I was up and running on a DCD 2.3.2 cooked ROM and 3.27 radio with issues acquiring signal. Some have implied that running the "Easy Guide" instructions on PPCGeeks would resolve the delay in acquiring signal issues.
I couldn't get the leaked 3.16 ROM loaded using the 1.06 Bootloader, so I loaded the 2.40 Bootloader and then successfully loaded the leaked 3.16.
This put my phone on Sprint. According to the guide, running DCDs ROM that I cooked using the kitchen would reset the phone to Verizon (by selecting Verizon as my carrier.) This didn't work. Right now my phone is running the DCD ROM, 3.27 radio, and I can't get into the PST to edit the MSID and MDN.
Guess I'm going stock and upgrading again.
Am I the only one or is the fact that this phone is carried by at least 2.5(sorry alltell) major carriers a problem. We get people, admittedly I almost was one, that flash their phones with roms for the wrong carrier and then wonder what's going on. One would hope that you could pick up a cdma phone and use it on a CDMA network but that's just not true. There are tons of documented and undocumented crap holes that deviate from the spec because of the ad-hoc hobbled together system that is the United States cellular system. I would suggest splitting sprint and verizon but that would further fragment an already super fragmented market.
I am not sure the state of your phone or how to go about fixing it but the easy guide does seem to be for sprint users and not for Verizon. There is yet to be an uprgrade sanctioned for us - I hear it's coming, but I heard that with the Samsung i730 - and it took 9 months to get from 'soon' to released.
VX6800 DCD2.3.1 Working great
Ok I am an engineer on the network and perhaps Murphy got me to be over prepared and so I had the least problems. Started stock, flashed 2.40 unlocker, flashed DCD 2.3.1, flashed radio 3.27, booted back up and worked perfectly. I did write down everything, and I do mean everything that could be gotten in the PST ( by the way, the MSL on Verizon units is 000000 and no GetMSL is required) so I did not need that. I called VZW data support and told them that I was about to do a hard reset and had heard that sometimes the A key got messed up, so he gave it to me up front just in case, and because I had it ready is why I suppose I did not need it either. My signal came up perfectly, my PRL and provisioning data did need a *228 option 1 to get it back in, my GPS came right up fast and accurate, could make and receive calls right away, MMS worked perfectly right away. The only problem that I have with the new ROM is that the 'box type' mini-usb to 3.5 mm adapter with the mini-usb pass thru does not work properly anymore, but my stock one and my pigtail adapters do work, so it is somthing in the adapter design. Also SelectRadio 4.02 drops out as if the data connection goes down and back up, but it does not. I look at the PPP data and it is perfect, and when I just put my channels in Resco Pocket Radio all is well.
Well, I'm a long experienced IT guy with a background of working in cellular....so I'm not exactly ignorant on the subject.
madman, I did the exact steps you did, with the exception of writing down every setting in the PST (just the MSID and MDN). Yet my phone takes 15-20 minutes to acquire signal. Was there anything you had to adjust besides the MSID and the MDN?
To complete my story from my last post, I was able to recover back to a VZW stock ROM and try again. Second time around I didn't let the Sprint cutomizations run. That fixed the problem of my phone being "Sprintized". However, it didn't help with my issues acquiring signal (which was the entire reason I went through this exercise.) BLAH.
Having 1 set of instruction for Sprint and Verizon is fine, but what we need is are people from each side working together on the documentation. Right now everything seems to be completed by Sprint users.
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To complete my story from my last post, I was able to recover back to a VZW stock ROM and try again. Second time around I didn't let the Sprint cutomizations run. That fixed the problem of my phone being "Sprintized". However, it didn't help with my issues acquiring signal (which was the entire reason I went through this exercise.) BLAH.
Having 1 set of instruction for Sprint and Verizon is fine, but what we need is are people from each side working together on the documentation. Right now everything seems to be completed by Sprint users.
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I'm willing to bet it's the fact that you used a sprint rom. Even though it said you weren't sprintized I bet there are still sprint ghosts in your phone. These things aren't well documented nor are they straight forward. I am sure that there is something in the sprint rom that is causing your problem (it's the only thing that is different from stories of people who have been successful)
ICLKennyG said:
I'm willing to bet it's the fact that you used a sprint rom. Even though it said you weren't sprintized I bet there are still sprint ghosts in your phone. These things aren't well documented nor are they straight forward. I am sure that there is something in the sprint rom that is causing your problem (it's the only thing that is different from stories of people who have been successful)
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Well, what you are saying is basically what I've suspected all along. I think the 3.27 radio is basically a rip from a Sprint ROM...right?
This is why I am trying to get a VZW tech to review ALL of the PST settings with me. She was gonna call back, but stupid me, I think I reset my phone and missed her call. Grrrrrr
Geckotek said:
Well, what you are saying is basically what I've suspected all along. I think the 3.27 radio is basically a rip from a Sprint ROM...right?
This is why I am trying to get a VZW tech to review ALL of the PST settings with me. She was gonna call back, but stupid me, I think I reset my phone and missed her call. Grrrrrr
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What I am saying is the Sprint Rom is for Sprint. The radio is a radio from what I can tell. It doesn't seem to be setup to be one company or another with the correct rom. However what you are doing is taking a rom that is built by another carrier for their network and trying to use it on your network. Use a verizon intended rom (Hint: not sprint) and the 3.27 radio and you should be fine.
One would hope that you could just strip the sprint part out of their roms and run it on the VZW network but we all know these devices are more hodgepodge then strict implementation of standards.
ICLKennyG said:
What I am saying is the Sprint Rom is for Sprint. The radio is a radio from what I can tell. It doesn't seem to be setup to be one company or another with the correct rom. However what you are doing is taking a rom that is built by another carrier for their network and trying to use it on your network. Use a verizon intended rom (Hint: not sprint) and the 3.27 radio and you should be fine.
One would hope that you could just strip the sprint part out of their roms and run it on the VZW network but we all know these devices are more hodgepodge then strict implementation of standards.
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There is no Verizon intended ROM that I'm aware of that supports the 3.27 radio.
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6. No outgoing calls. Could not authenticate. Had to call VZW and they got me going in a few minutes. (the MSL for my phone i got from GetSPC.exe didn't work)
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getspc.exe is for sprint only
the msl code for verizon is "000000" minus the "'s
I've added a bunch of info to the first post. I haven't had time to do the flash till now. After I pack tomorrow, I should be able to do it. Plus I wanted to have all my ducks in a row for this process. I'm now fairly confident I know most of the failure points in the process and how to recover from them... we'll see.
Geckotek said:
There is no Verizon intended ROM that I'm aware of that supports the 3.27 radio.
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Ummmmm NexVision IS a verizon user and his ROM is most certainly built for verizon above others, sprint and alltel second. DCD also has an option in his kitchen for verizon. as for No2Chem... I havnt used his rom so I couldnt tell you for sure. But I assure you as I am alive and breathing, there are ROMs intended for the Big Red V, I know I use one and Love it. I messed up when I first flashed, but never had to call VZW about it, just reflashed to stock then tried again.
As stated, I used both DCD and NexVision and both activated, called and surfed on the network. If you have any specific questions, I will gladly field them, Specialy since I have insurance on the phone... If it hoses, i will break and replace it.
Launching my first rom flashing...
blksprk said:
Ummmmm NexVision IS a verizon user and his ROM is most certainly built for verizon above others, sprint and alltel second. DCD also has an option in his kitchen for verizon. as for No2Chem... I havnt used his rom so I couldnt tell you for sure. But I assure you as I am alive and breathing, there are ROMs intended for the Big Red V, I know I use one and Love it. I messed up when I first flashed, but never had to call VZW about it, just reflashed to stock then tried again.
As stated, I used both DCD and NexVision and both activated, called and surfed on the network. If you have any specific questions, I will gladly field them, Specialy since I have insurance on the phone... If it hoses, i will break and replace it.
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Ummmmmm, you completely missed the point.
So is there any word when Verizon will release an update similar to what we are able to do with the new ROMs and Radio?
I mean if it's going to be a month away, I may just, if it's going to be 3 months or forever then I guess I'll have to try it.
It seems either it works perfect, or it doesn't, and some people don't need to enter in an akey? Interesting...
I went from a stock XV6800 (Verizon) to the 2.40 unlocker, the 3.27 radio and a ROM built off of DCD's 2.3.2 kitchen. I did not need to record *any* of the phone's programming info. After flashing, *228 successfully set up the phone and I was able to start making/receiving calls.
"3. If you install Radio 3.27, you're a screwed verizon customer because resets (hard and soft) and power ons (?????) will no longer aquire a signal right away. You will be waiting for 15 minutes or longer before you can use your phone again and no one has a working solution to this for Verizon customers. This happens to EVERY verizon customer."
This seems not to be true, because I'm a Verizon customer and it didn't happen for me. I get both a cell and data signal right away on either reset (soft, anyway; haven't had to try hard yet) or power-on.
I'm a happy camper so far, with the only glitch being one unexplained soft reset one morning while the phone was waking up to execute an alarm. The phone reset instead and the alarm sounded when it came back up. Hasn't happened again since.
rmancl said:
getspc.exe is for sprint only...
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No, I can verify that it works for Telus as well.
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It left all kinds of Sprint stuff in the EPST, not sure how to clean that up, or if I'm screwed.
Anyone know of a way to get it all restored back to Verizon acceptable?
I have the 2.4 SPD, Radio 3.27, and DCD 2.2.6 and expect for no phone service, love it.
I've called Verizon, they have not been helpful, I did check my a-key both before and after and it was blank both times.
Help?
Fred Rat said:
It left all kinds of Sprint stuff in the EPST, not sure how to clean that up, or if I'm screwed.
Anyone know of a way to get it all restored back to Verizon acceptable?
I have the 2.4 SPD, Radio 3.27, and DCD 2.2.6 and expect for no phone service, love it.
I've called Verizon, they have not been helpful, I did check my a-key both before and after and it was blank both times.
Help?
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I don't know if it will work, but try going into the phone app and dialing ##786 Talk
This is supposed to completely reset the device, including the EPST settings, to factory clean. You will need to restore the MSID and MDN, so make sure you know what they are. I do not know if you will need to obtain an a-key from VZW. After that you will probably need to do the *228 setup.
If that does not work, maybe reflashing the radio and Verizon ROM will help.
I've got it fixed
Thanks for the tip; while I was waiting for that I tried a number of things, one of which worked.
What I did was to reflash the stock verizon rom from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359659&page=2
Using the complete version.
This put back the original radio and rom.
When I rebooted after that, it ran some cabs on first boot. One of them was called something like ResetRadio. Anyway after that I was able to call *228 and could do both options 1 and 2. Which I could not do successfully before.
I was still getting unauthenticated messages when I tried to call anyone, and could not take incoming calls.
I then called VZW and got a new A-Key, that fixed the phone so I could call in/out, but internet access was still broken.
They had me take my battery out, while they did something on their end; after that we redid the *228 and internet access is now working. We did a test text message and that worked as well.
I think the key in all of this, is to NOT flash the Sprint ROM into a Verizon phone, but if you do, you can reflash the Verizon version to put things back in order from the link I mentioned above.
I am using a DCD rom 2.2.6, and while I am a noob on some of this, I seem to recall him mentioning that he no longer includes the extended ROM; if that includes the part that resets the radio on a hard reset, I think it's actually required for people to keep their sanity.
Hope this helps, and for those that are worried that they will screw up their phones and have no way back from the far side of disaster, I can say that I've been there and made my way back.
Best of luck to you all.
DCD 2.2.6, GPS, and yes I can even make phone calls!
I am helping my mom with her VX6800 for verizon. I first flashed the RUU_TITAN_SPRINT_WWE_3.35.651.2_RS_TITAN_3.35.04_4 350H_SPCS_AM_Ship ROM, just to get the radio from it (If anyone knows where to get the entire Ship ROM with 3.42.30 please tell me, can't find it). I then flashed DCD 3.2.2 and then installed the Verizon carrier cab.
The phone was working right away to make calls, although it still showed Sprint on it, as opposed to Verizon. When i try to access the internet it gives me an error saying "Dialed #777, Cannot connect for unknown reason." I had flashed a verizon phone for a friend before and had to call verizon to get a new code, doesn't seem like the issue here but not sure why i'm not getting internet service and if it has anything to do with the sprint logo showing on the screen..
TIA!!
Sounds like maybe you let the sprint ROM reboot (reset) after you flashed it to get the radio? Check the Titan WIKI on XDA and it'll tell you everything you need to know to fix it.
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Sounds like maybe you let the sprint ROM reboot (reset) after you flashed it to get the radio? Check the Titan WIKI on XDA and it'll tell you everything you need to know to fix it.
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I have read through the Wiki a few times and it doesn't say anything in there about the ROM rebooting or resetting
"To flash, enter bootloader mode by pressing the power, camera button and then the reset button. The screen should be at a three colored (red, Blue and Green) screen, check to make sure you have the appropriate bootloader. Then plug the device and computer into the USB cable. Start the RUU.exe upgrade program on the PC that usually is provided with the ROM."
I did all this, except not sure if i am using a RUU utility, i just double click on the ROM icon,which i think has the RUU built in. It then flashes the SPrint ROM. if i am supposed to do something after it has finished flashing to prevent it from rebooting or resetting i couldn't find it in the wiki, so if u can just tell me that would help me out a lot...thanks heaps
you let the customizations run... end of discussion...
i think at this point, it'd be easiest for you to flash back to Verizon STOCK and then follow my guide to upgrade it (see signature)..
To flash back to stock, see the info from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376873
You need to reset before the carrier customizations kick in. If you didn't then that is why you have the Sprint info on your phone.
There are a bunch of threads here about this problem. Let me see if I can find a link to one.
Here is some more info from the wiki:
do NOT boot into the OS after flashing to any of these ROMs.. After screen calibration the carrier customisations will run and alter your EPST settings to that operator's settings.
OOPS! You just let the customisations run but are with a different carrier than the ROM you just flashed to!
Choose A or B
A.follow above EPST instructions in step I to edit back to the settings that you recorded
B.Goto to the Titan Stock Page to restore your device back your carrier's default settings, boot into the OS and permit the cusomisations to run, and then return back here to start over again.
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you dont need to reset at all. ugh. follow these steps:
1) flash sprint rom
2) at 'tap screen to set up device' flash your rom of choice
3) install carrier cab
4) soft reset
literally, its that simple. if you need a step by step, i guess here you go:
1) flash sprint rom
no need to enter bootloader unless your installing from SD​2) after rom installs, it will automatically reset
3) at 'tap screen to set up device', unplug and plug your phone back in
4)run (assuming you are using DCD) the kitchen or the RUU.
phone will reset after done installing​5) calibrate the screen and let customizations run
6) install carrier cab
7) soft reset
done
Dillsnik said:
I am helping my mom with her VX6800 for verizon. I first flashed the RUU_TITAN_SPRINT_WWE_3.35.651.2_RS_TITAN_3.35.04_4 350H_SPCS_AM_Ship ROM, just to get the radio from it (If anyone knows where to get the entire Ship ROM with 3.42.30 please tell me, can't find it). I then flashed DCD 3.2.2 and then installed the Verizon carrier cab.
The phone was working right away to make calls, although it still showed Sprint on it, as opposed to Verizon. When i try to access the internet it gives me an error saying "Dialed #777, Cannot connect for unknown reason." I had flashed a verizon phone for a friend before and had to call verizon to get a new code, doesn't seem like the issue here but not sure why i'm not getting internet service and if it has anything to do with the sprint logo showing on the screen..
TIA!!
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Hi there,
The 3.42.30 Radio was pulled from a Vogue and was modified to work with there Titan, therefore there is no ship ROM for it. Your best bet is to format an SD card with the FAT32 filesystem and copy the TITAIMG.NBH onto it and load up in bootloader mode. There are thorough instructions in the Titan wiki. Best of luck!
Hate to break it to you all, but if he let customizations run...then he's screwed unless he can get Verizon to issue him a DMU reset. If not, the phone needs to be replaced. End of story.
damn....I had to get a new phone after my first time flashing too...
gc14 said:
Hate to break it to you all, but if he let customizations run...then he's screwed unless he can get Verizon to issue him a DMU reset. If not, the phone needs to be replaced. End of story.
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Are you serious?? oh no
How would you go about asking vzw for a DMU reset? i'm not sure what that is....and would vzw do a phone replacement??? they won't say it was voided?
Thanks all for all your help...i haven't had a chance to reflash anything yet, but gonna give it a go later today and pray it works!
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Are you serious?? oh no
How would you go about asking vzw for a DMU reset? i'm not sure what that is....and would vzw do a phone replacement??? they won't say it was voided?
Thanks all for all your help...i haven't had a chance to reflash anything yet, but gonna give it a go later today and pray it works!
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if you call verizon, youre gunna have to make it sound like you know WAY more than they do about the issue. if you google 'DMU reset', im sure youll find some information about this. if you have another phone, switch your service to the other ESN, then switch it back. then call verizon and say that your MIP settings are not receiving a static IP from verizon. tell them you just switched your service back to this phone, and youve had this issue before. Tell them you need the data features removed and re-added to the account, and you need your DMU keys reset.
if you cant switch ESNs to and back, youll have to say you had a serious software issue on your phone, which required a hard reset and now your data connection is taking way longer than normal to connect, and you would like your DMU keys reset.
i recommend researching as much as you can about this before calling. depending on the TSR you get, they could ask you alot of questions. most of the time, if you answer all their questions before they ask them, theyll do what you say
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when you do talk to them, before they can tell you any steps, make sure you tell them that you've:
soft reset
hard reset
clear storage
*288 1
*228 2
*22899
those are all the general things theyre gunna tell you to do before they reset anything for you. you just need to make it sound like youve already done everything possible, so the last possible step is resetting your keys for you
VZW has....well, an interesting way of doing things
So, I spoke to a VZW rep tonight after flashing back to a stock VZW ROM and, as expected, not getting a data connection (or able to make calls).
The rep was pretty helpful and knowledgeable. Mind you, i am on AT&T and this is my mom's phone i am helping her with (or at least trying to ). ATT base reps suck and for any minor network thing i would always need to speak to a data support tech (who these days tend to also suck pretty bad as well!) This VZW rep was no dummy and, to my surprise, understood all the things i threw at her. She was overly diligent which gets annoying, retrying lots of the same things, but i understand these people need to be, and she was making progress (bc after flashing the stock ROM my voice calling wasn't working initially either).
When I mentioned doing a DMU reset she explained that she can't do that and in order to have that done she needs to submit a request to her network team. I thought she would have them call me to troubleshoot the problem or something, but that isn't how it works . The network team doesn't speak to customers; she would be calling me back to tell me that the problem should be fixed and they did what they needed to do. I found it odd that they wouldn't need to speak to me to find out if it is working or not....Apparently, she said, they can tell if my phone is working/not working for the data connection.
For now i am kind of impressed with VZW's whole approach on how to solve this kind of thing (although it'd been nice if i coulda spoke NOW to a rep that can actually fix my problem), but i am a bit skeptical that it is actually gonna happen. We'll see what they come back with and hopefully i don't get run around in circles and they can indeed get my data working by resetting the DMU or whatever they need to do.
So, I spoke to a VZW rep tonight after flashing back to a stock VZW ROM and, as expected, not getting a data connection (or able to make calls).
The rep was pretty helpful and knowledgeable. Mind you, i am on AT&T and this is my mom's phone i am helping her with (or at least trying to ). ATT base reps suck and for any minor network thing i would always need to speak to a data support tech (who these days tend to also suck pretty bad as well!) This VZW rep was no dummy and, to my surprise, understood all the things i threw at her. She was overly diligent which gets annoying, retrying lots of the same things, but i understand these people need to be, and she was making progress (bc after flashing the stock ROM my voice calling wasn't working initially either).
When I mentioned doing a DMU reset she explained that she can't do that and in order to have that done she needs to submit a request to her network team. I thought she would have them call me to troubleshoot the problem or something, but that isn't how it works . The network team doesn't speak to customers; she would be calling me back to tell me that the problem should be fixed and they did what they needed to do. I found it odd that they wouldn't need to speak to me to find out if it is working or not....Apparently, she said, they can tell if my phone is working/not working for the data connection.
For now i am kind of impressed with VZW's whole approach on how to solve this kind of thing (although it'd been nice if i coulda spoke NOW to a rep that can actually fix my problem), but i am a bit skeptical that it is actually gonna happen. We'll see what they come back with and hopefully i don't get run around in circles and they can indeed get my data working by resetting the DMU or whatever they need to do.
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She could have performed the DMU reset without bringing in the network team. She just didn't know how.
oh. well, for what it's worth, your support reps (even the bad ones apparantly) for the most part seem way better than the ones @ ATT! still not planning on switching any time soon though
Thank you!
I just want to deeply thank everyone that contributed to helping me get my problem fixed. The phone is now up and running and I am most appreciative to all of you that took the time to help me!!!
You really have a great community here!
FWIW, Verizon data tech fixed my problem but when i asked what he did he would not tell me....he basically said he "checked some things out and madde sure everything was set up right" while he had me take out my battery and wait. I asked what specifically he did, for research purposes and he said he couldn't tell me
Lol..he performed a DMU reset. I swear some of those techs are so dumb.
Well, he actually denied that he did a DMU reset cause i asked if that was specifically what he did and he said, no...i just checked some things out...and wouldn't tell me what he did.
i am sure you're right, he did the reset, but they must be instructed not to tell customers what they do...i guess maybe to try to prevent us from telling them what to do?
Talked to a VZ tech today who told me that if i was to activate to VZW and get a phone I could do an ESN change (he would force the ESN on the VZW network) with my Alltel PPC6800....
One catch he said I had to flash the phone with the VZW firmware before he could do it so he could be held liable for extra charge if the phone wasnt VZW compatiable, also he can not supply me with the flash kit.
Anyone have any ideas on this ?
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Talked to a VZ tech today who told me that if i was to activate to VZW and get a phone I could do an ESN change (he would force the ESN on the VZW network) with my Alltel PPC6800....
One catch he said I had to flash the phone with the VZW firmware before he could do it so he could be held liable for extra charge if the phone wasnt VZW compatiable, also he can not supply me with the flash kit.
Anyone have any ideas on this ?
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Flash it, and then call him back. It not hard & works great.
flash the mr1 update. here's the wiki for flashing, recommend you read over that. you should however flash VZ's rom and have them program your phone before flashing any sort of custom rom.
DO NOT FLASH THE VZW MR1 ROM!
THis will lock down you GPS to be used only by VZ Navigator. Assuming that you care to have unlocked GPS.
Do you care about GPS?
Also need to know the ROM you have right now.
Go to System->Settings->About (?) and report what it says.
Flash To MR1 and use the Valhalla fix to unlock GPS. Or do like others said go to MR1 and then to a custom rom. Last choice is go to the Stock 6800 with no 6.1 and then go to a customer DCD rom after they authorize the phone. You have many choices.
Well since GPS wasnt really a factor to me i decided to go ahead and run the RUU_TITAN_VZW_WWE_3.57.605.1_RS_TITAN_3.37.75_OM_VZW_ShipFULL file from the HTC website and i got to 11% and got an error 294 Invalid Vendor ID
Do I need to unlock this phone first? makes sense but i didnt try first.
Also
Windows Mobile 6 Pro CE OS 5.2.1629 Build 18136.0.4.8
and
TITA100
SPL-2.07.0000
CPLD-9
instead of me getting frustrated and then drunk may i ask someone to layout the instructions they would follow to flash this alltel phone to the MR1 VZ flash...
All the reading is making my head hurt and i understand less and less the more i read
edit:: Ok 6 beers later i got the nerve up to use the Hard-SPL-MFG.exe and the RUU from the verizon site so far so good going monday to see about getting it turned on then i get to restore tomtom off of my sd card and follow the GPS fix and see if that works.
Thanks for the advice
Just an update
Just wanted to update everyone that VZ swapped my Alltel PPC over with no questions. They told us (me and the tech) to dial *228 and choose opt. 3 and the system activated no problem....maybe this is verizon getting ready for the Open Equipment Policy???? I dunno but it sure made my life a little easier...just got the dreaded PPP 11 Error now no help for that
edit:: So the tech that swapped my equipment an hour ago called me back from the store ( I work at Radioshack and VZ is four doors down so we are friends) to come and get my phone that the PPP 11 Error will be fixed tomorrow when a higher teir is at work that for SOME REASON ed(hehehe) the VZW system didnt recognize the ESN as a PPC and the Data Session was Hung somewhere. Everything else is working calling in and out and reg sms txt is sending just no Data till tomorrow
!!!!!!QUESTION for anyone who reads this....I just got to thinking this is something that should be on the Wiki for people with data problems mainly with all the Number porting,,,on the PPP usernames should it be
your MDN or MSID @vzw3g.com ???? because for some of us that is two different numbers
so what is the update on this because I can get the alltel version for like 50 while the vzw is twice as much not to mention the alltel version looks better.
It is a whole lot of work to try to get the phone on. And there are no guarantees
so even though Verizon is a parent company of Alltel I just can't flash it with Verizon rom and then get it activated on VZW?
I was wondering if anyone else has seen this behavior.
The phones appeared to have the original VZW roms on them but I admit I didn't look as closely as I should have and write down the numbers.
I've two warranty replaced phones that work this way.
1. Flash olipro&latest radio & latest (4.1) DCD rom
2. *228 (succesfully)
(Thinking back, the first time I did this I *228ed before applying the carrier rom)
3. After that calls cannot be made EVERY call even *228 results in a roaming "call lost"
I can flash back the original signed VZW rom that was posted here a while back and restore phone operations.
The *228 update then worked but could not check messages. The switch to non-broadband phone and back to the titan got me able to check voicemail successfully. I've redone the cycle but after applying the DCD rom, it doesn't take me back to a phone needs initial programming state. I'm gonna try to go full circle a third time now and see if I missed anything when it was 2am.
*ADDITIONAL: I just realized that when power is hit or the phone battery saves to power off, it locks up. Even though the lights still blink.
Do you have any thoughts? Have you seen this before?
I'm tempted to install the latest from HTC, but I don't want to give up on GPS - or has it the recovery from that been proven now?
Status update!
I had also noticed that there was a 2mo newer carrier cab from DCD. That didn't help.
At this point I've up/down/crossgraded to MR2 successfully.
This resolved the lockup problem.
I am in the process of following this thread to resolve the GPS issues. Hopefully the new roms will work with this radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481750
A work around
Ok I went through that whole process to no avail.
However, I found a solution that I REALLY dislike and you will too once I tell you what it is.
It seemed pretty obvious that vzw somehow flagged the phone during the upgrade process to disable it. This was perhaps because I hadn't loaded the carrier cab when I updated, though I've done that before on earlier without any lasting effect.
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I strongly discourage you from taking the steps I have done below. Done incorrectly, you are committing a prosecutable crime with jail time involved.
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Knowing calls were blocked and that I would have a chance to hit hangup before the call was actually placed (that's why it beeps) I dialed 911 hit send and hit hangup. Obviously the call did not even start because the phone was in lock down mode (I haven't mentioned this before but the phone always booted to the extended network.) when the call was attempted. However, Verizon is also obligated to process all 911 calls. So, it switched from extended, to roaming, to Verizon. The call had been canceled even before it got to roaming, so there was no contact with emergency services. The upside is that the phone is now on the Verizon Network with the new radio and new ROM. I can do everything except a *228. This includes checking voicemail, #768, rebooting etc. I've not tried a hard reset, nor do I think I will.
I REALLY don't like the method, but I have my phone back.
I'm traveling to TX next week for SxSW again. I may see if I can do a *228 from there and get a better result.
I have a PPC6800 flashed with one of Ryan's Alltel 6.5 ROMS (Great job Ryan!). The phone worked great in my home area after the flash, but I'm currently on vacation and cannot get a EVDO signal in Orlando! I get decent signal for voice in most places, but really just enought to make calls, lots of "can you hear me now" in the conversations. Verizons maps show that they cover this area completely so I went by the Verizon store to see if they could update the phone. The tech guy said that the phone was still really an Alltel phone and there was nothing that he could do. (he was kinda a jerk, didn't appear to even want to help) I use the data connection alot and have become very dependent on it to stay in touch with my office, but with my current 1x connection, email is about all it's good for.
My questions are:
Can I apply the Verizon version of the ROM to the phone without bricking it?
If not, is there something I can do myself to "update" to tap into Verizon's EVDO network?
Thanks for any help.
you can start by updating your prl *228 option 1 or 2 (dont remember)
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you can start by updating your prl *228 option 1 or 2 (dont remember)
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Yeah, I tried that, but since I'm already out of my home area, it doesn't work. All I get is "programming unsuccessful" or something like that.
Alltel's pda support is pretty good. Call in & get one of them on the line. They will try & make you do the *228 thing. Also check your setting for Home Only/Roam and see if that makes a difference at all.
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I have a PPC6800 flashed with one of Ryan's Alltel 6.5 ROMS (Great job Ryan!). The phone worked great in my home area after the flash, but I'm currently on vacation and cannot get a EVDO signal in Orlando! I get decent signal for voice in most places, but really just enought to make calls, lots of "can you hear me now" in the conversations. Verizons maps show that they cover this area completely so I went by the Verizon store to see if they could update the phone. The tech guy said that the phone was still really an Alltel phone and there was nothing that he could do. (he was kinda a jerk, didn't appear to even want to help) I use the data connection alot and have become very dependent on it to stay in touch with my office, but with my current 1x connection, email is about all it's good for.
My questions are:
Can I apply the Verizon version of the ROM to the phone without bricking it?
If not, is there something I can do myself to "update" to tap into Verizon's EVDO network?
Thanks for any help.
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Lol WOW.. If your Carrier is Verizon why the heck would you flash my Alltel ROM?? WTF do you think its an Alltel ROM for?? Its not a stock ROM it is a Custom ROM meant to flash on any TITAN(mogul, ppc6800).. It is fully programmed (besides PST/QPST a user has to program that memory region of the phone themselves) for the Carrier..
What you should have done was take your "Alltel Branded" PPC6800 and flashed the olipro2.40 unlocked bootloader, then flash a Custom Verizon ROM, then flash a gps radio 3.35 and up, then hard reset and pull battery for a couple minutes. Make sure the phone is UNPLUGGED and boot it up. Now access PST and Program it for VERIZON, load your local Verizon PRL, and update the items so phone resets. When it boots back up you want to access DMR (diagnostic mode) and plug it into the computer and Program QPST for VERIZON, make sure everything is set for Verizon you have to do some searching.. Also make sure to do the GPS one tab last and write to phone while still in that TAB, do not leave the GPS one tab until after its completed. Now unplug the phone and open task manager and close DMR, now soft reset the phone. Keep it UNPLUGGED and when it boots up access the internet to set it up for the first time.
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Lol WOW.. If your Carrier is Verizon why the heck would you flash my Alltel ROM?? WTF do you think its an Alltel ROM for?? Its not a stock ROM it is a Custom ROM meant to flash on any TITAN(mogul, ppc6800).. It is fully programmed (besides PST/QPST a user has to program that memory region of the phone themselves) for the Carrier..
What you should have done was take your "Alltel Branded" PPC6800 and flashed the olipro2.40 unlocked bootloader, then flash a Custom Verizon ROM, then flash a gps radio 3.35 and up, then hard reset and pull battery for a couple minutes. Make sure the phone is UNPLUGGED and boot it up. Now access PST and Program it for VERIZON, load your local Verizon PRL, and update the items so phone resets. When it boots back up you want to access DMR (diagnostic mode) and plug it into the computer and Program QPST for VERIZON, make sure everything is set for Verizon you have to do some searching.. Also make sure to do the GPS one tab last and write to phone while still in that TAB, do not leave the GPS one tab until after its completed. Now unplug the phone and open task manager and close DMR, now soft reset the phone. Keep it UNPLUGGED and when it boots up access the internet to set it up for the first time.
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Ryan, I normally agree with you 100%, but I don't think that's the case here. I'm pretty sure he's an Alltel customer that is confused because of Verizon's recent purchase of Alltel.
Basically, Verizon is not going to be fully taking Alltel phones onto their network...ever. They are still Alltel phones. BUT there are new PRLs out there which will allow you to completely utilize the entire Verizon (and Sprint, too) tower structure.
So what he should do is still with the Alltel ROM. And because Alltel gives the 6800 their 3xxxx series PRLs and not the higher quality 4xxxx series, he needs to donwload the best PRL and update it manually.
Here's a link to a page where you can download the latest PRL 40050. There are instructions on the page to show you how o install. The one change I've had to do is instead of simply ##775, I had to do ##775#.
http://www.the-answerman.com/sidlist/prl/index.asp
Good luck!
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Ryan, I normally agree with you 100%, but I don't think that's the case here. I'm pretty sure he's an Alltel customer that is confused because of Verizon's recent purchase of Alltel.
Basically, Verizon is not going to be fully taking Alltel phones onto their network...ever. They are still Alltel phones. BUT there are new PRLs out there which will allow you to completely utilize the entire Verizon (and Sprint, too) tower structure.
So what he should do is still with the Alltel ROM. And because Alltel gives the 6800 their 3xxxx series PRLs and not the higher quality 4xxxx series, he needs to donwload the best PRL and update it manually.
Here's a link to a page where you can download the latest PRL 40050. There are instructions on the page to show you how o install. The one change I've had to do is instead of simply ##775, I had to do ##775#.
http://www.the-answerman.com/sidlist/prl/index.asp
Good luck!
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Thanks for trying to clear things up but its still a little inconclusive. You said he is an Alltel Customer, you also said that Verizon bought Alltel.. Now remember he says he has a "Alltel Branded" TITAN.
If Verizon bought Alltel that means the Carrier Alltel still exists, it wasnt a merger correct?
Ok then, if he has a Alltel TITAN, and he is an Alltel Customer, with my Alltel ROM. Why even mention that VERIZON will not take Alltel phones onto their network??? You said he is an Alltel customer, and he has a Genuine Alltel TITAN, so he would be activating the Genuine Alltel TITAN on Alltel..
I was confused because of all this talk about Verizon maps, verizon store, etc.... I see what you mean about his PRL, so hopefully he updates to the 4xxxx series and his issues vanish. But wow what confusing posts..
Hopefully the Verizon, Alltel purchase doesnt affect my Alltel or Verizon ROMs from working properly. I wouldnt be suprised though..
I think the downloaded PRL should do the trick. I used to work for Alltels data support and they cannot help unless you are on network. If you are roaming on another carriers tower then nothing can be done to manually push a new prl through to the phone. I know from experience that Orlando/Kissimmee area is a tricky area. The issue is that Alltels PRLs are very crappy. There are towers in the area which will not incur you roaming charges, but for whatever reason, the phones will not choose to connect to. I forget the SID of the towers in the area which will get you 3-4 bars of EVDO coverage. What I have done before while I am there is to keep checking your phone to see if it picks up on those towers (it will from time to time). Go and check the current SID number and then set that as your home SID and put the phone in home only mode, which will lock you into those group of towers while you are in that area. Of course, if you leave the area you will want to set your phone back to your normal home SID and take the phone out of home only mode. Hopefully the PRL update via that download link above will help you, but if it doesn't then try this method. I will warn you that if you get the wrong tech on the phone and they try and help you update your phone, then they could make matters worst for you.
so, like i said on post #2 update your prl!!! by any means.
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...I was confused because of all this talk about Verizon maps, verizon store, etc.... I see what you mean about his PRL, so hopefully he updates to the 4xxxx series and his issues vanish. But wow what confusing posts..
Hopefully the Verizon, Alltel purchase doesnt affect my Alltel or Verizon ROMs from working properly. I wouldnt be suprised though..
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LOL, if my post was confusing it's because I'm pretty confused. I went to the Verizon store for several reasons.
I am out of my home area and the nearest Alltel Store is 75 miles away (Tampa,FL).
My Home Store is now a Verizon Store.
I recieved a letter telling me that I was now on the Verizon Network.
When I dial a wrong number I get a Verizon recording.
I heard that Verizon bought Alltel
When I got to the Verizon store, they told me
I was still an Alltel customer
Verizon doesn't carry a phone llike mine (PPC6800)
My phone was a pocket pc phone not a smart phone (yes that's what he said)
There was nothing he could do.
Call Alltel tech Support (he was kind enough to give me their number).
The Alltel guy, though courteous and seemingly genuine in his efforts to help, could not. He even mentioned that he had been in Orlando recently and had the same problem. His only recommendation was to take the battery out overnight so everything would clear and maybe when it reconnected it would update the PRLs.
My apologies for not being more clear.
On a positive note, I took btonetbone's advice and updated the PRL,(this is what I'd hoped the Verizon tech could do) and I am currently getting EVDO connection, at least the status indicator says so. I'm not getting a very good signal where I'm at so the speed is not great. 267 DOWN, 314 UP (oddly enough) on a Speakeasy speed test. I'll see how it works tomorrow when I can get a better signal and know more then.
Thanks to all who have responded, I understand things a little better now.
RyanMogul6800 said:
Lol WOW.. If your Carrier is Verizon why the heck would you flash my Alltel ROM?? WTF do you think its an Alltel ROM for?? Its not a stock ROM it is a Custom ROM meant to flash on any TITAN(mogul, ppc6800).. It is fully programmed (besides PST/QPST a user has to program that memory region of the phone themselves) for the Carrier..
What you should have done was take your "Alltel Branded" PPC6800 and flashed the olipro2.40 unlocked bootloader, then flash a Custom Verizon ROM...
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Had the Alltel ROM not worked so well in my home area that's exactly what I would have done. Well.... It's exactly what I would have done after coming here and finding out how to do it.
Thanks for your hard work...
No problem I am glad you got it sorted out, those speeds are better than nothing at all so you are getting somewhere. Also I breezed by your compliments on my work but thanks for the compliments.
Members in general are great here, very knowledgeable and persistent. This is literally the best forum around.. Too bad they dont go the "thanks button" route though that would be magnificent.