I switched over to the titan from my BB Curve that also had a 2mp camera, and the Curve took beautiful shots. But every photo i've taken with the titan looks terrible at best... unless i'm going for that modern-art-fuzzy-washed-out look... Are there any fixes/hacks/adjustments that are available to improve the camera quality? I have everything set on high, played around with the white balance, all the other settings. Any suggestions are appreciated!
I'm on DCD's 2.3.1 rom right now, but the photo quality has been poorly ever since i purchased the phone with the stock rom and all the roms in between.
I would recommend trying the touch camera. The flash doesnt work, but the pictures are a million times better.
the touch camera is included in DCD's kitchen
Does anyone have a separate link for the Touch Camera as a CAB file, I have trouble downloading large files at work, can't go for the kitchen.
Can I rephrase the question?
Does anyone know why the shutter speed on the titan (and the apache) are so freaking slow?
I've found that the only decent pics I can take are pics of totally stationary objects, so clearly, the shutter is just staying open for too long.
Any input? Any chance there's a registry setting we can change to speed up the shutter?
before the shutter speed comes into effect, the titan just doesn't seem to be able to focus properly, everything is always extremely blurry, especially when trying to take shots of objects close up. I've never had an HTC device before, are they all poorly built when it comes to the camera?
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before the shutter speed comes into effect, the titan just doesn't seem to be able to focus properly, everything is always extremely blurry, especially when trying to take shots of objects close up. I've never had an HTC device before, are they all poorly built when it comes to the camera?
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that depends on your opinion, and whether you carry your device as a pda, a phone, or a camera. ive seen some wizard and hermes pics that look great to me, but i know nothing about optics.
there are a few threads in other device's forums about removing the back cover of the phone to clean the lense and possibly remove a filter from it. if you have a dirty cover it looks like it makes a difference.
how are the pics on the vogue?
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before the shutter speed comes into effect, the titan just doesn't seem to be able to focus properly, everything is always extremely blurry, especially when trying to take shots of objects close up.
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Like most cell-phone cameras the lens on the titan is fixed-focus [wikipedia] so the focus doesn't adjust. This has been standard for pretty much any cell-phone camera including those on HTC devices. However they put an auto-focus lens on the Kaiser. Some cameras on cell-phones are becoming more sophisticated, but that doesn't do much for us stuck with the crap-cam on the titan lol.
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that depends on your opinion, and whether you carry your device as a pda, a phone, or a camera. ive seen some wizard and hermes pics that look great to me, but i know nothing about optics.
there are a few threads in other device's forums about removing the back cover of the phone to clean the lense and possibly remove a filter from it. if you have a dirty cover it looks like it makes a difference.
how are the pics on the vogue?
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been lurkin, but here is a topic I have specific experience with...
I've just recently sold my Vogue on eBay after fenagling a $99 Mogul from Sprint. I can tell you first hand that the Vogue camera SUCKS. Every picture I took, even outside, looked like I was inside a shoebox when the picture was taken. Blurry, dreary, orange-tinted and out-of-focus pictures are the norm with the Vogue.
I can't make a comparison yet, because my Mogul won't be here until tomorrow, but I will be sure to do so once it arrives.
Not too bad for a first post, eh?
Guess I gotta go put together a sig/avatar now. Great.
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Does anyone have a separate link for the Touch Camera as a CAB file, I have trouble downloading large files at work, can't go for the kitchen.
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Anyone............???
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Guess I gotta go put together a sig/avatar now. Great.
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Is that Sho'nuff? I'd say you picked a pretty sweet avatar already.
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Does anyone have a separate link for the Touch Camera as a CAB file, I have trouble downloading large files at work, can't go for the kitchen.
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I don't know if you can install the camera as a cab file - I haven't heard of anyone being able to just install the other camera drivers/files. You probably have to download the whole kitchen and choose the other camera when you cook the rom.
Yea, i wasn't just talking crap about the phone, i absolutely love the Titan, it just seems to me that with all the ways we've found to customize them and improve them, there HAS to be a way to improve the camera.. I mean 2MP is 2MP, there's only so much you can expect from the resolution, I understand its limited by the hardware in the end, but I'm getting circa '99 digital camera quality with my phone and i take a lot of photos for business AND personal reasons and carrying around an camera PLUS my phone seems like overkill. Anyone found that HTC Touch camera .cab?
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I don't know if you can install the camera as a cab file - I haven't heard of anyone being able to just install the other camera drivers/files. You probably have to download the whole kitchen and choose the other camera when you cook the rom.
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oops, just saw your reply, are you sure about this?
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oops, just saw your reply, are you sure about this?
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No, not sure at all. I've never tried it myself. But I seem to remember dcd posting a while back (around the time that the Vogue camera first got ported) that you couldn't just drop the installation files into a ROM you were already using.
the option is in his new 2.3.2 and 1.7 roms already.
Ok, i downloaded the 2.3.2 kitchen at home installed the TOUCH cam, the improvement is... well, not enough to really call it improvement.
Any other suggestions?
this is something i know about as ive had some great cell cams until i came across the mogul.
What makes this camera so bad is a mixed between three things.
1. The shutter takes way to long
This could be un-fixable as it could just be lousy hardware.
2. The camera apps takes up to much cpu processing
The mogul is constantly trying to automatically fix the exposure/ brightness/ saturation and what not, and it never seems to stick to a setting. My best example is that when in very bright light, it doenst go through a ton of different settings.
You can test this by just cutting the camera on and going outside on a bright day, the FPS of the camera will be smooth. Then go back inside or somewhere pretty dim, the framerate will stutter as it does a bunch of constant auto settings changes.
3. The exposer just plan sucks
Theres really no excuse except this being a cell cam and cell cams generally suck.
I had a a900 and sanyo m1 before my mogul, and geez, they cost half as much and half twice the quality camera wise. The m1 practically takes studio quality shots when in the proper light (it also had auto focus ).
Ive searched the registry of the mogul hundreds of times looking for whatever is slowing the camera down, but to no avail.
I think the only thing that would give it any noticeable improvement would be something that kills problem #2, all those auto settings changes. That will speed up the shutter for sure because like i posted, when in bright light, it doesnt go through those transitions and takes higher quality and faster pics.
IMO, htc shouldve left it up to me rather i wanted brightness and saturation to fix them selfs, even if you take off the auto settings in the camera menu, they are still running.
Thats my two cents, i hope someone can further investigate
just so you guys know... i cabed it up for ya.
see this thread
codyppc said:
just so you guys know... i cabed it up for ya.
see this thread
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Well then, go ahead and disregard what I said earlier about not being able to install it via a cab file.
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Well then, go ahead and disregard what I said earlier about not being able to install it via a cab file.
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no, you were right. it can't be installed via cab alone.
what i did is use a cab to put the files on the device. then i move them with resco or totalcommander to the windows folder.
see cabs can't overwrite ROM files. neither can the stock PPC file explorer, but resco and total commander can.
instructions are in that thread.
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Currently Running Jt's Awesome CM6.2 Beta, (Quick thanks to Everyone Involved in bringing this to Us)
I Have a Personal Issue and wondering if anyone feels the same or could lend me a Helping Hand in getting it fixed.
My Question, Relates to the Black and White Preview. I gotta say that as much as i tried to like it, Im just not a fan of the Black and White.
I cant seem to get good looking pictures specially in dark or low light areas. where I cant see what Im shooting.
I tried Looking at the Settings and those were only for flash/contrast/Gps/zoom.
Switching the Camera Apk from the one in EC01 Rom, as well as an ASOP one but that did not thing, well it actually just removed the camera link from the launcher and App drawer
Once again this is a Personal Preference Issue/Question, that I Figured I'd Bring up, just in case anyone felt the Same way...
Its Not meant to Bang On Anyone Related to this Awesome project
Thanks in Advance.
I'm right there with you, and with all the hope everyone has in JT, I'm sure he'll fix that as well as the camcorder issue. What I never understood (Unless I overlooked it completely), was the camera didn't have a 5MP camera option, correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, I hope Jt will get them fixed soon enough as well.
In regards to the 5MP you are correct, i didn't see an option either, which means its already set to 5, or its lower, which would explain why sometimes the pictures come out extra grainy.
Now that EDO1 came out, hopefully there some good stuff in there so that we finally see a Full CM7. But only time will tell
I bought the Evo 3D on launch day, but returned it shortly after because I needed some money due to a sudden emergency. I am now thinking about buying it again. One of the issues i had was the camera flash made little to no difference in low light pictures. I have read in a few threads that a recent update fixed an issue with shutter lag, but have found nothing in regards to the flash issue. I would just like to know if the pictures in low light situations have improved with recent OTA updates.
I know people will say "its just a cell phone, buy a camera." I understand that completely. Im just trying to weigh my options as to what my next phone will be.
The flash has always helped me, update or not. it lights up what you're taking a pic of. Its impossible for it NOT to help. So yes, the flash works. The only problem with the camera prior to update that bugged me was the green tint. That's been resolved now though. No issues with that.
There is a camera mod floating around if you root that turns off the picture compression and adds a few new features (panorama, scene modes and hdr - except I see no difference with the hdr). Pics look worlds better without the compression, mostly noticeable on a larger screen.
I just wondered, because with my EVO 4G, I never really had problems taking pictures. I had tons of problems taking pics in even moderately low light with the 3D. I changed every setting possible. I just have to check it out. Thanks for your input
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This should be in the q&a section...
- Coz i just saw it in 3D with the Shooter -
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
I know the sensation is fairly close to the rezound.. anyone think something like this may be possible?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/21/htc-sensation-ice-cream-sandwich-camera-hack/
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I know the sensation is fairly close to the rezound.. anyone think something like this may be possible?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/21/htc-sensation-ice-cream-sandwich-camera-hack/
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Almost positive Joel will be adding it to his next BAMF release.
That would be icing on the cake.
Is this the same thing or different ?
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Is this the same thing or different ?
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That is kind of the same thing I had both mods on my sensation. Both looked good but I liked the BR one better.
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I want I want :thumbup: that would be awesome to have.
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I'm more excited about this mod than anything else with this phone. And that's saying a LOT.
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This would be amazing on our phones! I too am more excited about this mod than any other. I use my camera a lot!
If it corrects for the pops and squeaks during video recording, then that would be icing on the cake. True 30fps recording would great too. I've had pretty severe frame-rate drops during recording.
I went ahead and installed the program and it appears to work. I get larger JPG images and 1080 video at higher bitrates. A few things though. The icons at the bottom are physically lower on the screen so the text on the bottom gets cut off. The button to the gallery doesn't work from video mode but appears ok from camera mode. The effects appear to work too. This is just my preliminary findings.
I'm on CleanRom 4.1 without any of the mods.
Edit: xsnapshot, I haven't noticed the pops and squeaks since the radio update in January. I didn't notice any on the test video I took, but it was only for 10 secs so I'm not sure. I'll take a longer video later and see if I can hear the pops and squeaks.
Edit2: Not sure why you linked to an Engadget post when the original post is in XDA. Here it is so you can get the app. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533238
I installed this yesterday and haven't had any issues with it. I have not used my Rezound camera enough to really notice a difference. I guess I should have taken a before and after pick to see if the file size changed much.
I didn't flash it. Opened the zip up and pushed each item to my phone.
I did take a picture of some clouds yesterday evening. File size was 2.62MB
Installed this tonight, my photo file sizes are huge now, though I've not seen a huge difference in 1080p video quality. I'll do some outdoor testing tomorrow, to see if there is a difference.
I'll try to post some results if I get around to it
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Out of curiosity... can this be undone
if you reflash a rom without it, yeah lol...
this doesn't do anything for video, btw guys..in joels rom it didn't, anyway. still recorded at around 8mbps, wouldn't ever hit above that to get even near 20...photo's seemed to work uncompressed though; they're bigger in size
I would have liked to just post this in the ViperRez thread, but I guess the rules dictate I must ask it here. I'm running ViperRez 1.03 and I absolutely love it. However, after searching the thread, and trying a couple fixes, I am still getting the issue with the camera not functioning. You go to take a picture and it seems like it fails to auto-focus and then just boots you back to your homescreen. No FC error or anything. It's seemingly random, and quite frustrating. My questions is whether or not there has been a definitive fix to this problem or not. And if not, does anyone have any recommendations for a good quality camera app to replace stock?
Disable auto focus and face detection that should help
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Fix works for camera, but not for video
Turning off auto focus and face recognition works for the camera, but the video function still closes back to the home screen. Any suggestions on how to fix that are most welcome.
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Disable auto focus and face detection that should help
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Thanks for the tip. I don't mean to be negative, however I still don't get 100% functionality from doing this. I took 5 pictures just now and on the 6th it did it. And not to mention, with auto-focus turned off, 3 of those 5 are extremely blurry. Is this bug an issue with the rom and the hardware or just a bug with the camera app? Could using a different camera app from the market help? I absolutely love this ROM but its looking like I'm going to downgrade my entire user experience and use a sense 3.6 rom. It seems like it should be such an easy fix, I'm used to much bigger hurdles on much harder phones to dev for.
I don't mean to come across as entitled, I'm just confused really. I came from the Bionic and the Droid X, both of which had locked bootloaders, yet the development for those phones seemed to go much smoother. Seems like with this phone, only sense 3.6 roms are stable. Everything else seems to be spotty at best. I'd be happy if AOSP worked correctly, I don't really NEED sense. AOSP roms have more issues than the camera.
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Thanks for the tip. I don't mean to be negative, however I still don't get 100% functionality from doing this. I took 5 pictures just now and on the 6th it did it. And not to mention, with auto-focus turned off, 3 of those 5 are extremely blurry. Is this bug an issue with the rom and the hardware or just a bug with the camera app? Could using a different camera app from the market help? I absolutely love this ROM but its looking like I'm going to downgrade my entire user experience and use a sense 3.6 rom. It seems like it should be such an easy fix, I'm used to much bigger hurdles on much harder phones to dev for.
I don't mean to come across as entitled, I'm just confused really. I came from the Bionic and the Droid X, both of which had locked bootloaders, yet the development for those phones seemed to go much smoother. Seems like with this phone, only sense 3.6 roms are stable. Everything else seems to be spotty at best. I'd be happy if AOSP worked correctly, I don't really NEED sense. AOSP roms have more issues than the camera.
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Try swapping your storage partition default on the camera app. It shouldn't be doing that, mine's been working great for months and I take a lot of pictures.
Mine started acting up as well after a few days of use. I ended up just reflashing the rom to fix it and so far so good. Next time I might just try flashing the kernel alone and see what happens. I have a feeling its a rom issue though since im on vinylfreaks kernel and not the stock one, ( runs cooler with it).
I also wish there was just a way to reflash the camera app. I might try extracting the rom zip file also next time but it happened to me out on the road and I needed the camera working so couldnt do much troubleshooting
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found this post, seems like the same problem. He used titanium backup to wipe camera app data. check the link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30912773&postcount=4
I have the Amaze 4g, and am on the last stock ROM. I'm rooted and such, but was wondering if there are any custom ROM's worth swapping to.
I'm looking for full (or essentially full) functionality, and compatibility with google apps.
Better battery life.
Possibly better control over the notifications without having to use LightFlow (a fine app, but a bit of a battery eater).
It doesn't have to do anything particularly fancy, as I mostly use it as a phone, calendar, text, gvoice, email device, and don't care too much about fancy customizing and such, though it would be nice to have the calendar (I use business calendar), emails, texts, and missed calls on the lock screen, as well as a faster way to clear the notifications once I turn on the screen.
Anyways, there you have it. I use my nexus 7 2013 for most of my other stuff, so the primary thing I'm looking for is solid day to day performance, good notifications, and battery life.
Thanks very much!
Best ROM.
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wondering if there are any custom ROM's worth swapping to
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Since it's sort of taboo for anyone here to recommends ROM's, you would well to look at the developer's forum, and the first post in each thread usually has the working/not working info.
Also, googling the web will return some good articles.
I currently am running through a bunch of ROM's myself, as stability and fully-functioning camera are essential for me. In my trials--yes, at least 10 ROM's in a week--It turns out that just about any later ICS--above 4.0--and newer JB or KK doesn't have a fully functioning camera--may be mostly functioning, but not exactly fully functioning--unless it's STOCK-based. I'm staying away from stock based if I can help it, as the ROM's are sort of busier than I would like, and would rather avoid the T-Mo upsell hotspot.
I've learned that the most recent CM11 KK rom is just about stunning, but can't use it because of my camera requirement. Some ROM's have T-Mo upsell hotspots, and some do not. I think the earliest ICS ROM's have good cameras for the most part--and some of the later JB will work if the camera doesn't have to be "perfect." Alas, I need my camera perfect, and currently have been using Energy ICS 4.0.3 as my sort of nandroid back-up base to return to in between other testings.
Thanks very much for the detailed response.
It's true, a lot of people get touchy about such subjects, it's just been so long since I've done the whole Rom swapping scene, that i had no idea where to even start. I looked through a few, but I'm away of doing what you're doing now, without a basic general approach. So many Roms are about being the newest, or the most innovative, that sometimes it's hard to sort out the ones that just plain add simple performance boosts without sacrificing other things.
I will definitely give energy a shot, and stick with that if everything seems in order on my end.
Cheers.
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Thanks very much for the detailed response..
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While several other ROM's would do for a perfectly functioning camera, the max manual ISO listed in settings was 800--the Energy I'm using gave 1250. Probably it matters not a hoot really, however that made for my decision.
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While several other ROM's would do for a perfectly functioning camera, the max manual ISO listed in settings was 800--the Energy I'm using gave 1250. Probably it matters not a hoot really, however that made for my decision.
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Yeah, that's probably an unusable iso for a camera phone. I rarely even used settings that high on my high end DSLR's, but it's always good to have a little extra headroom, just in case you're in a no-flash-allowed area. You can always do a little photoshopping later on and clean up the grit. Good enough for an online crop anyways.
I almost never use my phone or tablet cameras, but I definitely like to have them handy for a quick snap shot when needed. Now that high end point and shoots have wifi, wifi sd cards are pretty cheap now too, and are pocketable with quite good sensors, the phone only comes out for shooting if I forgot to have a camera with me (I have a dsc-rx100 ii, and an lx5, for pocket use).
I agree though, no camera on the phone would be a deal breaker for a ROM. You never know when you'll need it handy.