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Ok so here is a quick question for you. I got my new device and whats better to flash on it? DCD or the new VZW release? Let me know and I will do it?
DCD is way ahead of the curb to any software release from any company, with his software it pays in spades what you originally got from the phone out of the box. GPS, PAN, DUN, sting SMS, faster better use of CPU and RAM the list is endless. hands down DCD's ROM is the industry standard.
the added value to the phone is nothing short of outstanding.
no question. dcd.
There is absolutely no way you can dobetter than DCD's Roms.
JukEboXAuDiO said:
Ok so here is a quick question for you. I got my new device and whats better to flash on it? DCD or the new VZW release? Let me know and I will do it?
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Oh boy, don't get me started. Read my rants in the thread I started about the official release. The only think worse you could do to your phone other than putting the VZW release on it is running it over with your car after pulling it out of the back of a dump truck thats filled with molten lava, uranium, and fast flying neutrino radiation. I would rather try conjuring the spirits of my dead grand mother in hopes that she could build a better ROM than this crappy, late to the game, outdated months before it came out, non supported, lacking GPS , bullsh*t ass VZW ROM.
I guess what I am trying to say is I would go with DCD's ROM ;c)
DISCLAIMER: Before anyone gets offended, this is solely my opinion (granted taken to an extreme!). Thank you for taking the time to view.
what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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Hey, that is a good point I didn't think about. We can use this to flash if we hose our phones.
lafester said:
what i think is sad is all the people who won't flash anything but stock have suffered through all these months with 2.09 only to be rewarded with a crippled 6.1 with useless gps.
at least now you can unlock and flash to dcd knowing that you can revert to stock without bricking since you now have a stock gps rom. that is going to be the only thing this rom is good for.
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LOL
Why do people continue to insist that the phone GPS is all that and a side of fries?
Has it ever occurred to you that some people dont give a rat's behind about GPS functionality on their phone? Guess what, I dont - I have a dedicated autonomous GPS which blows the crap out of anything you will get on your 6800's "gps" function.
Its not all about GPS you know - imagine that? There is a universe where things other than GPS is important
I've also tried a few of dcd's roms - great stuff - no doubt about it. But for the apps I run, the stock ROM seems to be better - blows your mind, I know.
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I have a dedicated autonomous GPS which blows the crap out of anything you will get on your 6800's "gps" function.
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What will your gps do that my Titan won't?
I would like to know what apps run better on the stock ROM. Seriously... I want to know.
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What will your gps do that my Titan won't?
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Are you kidding me? Do you even own a dedicated GPS unit like a Garmin or Magellan?
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I would like to know what apps run better on the stock ROM. Seriously... I want to know.
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I have a number of dedicated business and medical applications that run better with the stock rom than a few custom roms I've tried. For what/how I use my 6800 for, stock edges out custom roms.
If you use your 6800 like a toy, than its possible that a dcd or similar rom offers benefits. But for my purposes, the custom roms werent cutting.
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Are you kidding me? Do you even own a dedicated GPS unit like a Garmin or Magellan?
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No, but I run Garmin and TomTom on my Titan, so what can yours do that mine can't? Anything?
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No, but I run Garmin and TomTom on my Titan, so what can yours do that mine can't? Anything?
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
Well, I asked. I have never ran one of those programs so I have no idea how they compare to stock/DCD roms.
I use my device like a "toy" as much as I use it for e-mail, Excel editing and other business type applications.
Thanks for educating us.
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
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I usually refrain from posting, but err wha? This confusingly senseless posts seems to have dragged me out of my cave...
Is FM not only used as a very low cost alternative to using Cell Phone Data Networks? It is the same network built out by MS to support their MSN Direct Watches that they are now leasing to services like Garmin for GPS Traffic... Since the tech you mentioned is simply there to give the "real" GPS device access to data, how is it any "better"?
Do they release updates to their non-PDA GPS setups faster? Otherwise, it should be the same (provided the cell phone has data coverage)...
Unless Garmin doesn't provide real time traffic at all on their PDA stuff?
I too am curious on the apps though... As DCD 3.2.6 is the fastest ROM I've ever touched on my Mogul (not saying much since I've only owned it 1.5 months and have only ran Stock + Stock latest + DCD 3.2.5 and 3.2.6). It runs everything faster and just "better".
I don't use my PDA as a "toy" so I'd recommend you not lump anyone who doesn't do exactly what you do into the kid with a toy category.
Depending on your applications needs you might be better off using the kitchen for DCD roms to be sure the stuff you need is included.
I had to add the Enterprise option to my ROM so it would sync with my exchange server (as my phone has to be able to enforce my corporate exchange policies).
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I usually refrain from posting, but err wha? This confusingly senseless posts seems to have dragged me out of my cave...
Is FM not only used as a very low cost alternative to using Cell Phone Data Networks? It is the same network built out by MS to support their MSN Direct Watches that they are now leasing to services like Garmin for GPS Traffic... Since the tech you mentioned is simply there to give the "real" GPS device access to data, how is it any "better"?
Do they release updates to their non-PDA GPS setups faster? Otherwise, it should be the same (provided the cell phone has data coverage)...
Unless Garmin doesn't provide real time traffic at all on their PDA stuff?...
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Its only a pointless post if you didnt go back far enough in the thread to see where someone was asking me about something specific.
Either the 6800 is capable of receiving live traffic updates or its not - it obviously cant get RDS so we know its not getting updates there. Can it get it over another network?
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I too am curious on the apps though... As DCD 3.2.6 is the fastest ROM I've ever touched on my Mogul (not saying much since I've only owned it 1.5 months and have only ran Stock + Stock latest + DCD 3.2.5 and 3.2.6). It runs everything faster and just "better".
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Sorry but I tried 3.2.5 and 3.2.6 and found the stock rom to be faster
I love how people try to tell me that the custom rom is faster and that I must be mistaken - arguing with someone over their experience with anything is completely pointless. If in your use dcd's rom was faster, then great - in my experience it was not and hence I went back to the stock rom (unhappily since at that time I had to give up RevA)
I don't use my PDA as a "toy" so I'd recommend you not lump anyone who doesn't do exactly what you do into the kid with a toy category.
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Point well taken - my apologies
Depending on your applications needs you might be better off using the kitchen for DCD roms to be sure the stuff you need is included.
I had to add the Enterprise option to my ROM so it would sync with my exchange server (as my phone has to be able to enforce my corporate exchange policies).
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EXACTLY! Thats what I've been saying all along - depending on your needs, the stock rom will be fine or you may need to go with a custom rom
Now we are back on topic
My TomTom software pulls real-time traffic. Live Search can even pull the traffic in real time..provided you have a data connection.
That is the real difference, not that it cannot get the traffic but the method it does and if it costs anything. I got the unlimited data so it is a non-issue to me, but with a limited data plan a dedicated GPS will win out based on that function alone.
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I have a number of dedicated business and medical applications that run better with the stock rom than a few custom roms I've tried. For what/how I use my 6800 for, stock edges out custom roms.
If you use your 6800 like a toy, than its possible that a dcd or similar rom offers benefits. But for my purposes, the custom roms werent cutting.
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What medical app runs better on a stock ROM than on a dcd ROM? Please name any specific app? Lexi-...? PocketMed? Harrison's? Even Epocrates?
If you're going to make this claim publicly, back it up with ANY specific app you've used which runs better on stock in your opinion so others can weigh in or test your claims. That's only fair when you're slandering dcd ROM's as better for "play" than "work." If you have "a number of..... apps that run better with the stock rom" surely you can name at least one, but I notice you don't.
I say, put up or shut up.
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Sorry, but those applications are just that - applications. They arent the same thing as what you can get on a dedicated unit. They are nothing more than maps - just like mapquest
But if you want something that a dedicated GPS unit can do that the 6800 cant with GPS enabled I'll tell you....
Real-Time traffic
And no, you dont have true real-time traffic on the 6800 since it isnt capable of accepting FM RDS signals
Listen, there is no sense arguing about it further - if you are happy with the GPS on the 6800 then isnt that what matters? I was not, hence, the reason I dont care about the whole GPS/custom rom thing. Enabling GPS on the 6800 was such a low priority for me since I didnt need it.
If you are happy with it and it serves your needs, then great.
If you want to continue this conversation, PM me - no sense clogging up this thread anymore
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Then why waste your time posting here then? If stock if great for you then why waste your time on a forum for making custom ROMs? I think the GPS in the Titan is just as good as any hand held. TomTom, Live Search, Google Maps and others all can receive realtime traffic through the standard data network. Also TomTom devices are Windows CE embedded devices and use bluetooth connection to a data phone for the real time traffic and other services. So for me having one unit that I can carry to do GPS, email (work and personal), Geocaching, Bible, and internet search is invaluable. Since VZW seems to want to charge for using the GPS then we have DCD. If you don't care about the internal GPS then be happy with the stock ROMs. Better or faster is a matter of opinion that is true, but if I don't have to deal with all the bloatware that comes with the stock ROM the less that will take up precious memory. For me DCD/GC has made my phone a tool that enables me to work outside of my office, it is definitely not a toy.
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Its only a pointless post if you didnt go back far enough in the thread to see where someone was asking me about something specific.
Either the 6800 is capable of receiving live traffic updates or its not - it obviously cant get RDS so we know its not getting updates there. Can it get it over another network?
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I've read every page of this thread prior to posting. I read far more than I post by a long shot. I rarely post without listening (reading) first.
I posted because FM RDS is simply a data connection. Nothing more, Nothing less. With that in mind it would mean as long as the 6800 has a data connection it should show the same exact traffic information as a standalone "real" GPS device, unless either real-time traffic isn't a provided feature or the traffic provider prioritizes one device class over another.
Sorry but I tried 3.2.5 and 3.2.6 and found the stock rom to be faster
I love how people try to tell me that the custom rom is faster and that I must be mistaken - arguing with someone over their experience with anything is completely pointless. If in your use dcd's rom was faster, then great - in my experience it was not and hence I went back to the stock rom (unhappily since at that time I had to give up RevA)
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I wasn't slamming you as being inaccurate in your usage findings. There are far too many variations of this device to be absolutely certain they don't have more than just cosmetic differences. I was just adding to the thread collective my experience of DCD being a LOT faster than stock. As I also pointed out, my experience with the Mogul doesn't run that long. I just recently moved to it from my HTC Wizard.
Although it does help if you cite specifics. Such as "App XYZ runs faster" or whatnot so someone else using it can chime in and agree or what not. Unless you wrote the app for yourself you can't assume none of us run it
I was wondering if its possible to get an fm radio wich not uses internet on the rhod100-uk using the 11 pins headset wich i use as antenna for the radio in winmo. I saw that the galaxy s has the same system and cant we just instal that app or something?
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RHOD100's have an FM radio chip? I'm not aware of any RHOD's having an FM radio chip, so if the 100 does that's probably the only one that does...
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RHOD100's have an FM radio chip? I'm not aware of any RHOD's having an FM radio chip, so if the 100 does that's probably the only one that does...
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AFAIK all RHODs have FM radios, or at least GSM ones.
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I was wondering if its possible to get an fm radio wich not uses internet on the rhod100-uk using the 11 pins headset wich i use as antenna for the radio in winmo. I saw that the galaxy s has the same system and cant we just instal that app or something?
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Arrgh didn't know anything about a radio so i think only the rhod100 phones have that. I tried FM TwoO from the market but it didn't find the hardware for the fm radio. So i don't thing it's working, because the hardware isn't addressed for android.
Hrm. I'll look up some specs, I'm pretty sure my RHOD400 doesn't have an FM radio.
If it is doable, this would be very low priority... as in, if the devs are bored with nothing else to do, this might get addressed. However, I'm not aware of any dev with a RHOD100.
If anyone does know definitively which RHOD's have FM radios that would help... thanks!
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Hrm. I'll look up some specs, I'm pretty sure my RHOD400 doesn't have an FM radio.
If it is doable, this would be very low priority... as in, if the devs are bored with nothing else to do, this might get addressed. However, I'm not aware of any dev with a RHOD100.
If anyone does know definitively which RHOD's have FM radios that would help... thanks!
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the 210s does
edit: all GSMs do
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Hrm. I'll look up some specs, I'm pretty sure my RHOD400 doesn't have an FM radio.
If it is doable, this would be very low priority... as in, if the devs are bored with nothing else to do, this might get addressed. However, I'm not aware of any dev with a RHOD100.
If anyone does know definitively which RHOD's have FM radios that would help... thanks!
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If i know how to develop things i would be happy to help with everything, only if i knew a way how. (Probably the same for all of us)
husam666 said:
the 210s does
edit: all GSMs does
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Linky? Thanks.
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here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Rhodium
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here
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I see... looks like the CDMA devices were left out to the pasture with this feature.
Should come eventually, but certainly not high on the list of things to do. Open a bug on the tracker! I don't think there is one for FM radio (but please search to make sure there isn't one.)
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Should come eventually, but certainly not high on the list of things to do. Open a bug on the tracker! I don't think there is one for FM radio (but please search to make sure there isn't one.)
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didn't get that, but anyways it says here that the fm radio is not ready yet ( i know it's outdated)
http://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Port_Status
but yeah it's not a priority, not too many people use FM radios these days
Yeah my 210 has radio too. I presumed all rhods did, but maybe not. I do hear that it didn't come unlocked in the stock build or something . . . . .but within a week of buying my rhodium I had a custom rom with fm radio app installed on it.Only works well with htc headfones though, as antenna (and mine are fairly rubbish) so id say for most bluetooth/camera would be of higher priority to get working right
Same status on Blackstone. Need kernel support.
Anyway, if CDMA and GSM Rhod's use the same wireless chipset all of them have fm radio, like the nexus one. At least, if I understood something of all my readings
Eodun said:
Same status on Blackstone. Need kernel support.
Anyway, if CDMA and GSM Rhod's use the same wireless chipset all of them have fm radio, like the nexus one. At least, if I understood something of all my readings
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Uh, they don't use the same wireless chipset. They can't as they aren't all GSM
If I understand it correctly, both Sprint's and Verizon's TP2 are actually world phones meaning they have both CDMA and GSM. I suspect the CDMA world versions lack a functioning FM radio because of this extra radio.
I think it's similar to why the Epic 4G is so radically different than the rest of the Galaxy S phones as only Sprint needs WiMAX.
I the Herman/Raphael (Touch Pro) had a similar issue regarding the FM Radio being only enabled on the GSM version and not on the CDMA version. I had a Sprint Touch Pro and there was significant uproar that the FM Radio was not physically enabled on it where it was on the GSM version. Something about it being literally crippled on the hardware end to disable it.
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Uh, they don't use the same wireless chipset. They can't as they aren't all GSM
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I was talking about the bluetooth, IIRC it's where the radio fm receiver is.
Does anyone have firsthand experience with using Google Navigation on the various Gingerbread ROMs out there?
I'd really like a CM7 or MIUI ROM but it seems like their GPS, even though it locks, doesn't seem to play well in Navigation. Thanks.
The gps problem is a hardware problem not a software problem meaning no matter how well devs make a rom the physical gps antenna is not capable of working to the same quality of the rom
Unfortunately none of the GB roms are going to match Froyo roms in terms of GPS compatibility and accuracy. Moreover, they all use the same hack so gps performance between the GB roms will be close. Unless Samsung and T-mobile release an official GB rom, there will always be little querks here and there. If you rely on GPS, I'd stick to a Froyo rom or buy an external bluetooth GPS.
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The gps problem is a hardware problem not a software problem meaning no matter how well devs make a rom the physical gps antenna is not capable of working to the same quality of the rom
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That's not what he's asking.
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Unfortunately none of the GB roms are going to match Froyo roms in terms of GPS compatibility and accuracy. Moreover, they all use the same hack so gps performance between the GB roms will be close. Unless Samsung and T-mobile release an official GB rom, there will always be little querks here and there. If you rely on GPS, I'd stick to a Froyo rom or buy an external bluetooth GPS.
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This is what I was afraid of Though I do appreciate knowing before going through the flashing process, thank you.
whatever5 said:
The gps problem is a hardware problem not a software problem meaning no matter how well devs make a rom the physical gps antenna is not capable of working to the same quality of the rom
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On GB ROMs it's a software problem.
My current Froyo ROM has near perfect GPS for Navigation, and I never applied the hardware antenna fix.
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Unfortunately none of the GB roms are going to match Froyo roms in terms of GPS compatibility and accuracy. Moreover, they all use the same hack so gps performance between the GB roms will be close. Unless Samsung and T-mobile release an official GB rom, there will always be little querks here and there. If you rely on GPS, I'd stick to a Froyo rom or buy an external bluetooth GPS.
That's not what he's asking.
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I know what he was asking and if you would read this you would understand it is a hardware problem for vibrants made before october of the year the vibrant came out and secondly if he does a hardware fix it would help him even more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878970
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On GB ROMs it's a software problem.
My current Froyo ROM has near perfect GPS for Navigation, and I never applied the hardware antenna fix.
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same goes for you, which is why you shouldn't talk as if you know everything ..... the hardware fix is the only solution so far if your on GB, I'm on GB and have tried every rom that say gps fixed and if you consider 220 to 40 meters accurate (721 ft to 131ft) then go for it otherwise zip it!! IF THE OP DOES GET A SATISFYING GPS ON GB THAT MEANS HIS VIBRANT WAS MADE AFTER OCTOBER!!
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same goes for you, which is why you shouldn't talk as if you know everything ..... the hardware fix is the only solution so far if your on GB, I'm on GB and have tried every rom that say gps fixed and if you consider 220 to 40 meters accurate (721 ft to 131ft) then go for it otherwise zip it!! IF THE OP DOES GET A SATISFYING GPS ON GB THAT MEANS HIS VIBRANT WAS MADE AFTER OCTOBER!!
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The hardware fix and the GB GPS issues are independent of each other. It's true that the hardware fix will increase your SNR for your satellite signals across all ROMs, but the underlying issue with GB is that the agspd settings are off because of a lack of drivers, and thus adjusting your antenna is not a true "fix" for any GB ROM.
I misunderstood your original post since it wasn't answering my question. If you had said "I'm on GB and have tried every rom that say gps fixed and if you consider 220 to 40 meters accurate (721 ft to 131ft)" to begin with, then I would have understood. I appreciate it though.
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The hardware fix and the GB GPS issues are independent of each other. It's true that the hardware fix will increase your SNR for your satellite signals across all ROMs, but the underlying issue with GB is that the agspd settings are off because of a lack of drivers, and thus adjusting your antenna is not a true "fix" for any GB ROM.
I misunderstood your original post since it wasn't answering my question. If you had said "I'm on GB and have tried every rom that say gps fixed and if you consider 220 to 40 meters accurate (721 ft to 131ft)" to begin with, then I would have understood. I appreciate it though.
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It only doesnt work for me because according to another thread i read vibrants made before october 2010 have junk gps antennaes that require the fix but your right i should've explained what i meant better and this means your vibrant is more capable than mine so those gb roms that say gps fixed may work for you
Miui energy revamped says they have gps fixed. + miui is a pretty neat rom to try out if you ever decide to go to GB, best of luck
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It only doesnt work for me because according to another thread i read vibrants made before october 2010 have junk gps antennaes that require the fix but your right i should've explained what i meant better and this means your vibrant is more capable than mine so those gb roms that say gps fixed may work for you
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Mine is a pre October 2010 Vibrant too, so I think given your experiences I will be more cautious. Thanks though, that information helps a lot.
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Mine is a pre October 2010 Vibrant too, so I think given your experiences I will be more cautious. Thanks though, that information helps a lot.
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isn't it funny how that worked out, I bought my vibrant sooner thinking the newer vibrants were made better because they'd have to undergo more testing before being completely mass produced but instead the later vibrants had revisions on the gps antennae made
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I know what he was asking and if you would read this you would understand it is a hardware problem for vibrants made before october of the year the vibrant came out and secondly if he does a hardware fix it would help him even more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878970
same goes for you, which is why you shouldn't talk as if you know everything ..... the hardware fix is the only solution so far if your on GB, I'm on GB and have tried every rom that say gps fixed and if you consider 220 to 40 meters accurate (721 ft to 131ft) then go for it otherwise zip it!! IF THE OP DOES GET A SATISFYING GPS ON GB THAT MEANS HIS VIBRANT WAS MADE AFTER OCTOBER!!
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I got a September vibrant and can get locks up too 16ft in accuracy with GB...just sometimes it's hard to get a lock.
Im using trigger redux with the glitch kernal.
I live at 409 *streetname*
It says im at 407 *same streetname*
Thats a better signal than when I was on froyo, it always said I was a block down the road, on a different street.
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Im using trigger redux with the glitch kernal.
I live at 409 *streetname*
It says im at 407 *same streetname*
Thats a better signal than when I was on froyo, it always said I was a block down the road, on a different street.
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How is it in Google Navigation?
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On GB ROMs it's a software problem.
My current Froyo ROM has near perfect GPS for Navigation, and I never applied the hardware antenna fix.
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+1 here, my GPS is spot on using Google Maps using Bi-winning V3
BTW pre-October 2010 date on mine
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How is it in Google Navigation?
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Spot on. Thats where I got the only one house off result from.
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Sgsii hybrid v3 gb 2.3.4
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No signal drops in Google Navigation?
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Spot on. Thats where I got the only one house off result from.
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Awesome, thanks.
anyone know where a guy could get the htc fm radio app???
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anyone know where a guy could get the htc fm radio app???
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I tried installing the FM Radio app from my original Dinc, and it installed just fine, opened, showed the radio screen, and then crashed, and won't go any further than that now. Could be because that ROM was de-odexed, but I doubt it.
Have you tried pulling it from the Dinc 2 or Evo 4G Shift? I'm going to try to pull it from a HTC One S ROM if I can find one, since it's so similar to the Dinc 4G.
IceDragon59 said:
I tried installing the FM Radio app from my original Dinc, and it installed just fine, opened, showed the radio screen, and then crashed, and won't go any further than that now. Could be because that ROM was de-odexed, but I doubt it.
Have you tried pulling it from the Dinc 2 or Evo 4G Shift? I'm going to try to pull it from a HTC One S ROM if I can find one, since it's so similar to the Dinc 4G.
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IC TAZZ rom is a one s rom but a custom rom, it was ported to the inc2
they are all system apps, thats the problem
maybe this phone doesn't have the hardware to run it
I tested FM radio and it does not work.
blazingwolf said:
I tested FM radio and it does not work.
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The FM Radio on the HTC One S ROM I found didn't work, either.
Makes me wonder if the hardware is in place to run something like this. It uses your headset as an antenna which would seem like some hardware would need to be implemented and with the phone not having the software as stock just makes me wonder.
*Madmoose* said:
Makes me wonder if the hardware is in place to run something like this. It uses your headset as an antenna which would seem like some hardware would need to be implemented and with the phone not having the software as stock just makes me wonder.
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Quite the possibility. I don't ever listen to the radio, but I noticed it was missing when I got the phone.
anyone try that spirit fm app, looks like it's for rooted phones, but is supposed to work on stock.
IceDragon59 said:
Quite the possibility. I don't ever listen to the radio, but I noticed it was missing when I got the phone.
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i used it all the time on the inc2, i miss it now
*Madmoose* said:
Makes me wonder if the hardware is in place to run something like this. It uses your headset as an antenna which would seem like some hardware would need to be implemented and with the phone not having the software as stock just makes me wonder.
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As far as I can tell this is correct.
blazingwolf said:
As far as I can tell this is correct.
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i don't know, i think nits rom has fm radio,i think, so the hardware must be there.it's based on stock
Aldo101t said:
i don't know, i think nits rom has fm radio,i think, so the hardware must be there.it's based on stock
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It was there because he added it. It's one of the ways that I tested FM radio.
However, if you want to mess with it have at it.
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It was there because he added it. It's one of the ways that I tested FM radio.
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ok, you mean the app didn't work on nits rom, well then i'd say the hardware is not there then
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It was there because he added it. It's one of the ways that I tested FM radio.
However, if you want to mess with it have at it.
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i can't i'm still locked up
So, anyone have any luck getting fm radio to work? It sounds like the hardware isn't there, but I'm still holding out hope.
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There is definitely hardware for FM radio. Whether there is any software that can utilize it is still unknown (at least to me).
I don't have root yet but when I do that's one of my goals - to get the FM tuner working.
xdadevelopers-user said:
There is definitely hardware for FM radio. Whether there is any software that can utilize it is still unknown (at least to me).
I don't have root yet but when I do that's one of my goals - to get the FM tuner working.
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Yes, the chip is capable of FM. However, everything else seems to be missing. As noted in this thread I tried several things to get it working and it didn't.
Aldo101t said:
anyone try that spirit fm app, looks like it's for rooted phones, but is supposed to work on stock.
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Spirit Free is here: http://d-h.st/P5Y .
I've had debug logs from two un-rooted users, but nobody has ever sent one from a rooted device, and I'd be interested to see. My sales stats actually show 6 people with this phone, but it seems many people don't even get in touch with me if it doesn't work. I may disable this device in Play and see if anyone notices.
Use Menu-> Test-> Email-> Logs and after 20 seconds or so press Send.
AFAICT, the FM/Bt/WiFi combo chip is the same WCN3660 on the AT&T OneX / OneXL LTE/ OneS / Evo 4G LTE and some new Motorolas.
AFAIK, nobody knows if the FM antenna pin(s) are connected to the wired headset circuitry for use as the FM antenna. If so, then software may be able to enable FM.
BUT, like the new Motorola's (Razr HD, M ?) it appears that the firmware/ROM is not set up to enable FM, perhaps via some config option that Qualcomm provides.
So I think a custom kernel and/or ROM will be required to even see if FM is hardware possible.
Or, with SU/root we may get lucky and be able to load the radio-iris loadable kernel driver and get it working. Getting it loaded at least is the main thing needed to get further info.
mikereidis said:
Spirit Free is here: http://d-h.st/P5Y .
I've had debug logs from two un-rooted users, but nobody has ever sent one from a rooted device, and I'd be interested to see. My sales stats actually show 6 people with this phone, but it seems many people don't even get in touch with me if it doesn't work. I may disable this device in Play and see if anyone notices.
Use Menu-> Test-> Email-> Logs and after 20 seconds or so press Send.
AFAICT, the FM/Bt/WiFi combo chip is the same WCN3660 on the AT&T OneX / OneXL LTE/ OneS / Evo 4G LTE and some new Motorolas.
AFAIK, nobody knows if the FM antenna pin(s) are connected to the wired headset circuitry for use as the FM antenna. If so, then software may be able to enable FM.
BUT, like the new Motorola's (Razr HD, M ?) it appears that the firmware/ROM is not set up to enable FM, perhaps via some config option that Qualcomm provides.
So I think a custom kernel and/or ROM will be required to even see if FM is hardware possible.
Or, with SU/root we may get lucky and be able to load the radio-iris loadable kernel driver and get it working. Getting it loaded at least is the main thing needed to get further info.
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Log sent. No luck on anything working though. There is no sound of static even so I can't tell if it is even trying. I have also tried other FM apps from HTC with no luck. I have no idea how to tell if the antenna pins are connected though I would be happy to try if told how.
Let me know if the logs help.
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Log sent. No luck on anything working though. There is no sound of static even so I can't tell if it is even trying. I have also tried other FM apps from HTC with no luck. I have no idea how to tell if the antenna pins are connected though I would be happy to try if told how.
Let me know if the logs help.
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Thanks ! Nice to finally see with SU.
With SU your radio-iris-transport FM driver is successfully loaded.
Spirit detect and uses the HTC OEM Proprietary FM API. The problem there is that RSSI values are 0 or -128, a bad sign.
But there is still hope with the low level API.
Set Menu-> Settings-> FM API to "Low Level" and restart Spirit.
For audio, the default setting (Auto) of Audio-> Method is translated to "HTC", which is for stock HTC devices. That seems to be getting translated to the proper audio ALSA control settings. But if you lack any audio, setting Audio-> Method to "HTC OneX ALSA" or even "HTC OneX QCom" might help.
any hope of getting FM radio support on roms (I'm mainly using cyanogenmod, usually sportsstar's). I've tried the port of the apk for the fm radio (wouldn't run) and some spirit radio apk (loud static all channels). Thanks.
I'm using spirit and it works fine. You do need to have a headset plugged in though for an antenna
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yeah. ok thanks, I guess I will try again.
your welcome
reebokhcfr said:
yeah. ok thanks, I guess I will try again.
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Are you using the feb 3rd beta version of spirit?
The stock FM radio is probably going to need to be rebuilt to make it work. Or there is just some strange file that is missing or not configured right.
chevycowboyusa said:
Are you using the feb 3rd beta version of spirit?
The stock FM radio is probably going to need to be rebuilt to make it work. Or there is just some strange file that is missing or not configured right.
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Sense Apps do not work on AOSP roms. And can't be made to work...
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dcacklam said:
Sense Apps do not work on AOSP roms. And can't be made to work...
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Hi Dave! Thanks for the response
I thought there was an FM radio app in the CM Builds??
There are people using Spirit on CM10 (other devices) and I have got Spirit working on Sense 4 (even though the built in one doesn't work)
I have tried my darndest to get Spirit radio to work. All I get is white noise.
What am I missing or not configured? I did search the site, but wasn't able to
find the answer.
Thanks.
mgp53 said:
I have tried my darndest to get Spirit radio to work. All I get is white noise.
What am I missing or not configured? I did search the site, but wasn't able to
find the answer.
Thanks.
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I couldn't get it to work either on the PacMan rom
I just flashed SpeedRom 9.0 Beta 1 and the FM Radio app works because SpeedROM is still a sense based ROM but looks like JellyBean.
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chevycowboyusa said:
I'm using spirit and it works fine. You do need to have a headset plugged in though for an antenna
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I have used viper from version 1.6.6, 1.7.0.1 and 1.7.0.2, the fm radio never worked. even when i used spirit FM it only just make noise as if no station is working.
kodunmit said:
I have used viper from version 1.6.6, 1.7.0.1 and 1.7.0.2, the fm radio never worked. even when i used spirit FM it only just make noise as if no station is working.
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That's strange. Where are you located?
I'm in California.
Not much proof, but this is it working.
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chevycowboyusa said:
That's strange. Where are you located?
I'm in California.
Not much proof, but this is it working.
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I have the same issue with Sportsstar's CM10.1. Sprit FM just gives me static (though I can occasionally hear the slightest bit of an actual station). I think I read in his thread that radio firmware is missing from CM10.1. Is that something one can flash after the fact?
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JimDandy68 said:
I have the same issue with Sportsstar's CM10.1. Sprit FM just gives me static (though I can occasionally hear the slightest bit of an actual station). I think I read in his thread that radio firmware is missing from CM10.1. Is that something one can flash after the fact?
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There is a difference Between the Radio firmware for the hardware (flashed thru hboot) and possibly radio drivers in the ROM.
You can flash the ICS Radio update, link in my Viper thread or ARHD thread, that will update you to the most recent radio "Firmware"
You do need to have an antenna (wired headset) and you have to manually tune the radio station.
I'll test it on CM10.1 later this weekend and I'll let you know what I can figure out!
chevycowboyusa said:
There is a difference Between the Radio firmware for the hardware (flashed thru hboot) and possibly radio drivers in the ROM.
You can flash the ICS Radio update, link in my Viper thread or ARHD thread, that will update you to the most recent radio "Firmware"
You do need to have an antenna (wired headset) and you have to manually tune the radio station.
I'll test it on CM10.1 later this weekend and I'll let you know what I can figure out!
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Thanks, Chevy
I can't find the reference I was talking about, but here's a reference to missing drivers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010901
And if this is what you're talking about for a radio update - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42317972&highlight=radio+update#post42317972 - that matches my current baseband version.
FM radio works on ICS ROMs, like ARHD and SpeedRom, I know. I also know I need a headset attached - only way it ever worked. I've seen other threads about Spirit FM just producing static, so I don't know if it's that app and this device. Anyway, thanks for whatever you can figure out. My thought was that flashing anything ICS on JB wouldn't work, but I don't know.
JimDandy68 said:
Thanks, Chevy
I can't find the reference I was talking about, but here's a reference to missing drivers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010901
And if this is what you're talking about for a radio update - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42317972&highlight=radio+update#post42317972 - that matches my current baseband version.
FM radio works on ICS ROMs, like ARHD and SpeedRom, I know. I also know I need a headset attached - only way it ever worked. I've seen other threads about Spirit FM just producing static, so I don't know if it's that app and this device. Anyway, thanks for whatever you can figure out. My thought was that flashing anything ICS on JB wouldn't work, but I don't know.
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Just want to ask again on this thread, has anyone ever gotten Spirit FM or another FM radio apk to work on a JB ROM (non-sense-based)? Chevy mentioned the Spirit FM 3rd beta, but not sure whether he was talking about having it work on a JB ROM or on Viper. ICS ROMs mostly have the stock radio app working, so not an issue there.
Thanks.
There is code in the CM base sources allowing for radio apps like spirit FM, now whether the devs working on it here have enabled it or gone through the task of debugging to ensure it works is a different story. Tytung has it working well in his CM ROMs for the HD2. I purchased it (spirit) to use on his ROMs so I do know it can work with CM if the developer chooses to. Frankly, for me this capability isn't as important as resolving the other outstanding issues which are keeping JellyBean from being fully functional and truly stable on our devices.
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There is code in the CM base sources allowing for radio apps like spirit FM, now whether the devs working on it here have enabled it or gone through the task of debugging to ensure it works is a different story. Tytung has it working well in his CM ROMs for the HD2. I purchased it (spirit) to use on his ROMs so I do know it can work with CM if the developer chooses to. Frankly, for me this capability isn't as important as resolving the other outstanding issues which are keeping JellyBean from being fully functional and truly stable on our devices.
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Yeah, I'm really just trying to find out if anyone has gotten something working on the Amaze, not any other device. For me, the showstoppers on CM10.1 were uncontrolled in-call volume (evidently working in Evervolv), audio drop-outs when listening to music, and lack of FM radio. Otherwise, it seemed really solid. I'm kinda tired of laggy ICS ROMS, but everything works.
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Yeah, I'm really just trying to find out if anyone has gotten something working on the Amaze, not any other device. For me, the showstoppers on CM10.1 were uncontrolled in-call volume (evidently working in Evervolv), audio drop-outs when listening to music, and lack of FM radio. Otherwise, it seemed really solid. I'm kinda tired of laggy ICS ROMS, but everything works.
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I know what you're talking about. I think many here, myself included, wish that development was further along. Frankly, I find it sad and ironic that my old HD2, which was a Windows phone, has had fully functional usable stable Jellybean ROMs for a well over a year and it never had any sources released to develop from.
The sad truth is that the Amaze is a great device that wasn't marketed well, so few units were sold. Too few at least for it to have developed a devoted loyal following. If you follow the threads you see that there was never a large volume of development for it and that most of the early adopters have long since moved on to other devices. I'm just glad that we're now experiencing a second wave with new folks stepping up and trying.
I'm optimistic that the issues currently afflicting these builds can be resolved and that our Amazes will get a new lease on life. We just need to have a bit more patience, they're getting closer to nailing it. Once one gets it right the others will learn and use in their development. Then we'll have all kinds of jellybean and KitKat flavors to choose from.
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I'm optimistic that the issues currently afflicting these builds can be resolved and that our Amazes will get a new lease on life. We just need to have a bit more patience, they're getting closer to nailing it. Once one gets it right the others will learn and use in their development. Then we'll have all kinds of jellybean and KitKat flavors to choose from.
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Hope your optimism proves right. It's amazing (no pun intended) that anyone spends there time doing this kind of dev work at all. Pretty sure I'll never buy another HTC device, too.
JimDandy68 said:
Hope your optimism proves right. It's amazing (no pun intended) that anyone spends there time doing this kind of dev work at all. Pretty sure I'll never buy another HTC device, too.
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I wouldn't be so down on HTC. They may not have been the most supportive manufacturer when it comes to outside development, but they've also produced some of the most groundbreaking innovative products. They're in financial trouble now, as their market share has eroded, and haven't had a breakout device in some time. They realize this and have begun making incremental improvements within the development community in an attempt to improve it's perception. The thing is who are you going to jump ship to? Samsung is already undermining android by developing Its own market place for apps that can only run on their devices and has announced It's developing its own proprietary OS. Since they're the biggest player in this device market, they could easily splinter Android and force other manufacturers to do the same to compete.
The point is, if there's one thing I've learned from my 50 years on this planet is to never say never about anything.
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The point is, if there's one thing I've learned from my 50 years on this planet is to never say never about anything.
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Point taken. I'm 45 and evidently haven't learned anything. :cyclops:
Time to go back to a landline.