I have been preparing to update my 6800 to the DCD roms and I have a few questions:
1.I downloaded the DCD Rom for Verizon but I am confused as to the need or the function of the kitchen rom. Do I need this?
2. where would I get the extra programs (games, adobe reader etc) back from after the update?
I am using the ppcgeeks guide in preperation to update
I have updated all kinds of equipment over the years but never a phone so I am just trying to err on the side of caution.
Thanks
Sporkus
if you use the kitchen to create a rom you can choose to install the entertainment oem (games) and to install adobe pdf reader as well as many other apps.
The kitchen will create a new rom for you so no need to use the precompiled one.
dcd's kitchen is pretty straight forward just follow the instructions
Best advice
Take a couple of hours, and READ, READ, READ these threads ad nauseum!!!
learn from everyone else's mistakes, know what to expect, and how to fix any challenges that come your way before you sweat bullets thinking you've bricked your phone.
jtg
Then read some more...the first flashing is always the bullet sweater... you will flash many many many time after that.
JerrytheGreat said:
Take a couple of hours, and READ, READ, READ these threads an nauseum!!!
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The best advice! The worst mistake one starting out can make is looking for shortcuts and listening to one saying how easy it is, you just have to do this.....It can be easy -- very easy to dig yourself a hole and return seeking help for very familiar issues..
Take the time to learn for yourself, don't limit yourself to a single option, and remember that there is not a single ROM/kitchen to choose from. There are choices ranging from the cuttng edge and experimental, pimped (won't forget that thread), to the relatively mundane that are as stock as possible.
Also, check out the fundamentals in the XDA-Wiki for the Titan.
......We really should have a sticky thread for this upgrading forum to inform the newbies of the generalised basics..
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Hey guys,
I just got my mogul and am just starting to mess around with it. I am looking at custom roms, and would like to understand what they are doing, and eventually figure out how to make my own.
I am having trouble understanding how the rom file works. I downloaded one of dcd's clean rom to have a look at it, but i cant get past the 02_OS.nb file. what is this file, and how do I interpret it? Is there some program that i can use to extract it (if it even works like that)? I found the nbh extractor program on the wiki, but i cant find anything to do with the nb files on the wiki, or through the search function for that matter.
Thanks for any help,
Stuart
Sturatt,
What you are trying to do takes quite a bit of research and lots of getting stuck trying to figure things out. It sounds like you are very new to this and if that is the case I would definately do a lot more reading first. I got into making my own roms based on others roms within kitchens and it took me about a month or two to say I actually understand what I am doing and I still don't know how to do a lot of things.
Anyway if you don't want to spend tons of time messing with roms I would suggest getting a rom that has alrady been built by guys that have tons of knowledge such as DCD's roms, Custels roms, Colonels roms etc. The first two have postings on this forum, there are others at the ppcgeeks forum.
That being said if you do want to spend the time check out http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10401 this is a discussion on what you are trying to do and there are some links to tutorials.
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Sturatt,
What you are trying to do takes quite a bit of research and lots of getting stuck trying to figure things out. It sounds like you are very new to this and if that is the case I would definately do a lot more reading first. I got into making my own roms based on others roms within kitchens and it took me about a month or two to say I actually understand what I am doing and I still don't know how to do a lot of things.
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Start with downloading and learning to install custom pre-made ROMs. Read all relevant material as links to other discussion boards are just about everywhere. With custom ROMs, you can find a base that you like and as you develop your ROM skills, you can take it to the next level by further tweaking a ROM to suit your needs.
Research, some trial & error, make plenty of back-ups and prepare to do some hard resetting!
Awesome, thanks guys. I realize it is going to be pretty tough, but i would rather learn it and understand what is going on, so no i dont mind reading a ton of stuff, i was just having trouble finding the stuff to read.
jjlwork and xweaponx thanks for the good advice. and If anyone else has some good articles/links for a beginner in this area, or anything interesting, please post away! In the mean time ill read that thread you posted, and look for more like it.
Thanks again,
Stuart
Let me know what kind of applications you are looking for or what you would like your phone to do and I will try to get you pointed in the right direction...
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Awesome, thanks guys. I realize it is going to be pretty tough
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not really, just lots of reading and testing things. i never had a ppc before august 07 or so. take it slowly, try one thing at a time.
hi all,
i'm new to the whole WM world....i just got my mogul before new years and i have to say i love it...i have been envisioning the days when computers would be carried in our pockets ever since i got a beeper in high school...now that day is here...
before i ask my questions, i want you guys to know that i am no dummy when it comes to computers...i am a software engineer and have completed and am currently working on multiple government contracts. if i had to declare specialization, i guess i would be considered a J2EE guy....but i'm very sound in theory and can/have adapted to numerous langs and platforms. hopefully, if i get a lull sometime soon, i can contribute to this community.
ok, here we go.
1. what is prl?
2. i remember reading somewhere that something(i want to say it was relocking after flashing a custom ROM) was either not possible or very hard to do with windows vista.....my only windows box is running vista....am i going to run into trouble down the line if i move to DCD's clean wm6.1 rom and want to , say, flash the official sprint release when it drops next month?
3. what is the pagepool? WM version of swapspace?
4. i've read a lot about kitchens and cooking roms, but i'm still missing something....i understand cooking a rom is essentially building an image...but i'm still a little hazy on what the OEMizer is...if i had to guess, it takes normal installs(CABs) and groups them for a post flash install in batch...like the "Sprint Customization" that executes after flashing an official sprint rom....correct?
5. for all you devs and hackers that are putting together custom roms, do you have an emulator/vm for our phones that you test you roms in before flashing?....am i just missing the fact that that is part of a "kitchen"?
i'm sure i'll have more questions in the future, but this is a good starting point...please only answer the questions you KNOW the answers to. no information is better then false information. thanks in advance.
yerp
no takers yet?....
1. A google search for PRL turned up this.
2. I'm running Vista and have no problems. You might need to uncheck the enhanced services bos in USB to PC to be able to sync but other then that I do everything from my Vista box.
3. Another Google search for pagepool turned up this.
4. No. It creates files that able to be used when making a kitchen. This way your programs are in ROM and dont need to be installed again when you hard reset. A search of this forum would have lead to several threads to read about this.
5. Nope. You flash your phone. If it doesn't work you try again.
Please do a little searching on the forums and a lot of reading before you start doing this. It will prevent newb questions and make your life a whole lot easier.
a couple days ago i was asking the same questions.
i have my phone working now, but i didnt bother with vista, i used my dads pc, which was running xp, worked first try without playing with any settings.
thanks for the answers blaze!
sorry for posting Qs that were seemingly so simple to find the answers too, but the disclaimer was in the title...i knew i could find them with some searching, and believe me, i've been reading about this stuff on my free time pretty much non-stop since i got this phone....unfortunately, free time is scarce right about now....
anyways, thanks again....your info/links have saved me tons of time and it is greatly appreciated!
yerp
Ok so i have looked and looked and am lost!!! Can someone point me in the right direction on where to find rom cooking info. I have downloaded a kitchen but im not sure what tool to use??? thanks all
Josh
why not go over to DCD's 2.3.0 thread and read his instructions. If you've already unlocked your phone, then it's a simple double click and fill out some checkboxes, then have a coke and a smile.
I'm trying to figure out what each of the checkboxes means. I'm sure this is documented somewhere, but for some reason it's not in the main post. The main post seems to assume that you've already cooked ROMs before. This is my first HTC (although I've done a lot of Palm ROM editing in the past.)
I just recently jumped on the boat from 6700 to Mogul and cooked my first ROM the other day and let me tell you, it's not easy finding straight forward instructions on how to do it but the info is out there... Your not the first to ask this question and I'm sure you won't be the last... I read around the forum for about 3 days and gathered everything I needed to know... The best thing is that you're nearly forced to read some threads from begining to end which provides a lot of great insight to the underground world of Titan Modding...
My advise is to look around, gather all the info you need and then ask specific questions about the update process... People are more willing to give specific advise as opposed to detailing a step by step...
Best of luck...
Note: I've done a lot of searching on these forums but there is a TON of information, so I just want to get the 'simple' (ha!) explanation of exactly what to do/read since I am a newbie when it comes to using customer ROMS.
I have a 2-month old Verizon XV6800. I am not pleased with the performance, nor with not having WM 6.1, GPS, and other things. That is why I am interested in doing a custom ROM.
Therefore, can someone give me the thread and/or info on exactly what I need and the procedure to FLASH a custom ROM to my XV6800? I've seen a lot of items regarding Sprint and others, but I want the instructions for doing this with the XV6800. There seems to be a lot of pieces I need to do, and I am curious exactly what I will end up with.
Again, this may already have been explained completely in another thread, so maybe I just need to be pointed there. However, I would really be happy if it relates directly to the XV6800.
Thanks! Any info appreciated.
Tom (Chimp)
Current Config:
XV6800 (Stock)
WM 6.0
ROM 2.09.605.8
Radio v.1.30.60
Don't read much do ya... Third thread in this forum. Go to the Wiki Page and read the tutorial on upgrading your ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388596
lllboredlll said:
Don't read much do ya... Third thread in this forum. Go to the Wiki Page and read the tutorial on upgrading your ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388596
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Nice guy - for folks who have yet to upgrade, there is definitely too much information out there, making it difficult for some to truly find what they need to do. Its not about not reading - its about sifting through all the crap that you can read.
OP - check out the titan wiki thread:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Titan
Its a good starting point.
Read the link in my signature
It will make your life 10x easier.
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Nice guy - for folks who have yet to upgrade, there is definitely too much information out there, making it difficult for some to truly find what they need to do. Its not about not reading - its about sifting through all the crap that you can read.
OP - check out the titan wiki thread:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Titan
Its a good starting point.
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Well I will have to stand firm on this topic. There was a thread specifically created for newcomers to read. It's stickied and says "NEED HELP?? LOOKING FOR GUIDES?? NEW?? Read the XDA-Wiki for the Titan before posting" If you can't navigate yourself that far into this forum then chances are you don't need to even consider flashing your phone at this point. Yes there is tons of info to sift thru but it don't get much easier than that thread shows. Problem is, most people dont want to take the effort it takes to look first. It's easier to create a thread and ask where to look even though the developers have taken TONS of time to build guides and wiki pages to avoid the standard everyday questions.
lllboredlll said:
Well I will have to stand firm on this topic. There was a thread specifically created for newcomers to read. It's stickied and says "NEED HELP?? LOOKING FOR GUIDES?? NEW?? Read the XDA-Wiki for the Titan before posting" If you can't navigate yourself that far into this forum then chances are you don't need to even consider flashing your phone at this point. Yes there is tons of info to sift thru but it don't get much easier than that thread shows. Problem is, most people dont want to take the effort it takes to look first. It's easier to create a thread and ask where to look even though the developers have taken TONS of time to build guides and wiki pages to avoid the standard everyday questions.
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Ever notice how the stickies are never bold, but new posts are? Kind of pulls your eyes away from the top.
Ya I noticed. You ever notice when you don't take time to read first you find yourself asking questions that have been answered numerous times?
Well, trust me, I took time to read - pulled a lot of stuff into my Evernote file just to have it. But again, with so much info around, and the fact that you are messing around with the firmware of your phone (and can maybe brick it!) I'd rather ask to be sure before I start doing anything. Some of the info was 'general' in nature, and I wanted to make sure what I was reading was XV6800 specific (or at least as specific as possible).
OK, another question: I know there is a new Verizon XV6800 firmware update coming out (soon hopefully?) - if you were me, would you wait for this new update? Or go ahead and flash to one in here? It seems that dcd's updates are better and faster - at least from what I read.
Finally, is there any specific ROM that works better for the XV6800?
Tom (Chimp)
SimpTheChimp said:
Well, trust me, I took time to read - pulled a lot of stuff into my Evernote file just to have it. But again, with so much info around, and the fact that you are messing around with the firmware of your phone (and can maybe brick it!) I'd rather ask to be sure before I start doing anything. Some of the info was 'general' in nature, and I wanted to make sure what I was reading was XV6800 specific (or at least as specific as possible).
OK, another question: I know there is a new Verizon XV6800 firmware update coming out (soon hopefully?) - if you were me, would you wait for this new update? Or go ahead and flash to one in here? It seems that dcd's updates are better and faster - at least from what I read.
Finally, is there any specific ROM that works better for the XV6800?
Tom (Chimp)
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Yeah... check out my signature line. I have them linked. Welcome to the furums!
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SimpTheChimp said:
Well, trust me, I took time to read - pulled a lot of stuff into my Evernote file just to have it. But again, with so much info around, and the fact that you are messing around with the firmware of your phone (and can maybe brick it!) I'd rather ask to be sure before I start doing anything. Some of the info was 'general' in nature, and I wanted to make sure what I was reading was XV6800 specific (or at least as specific as possible).
OK, another question: I know there is a new Verizon XV6800 firmware update coming out (soon hopefully?) - if you were me, would you wait for this new update? Or go ahead and flash to one in here? It seems that dcd's updates are better and faster - at least from what I read.
Finally, is there any specific ROM that works better for the XV6800?
Tom (Chimp)
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use dcd 3.2.5 and radio 3.42.30... that would be the most current configuration
and no I don't think waiting will be worth it....once you start flashing your phone you will end up like the rest of us who are known to flash multiple times a week or even a day trying new stuff....so if you feel like you're ready then take the plunge
quick notes:
unlock with olipro 2.40 or nuespl 2.47
flash radio via your sd card
flash rom via ruu or sd
Cool, I will try this next week.
BTW, if I have to take the phone back to Verizon for any reason, I can re-flash the original ROM back onto the system, correct?
And finally, what is the 'chance' that I could brick the phone entirely doing this?
Tom (Chimp)
SimpTheChimp said:
Cool, I will try this next week.
BTW, if I have to take the phone back to Verizon for any reason, I can re-flash the original ROM back onto the system, correct?
And finally, what is the 'chance' that I could brick the phone entirely doing this?
Tom (Chimp)
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Follow the Wiki Tutorial. It should answer your questions.
Titan Recent
Here's the WIKI on downgrading back to stock...
Stock Wiki
SimpTheChimp said:
Cool, I will try this next week.
BTW, if I have to take the phone back to Verizon for any reason, I can re-flash the original ROM back onto the system, correct?
And finally, what is the 'chance' that I could brick the phone entirely doing this?
Tom (Chimp)
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Just make sure you go thru the steps as they are laid out.
You will have to run titanrelocker and then flash the OEM ROM and Radio to return
hi all,
so ive been using pdas for a few years now, had a kaiser loved it learned loads ie how to flash different roms to it apps etc great stuff,
moved over to the touch pro, wow amazing device again rand some roms on it found one i loves (we miss you Romeos!)
now im deciding that i want to learn a little more about the under the hood actions in terms of cooking, the os, all the weird terms ive read in different posts which totally overwhelms me with info,
now allot of people will say "search the forums" which indeed is the way i need to go, my only problem is working out where to begin, again the wiki is a great place to start, but unsure of what to read up and understand first
could some one give me a few pointers, i come from an IT background mainly networking but have done a few different things so im pretty confident i can pick it up quite quickly (i run linux at home at managed to pick it up really quickly)
so my question is. for some one trying to learn about the operating system in terms of cooking one for them selves, where would be the best place to start?
if any one of you amazingly gifted people could point me in the right place that would be amazing,
thank you very much
mousey
Download a kitchen and start playing. I used Proven kitchen the first time. It was very easy to use. I have also used Da_G's kitchen. Again, very easy to use and both contain many packages to get you started. It's just a matter of playing with the options then.
thanks for that yeah am now looking to do that however i was looking for maybe threads discussing it i see things like aku mentioned and builds etc and dont really understand, im a reader and like to read up and understand technical info before playing however sometimes you just need to do it so will take your point
thanks
@annonymouse:
I assume you have a GSM Raphael. I would suggest starting with the following Wiki page(s):
HTC Raphael
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael
I started off with the following kitchen:
Da_G's Simple ROM Kitchen
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Da_G's Simple ROM Kitchen
I put a tutorial together for that kitchen to help other newcomers "ramp up" quickly. The tutorial includes several links to important threads that will help you get better acquainted with some of the aspects of Windows Mobile.
HTH,
hi thanks for the links ive read the wiki page earlier but am at work so mearly glossed however thats not enough so will sit at home and divulge,
will also check the link out for the kitchen
thanks allot i appreciate the help