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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425694&page=8
DCD well be on the job, i'm sure of it , or if not i would hope so
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Works brilliantly with my Titan, am running DCD 3.2.5 with it. There is a lag when scrolling thru emails and texts and an unsigned error when i try to open my photos and videos.
Killed my ram tho, had 22MB now down to 10MB, definitely made for vogue not titan. Gonna to tinker with it some more, some registry tweaking to see if i can make it perform faster but overall a great addition
origins81 said:
Works brilliantly with my Titan, am running DCD 3.2.5 with it. There is a lag when scrolling thru emails and texts and an unsigned error when i try to open my photos and videos.
Killed my ram tho, had 22MB now down to 10MB, definitely made for vogue not titan. Gonna to tinker with it some more, some registry tweaking to see if i can make it perform faster but overall a great addition
http://rapidshare.de/files/40460199/XDA-Team_Manilla2D.CAB.html
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do you have all the tabs working properly??? contacts, music, weather, programs, pictures....???
All my tabs are working just fine, it picked up all my contacts pictures in HTC home, i can call them just like i could before, i can scroll and read and send texts and emails, opera works great, audio manager is working great, its got my album covers showing, weather I just configured and it's working, haven't tried google maps search tab yet, will post and only other thing not working correctly is the keys in the settings tab, my wallpaper and sounds keys dont work, im getting no response when i press them, needs a lil more work but is working fluid and the lag from earlier seems to have disappeared
UPDATE:
My ram shot up to 17MB now
Everything works unbelievably well now!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425694
A uninstall and re-install did the trick for me, everything works as it should now. Ram isn't so bad, am averaging around 17 - 19MB, which is ok for now
I am trying it out, got most everything working besides the email or text messaging tab closing touchFLO randomly. It seems to be a memory hog too, bet it would run great on No2chems latest Cool UI, cant wait until they get a few more bugs worked out.
kdj67f said:
I am trying it out, got most everything working besides the email or text messaging tab closing touchFLO randomly. It seems to be a memory hog too, bet it would run great on No2chems latest Cool UI, cant wait until they get a few more bugs worked out.
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It does run great on No2Chem nueROM 3 pre1.
blazingwolf said:
It does run great on No2Chem nueROM 3 pre1.
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How is no2chem's latest?
1999TL said:
How is no2chem's latest?
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Fast and has great memory. You lose the camera though. Probably the best ROM I have run so far and he is still playing with it.
I have been running the initial 2d touch flo and the most recent version on my Sprint Mogul. A few minor bugs but otherwise it is running great. I am running it on DCD's 3.2.6. My RAM is hanging around 72% after some use.
The bugs include loss of volume control via the speaker icon at the screen top. And some problems getting the Opal audio manager to see my music.
The crew working on this project is really on the ball! Hope this helps anyone considering trying it out. So far I am happy...
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Fast and has great memory. You lose the camera though. Probably the best ROM I have run so far and he is still playing with it.
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Damn. I dont care for my camera anyhow. It comes in handy every once in a blue moon, but I'd rather have speed. Hmm. Maybe I should wait till a more stable version. flashing is killing me.
the development and hacking area of XDA has about 3-4 running threads about manilla2d with hundreds and hundreds of posts --- its a wreck.
Not to mention every htc owner is trying to get their own specific device going with this new touchflo. I would suggest that jeep14 rename this thread to something like "Manilla2d / Touchflo 2d development for the Titan" and we can use this as command central with some updated info in the first post. Otherwise its so unorganized.. Jeep14 help us get organized here buddy.
Just an FYI I have the latest touchflow2d on my device and half the features dont work. Just a status update to how bad this is. Not sure why every one else isnt jumping on board with this right now. it is like HTC Home 5.0 or something its GREAT!
I uninstalled the last version (which was hell) and installed the latest, and it still eats RAM like candy.
The next logical choice for me was to flash nuerom 3 pre1 and holy crap does that ROM fly! wow. no other words can describe it. I loaded again the latest M2D version on this ROM and it works awesome!
And I still have more RAM at boot than my buddies Kaiser.(almost )
This is sweet. I miss some of the functionality of DCD's finest but this rom (with 12 MB page pool) hauls ass.I will probably run this for a while and flash back to DCD, but for now this blows my mind!
taspankya said:
the development and hacking area of XDA has about 3-4 running threads about manilla2d with hundreds and hundreds of posts --- its a wreck.
Not to mention every htc owner is trying to get their own specific device going with this new touchflo. I would suggest that jeep14 rename this thread to something like "Manilla2d / Touchflo 2d development for the Titan" and we can use this as command central with some updated info in the first post. Otherwise its so unorganized.. Jeep14 help us get organized here buddy.
Just an FYI I have the latest touchflow2d on my device and half the features dont work. Just a status update to how bad this is. Not sure why every one else isnt jumping on board with this right now. it is like HTC Home 5.0 or something its GREAT!
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I have no clue what issues you are having but I'll be glad to help if you can be more descriptive of your issues.
Also, no reason to make this another central thread. It will end up like the other two and tghen where would we be?
blazingwolf said:
I have no clue what issues you are having but I'll be glad to help if you can be more descriptive of your issues.
Also, no reason to make this another central thread. It will end up like the other two and tghen where would we be?
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If not to make this thread an organized central thread then what is the point of this thread to begin with? just to beg DCD or GC to do something?? The thread name is misleading, that is my point.
I am running DCD's latest, and others are running this NoChem business which I have never tried (the rom is in beta, limited releases, and still has bugs)
My issues as of now, that i can name off the top of my head.
Youtube doesnt play (error playing the videos)
internet wont launch Opera
Album doesnt work at all, it recognizes no pictures
Havent tested music..
We do need a central thread for TITAN users, and we need it here. Not random posts spread through out XDA. Just common sense.
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I installed and tested this, but bug and error reports just clutter the main threads. And to be honest, I am not much of a developer so I just sit back and watch things unfold. But keeping device-specific chat about this project right here in our forum may help others here.
taspankya said:
If not to make this thread an organized central thread then what is the point of this thread to begin with? just to beg DCD or GC to do something?? The thread name is misleading, that is my point.
I am running DCD's latest, and others are running this NoChem business which I have never tried (the rom is in beta, limited releases, and still has bugs)
My issues as of now, that i can name off the top of my head.
Youtube doesnt play (error playing the videos)
internet wont launch Opera
Album doesnt work at all, it recognizes no pictures
Havent tested music..
We do need a central thread for TITAN users, and we need it here. Not random posts spread through out XDA. Just common sense.
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case and point:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=16171354
look at all the threads you have jumped to today for mainly the same issues.
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1. I have no idea why the OP started the thread. Maybe it was to ask someone else to get it done. As I recall this was posted before any thing was released for other devices.
2. dcd 3.26 does not have some of the files that nueROM 3 pre 1 does. Probably why everything doesn't work right away.
3. Apparently you are missing a file of some sort. Which YouTube cab did you download? I am using the original YT.cab and it works but it could be something in my ROM that is helping. There is a reg patch to get opera working (assuming your Opera has been installed to Program files). Oh, there is someone reporting that they have YouTube working on dcd 3.26 in the YouTube thread so obviously it can work.
Install YoutubePlay
Open up Regedit
GO to:
HKLM>Software>HTC>Manila2D>InternetWidget>Customiz ed>0
Changed CustomizedURL to
\Program Files\youtubeplay\youtubeplay.exe
Did you install the new camera album? For music I had to install the older Kaiser audio manager and then the new audio manager.
4. No we don't. That just spreads it out even further. Heck, someone felt the need to open another thread about modifying the xml file. That one should be closed and the info kept in the skinning thread. The other problem is people wanting to be lazy and not read things that are going on. Then they post stupid crude like "does it work for my device?". That clogs up the threads with all kinds of fluff. If this program was only for the Titan I would be right with but since it is for a large number of devices it is in the appropriate forum. Of course, this is my personal opinion and since I am just a member I can't control what happens.
5. Your link is broken.
blazingwolf said:
1. I have no idea why the OP started the thread. Maybe it was to ask someone else to get it done. As I recall this was posted before any thing was released for other devices.
2. dcd 3.26 does not have some of the files that nueROM 3 pre 1 does. Probably why everything doesn't work right away.
3. Apparently you are missing a file of some sort. Which YouTube cab did you download? I am using the original YT.cab and it works but it could be something in my ROM that is helping. There is a reg patch to get opera working (assuming your Opera has been installed to Program files). Oh, there is someone reporting that they have YouTube working on dcd 3.26 in the YouTube thread so obviously it can work.
Install YoutubePlay
Open up Regedit
GO to:
HKLM>Software>HTC>Manila2D>InternetWidget>Customiz ed>0
Changed CustomizedURL to
\Program Files\youtubeplay\youtubeplay.exe
Did you install the new camera album? For music I had to install the older Kaiser audio manager and then the new audio manager.
4. No we don't. That just spreads it out even further. Heck, someone felt the need to open another thread about modifying the xml file. That one should be closed and the info kept in the skinning thread. The other problem is people wanting to be lazy and not read things that are going on. Then they post stupid crude like "does it work for my device?". That clogs up the threads with all kinds of fluff. If this program was only for the Titan I would be right with but since it is for a large number of devices it is in the appropriate forum. Of course, this is my personal opinion and since I am just a member I can't control what happens.
5. Your link is broken.
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1. You are right on that, it was an early post. I just would like the member who started it to maintain the first post and rename the thread, if we are to keep using it. That's what I am really trying to say.
2. I have no objections to using the nochem rom, I would like to test it out, however I cant find a link and it seems to be a limited release item.
3. The youtube cab I used was HTCYouTubeQVGA.zip from the HTC YouTube from Diamond And Opal.Jade thread. I will investigate that thread some more, now that you mention that someone has it working. So you are saying I still have to use YoutubePlay and cant get that beautiful one above to play the videos? The app itself runs.
Opera, maybe an issue on my end... I think the Opera Mini install that I did may have been corrupt somehow, so I cant really attribute that to anything yet.
4. I saw the XML editing thread, and it was pointless. But back to point number 1, I believe that here in the Titan Upgrading forum we should have the dedicated thread for us TITAN users. Then we wont have so much clutter in the Hack and Dev forums from noobs asking too many questions. I see it as helping both parties.
5. Yea that link is broken.. i'll take it down.
Thanks for your help... I hope to get a nice TouchFlo 2d customized for the Titan .cab up here soon ... that would be great!
Scott’s VZW ROM - Working VZ Navigator (eRice kitchen v1.03.7) - Rev 1 out!
UPDATE 19 DEC 2008 @ 18:00 Central Time. New ROM is out. Consider this thread discontinued. Files will be on the website for historical purposes. I would recomend upgrading to my latest ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461524
UPDATED 12 Dec 2008 @ 19:00 Central Time
** You will need to dial *22899 after you flash to reprogram. Do this before anything else.
** Other model phones from other carriers will loose custom EPST settings per NexVision's testing.
REVISION 1 Changes at the end of this modified original post
This ROM IS FOR VZW USERS ONLY!
Greetings fellow VZW users. My first creation for us is Custom a ROM based off of eRice’s kitchen in this thread: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=46965.
ROM Info:
**The ROM I created is nearly identical to the “STOCK” ROM with a couple minor additions and an upgrade to the core CE OS files to version 5.2.20931. I pulled all the apps and drivers from the leaked VZW ROM in this into the eRice kitchen from this post: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42741
**I stripped out the Sprint drivers and applications from the eRice kitchen and added the VZW drivers and Apps from the VZW leaked ROM. It was fairly seamless to do. I tested VZ Nav and it worked great!
** This ROM is considerably more smooth than the stock ROM and more responsive in most applications including Touch Flow. No, it doesn’t fix our missing memory problem but I dont think you will notice it as much now. What makes it great is it is based on the 20931 CE OS but retains the 100% stock look via proper drivers and applications.
**VZ Navigator runs well on this ROM!
As far as I know this is the first “Custom” ROM with any sort of GPS for the XV6850.
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*Revision One Changes*
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Added N2A Weather Patch to Autoinstall. INcludes most US cities and patched weather server.
Added Diamond TF3D Config to Autoinstall (Runs with no errors)
Added Nue Fonts with a few extra fonts than what the OEM normally has. They look great on this screen!
Added Advanced Config 3.3
Added Turn off SMS Sent Notification - cabbed by "mixtapeking1900"
Added DotNET CF 2.0 along side DotNet 3.5. DotNet 2.0 installs first then ver 3.5 via Autoinstall (CONFIG.TXT in extended package OEM for the kitchen users.) I bieleve either could be removed but not truly sure. DotNet 3.5 was needed for Advanced Config.*Note - Selecting dotNet 3.5 in the KITCHEN will cause problems! Dont do it unless you proplery modify config.txt to not load them in the AutoRUN.
Removed IE 6.1 (Breaks My Button Setup!)
Removed JetPrint Bluetooth printing (whatever it is called, not sure)
Fixed My Button Settings not launching from the Settings Tab in Manila
Fixed Voice Command> I added it back in. Go to "Settings -> Voice Command" to turn it on before it will RUN!
Kept HTC YouTube
Kept HTC Network Plug in
Kept Internet Sharing
*All Three of these are from the eRice Kitchen. Big thanks to eRice for all 3!
No other installed programs than those listed and the VZW OEM apps.
The ROM is now pretty close to Stock which was the goal. This should be the last revision unless someone finds a major bug.
AS always, please report bugs and any thing you like as well.
Files located at www.scottcrosler.com
Mad Thanks go out to eRice, Commenex and ImCoKeMan for making this possible! Without them none of this would exist!
UPDATED 12 Dec 2008 @ 19:00 Central Time
Basic Installtion Instructions
Download ROM and extract to desktopp (Now includes RUU). Start the ROM Upgrade Utility and follow instructions Flashes just like ANY other phone or ROM. Flashing will destroy ALL data on phone. Always sync with ActiveSync before starting the upgrade utility OR place your phone in bootloader mode (Power, VolDown, and reset)
A call to *228 or *22899 (automated activation line) WILL BE REQUIRED for normal usage! This is true of ALL ROM's and even a simple hard reset of the Verizon stock ROM.
Before you flash you MUST be unlocked. I do not support the unlock process or the software but I can tell if you that if you follow the instructions at the link it works perfect.
Link to unlocker is here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42503
Link to ROM and RUU is here: http://www.scottcrosler.com/
Bugs so far:
Wiped Clean on new revision
**Here is where you will see gains with this ROM over stock...
1. Navigating through menu's, especially the settings menu.
2. Smoothness of TF3D (debateable depending on the tabs.) First time will be slow for EVERY device if you leave ALL the tabs enabled. Each tab is a like a sep app that has to load when you select it. After the tabs are loaded you will see even more gains over the stock ROM.
3. File explorer. Go to the Windows folder. No further explanation needed there, trust me. The stock file explorer took nearly 15 seconds to load Windows. This does it almost instantly.
Updated Kitchen Files!
This is for the eRICE KITCHEN. This is not my own Kitchen but an add on of VZW OEM files to the eRice kitchen.
Its the OEM pack that I used to create this ROM. Its what I stripped out of the VZW leaked ROM. I added just a couple OEMs that are not in the cooked ROM. I dont have the original OEM's broken out! IF anyone wants to break it down further like eRice did with his original kitchen let me know and I will host it on my site.
INSTRUCTIONS FOR KITCHEN SET UP:
Download and extract (to desktop) eRice 1.03.07 kitchen from here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42796
Delete the entire OEM folder from inside the kitchen!
Download and extract the VZW OEM folder from www.scottcrosler.com and place it in the eRice kitchen as to replace the one you just delted. I made one minor change to the pure VZW OEM folders.I dropped the phonecanvas XML provisioning file into OEM apps. i think it supposed to be in SYS but I dont know.... It works fine the way it is. If you have never heard of the file then ignore this part of the post.
Start RaphealKitchen.CMD and follow instructions.
***Do not select DotNET 3.5 in the kitchen!!!. It is enabled by default, delelect it. Will cause issues.
I will try to support the kitchen as much as possible. Please do not bother eRice with this hybrid kitchen as I am sure he will not support my hybrid creation.
Thank eRice for this kitchen.
Thank the original poster of this thread for the leaked ROM I worked with:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=42741. Not sure who posted it.
Thank me for putting it together!
I AM NOT TAKING CREDIT FOR ANY OF THE FILES. I do however take credit for converting to VZW OEM.
Should there be a link to your ROM here?
Are there instructions on how to flash?
Like putting phone into bootloader mode or anything else necessary?
Does the unlock process wipe the phone or does only the ROM update wipe?
Anyone tried this yet? Any reviews?
It's a lot of work to reinstall everything and to re-apply my special settings, even though I've been documenting what I've done.
Also, I was thinking of trying that Telus radio. Can I still try that on this? Does a radio update/change wipe the device clean or that's non-destructive?
lexluthor said:
Should there be a link to your ROM here?
Are there instructions on how to flash?
Like putting phone into bootloader mode or anything else necessary?
Does the unlock process wipe the phone or does only the ROM update wipe?
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I updated the second post with the steps you need. Sorry was trying not to get flamed on my thread. Someone over at PPCGeeks flamed me for pretty much no reason other than the fact that they could. It only stopped me from releasing my ROM over there. Oh well. There loss. Too bad because there are some really good people over there. The eRice kitchen was perfect in every aspect of a ktichen. I was never so impressed. Impressed enouhg to download the leaked ROM and portover the VZW software ;c) Its a nice change over the stock CE OS. If you flash let me knwo what you think.
Hi Scott,
I've been lurking on both forums since I got my Titan last December. I have learned much from everyone here and over at PPCG: these are the best resources by far for those of us into our phones and the tech behind it.
I agree that you were treated less than "professionally" over at PPCG, and hope that you will continue to work on the VZW TP/XV6850. Thanks for this great use of Eric's kitchen tools and stock ROM, along with your knowledge on how to get them all working for us! My take from the eRice thread is that he has no issue whatsoever with you using his stuff, and in fact he welcomes it for us VZW stepchildren... hehe.
This ROM does indeed kick arse, and hopefully GC and others will figure out the PRI lockdown and we will all have an amazing little machine to play with: it is w/o a doubt a much slicker device than the Titan, and I dug that little unit for the better part of a year
Cheers Pal
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This ROM does indeed kick arse, and hopefully GC and others will figure out the PRI lockdown and we will all have an amazing little machine to play with: it is w/o a doubt a much slicker device than the Titan, and I dug that little unit for the better part of a year
Cheers Pal
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You've installed this ROM? Is the difference completely obvious?
digitalattic said:
Hi Scott,
I've been lurking on both forums since I got my Titan last December. I have learned much from everyone here and over at PPCG: these are the best resources by far for those of us into our phones and the tech behind it.
I agree that you were treated less than "professionally" over at PPCG, and hope that you will continue to work on the VZW TP/XV6850. Thanks for this great use of Eric's kitchen tools and stock ROM, along with your knowledge on how to get them all working for us! My take from the eRice thread is that he has no issue whatsoever with you using his stuff, and in fact he welcomes it for us VZW stepchildren... hehe.
This ROM does indeed kick arse, and hopefully GC and others will figure out the PRI lockdown and we will all have an amazing little machine to play with: it is w/o a doubt a much slicker device than the Titan, and I dug that little unit for the better part of a year
Cheers Pal
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You know what Dude, that is all I needed for motivation! You verizon users have some serisou **** instore for you ;c) Thanks for the positive feedback! Im motivated again!
They will figure out the PRI crap. It will take time. I wish skywing would port over his adapter program. I could incormporate that and we would have 100% GPS just like everyone else. He stated in his thread he was not interested in doing so. Thats a huge loss for us that we never even had ;c(
For the record!
For the record:
I have always asked permission before I redistribute any item found here. I asked DCD for his kitchen when I posted my R4R ROM for the Titan's.
I asked eRice specifically if I could port his stuff over for VZW users. His response was:
"if you can get the sprint carrier files split from the rom/kitchen and include the vzw ones, more power to you. that's what this forum is about. sharing ideas and results and improving on them for the benefit of everyone."
Its posted here. Just for the record ;c)
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=567803&postcount=56
lexluthor said:
Should there be a link to your ROM here?
Are there instructions on how to flash?
Like putting phone into bootloader mode or anything else necessary?
Does the unlock process wipe the phone or does only the ROM update wipe?
Anyone tried this yet? Any reviews?
It's a lot of work to reinstall everything and to re-apply my special settings, even though I've been documenting what I've done.
Also, I was thinking of trying that Telus radio. Can I still try that on this? Does a radio update/change wipe the device clean or that's non-destructive?
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A few people have tried on PPCGeeks with great success as posted above.
Keep it coming. Two things to note. And YES I Just installed this ROM.
First, I had to *228 (not surprised but it is required to get data connections to work. This has been true for every ROM i've played with as well as custom ROM's i've built in the kitchen.)
Second, Comm Manager is missing from the slider menu with TF3D enabled. (Although still accessible via the keyboard shortcut.)
I will play some more and let you know what else I find. Thanks.
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Keep it coming. Two things to note. And YES I Just installed this ROM.
First, I had to *228 (not surprised but it is required to get data connections to work. This has been true for every ROM i've played with as well as custom ROM's i've built in the kitchen.)
Second, Comm Manager is missing from the slider menu with TF3D enabled. (Although still accessible via the keyboard shortcut.)
I will play some more and let you know what else I find. Thanks.
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The comm manager TAB or the comm manager link in the settings Tab? Its just fine for me. There is no Comm manager TAB in VZW version of TF3D.
I see you use the PPC Kitchen. That does have the Comm Manager Tab and you are used to that. This version is stragiht ripped from the ROM. No changes AT ALL. The stock phone doesnt have COmm manager Tab.
How about responsiveness?
Launching VZ Nav opened Opera and downloaded the CAB. CAB launched got to privacy screen but complained about not being able to save privacy settings. Only option is to lick OK. You are then brough tto the "default" VZ NAV error screen telling you there was a problem with your GPS device. I do have the CAB for VZ NAV now however.
Re-Launching VZ NAV produces the same result. Unable to save privacy and crashes out.
My mistake. You're right. I've gone through so many ROM's that it's a blur. The "Communications" link is still under the "Settings" tab in TF3D as it should be.
So far responsiveness is good. I have not configured the settings for my "regular" business use however.
Perhaps the reason VZ NAV will not install is because it's the official signed version?
bkurek said:
My mistake. You're right. I've gone through so many ROM's that it's a blur. The "Communications" link is still under the "Settings" tab in TF3D as it should be.
So far responsiveness is good. I have not configured the settings for my "regular" business use however.
Perhaps the reason VZ NAV will not install is because it's the official signed version?
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No, It always crashes twice at the initial set up, even on the Stock ROM. Its a crappy program I know! Try it a third time and you are good from then on. If not let me know and I will upload the Cab that I have. Nothing special about it though.
EDIT: I relfashed my phone, installed and it worked for me. It still does the three times to load problem. Two GPS errors for me. Then the third time it starts. THis is the EXACT behavior of the stock ROM.
bkurek,
How do you "go through so many roms"? Isn't it an hour or more to reinstall all of your apps and personal settings or is there some easier way that I'm missing?
I can't restore with SPB Backup, right?
Would you say this rom is noticeably faster?
lexluthor said:
bkurek,
How do you "go through so many roms"? Isn't it an hour or more to reinstall all of your apps and personal settings or is there some easier way that I'm missing?
I can't restore with SPB Backup, right?
Would you say this rom is noticeably faster?
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You MAY be able to restore with SPB back up. MAY being the keyword. You can always try it. It wont hurt anything. Worse case scenraio; Hard reset.
I will let bkurek answer the respoinsiveness question. Anything from me woudl be purely biased ;c)
bkurek said:
My mistake. You're right. I've gone through so many ROM's that it's a blur. The "Communications" link is still under the "Settings" tab in TF3D as it should be.
So far responsiveness is good. I have not configured the settings for my "regular" business use however.
Perhaps the reason VZ NAV will not install is because it's the official signed version?
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I relfashed my phone, installed and it worked for me. It still does the three times to load problem. Two errors that you just click though then the third time it starts. THis is the EXACT behavior of the stock ROM. It crashes twice on the Stock ROM as well.
Also did you install to storage card or main memory? I only install to main memory.
scrosler said:
You MAY be able to restore with SPB back up. MAY being the keyword. You can always try it. It wont hurt anything. Worse case scenraio; Hard reset.
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That's true. Since it's basically the stock ROM, I might have a shot. I guess the one thing that might be a problem would be your IE6 update.
lexluthor said:
bkurek,
How do you "go through so many roms"? Isn't it an hour or more to reinstall all of your apps and personal settings or is there some easier way that I'm missing?
I can't restore with SPB Backup, right?
Would you say this rom is noticeably faster?
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I go through them because I enjoy doing so and I'm looking for what *I* want. Yes it can be that long but I don't go through all the motions until I've found the right combination/foundation to build on. I did not for instance configure ALL of my email accounts or setup active synch in vista, etc etc
Yes it does feel very snappy but just like anything else you'll find it to be faster today and go back to *****ing about how slow it is tomorrow. It's a matter of perception in the end. You'll always want more. I'm actually more interested in a stable build than a faster one because I already know it'll never be as fast as I want it to be. I have experienced a myriad of stability issues that if I don't find a remedy for I will return this phone. They manifest mostly in the messaging components at this time. I have not had to soft reset a phone this much since 1990-something. Speaking of which, as a completely uninteresting side note, I have not posted to a forum since early 1990-something but the point is that I do like this device and would like to see it improved upon is why I am taking the time to post now. It’s a cool phone. Give it some time. Someone, somewhere will make it faster and more stable. I think.
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I relfashed my phone, installed and it worked for me. It still does the three times to load problem. Two errors that you just click though then the third time it starts. THis is the EXACT behavior of the stock ROM. It crashes twice on the Stock ROM as well.
Also did you install to storage card or main memory? I only install to main memory.
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Interesting. My stock did not have this problem but it came pre-loaded with VZ NAV. Third time is the charm.
Program files and things I don't want to lose always go to main for me.
First off, I need to thank everyone on this site for the wealth of information that is contained here. I took my stock XV6800 and walked through several tutorials and I've put on 4 different ROM's in 2 days, all of them with the GPS functioning like a champ and everything on the phone running swimmingly.
A special thanks to mr-free for his prompt responses and dcd for his excellent guides.
Anyway, I've already used two kitchens so far to make custom roms (Titan Kitchen 6.5 Beta 4, and Titan Reloaded 1.3.2). Both create very usable ROM's but there's aspects of each that I like better than the others. Since Kitchen 6.5 uses WM 6.5, I'd like to start with that one, but there are several OEM packages that I would like to add to it from Titan Reloaded, as well as a couple of other ones that I've found from the web.
And so I'm not flamed, I have searched and found the following information about Alex's Cooking Kits helpful, but still not completely sufficient to answering my questions:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser ROM Kitchen Tutorial
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Alex's Cooking Kits
And on to the questions:
1) Is it possible to just copy the folders from the OEM folder of the Titan Reloaded 1.3.2 kitchen into the OEM folder of the 6.5 Beta 4 Kitchen and have them show up in the "BuildOS" menu?
2) Are the instructions in Alex's Cooking Kits applicable to the Titan? Its geared towards the Kaiser, and I couldn't find anything that would lead me to believe it is compatible with the Titan. If not, is there a "Cooking Kit" suitable for the Titan?
I'm not to the point where I'm capable of creating my own OEM packages, but I'm gunning for that too eventually. No questions on that though...yet.
The only question I can help with is your first. The OEM packages from Titan Reloaded 1.3.2 should be able to be copied into pretty much any kitchen.
Note that the Manila_2d_Scott OEM from Titan Reloaded kind of depends on the SYS\dcd_UCAutorun package, as it installs the first M2D theme from CAB at boot. This may be fixed in later versions by making a seperate config.txt for m2d. That way the OEM package will be more portable.
Note that the Youtube package from Titan Reloaded also requires the YTFIX package, but those will hopefully be merged in later versions.
Other than that, you just need to watch out for conflicting packages. Usually buildos will give you errors if this happens, so you'll know.
Awesome, that's really helpful.
Actually m2d is not something I was planning on keeping anyway. I'm moving from a Samsung i760 (dreadfully unhackable) but in an attempt to make it more usable, I actually paid for SPB Mobile Shell, and SPB Phone Suite. I've gotten quite addicted to using them and I don't find m2d to be a sufficient replacement for primarily the lack of ring profiles. Ring/Vib/Silent just isn't enough for me. (And PhoneAlarm doesn't have what I need either.)
What I was looking to move though was:
Adobe Reader 2.5
YouTube (with the YTFIX, now, obviously)
HTC Album
Tweak_Volume_Higher
no2chem_nueExtROM
There aren't any dependencies there that I need to be aware of, are there?
I couldn't find Google Maps in the OEM folder from Titan Reloaded but its no big deal, I can download it I guess.
I guess I should have mentioned that to use the no2chem_nueExtROM package, you'll need to add these lines to the bottom of ROM\XIP\boot.rgu.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\ EXT_FLASHDRV]
"DefaultFileSystem"="FATFS"
"Name"=""
"PartitionDriver"=""
"MountHidden"=dword:0
"Folder"="Extended_ROM"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\ EXT_FLASHDRV\FATFS]
"FormatTFAT"=dword:1
"EnableWriteBack"=dword:1
"EnableCache"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\ EXT_FLASHDRV]
"DriverPath"="Drivers\\BuiltIn\\EXT_FLASHDRV"
"LoadFlags"=dword:1
"Order"=dword:12
"Bootphase"=dword:2
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\EXT_FLASHDRV]
"Profile"="EXT_FLASHDRV"
"Index"= dword:1
"Dll"="OEM_FLASHDRV.dll"
"Prefix"="DSK"
"Order"=dword:13
"IClass"=multi_sz:"{A4E7EDDA-E575-4252-9D6B-4195D48BB865}"
It's possible that this is what's causing some people problems with Titan Reloaded 1.3.2 though. If you've already used Titan Reloaded 1.3.2, you probably don't have to worry about this. It might not even be the cause though. Most people are having no problems with it.
Also, based on someone's post in the 6.5 ROM thread, you'll likely want to remove this file from the kitchen before adding in an adobe reader package:
SYS\OEMAPPS\ppc_adobereaderle.exe
Titan Reloaded installs GoogleMaps from CAB during customizations. Since Google is likely to upgrade the app often, I'd recommend that you just download it and install like you said.
Those are the only caveats I can think of for the packages that you mentioned.
DustinEarnhardt said:
First off, I need to thank everyone on this site...
A special thanks to mr-free for his prompt responses and dcd for his excellent guides.
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Anytime you are very welcome..!!! I do what I can when I am around
bitserve said:
...I'd recommend that you just download it and install like you said.
Those are the only caveats I can think of for the packages that you mentioned.
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x2 .. I find that loading programs as CABs or during customizations
is a damm cool and a better idea then loading it all in the ROM,
just having that options to remove something is a very good feeling lol
FYI: I got the ok from s10onn2o to upload a clean built 6.5 beta ROM
not kitchen .. the ROM is what I use .. got a few things fix and a few more stuff
cleaned up.. also has some basic missing apps, WM Office 6.1 + notes, Adobe,
sweet TF2D dialer, etc.. etc..
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FYI: I got the ok from s10onn2o to upload a clean built 6.5 beta ROM
not kitchen .. the ROM is what I use .. got a few things fix and a few more stuff
cleaned up.. also has some basic missing apps, WM Office 6.1 + notes, Adobe,
sweet TF2D dialer, etc.. etc..
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So have you uploaded yet? give us the link.
mr-free said:
FYI: I got the ok from s10onn2o to upload a clean built 6.5 beta ROM
not kitchen .. the ROM is what I use .. got a few things fix and a few more stuff
cleaned up.. also has some basic missing apps, WM Office 6.1 + notes, Adobe,
sweet TF2D dialer, etc.. etc..
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Heh, I've got a little more patience than "Give it to me now!" but yes, this does sound very nice. The omission of Office was also something that was really bugging me about 6.5.
In the meantime I ended up playing around with PPCkitchen and WOW are there a lot of packages. Too many actually. It takes me 15 minutes to go through them all. The build I'm running today is pretty good, but I still wish I was running WM6.5. I'm sure I'll come across your ROM once you've got it uploaded. XDA is rapidly becoming one of my favorite sites (and not to mention a huge time sink!!)
Anyone can add office to 6.5. Just get the oem from BuildOS and put it in the oem folder for beta 4,
Wow, its that easy huh?
I think I'll just do that then! This place rules!
Can it be? Is mr. dcd1182 back from the dead?
My Touch PRO has been waiting it's whole life for a dcd rom, i searched but didn't find anything about this goodie!!!!!!!!!Anyone have a clue about anything about it?
It looks like it was uploaded 5-22-09
It also has a PagePool of only 6Mb, is this a verizon rom? I'm afraid to flash my Sprint TP not knowing anything else
*edit, if you need instructions follow my post on ppcgeeks, seems like more people are trying it out over there
Back when i had my Titan i would run DCD all the time and loved his work enough to donate. right now i'm running Mightymike 4.16 and have been looking to flash another rom. perfect timing.
DCD, thanks for making the move to the Touch Pro.
for those looking for HTC task manager, i'm using the one below. also DCD used GfxBoost in .92, but i didn't see it in .96 or later builds so i included it also.
whoa, it must be really really stripped. it's only 64 mb?
How did you find this and does he even want it "released"?
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How did you find this and does he even want it "released"?
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His site is public. If he doesn't want to share it, then he needs to change the website/ftp settings. As far as I know, he hasn't officially "released" it yet. No announcements from him. I tried it, but the mobile internet wasn't working consistently, so I had to go back to mightyrom.
ROM is very fast and stable and data worked fine for me on Sprint. However, the phone would not ring on incoming calls. I checked all the settings I could think of and vibrate works fine but no ring. Flashing to another ROM only because of that. Bummer...
for some strange reason my data goes in and out. i can't seem to track down the cause yet. i'll mess around with it some more. also DCD is using a different build of opera mobile then i'm used to. i just loaded up the newest build i could find and all was well
Edit: here's a link to the opera i used. it's pretty new
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=940117&postcount=88
Wish List!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just my 2 cents so here we go.
I would like to see the this rom include:
1. Full qwerty keyboard.
2. Ability to turn of flashing light on new txt, email, etc.
3. Random access added
4. On people tab add ability to contact via txt, email or call as only has ability to call now! BOO
5. When viewing txt, email, etc. from said tab, mark items as read removing new count number, without having to launch said app.
thanks in advance!
.96
There's a .96 .exe in the link now......time to flash..
Nate
there are (I think) two apps that are vital for this rom to work great: HTC task manager and GfxBoost. Anyone interested in this rom should us these.
very fast rom...i think faster than yay4jugg which i was using for a few months now.
just needs pagepool changed
opera is set as default. how do i disable it or remove opera.
also noticable fast battery drain.
works on sprint. just need the sprint cab.
DCD has 1.02 up now
This is not at popular as the thread over on ppcgeeks, but there still might be some people that have not seen this yet and that would be a shame.
DCD just posted 1.09. i'm running 1.08 and it's one of the best Pro roms out there. give it a try.
t0mmyr said:
follow my post on ppcgeeks
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Here's is a link to that thread I'm trying to keep up to date until dcd steps in and makes it official
I have decided to hang up the Titan and pickup an Imagio. So most likely my wm6.5 ROM cooking is over. Sorry....
Build 28011 Now Available
Hey guys. I realize there is not much support for us Titan owners over here. I, myself recently downgraded to a used Titan, not really knowing what was to be expected. I like the device for the most part, but the new ROM support really stinks. Luckily, Joojoobee666 from PPCGeeks has been updating us with the ported XIP from the newest Windows Mobile 6.5 builds.
I prefer to keep my personal ROMs pretty clean and simple. I don't place my name on any screen or accept donations, so please don't ask. I just make them for myself and support will be limited.
These ROMs are for Verizon vx6800. From this point on, I assume you have read the wiki for ROM and Radio upgrades. I am not responsible if your ppc blows smoke.
****Any and all my ROMs will have Verizon carrier built in unless otherwise stated****
Build 28011
I can't tell any difference between this build and 28004/05. Maybe a little snappier? Can't tell as I haven't fully set up my titan. But browsing through wifi, phone calls and sms works. No freeze issues!
Verizon 28011
http://www.4shared.com/file/171401992/7c1c7267/vzw_28011.html
TelecomNZ 28011
http://www.4shared.com/file/171404061/5a82f4af/telecomnz_28011.html
Build 28004
This build has shown to be the most stable for our Titan ppc. 28002 had sleep issues, along with 28008. 28005 which I am currently using has freeze ups with wifi connections. So I will be flashing back to this ROM that I am posting, unless something better comes out in the next hour.
I think I forgot to add Microsoft Office on this ROM, but all the other usual programs apply. Some of you may have read about the new skin for the winmo keyboard called "msimar." I tried to add this kb version into the ROM with no luck.
DL VZW 28004 here;
http://www.4shared.com/file/166819476/6b31f797/VZW_28004_LIGHT.html
TELECOM NZ 28004;
http://www.4shared.com/file/166827400/6a6cc986/TELECOM_28004_LIGHT.html
Installing and will report back! Tomorrow I get my Touch Pro 2 so this is the last time I play around with this phone. Figure I'd make the most of it.
I just noticed this morning that the WirelessManager(formerly comm manager) button isn't working. To get around this is simple.
Open Total Commander
Open Windows directory and scroll down to wrlsmgr.exe
Tap wrlsmgr.exe once
Press "file" select >>>>>> (A)
Create shortcut
Press Tree-> navigate to start menu in the windows directory
Press ok
Now you can add the comm manager functionality by going to start>settings>personal>buttons
Select comm manager and then select wrlsmgr from the drop down box.
I do some ROMs of my own working with PPCKitchen. How can I get the new WM65 build into the kitchen to cook a new one? I have had a 6800 for about 8 months and love it. Would love it more if I could get the GPS to work. Baby steps.
It's actually pretty simple over all. You will have to create a text file and modify another. Drop the SYS and Common archives into the kitchen folder. Add the new XIP.bin to the Titan core archive's ROM folder. Sounds difficult at first, but one you get it down, it should take less than 5 minutes to add a new build.
Here's a link showing how to add a new 6.5 build to an apache kitchen.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1072584&postcount=6523
Well done! This is a quick, snappy rom. Why is it that no one puts office in their roms anymore? Also may I suggest a more versatile comm manager and the adding the htc task manager? I understand you are keeping it 'barebones' but just some add ons people may want.
Thanks for sharing and once again well done!
Scoupe said:
Why is it that no one puts office in their roms anymore? Also may I suggest a more versatile comm manager and the adding the htc task manager?
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Hmmm, now that I think about it, I haven't seen a wm6.5 rom with office either. I wonder if it is a compatibility issue or if cooks just don't bother with it, because they will be cooking again in a few days when the next build is leaked?
I wish I could come up with a more versatile comm manager. From what I understand, Microsoft is doing away with the comm manager and introducing the wirelessmanager. File names and commands have changed, so the older comm managers that we are accustomed to no longer work.
As for the htc task manager, it is no longer compatible either. As you know, the start, task and quick menu were at the top right corner of the screen. Now that microsoft has moved the start button to the bottom, the functionality of the htc task manager has deminished. I have read that the dotfred task manager still works, but I am not familiar with the app. I can try to cook a new rom with a comm manager and htc task manager, if you want to try it out and see if its true or not. Which comm manager do you prefer?
That is too bad many of the nice convinces we are accustomed to do not work on the new builds.
I do like having office, it comes in handy. It is released in the build and not cooked in after the fact?
I imagine you will agree with me, I think that a task manager on the home screen is essential for our devices. I would be willing to try a htc managaer and comm manager rom.
I like the htc comm manager (originally released for the touch but adapted for our devices).
Thanks!
GPS?
Does GPS work on this ROM "out of the box" or do i need to apply the settings from the wiki after i install the rom?
thanks in advance
I have a 6800 as well and mine has never worked. I have tried all the "patches", radios, tweaks, everything (well clearly not everything). Still no GPS signal. Even took the phone apart to double check the processor version. I am almost convinced mine doesn't have one. If anyone has a suggestion I would love to hear it.
I have Verizon and got my 6800 this year too. I've got mine to work well. I first started by following the old threads. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanRecentHome
I unlocked and downgraded my ROM and used an old radio too. Carefully read the instructions!!!...I used a 2GB micro SD for all the early programming but use active sync today for most ROM/Radio changes.
I also use GPSGate to establish a strong lock-on for IGO8 GPS but do not need it for Garmin XT, TomTom7, or Astro Navigator II.
I do not use AGPS --- I do not use my data plan, just WIFI at home and other locations for GPSWeather and GoogleMaps to work.
I'm hoping this thread and any new updates here will provide at least 22MB free after loading all my software, games, and GPS stuff. Most of these new builds give you 25MB free with more add-on than this build ROM. All of the ROMs I tried, over 16, provide GPS if the radio allows it. I do not know of any newer radios or ROMs produced this year that do not support GPS. I believe your free RAM must be over 20MB to start IGO8 and about 17 MB for the others. If you run ROMs or SW that does not release ram after closing you may never have enough ram for GPS to work.
Scoupe said:
I imagine you will agree with me, I think that a task manager on the home screen is essential for our devices. I would be willing to try a htc managaer and comm manager rom.
I like the htc comm manager (originally released for the touch but adapted for our devices).
Thanks!
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I do agree about the task manager. While this build has the built in task manager, it is not as convenient as having quick menu in the corner of the home page.
I am building a new rom as I type containing the office apps word, pow point and excel. Also added the htc comm manager and htc task. Also changed the first boot splash screen to an htc splash. I believe that's all I changed. I am not going to flash this one since I am fairly satisfied with the original. But if you would like to try it out, please give us feedback on the comm manager and task manager compatibility issues, if any. It'll be linked to the first post when the rom is built.
rmancl said:
Does GPS work on this ROM "out of the box" or do i need to apply the settings from the wiki after i install the rom?
thanks in advance
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I didn't include navigation in the rom. Its not something I use in my phone, since Navi came with my car.
rmancl said:
Does GPS work on this ROM "out of the box" or do i need to apply the settings from the wiki after i install the rom?
thanks in advance
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He is not talking about a GPS program as he references "settings" in his post bolded above. So he of course knows that 99 times out of 100 a Chef doesnt include a real Nav program in the ROM (maps obviously too large for device memory). Now google maps.. Thats a commonly cooked in application.
Answer is Yes and No for you rmancl. The ROM comes with a gps driver, and is obviously GPS radio required so thats half of it. The other half is making sure your GPS one settings in QPST are accurate for your Carrier and then navigating to this location in the registry to set the Suplagps settings [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\SUPL AGPS\. Other resolutions include installing the various GPS CABs that are out there.
The god of the titan rom building community has spoken.
mindtrip1016 said:
The god of the titan rom building community has spoken.
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And I have the downloads and donations to prove it rookie.
You posted in my thread without any negativity from me. So whats your problem?
Thanks for the one off brew Mindtrip! I flashed it and have been testing. Office and Comm Manager work perfectly. Comm Manager actually runs much quicker than other roms i have tried. Unfortunately Task Manager does not work as you expected. It is really too bad. I have done some research too and it doesn't appear we have a home screen task manager for this build.
It's a nice simple rom, which makes it nice and quick. Thanks again.
RyanMogul6800 said:
And I have the downloads and donations to prove it rookie.
You posted in my thread without any negativity from me. So whats your problem?
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I posted in your thread to help someone having problems with PCM keyboard. I didn't know that threads were marked territorially. I am just here to help others in the best way that I can. You on the other hand, do your very best to make others needing help feel stupid or inadequate. Remember the person who posted about your rom who said something along the lines of" I really dig your rom, I just wish it didn't have your name all over it"??? Remember what you replied to that? You told the guy that he was a peice of dirt. That he is nothing to you!! How the heck can you say that to someone who just said your rom is good?? Your ego is overwelming! Because of that and the other posts you make trying to make yourself sound like god, like the one in this thread is what encouraged me to learn to build my own roms. I don't need you, nor do I care if you exist. But I am not going to tell you that, nor would I intentionally try to make you or anyone else feel like crap for posting an obvious question.
The downloads and donations don't mean anything to me, as stated in the first post of this thread. I have a job, do you? I do this as a hobby. For fun. To help others who may not have a solid understanding of what is going on here. What is your purpose? Develop roms and stroke your ego?
Scoupe said:
Thanks for the one off brew Mindtrip! I flashed it and have been testing. Office and Comm Manager work perfectly. Comm Manager actually runs much quicker than other roms i have tried. Unfortunately Task Manager does not work as you expected. It is really too bad. I have done some research too and it doesn't appear we have a home screen task manager for this build.
It's a nice simple rom, which makes it nice and quick. Thanks again.
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Awesome scoupe! Thats nice to know. I will had the comm manager to the next build. Want me to cook you a rom without the task manager?
No thats ok this rom is running just fine! Thanks again. I am going to really do some digging for a task manager for this build.