I found this site http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/13612/14636/windows-mobile-61-coming-april.phtml
It states that Windows Mobile 6 will officially be released. I know we have had WM6.1 for a while, but maybe when it comes out we can make a kitchen for it ( if it is a New and Much improved) This possibly can fix the bugs that we encountered. And since it is officially released, any bugs found can be reported to microsoft for (service and repair) type of incidents.
Maybe?
yeah engadget reaffirmed this in a post yesterday. but afaik, the version of WM 6.1 that we have now in DCDs rom and others is the official version. I dont think that the retail 6.1 will be any different
It is likely that they have made a diffrent build by now. I have seen screen shots of phones such as the xperia and others with newer builds.
If this is true then maybe new features are introduced (such as the deepfish browser), or even some fixes for bugs that we have already.
i thought that deepfish had been scrapped. ms didnt want to spend the money in server resources. xperia is on 6.1 no doubt, but i didnt know about the version number. i dont know. for sure there might be a few tweaks.
just outta curiosity, i know the stock roms use windows update. would cooking that into a rom not work for reg updates? i mean would MS see it as a non-legit version of windows?
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i thought that deepfish had been scrapped. ms didnt want to spend the money in server resources. xperia is on 6.1 no doubt, but i didnt know about the version number. i dont know. for sure there might be a few tweaks.
just outta curiosity, i know the stock roms use windows update. would cooking that into a rom not work for reg updates? i mean would MS see it as a non-legit version of windows?
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Even if we don't get deepfish which I hope we do, I'm sure that they might have improved on some PIE issues.
But about MS updates that is another good reason to have an officially released copy. (our versions don't have it -- well mine doesn't)That way we wont have to fear of getting any updates through MS or even to call them or email them for support. It will all be legit.
no2chem has the latest build in his rom.
dcd's build in 3.0.1 is rtm. there is another build out there i know of, whether it is the same build as the "official release" i'm not sure, have to look it up. either way, i'm sure dcd knows and is working on another kitchen with the latest build.
i hope so, i havnt flashed my phone in 4 days, im getting trigger happy
I you look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379769&page=2 DCD said he is running 19202.1.0.0 build. His latest Kitchen uses Build 19199.1.0.0. He didn't mention any changes in builds though. Perhaps he will release a new ROM and kitchen off the build he's using.
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I you look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379769&page=2 DCD said he is running 19202.1.0.0 build. His latest Kitchen uses Build 19199.1.0.0. He didn't mention any changes in builds though. Perhaps he will release a new ROM and kitchen off the build he's using.
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I'm sure that is in the works, I thought the same thing when I read DCD's post.
Do you think the 6.1 update from M$ will be available through the Windows Update feature? I have never gotten any updates through that as of yet.
Or are we going to have to wait for Veriz on to approve it for another 6 months....
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Do you think the 6.1 update from M$ will be available through the Windows Update feature? I have never gotten any updates through that as of yet.
Or are we going to have to wait for Veriz on to approve it for another 6 months....
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From what I understand of the WU update application, it can't push an entire firmware. Just individual files in the event of a major problem, like a security issue. Even though the feature is there, they have never pushed any updates to it.
every time i see a website regarding the official wm6.1 the screen shots the provided are completely different than the version of 6.1 i am running (dcd's 3.0.1 wm6.1 build 19199.1.0.0) including the link provide in post #1. today screen is different and the start menu is at the bottom as a soft key. anyone else notice this?
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/gallery/handsets/windows-mobile-61/
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every time i see a website regarding the official wm6.1 the screen shots the provided are completely different than the version of 6.1 i am running (dcd's 3.0.1 wm6.1 build 19199.1.0.0) including the link provide in post #1. today screen is different and the start menu is at the bottom as a soft key. anyone else notice this?
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/gallery/handsets/windows-mobile-61/
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I believe that is Windows Mobile Standard used on smartphones, whereas we use Windows Mobile Professional (the pocket pc version).
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I believe that is Windows Mobile Standard used on smartphones, whereas we use Windows Mobile Professional (the pocket pc version).
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k that makes sense since they cant touch the screen to open the start menu if its in the top left corner.
WM 6.1 coming to Mogul?
I know that HTC and Sprint posted the new ROM on March 10, anyone knows if they are going to offer an official upgrade on the Mogul?
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I know that HTC and Sprint posted the new ROM on March 10, anyone knows if they are going to offer an official upgrade on the Mogul?
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Knowing HTC and their history with upgrades I wouldn't bet on it. Personally I suspect that the most recent upgrade we got will be the last official one. If I had to guess, I'd say HTC will announce some kind of new phone for Sprint this year.
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Knowing HTC and their history with upgrades I wouldn't bet on it. Personally I suspect that the most recent upgrade we got will be the last official one. If I had to guess, I'd say HTC will announce some kind of new phone for Sprint this year.
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Sad but true. I hope we at least get the display update they're working on.
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Sad but true. I hope we at least get the display update they're working on.
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xj, what update would that be? where can I read about it?
Thanks
UPDATE
Microsoft Officially will release WM6.1 on the SPRINT MOGUL
according to Engadgetmobile http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/04/01/microsoft-announces-windows-mobile-6-1-device-upgrades/
So this might mean we can supply the TITAN community with the official GPS / Rev. A ROM & an official WM6.1 ROM ( with possible bug fixes)
Also MANILLA gets official on WM6.1
Check out : http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/03/28/htcs-manilla-gets-screenshotted/
We might also be able to integrate this.
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OK, we all know its not going to formally happen (2003 SE Update that is...) and we all know the hardware is almost identical, therefore...
Development versions of the SE ROM's must exist somewhere, they may not be production ready but may work very well, at some point these hopefully will become available on the WEB via unofficial sources.
or
Has anyone managed to extract one of the new XDA IIs ROM's and tried to update a standard XDA II. OK there will be additional drivers and settings for such hardware as wireless adaptors, these will just not initialize all other hardware should work.
not just additional drivers people messed around with it and even the blue angle had a different cpu and bluetooth hardware and .......
i dont think people have been able to change in the core rom parts even on the old xda1's
windows CE is very unlike pc windows when it comes to being portable and having any other drivers then the ones it was made for :/
there were threads about tests in the old hacking it forum not sure if they got lost in the crash
think it would be a much better bet to get hold of some of those beta roms that people claimed to have been using on their xda2's
yup... need 'em beta ROMS, then re-build it so something more stable.... ..... untill (if ever) the SE arrives....
I ran across a post that claimed that this guy had his Xda II running WM2003SE which he got from official sources, but promised not to release it to anyone.
So if this is true, there must be an available upgrade for the Xda II, beta or otherwise.
maybe future rom ver. 1.80 will integrated with SE (I hope) ?
waiting the WM2003SE version....
I thought that O2 announced this ROM as the final rom?? So y r we getting r hopes up.!
...maybe they just meant final as "non beta" version...
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...maybe they just meant final as "non beta" version...
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Which I think they exactly meant.
It *is* "final" as "non-beta", because there clearly can be further updates from MS to Windows Mobile 2003.
I would expect the version that will have no others to follow to be called "the last", or "the last supported" for a device.
Nooop it aint happenin
Unfortunately after my long chat with IMATE I finally got the reply there will be no in any way WM2003se for us but SP3 will come with media player 10 and that is all
Quote:It *is* "final" as "non-beta", because there clearly can be further updates from MS to Windows Mobile 2003.
I read "Final" as this is the last update because we are going to conentrate on the latest phones development.
we can do it, collect the user require upgade the wm2003SE e-mail for O2!!
I just want Media Player 10... They need to come out with SP3 now!
Check this out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=69134#69134
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Guys, we currently have the leaked Sprint ROM, and now there's word out of China that WM 6.1 Pro has been leaked.
Can dcd or someone else take the 2 and combine them into 1 single ROM? Call it the "Leaky ROM(in a good way)".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363050
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363414
note how hard it would be to port the 6.1 rom over, and plus its still just a beta. beta + beta doesnt run well
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note how hard it would be to port the 6.1 rom over, and plus its still just a beta. beta + beta doesnt run well
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Well, extract what .cabs you can(Threaded SMS, potential upgraded PIE, new Live Search, etc) and use those "pieces" to build a ROM with more soild footing then.
this is the only post i will make on this until a release
6.1 can be ported to titan. It has the same structure as 6.0. I've run a really old crappy build myself. The version you are all seeing floating around right now is a 30 day timebomb. Eventually, a non-beta WWE build will be released. After that, eventually it will make it to our device. But... you're going to be waiting longer than you think.
My GUESS is this summer. And from what I've seen so far, I'm not in the big hurry everyone else is.
If you see a WWE ROM with WM6.1, I would think its reasonable to bring it up here. It can be ported and I'll help. But I kind of want to put a stop to the 6.1 talk until then. I will not even attempt to convert the chinese release to WWE. Even if I did, it would mean replacing the language files with old old old WWE versions, and I have not even seen a WWE build containing some of the SYS packages of the chinese build. And some of those packages I hear are required for operation.
Just my 2 cents I guess.
Edit: also, its not made up of cabs. pulling out certain components could be realistic, but I have never been a fan of 'hybrid' builds and wont waste my time with a partial-6.1.
That 2nd link shows 5.2.1238 as the primary version number, that's an old AKU 0.2.3 that's been modified. Either it's a hybrid of old and new (which is silly) or it's just a hex-edited fake (more likely).
The leaked Sprint ROM currently has the latest real release, 5.2.1622 Build 18128.0.4.4.
Even the popular 5.2.19xx versions are betas or fakes, they don't follow the version/build/AKU numbering scheme of real releases.
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That 2nd link shows 5.2.1238 as the primary version number, that's an old AKU 0.2.3 that's been modified. Either it's a hybrid of old and new (which is silly) or it's just a hex-edited fake (more likely).
The leaked Sprint ROM currently has the latest real release, 5.2.1622 Build 18128.0.4.4.
Even the popular 5.2.19xx versions are betas or fakes, they don't follow the version/build/AKU numbering scheme of real releases.
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I think the build youre referring to is actually a hybrid.
The current WM6.1 builds show something like "5.2.19150 Build 19150.1.0.0" - the CE OS is bunk and temporary
The newest WM6 is 5.2.1623 Build 18129.0.4.5
I agree on aku 0.7 ive always been skeptical.
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this is the only post i will make on this until a release
6.1 can be ported to titan. It has the same structure as 6.0. I've run a really old crappy build myself. The version you are all seeing floating around right now is a 30 day timebomb. Eventually, a non-beta WWE build will be released. After that, eventually it will make it to our device. But... you're going to be waiting longer than you think.
My GUESS is this summer. And from what I've seen so far, I'm not in the big hurry everyone else is.
If you see a WWE ROM with WM6.1, I would think its reasonable to bring it up here. It can be ported and I'll help. But I kind of want to put a stop to the 6.1 talk until then. I will not even attempt to convert the chinese release to WWE. Even if I did, it would mean replacing the language files with old old old WWE versions, and I have not even seen a WWE build containing some of the SYS packages of the chinese build. And some of those packages I hear are required for operation.
Just my 2 cents I guess.
Edit: also, its not made up of cabs. pulling out certain components could be realistic, but I have never been a fan of 'hybrid' builds and wont waste my time with a partial-6.1.
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Ah, I was under the impression that there was an English AKU in addition to the Chinese one that was leaked out. Thanks for the clarification and as always you are the central go-to guy for anything cooked Titan ROMs.
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The newest WM6 is 5.2.1623 Build 18129.0.4.5
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I didn't know that, guess I'm a little behind! Where can I find it? Is it a ROM used on a shipping device?
Yeah, AKU 0.7 is definitely fake or beta. As far back as CE 3.x, Microsoft has never had multiple versions of the same AKU. Every AKU has its very own specific build AND version number. That can be confirmed on every existing production CE device so I've never understood why everyone has been so excited about AKU 0.7 for the past 6 months or so.
btw dcd, who's right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1862301&postcount=96
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btw dcd, who's right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1862301&postcount=96
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it is possible in some places to rip apart a rom and make cabs of certain items, but they will be broken in ways, just like the palm threaded app, its broken on any phone that it didnt get shipped with.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363414
what about this guy dcd? itje. maybe try pming him? seems he has an english version hes making into a Kaiser ROM this week
honestly nobody will look into it really till an official release is made. just calm down, and wait
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I didn't know that, guess I'm a little behind! Where can I find it? Is it a ROM used on a shipping device?
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polaris, or for titan you can just take it out of the bell rom i posted earlier.
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itje is a great developer who has sources i dont have and he stated in his thread he cant share. what i should have said earlier is that i wouldnt be including it in my rom unless taken from a ship rom. that doesnt mean it wouldnt show up otherwise. i think pdaviet already released a wwe.
Peeps - There in an Official Kitchen.... It has been released by the FINE folks over at
http://www.ppckitchen.org/
Please check it out....
Thx to all those responsible for this release.... You are very exceptionally talented people to whom we owe a debt a gratitude too.....
What are the advantages/disadvantages of using this kitchen over DCDs 3.0.1?
Isnt this an Apache kitchen?
Looks like the apache kitchen. Which reminds me how slow that PPC used to be. Then last night, I was playing around with the Touch. No keyboard was horrible, but it was so much faster. Didn't suffer from memory problems. If only the Mogul had 128 MB ram...
Titan compatible or NOT?
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Peeps - There in an Official Kitchen.... It has been released by the FINE folks over at
http://www.ppckitchen.org/
Please check it out....
Thx to all those responsible for this release.... You are very exceptionally talented people to whom we owe a debt a gratitude too.....
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Ok, have you used this to build a rom for the titan? it only builds for apache, one good thing though, I'm able to get updated and new oem's which I'm able to use in DCD's kitchen.
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Ok, have you used this to build a rom for the titan? it only builds for apache, one good thing though, I'm able to get updated and new oem's which I'm able to use in DCD's kitchen.
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I have been following this it is supposed to eventually be a universal kitchen for multipple devices, checking it out tonight perhaps they have included the titan now.
Yup, looking at their main page they are thanking No2Chem for the titan kitchen, looking to see if I can find it now, perhaps DCD will be releasing his a compatible version of his kitchen, he and No2Chem seem pretty tight.
EDIT: Not quite ready for Titan yet here is a chat transcript from their chatroom>
<jjlwork> I noticed you are thanking no2chem for the titan kitchen, but i do not see anywhere to d/l throguh the updater, am I missing something?
<naigaman> jjlwork we are working on releasing that soon
So stay tuned!
It looks like a pretty intuitive kitchen, I hope we can get it released for the Titan, but until then DCD all the way.
If you read the full article HERE, You can see the dropdown box for what device your cooking for - I'm assuming there's a Titan device available, as dcd is listed in the credits aswell. In anycase I can't wait to try it tonight when I get home!
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If you read the full article HERE, You can see the dropdown box for what device your cooking for - I'm assuming there's a Titan device available, as dcd is listed in the credits aswell. In anycase I can't wait to try it tonight when I get home!
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Don't waste your time, titan is not an option yet.
Damm, finally got back to my PC after the updater finished and alas....... IT IS NOT FOR THE TITAN.... When I read the read more section, down at the bottom I saw it say No2Chem for Titan Kitchen and bout pissed myself... SORRY to everyone who got too excited by my overzelous post........
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Don't waste your time, titan is not an option yet.
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Damn, that sucks. I went and got all excited... Really the only functionality I want from that is the ability to change the boot & splash screens.
Just recently coming from the 6700/Apache camp I can tell you how much I MISS the Apache kitchen. It was nothing short of a ROM addicts dream...
I got kind of spoiled using the kitchen and the Apache. Yeah, the 6700 was a somewhat limited device compared to the 6800 but it's the Kitchen that really made it compelling and seriously, probably kept it going for so long (and still going...)
Hopefully the Mogul development will eventually get there, but for now you can always dream....
i actually just spoke with gguruUSA and he said that the noChem's titan kitchen has been implemented, but the only delay is with the release of the new official rom, so they're working to make everything compatible. So, hopefully soon we'll be cooking roms apache style.
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i actually just spoke with gguruUSA and he said that the noChem's titan kitchen has been implemented, but the only delay is with the release of the new official rom, so they're working to make everything compatible. So, hopefully soon we'll be cooking roms apache style.
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I don't know if anyone cares, but it seems there is now a version for the Titan.
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I don't know if anyone cares, but it seems there is now a version for the Titan.
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It's No2chem 5060 (very nice), updated PPCGeeks_OEM.rar, and updated Shareware_OEM.rar.
I'm a tech guy. But not when it comes to WinMo in depth. My tech areas are other than PDAs, so forgive me if this sounds rather elementary.
I'm curious about trying one of the WinMo 6.5 builds on my Mogul. BUT! I am lost by this talk of using a "kitchen" and unlocking, etc. etc.
Is there an easy "If you want to try it just as a user" build out there that is easy to install, or am I better just sitting back, and waiting until I upgrade my device when my contract expires in July?
Thanks gang. You guys lose me sometimes with what you discuss, but I enjoy the heck out of it.
David
Try the 21202 Beta 1.0 ROM here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497303
I am using it, and it works quite well. It's still part of the WM 6.5 betas, but it's a well built and functional ROM. TPlane37 will be releasing a new build based on the official WM 6.5 builds soon. No kitchen/cooking necessary - it's all done for you.
And if you haven't ever flashed before, make sure you read the wikis and guides on how to properly unlock your phone.
Thanks, BTB. Unlike my PCs at home, my PDA is something I have to depend on. I can hose a PC and rebuild it, no sweat. But I don't have the same PDA background, even though I am a HUGE believer in them.
I'll re-read the wikis and see what there is on unlocking, but am getting the feeling again I am better waiting until a proper one gets released. I'm chicken **** that way. LOL But I am still open for feedback!
By the way, why 21202 instead of 21501? 21202 says Verizon in the 21202 Beta 1.0.TXT file.
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By the way, why 21202 instead of 21501? 21202 says Verizon in the 21202 Beta 1.0.TXT file.
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21202 is not actually carrier specific. As long as you have the proper carrier cab, you can use it on the provider of your choice. I use it on Alltel for example.
And I am using 21202 instead of the Official 21501 because it's been tweaked. Once TPlane37 releases his next actual build I will definitely upgrade, though.
go to ppc-kitchen.org and DL the program. run all the updates and the if your a techie you will know what to do. you probably want to load a bootloader on your phone first. i use olipro 2.4 ((i think) i havent loaded olipro in a while. For more questions PM me and ill respond asap Howardforums is a good resource too.
i forgot to mention theres alot of programs that you probably dont want on it; you may want to flash it a few times to get the right combo (PS the default windows today plugin is a memory HOG (15 meg on my titan))
Hi everybody,
I was looking around for some informations about getting wm7 for HTC HD2, but I found many results, some of them said that it will, some said not. So, do You know if there will be official update to WM7? If not - will be there any non-official ROMs? I've heard that someone already did it, but I don't know anything more about it.
Thanks
as far as i read there no wp7 for hd2 but its will ported in time by the community here
take a look in the windows phone 7 development forum. Da_G and a few others are actively working ok windows phone 7 with a couple of leak builds.
The other build you saw was never confirmed by the community.
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Hi everybody,
I was looking around for some informations about getting wm7 for HTC HD2, but I found many results, some of them said that it will, some said not. So, do You know if there will be official update to WM7?
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No official update to windows phone 7 is planned at this time.
If not - will be there any non-official ROMs?
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Maybe. It really depends on how compelling the unique features are in wp7 as to whether anyone will feel compelled to work on porting it to the HD2.
I've heard that someone already did it, but I don't know anything more about it.
Thanks
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Someone apparently faked a video at one time showing wp7 ported to an HD2. I think they used the remote desktop app to remote to a PC running some kind of wp7 emulator.
I don't have any links to any of this information. This is just stuff I read somewhere, at sometime but I would imagine you could find the sources if you did a search using the correct search criteria. You know, stuff like "WP7 HD2 faked" and stuff like that.
I 99% sure people will attempt to port window mobile 7 to the HD2.
How successful they'll be will be is uncertain.
That's a pity that HD2 won't get official update. I like this device, and I'm happy owner of it, but personally I think that WM is restriction for this mobile. Somewere it's ugly, and slows down terribly...