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Looks like WM 6.1 has added a new "feature" since WM 6.
WM 6.1 must have a database of mail servers and their mail server settings (although incomplete). When configuring a new email account which WM 6.1 has settings for (I used gmail), right after entering the email address and password, it says...
"Auto Setup found settings for:
<account name>
To complete setup and download e-mail, click Next."
Next is your only option, and it skips past the screen where you'd normally choose the account type (IMAP4 or POP3). I haven't found a way to change that value after the account's been created.
This is a problem if you use gmail, since they offer both POP3 and IMAP4 servers, but WM 6.1 defaults to POP3 only.
Anyone can test this, you can "make up" a email address/password.
Lame huh? Anyone know of a workaround or will this need to be "cooked" out?
thats in 6.0 too, i set up my gmail account that way the day i got my phone back in june, lol
in 6.0 theres a checkbox when you put your address in, if you uncheck the box it wont try to automatically get settings
defaultdotxbe said:
thats in 6.0 too, i set up my gmail account that way the day i got my phone back in june, lol
in 6.0 theres a checkbox when you put your address in, if you uncheck the box it wont try to automatically get settings
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Correctomundo.... that feature only works for a very few select email providers.
Are you guys using WM 6.1?
I'm aware of the check box you're talking about, but in no2chem's WM 6.1 rom the box doesn't show until the 2nd account config screen (and doesn't show at all if you start with a [email protected] address).
It's trying to be too damn smart.
Looks like no2chem is on the case!
From his realase notes for nueROM 2.0 build 5024:
Known issues:
GMAIL users are forced to use POP3 Email due to auto-detection
I haven't seen it mentioned if the issue is caused by WM 6.1 or something else in his nueROM 2.0. I hope I guessed right by not posting this in his nueROM 2.0 thread...
Nice to know I'm not hallucinating.
EDIT: apparently this issue's present in all WM 6.1 roms.
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Are you guys using WM 6.1?
I'm aware of the check box you're talking about, but in no2chem's WM 6.1 rom the box doesn't show until the 2nd account config screen (and doesn't show at all if you start with a [email protected] address).
It's trying to be too damn smart.
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that sucks, guess ill have to hold off on 6.1 until it gets sorted
but why would they put it after you enter the address? it doesnt make sense to have to option to not use auto config after it autoconfigs, lol, is this an issue in the itself or in the 6.1 version of pocket outlook? hopefully its a result of the rom cooking, but i wouldnt put it past MS to do something dumb like that either, lol
just for clarity heres where it is in 6.0, before you even enter the email address
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just for clarity heres where it is in 6.0, before you even enter the email address
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Yep, that's 6.0.
In 6.1 the first account config page asks for your email address and password only. If it doesn't recognize your email domain the next page will give you the option to have it "automatically" grab the settings, just like with 6.0. You get screwed if it recognizes your email's domain (so far only gmail.com that I've found), and you don't get the option to configure the server type yourself. Pretty dumb idea by MS, at least for us.
In the thread I linked to in my edit above, no2chem mentions the auto settings should be editable, but that's beyond me at this point. That thread also mentions that this WM 6.1 build is based on a beta from MS, so maybe a release version will make things better.
I just noticed gmail.com doesn't say their problem still exists with HTML emails + IMAP + WM. Are they working now?
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I just noticed gmail.com doesn't say their problem still exists with HTML emails + IMAP + WM. Are they working now?
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yeah, in the 3.16 rom from sprint IMAP is working fine
now if gmail would just start using push-imap...
EDIT: i was just looking at my email settings and once an account is created you can still change email address and servers, just not the type of account (pop3, imap, exchange, etc) so if you put anything in the email so it wont automatically set it up you shoudl be able to change it to gmail afterward
in the account picker go to menu, then options, then select your account and you can go through an edit all the settings (in 6.0 anyway)
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yeah, in the 3.16 rom from sprint IMAP is working fine
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Gmail IMAP HTML emails are also working great in no2chem's WM 6.1 rom.
defaultdotxbe said:
EDIT: i was just looking at my email settings and once an account is created you can still change email address and servers, just not the type of account (pop3, imap, exchange, etc) so if you put anything in the email so it wont automatically set it up you shoudl be able to change it to gmail afterward
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Sure, rub it in. That works in 6.1 too. You make the third person that was able to figure that out before I did . Thanks for the help!
Hey guys,
First, I want to apologize because I"m about to ask dumb questions. I've spent some time wandering around reading threads and FAQs trying to understand all this, but I'm still fairly lost.
Before i begin, some basic info:
I'm on Sprint, currently on ROM 2.09.651.3
I use ActiveSync to connect to my company's Outlook server to get my work email, calendar, and tasks. However, I sync with my home PC for files and favorites.
I'd like to update to the most recent ROM as i'd like to get the faster web speeds, GPS, and SprintTV if possible.
The only thing I really don't want to lose are my contacts, which I don't have syncing anywhere currently. These are obviously not work contacts...and I don't have Outloook on my home computer....so what are my choices as to how I can backup my contacts? Preferably, a free application.
Lastly, am I understanding correctly that I can download the file from this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402887
and simply follow the instructions on this page:
http://www.htc.com/uploadedFiles/Co...es/Mogule_Detailed_RUU Instructions_R1 _2.pdf
And that's it?
Sorry for the dumb questions. I'm pretty good with technology, but I've never done any updating or tweaking with my phone. Aside from the HTC Home app, it's mostly stock. Any suggestions and help will be appreciated.
I just asked this question last week. What I discovered are 12 different answers from 12 different people. SO I will just tell you what I found.
SPB backup or Resco Backup. Those cost money tho. I prefer the free options.
I just discovered Dashwire. It's an online site that does the backup for your phone. It only does contacts, messages and conversations, call history, media (video and picture), bookmarks, ringtones, voicemail (but not on Sprint), speeddials, and has some social networking involved (including syncing with Twitter).
It seems to have worked great for me. I haven't noticed anything missing since my upgrade.
It doesn't do calendars, but I use the free version of Goosync for that.
if all you want are the contacts, "pim" in the my device folder contains the contact info. To verify, rename, reset, and see if your contacts are still there. As I recall you cant overwrite directly, you need to rename the original and then copy the old file to that location after the wipe.
Sounds like you have the rest figured out already.
Personally I run exchange for everything important, a UC file for my programs, and dont care about texts/etc. I did save my SPB P+ config, which is one of like 5 things I have to do manually on a hard reset (today screen plugins, buttons, contacts on phone suit, and exchange settings are the others.)
Hey Fellows,
SendReceiveAll is just a small program that i created for my own use. In default Windows Mobile client, if you have multiple email accounts and they are set to manual download, like it is with me, While checking mail you need to go to each account and click send and receive. This is a bit tedious.
SO this program, which is a small, no-gui, .net cf app does so. It calls send and receive for all outlook email accounts. This way you can tap it once and then wait for your emails to finish loading at their own pace.
Its a very simple start and i haven't done anything profound with it. Its just an idea that clicked me.
Suggestions and Ideas are welcome from all of you
Thanks!
UPDATE : Here is the link to cab file for this utility. I haven't tested it so cant say about how reliable it is. Thanks to post&telecommunications to make and post it
SendRecieveAll v.1 Cab File
PS: It seems that this doesn't works if you have multiple IMAP accounts. The problem I think happens because IMAP accounts cannot be updated in "Background, Asynchronously". So If thats the case with you, I am sorry, I don't have any solutions right now. I will see if anything can be done about it
Thanks. Works like a charm
Glad to know that you found it useful
Yeah, I've found it a bit tricky to check all my accounts.
For further development, is it possible that you can implement a progressbar that shows, when an account is ready and maybe a dialog that shows how many emails are downloaded per account?
Yeah, I was also having these things in my mind right at the time of developing this version and i am working on these. Actually the method i use to call the sync facility of messaging application is not synchronous , ie. my app doesnt get to know when did the messaging app finished. It gets control back immediately. So i'll have to find a better way to do that. Thanks for the suggestion
Manilla sync data
Thanks for the progy! It would be nice to have this integrate with the Manila "Sync Data" button under settings, Currently this only works for syncing Activesync, but the description does say "and Internet data"
Is any software for Send only?
Is any application for Pocket Outlook, when I want only Send (not Send and Receive)?
Nice application - some suggestions
Great little application! I’ve been wanting something like this for ages – I didn’t want to set my mail accounts to send and receive every 10 or 30 minutes, I wanted them to sync when I picked up the phone and pressed a button – now I can do it without going to my gmail, yahoo, hotmail and Exchange Server pages separately!
As others have pointed out – having something that said mail account 1 of 4 synchronising would be good for progress – at the moment I don’t know whether I’ve got no emails or it hasn’t worked correctly.
If you are going to end up adding options to this, then auto disconnecting the data connection when all mail boxes are synchronised would save me another button press!
Making it work directly from send/receive in Manila is a great suggestion from ‘anothersmith’ – in the mean time I can’t get it to assign to the programs tab in Manila or via Hbutton – it doesn’t pick it up…..?
Good work.
Splelling errror!!
The reason I'm struggling to get the Hbutton to assign via the registry is that the .exe file is spelt incorrectly!
You've got it as SendRecieveAll.exe
Hbutton thread that shows registy values if anyone wants it for now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306794&page=2
Usefull application...thanks lot..
By the way ...i got problem coz im use diferent network (3g ,home and wifi)..i should sett the smtp manually before clickthis
great effort
Hi Friends,
Sorry for delay in response i was out of town Thanks for all the great responses. So i guess these are the changes i should try to implement :
1. Visual Notification of the progress and optional data disconnection at the end.
2. Integration with Manilla Sync.
3. Option to send only.
@brandall: If you add a sound to "New Email" notification in Start>Settings>Sounds and Notifications applet, you will recieve a standard notification from the messaging app about the newly recieved emails automatically. I get it on my phone.
@all: Since i only have a HTC Gene at my disposal, i cannot experiment with TouchFlo 3D features. I guess you people are talking about the sync button on tf3d, right? So can anybody tell me the integration procedure for touchflo 3d, i mean the registry keys and all.
I have 3 IMAP accounts, but it only sends/receive the last one
By the way, your app is a great idea!
I have exactly the same. 6 IMAP and it sends / receives only the last one.
Idea is great. Please correct the problem.
Oh, i didn't test it on imap, and i just returned from a long tour. I will look into it asap.
I think that the solution is to make the application aware of the synchronization status on outlook, which apparently can't send and receive from different IMAP accounts at the same time..
But it's only a personal hypothesis since I don't have the foggiest idea of how to program.
it will be greate to make gui with send/recive all... sen all ... recive alll
Hi Great app
one question, can run background? or hiden whith screen off?
i use another app to trigger the send/recieve mail by sms.
thanks
Hey Krazy - any update on this?
The original version I have still gets used every day for me!
great work however I removed .net due to memory restrictions on my xv6700 is there anyway to get the source so we can try to get this recompiled in c that way all devices could use your wonderful program. thank u again for listening
thank you for this wonderful piece of work.
In case you missed the subject: ROOT REQUIRED.
Also, this issue only affects phones that are running Android 2.x *and* version 1.3 of the official Facebook app. Also, it only affects things synchronized by the Facebook app itself -- if you've used syncmypics, those pics are actually attached to your google account now, "manually".
As lots of you already know, android 2.x has a new contacts API, that allows sync providers (such as Facebook) restrict their information to just the system contacts app (and packages sharing the same uid). Facebook, in their infinite (lack of...) wisdom, has decided to mark their info as restricted, meaning that contact pics don't show up in, say, Dialer One, or any non-stock messaging or contacts widget. I'm reading in a bunch of places that this functionality was actually added at the behest of Facebook.
This. Is annoying.
Here's an incomplete list of common apps missing facebook pictures, that you would usually expect to have them:
Dialer One
SMS Popup
Google Voice
LauncherPro widgets
Pure Messenger Widget
This is particularly annoying, because there's not even a "permission" (so far as I'm aware) that you can grant apps to allow them access to "restricted" contacts. You just simply have to be running at uid 10000 (aka "app_0"). Individual apps can apparently get around this by ignoring the nice Android contact content provider API's and querying the database directly, but only a handful (such as Handcent and chompSMS) seem to do this.
There are a few ways around this globally (i.e. not on a per-app basis). Basically, you have three potential approaches:
Change the Facebook app to not mark it as restricted.
Change the API to ignore the silly "is_restricted" flag when enumerating contacts.
Change the restricted flag in the database itself.
Modifying the Facebook app ourselves is probably illegal, as it involves decompiling the facebook app, and I really don't want to tangle with their lawyers. We can hope that they release a new version without the stupid restriction, though.
We could change the API -- Android is, after all, open source. However, that means each ROM would have to include the modified library files to ignore the restriction. Also, there might be a time when you actually *do* want to keep some things restricted, so I'm not keen on simply removing the functionality. I just want to have the Facebook data unrestricted.
So, of course, I took option 3: Change it in the database. I now have face contact pics in Dialer One, as well as all of my 3rd-party applications, without needing to make any ROM changes, or even any application config changes. To make sure it *stays* that way when new content is added/updated, I added a couple triggers to the database to re-unrestrict it every time more facebook data is added or changed. In a single command, through adb. Here it is (MAKE BACKUPS FIRST):
Code:
adb shell sqlite3 /data/data/com.android.providers.contacts/databases/contacts2.db "CREATE TRIGGER unrestrict_new_data AFTER INSERT ON raw_contacts BEGIN UPDATE raw_contacts SET is_restricted=0 WHERE _id=NEW._id and NEW.is_restricted!=0 and NEW.account_type in ('com.facebook.auth.login'); END; CREATE TRIGGER unrestrict_updated_data AFTER UPDATE OF is_restricted ON raw_contacts BEGIN UPDATE raw_contacts SET is_restricted=0 WHERE _id=NEW._id and NEW.is_restricted!=0 and NEW.account_type in ('com.facebook.auth.login'); END; UPDATE raw_contacts SET is_restricted=0 WHERE is_restricted!=0 AND account_type in ('com.facebook.auth.login');"
Yeah, it's long. For the curious, I'll dissect the above command a little. Basically, it does three things: make an INSERT trigger, make an UPDATE trigger, and set everything that's already there to be unrestricted.
The INSERT trigger happens whenever a sync provider adds a new contact. This trigger will notice if it's a facebook contact trying to make a restricted contact (it leaves non-facebook ones alone), and overrides the is_restricted" flag, leaving it unrestricted.
The UPDATE trigger does the same thing, but it's triggered when a facebook contact has its is_restricted" flag changed back to restricted. It leaves all other changes alone.
The update itself takes all of your facebook contacts, and changes the "is_restricted" flag to unrestricted.
FYI, the "raw_contacts" table is where the sync providers actually store their data, including thumbnails. Yes, they're directly in the DB itself. There's a separate "contacts" table that's generated from the "raw_contacts" table, which is the list of things that are actually listed in your contacts application -- the "raw_contacts" table contains all the contacts you join together to create the ones in your normal list.
If, in the future, you want to override the "is_restricted" flag of other contact sync providers, just add it to the list in parens, comma-separated, that currently only says 'com.facebook.auth.login'.
Cheers!
Edited to add:
Handcent and chompSMS both seem to get the facebook pics just fine. Updated info above.
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Going to try this now
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Nice work thx
This is good infos.
Too bad I'm at work and dont have adb access. Whats the steps for applying this thru terminal emulator?
My phone shows facebook photos in my dialer and handcent. Always has.
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johnnyboy1549 said:
My phone shows facebook photos in my dialer and handcent. Always has.
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This means you're either using older facebook apps, or you're using Android 1.6 still. This only affects newer FB apps and Android 2.0+.
Facebook pics show up in chompsms just fine for me.
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MJL99 said:
This is good infos.
Too bad I'm at work and dont have adb access. Whats the steps for applying this thru terminal emulator?
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Just drop the "adb shell" from the beginning. Make sure you're root, of course.
truelove79 said:
Facebook pics show up in chompsms just fine for me.
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Yes, if you're using Android 1.6, or an older version of the FB app that didn't restrict the contacts.
would this cause my phone to freak out lock-ups and reboots
what is the best way to apply this i just did a full wipe
going to apply first thing...
I get sqlite3: file not found. on xtrROM 4.0.6.1 with facebook 1.3.2
timmywa said:
I get sqlite3: file not found. on xtrROM 4.0.6.1 with facebook 1.3.2
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You'll need to get sqlite3. Most custom roms have it. I think a few stock ones do, as well, actually. Should be easy to find.
DS36 said:
would this cause my phone to freak out lock-ups and reboots
what is the best way to apply this i just did a full wipe
going to apply first thing...
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No, I don't think it would. This is exactly what I've done on my own XaosFroyo V30. No issues.
zanfur said:
No, I don't think it would. This is exactly what I've done on my own XaosFroyo V30. No issues.
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ok i have an issue i used to use sync my pix from the market
i unistalled it a while back but no matter what the older pics always comeback
even if i flashed a new rom or wipe
seems like it wont sync with the newer pics
is there a way to fix this
Killer work man this had been bugging me for a minute.
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Yes, if you're using Android 1.6, or an older version of the FB app that didn't restrict the contacts.
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Im running KaosFroyo v31 and my facebook app is the most recent 1.3.2. Facebook contacts pics work just fine in chompsms. Maybe the chompsms dev just knows what he's doing.
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DS36 said:
ok i have an issue i used to use sync my pix from the market
i unistalled it a while back but no matter what the older pics always comeback
even if i flashed a new rom or wipe
seems like it wont sync with the newer pics
is there a way to fix this
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The syncmypix app actually uploads pictures to your google contacts, so now anytime you sync your google contacts, those pics will come back. You can remove them by going to gmail on a computer, clicking "Contacts", and removing them manually. I'm looking around, but I don't see any nice way to do a bunch at once.
Can anyone else besides OP confirm that this works? Just wanna make sure it's working for more than one person before I try it...
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The syncmypix app actually uploads pictures to your google contacts, so now anytime you sync your google contacts, those pics will come back. You can remove them by going to gmail on a computer, clicking "Contacts", and removing them manually. I'm looking around, but I don't see any nice way to do a bunch at once.
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Ok not a problem im a loser not many contacts...
Will post back results
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I'm using rom as in my signature.
gmail & hotmail accounts setup as pop3 have suddenly stopped working, I get error message like below .
messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device
make sure settings & connection correct & try again
Settings are all correct & we got same fault on more than one HD2 and same via wifi or 3G .
Assuming certificate issue or protocol change the WM6.5.5 inbuilt mail app can't handle .
Had a cert expired warning message for some time but could click accept to carry on ignoring cert issue !
What email situation others having on WM6.5.5 roms ?
Will look into certs & updating but any info from others would be good ...
Well after some research & testing it is ssl protocol change.
mail works fine on a no ssl test setup, after some searching & replies in other threads issue is crypt.dll in wm6.5 only supporting sha1 and now sha2 in use .
newer crypt sha2 is available but looks to need implementation during rom building rather than easily copying/patching it in a device running rom. :-/
Unable add crypt files to roms that protected, unprotected roms would probably work with simple copying of crypt files to running rom but as most are protected (inc NRG) then it will not work.
Also unable dump from protected nbh so will need start from scratch.
If NRG had supplied a kitchen sometime after he retired from WM development it would of been a 15minute job to add the newer crypt package ...
2 easy email solutions is third party apps, profimail & nPOPuk, both work but built in outlook was/is a neat mail client.
amazingly the nPOPuk open ssl works as had better protocol standard .
apps added below if needed (all freeware). npop not nicest to use but is light & runs sd card with no installer .
Other solution is using rebuilt roms with crypt.dll already fixed. Poyensa has done this & some can be found in WM6.5 Rom area .
Try Re-routing Emails Through Local Email Service
Firstly, thank you for continuing to provide support for the magnificent HD2 - I'm on my 5th and will continue until it proves impossible - I'm currently using the Australian Telstra model T9193 but have also had a U.S. T-Mobile model and the original T8585 model.
Secondly, I had the same problem with emails for the last 12-24 months as GMail, Microsoft, Yahoo and others progressively increased their POP3 email security to TLS exclusively, however there are still many email services that continue to use SSL only, for example, iiNet and Telstra, both in Australia. All I do is make use of the free option provided by all the major email services, to forward all my emails onto another email service, from where they can come directly to my HD2 and via which I can still send out emails. For example, I configured my POP3 Microsoft Outlook email account (and others) to forward all arriving emails onto my POP3 iiNet email account, which in turn forwards all emails that arrive there onto my HD2 WM6.5 Pocket Email manager App. It all works seamlessly, just as it always did when all the services arrived separately.
The only confusion that may arise is if your correspondents realise that you give one email address which they can use to contact you but all your responses come from another email address. Frankly, no one I communicate with is savvy enough to even notice.
Cheers, and thanks again.
^ That is a good point .
I do the same for my mums phone as she has a tiscali email with ability use old ssl or none.
Problem is I have no services offering suitable email or see any available. another option could be via web hosting if you got one and have some email setting control .
Is a pain, shame the dll not easily overwritten in device rom as easy tidy fix for everyone .
Thank you for researching this. I had to pull my Tilt2 out of retirement when my M8 tanked on a WM10 build. Was able to revive it, but now that I've got the Tilt out, I plan to at least catch it up on things...
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Unable add crypt files to roms that protected, unprotected roms would probably work with simple copying of crypt files to running rom but as most are protected (inc NRG) then it will not work.
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Dude, this crypt dll is a part of XIP - that means - no way to copy anything to ready rom. Besides - yesterday I just for fun cooked 29366 rom for Leo TMOUS - even with new crypt dll in xip outlook sync does not work. So - just forget it. Gmail seems to work.