I've seen a post or two saying that it isn't possible to put the wm6.1 rom on the US sda. Is this true? If so, why? How is the US version -that- different?
us sda isn't hurricane device. you must search on tornado or typhoon category
So which is it then? A tornado, or a typhoon?
you must look in settings->about
if you have cpu ompa 730 - it will be typhoon, if 850 - tornado
Maybe you can find it here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_pocketpc_smartphone.php3
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Hi there,
A close friend has recently upgraded to a new phone, and passed me her xda. It's currently got the following:
ROM Version: 3.12.07 ENG
ROM date: 08/13/02
Radio version: 4.06
Protocol version 32S54
Model No.: PW10A1
I've just downloaded the lastest ROMS from myxda.com (3.20.06 ENG, 07/30/03, Radio: 4.21, Protocol: 32S54), and am just about to flash my unit.
I don't have an SD card, should I try to get one before I do? (There is no data in the xda yet, I just got it a week ago). What'd be a 'good capacity' to get?
Besides the 'official' rom above, which would be the best rom to install onto the xda? I'm very keen on having IIWPO, but am a little daunted by all the options available out there. (And if applicable, please advise on the 'best' PPC2002 and PPC2003 versions).
Should i be looking at 'alternative' radio stacks, or is 4.21 good? Would be nice to have the option to switch between GSM900/1800/1900, but it's not very necessarry. (I'm gussing this is controlled by the radiostack, and not the ROM?). My current region uses GSM900/1800. I do occassionally travel to the US
Advice please? Thank you!
Your phone is capable only of 900/1800 so will not work in the usa on 1900 band. I would suggest leaving your radio stack alone if it works ok as 4.21 seemed to break more than it fixed. The sd card method of upgrading is a much better way of doing things in my opinion. You can use the bootloader to backup your existing windows ce then you can flash a new rom from the kitchen and if not happy you can restore your system, this isnt the case with radio stacks so be very careful about radio upgrades. xdatools gives you a heap of options for backing up, reading, writing, storing etc of rom images. The original idea for rom flashing by programmers was partially to do with the fact that there is lots of unused/wasted space in the rom area, the developers decided to write lots of useful programs to the unused space which makes the xda a super pda/phone instead of a mediocre pda/phone.
Thanks for your reply; however, I was quite excited about the modem capability, and have since installed the 4.21 radio stack. Am not sure what the issues are, but I probably won't notice, having no prior experience with the unit.
Been playing with it for most of today, and must say it's very interesting. There is a whole slew of sofware most kitchens carry, that I have no idea where to even begin!
Would it be correct to say if I cooked a rom with only 'theft protection' checked, and everything else turned off, it would be the same as the 'original' rom that was released? Would like to learn more about the xda before venturing into the powertoys
The question I have however is: How do I choose which BaseROM to use?
In Lumpistefans ROMkitchen, I see:
WM2003 -
4.01.16 ENG
4.01.19 GER (default)
A.30.09 ENG
Whats the difference between each of the above? Does O2, or O2asia have a WM2003 release yet? It would appear some of these ROMs, once installed, cant be downgraded without an SD card - which are these? Or at least, that is the impression I get when browsing these forums. Can I replace them with the same version cooked rom? (just so that i won't get caught in a bind experimenting with the theft protection)
PPC2002 -
3.17.03 ENG O2-Euro (default)
3.19.01 GER O2
I currently have 3.20.06 ENG from 02asia,which seems to be a newer version than in the kitchen. Should i try to extract mine, and send it to the kitchen (that is if they take uploads/contributions)?
If I wanted to build my own kitchen, where do I start? I do already have access to a linux box that runs a webserver and supports php. Been searching all over but cannnot seem to figure where to download the kitchen scripts (a direct URL please?). Am actually interested in creating my own custom boot screen (THIS PDA IS MINE! - with a picture of me :lol
Other misc questions:
If I wanted to 'zero' the total in/outgoing calls? Do I need the serial cable with xda manipulator? Could someone point me to a circuit dragram where i can wire my own serial cable if that is the case, or is there some other way to do it now? Can I still do this having upgraded my radiostack to 4.21? or did i just lose the chance to do so?
Is the headphone connector similar to any other mobile phones? (eg: can I use a nokia, or motorola handsfree?) or is it propietary?
xdagirl said:
The question I have however is: How do I choose which BaseROM to use?
In Lumpistefans ROMkitchen, I see:
WM2003 -
4.01.16 ENG
4.01.19 GER (default)
A.30.09 ENG
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4.01.16 is the offical WM2003 release from T-mobile. It's the same as the 4.01.00 Beta. As some mates here reported some issues in this ROM, I 'm still using the 4.01.00 with no problems at all.
The 4.01.19 is obviously for the German devices. The 30.09 is a very good stable ROM from AT&T except that it has a very silly sound issue that kept many from using it
xdagirl said:
If I wanted to build my own kitchen, where do I start? I do already have access to a linux box that runs a webserver and supports php. Been searching all over but cannnot seem to figure where to download the kitchen scripts (a direct URL please?). Am actually interested in creating my own custom boot screen (THIS PDA IS MINE! - with a picture of me )
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You may PM Stephan to get his advice, but if it's only for a customized boot image, I believe there is a special tool for that can be used with the .nbf file before flashing.
xdagirl said:
If I wanted to 'zero' the total in/outgoing calls? Do I need the serial cable with xda manipulator? Could someone point me to a circuit dragram where i can wire my own serial cable if that is the case, or is there some other way to do it now? Can I still do this having upgraded my radiostack to 4.21? or did i just lose the chance to do so?
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I think this thread is good
xdagirl said:
Is the headphone connector similar to any other mobile phones? (eg: can I use a nokia, or motorola handsfree?) or is it propietary?
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It's propietary, but you can get an adaptor to allow you using any standard Nokia headset ... check Expansys
Thanks Biso, hadn't realised there were 2 seperate timers, and I was originally looking at settings-device information, and could't find the 'reset' button.
But now, I'm back with a little situation...
Spent some time reading the board, and learnt about the differences between the PW10A1 (900/1800), and the PW10B1 (900/1900). The little I did figure out is not to muck with the 'other' radio stack, and stick with 4.21 (my unit is from asia...)
However, I didn't quite realise the ROMS were different too. So, right now, my PW10A1 has a 'b' WM2003 firmware in it. No big problem, except when I wander into settings-phone-band, I'm forced to choose either 900 or 1900 where I then I lose network coverage.
I did try the bandswitch tool but that didn't work - I basically have to reset into the bootloader and select 900/1800 there. :x
The only place I can find to cook ROMs right now is Lumpistefans ROMkitchen, and the little I've learnt so far is
4.01.16 ENG - PW10B1
A.30.09 ENG - PW10B1 (I prefer this over 4.0.16 ENG)
Yes, there is a whole slew of threads on how to get Bs back to A, and As back to B. I'll go do that as soon as I figure out which are the A roms.
So, the newbie question I have is : How do I know which roms are PW10A1 and which roms are PW10B1?
Also, are there any other (public) kitchens out there? I can't get to the one on yorch.net.
Finally, when I do ever get down to setting up my own private kitchen, would it be possible to directly modify the base ROM, and change B roms to A? (ie: A.30.09 ENG becomes a PW101A1 rom, and settings-phone-band would show 900/1800 instead? or at least hide that menu item?)
There is no connection between the ROM version and the device type .. you can use any ROM with A or B device ... However, with A devices, you should never touch the band selector found in 4.01.xx ROMs as it was released by T-mobile for US regions (900/1900) ... but it works perfectly for 900/1800 as long as you have the proper RSU.
In general, always refer to the rear sticker to get the device type and forget what's written in the device info ... of course if the mother board is still the original.
A30.09 should be a very good and stable ROM except its sound bug, that's why I consider 4.01.00 is the 2nd best for now.
These are very good kitchens:
http://xda.weblink.net/
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
Finally, when I do ever get down to setting up my own private kitchen, would it be possible to directly modify the base ROM, and change B roms to A? (ie: A.30.09 ENG becomes a PW101A1 rom, and settings-phone-band would show 900/1800 instead? or at least hide that menu item?)
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A30.09 doesn't have a band selector as it has auto band switching interface with the RSU, and with your own kitchen I dont' think you will be able to modify such basic feature like the band selector ... you can barely add some addtional s/w to the ROM space ... which doesn't justify building your kitchen for just changing the device type displayed.
Good luck ...
Hi ,
i've a SX 56 (AT&T wireless) which i updated with ROM verion 3.17.03 ENG. But i have not been able to connect to the Eplus network so far. I used the bandswitch application to switch the frequency to 900/1800. Slip in a T-mobile card and it works without any issues! Has any1 been able to connect to the eplus network?! If yes (hopefully) , do let me know !
thanx
cheers
/a
What for a device you have? Take a look at the sticker back on the device... Mus be something like PW10....
Which radio version have you installed on your device? (start -> settings -> system ->device information)
not 100% sure, but i thought that the sx56 was only for the us market with 900/1900 Mhz.
900/1900 MHz has modell number PW10B with radiostack 6.x
900/1800 MHz has modell number PW10A with radiostack 4.x or 3.x
If it is a PW10A-Modell you can try entering bootloader and setting gsm to 900/1800.
if it is a PW10B-Modell you don't have any chance to get it working with Eplus.
HTH
Stefan
Hi ,
the model is PW10B1(sticker @ the back of the device) , but the device info says PW10A1 which is probably because of the rom (3.17.03 ENG)
The radiostack version is 6.12. As we speak, i m downloading a 4.x verion from your rom kitchen! but i guess i can close shop and start thinking about changing my provider ! ;-) So i guess there is no chance of changing the radio version right ?
thanx
/a
pacorama said:
Hi ,
the model is PW10B1(sticker @ the back of the device) , but the device info says PW10A1 which is probably because of the rom (3.17.03 ENG)
The radiostack version is 6.12. As we speak, i m downloading a 4.x verion from your rom kitchen! but i guess i can close shop and start thinking about changing my provider ! ;-) So i guess there is no chance of changing the radio version right ?
thanx
/a
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Hard to say, but you're right. There is no chance of changing radio version. The limitation of 900/1900 MHz networks is a hardwareproblem, so you have no possibility (maybe some soldering) to get your device working.
The device info of the system is just a name. Depending on which rom installed it will show you PW10A or PW10B. So the sticker at the back of the device says the true....
You can only get it working with the 900 MHz providers (T-Mobile and Vodafone in Germany).
A few days ago t-mobile got an offer of the MDA I for about 30 Euro with a new contract....
So if changing the provider why not getting a new device with more memory...
HTH
PS: If you want to sell the device and you make a good price, maybe i'm interested in it....
hi stefan,
unfortunately i can't sell it coz it's my company device ! i'll just have 2 give it back and get something new!
thanx anyways
cheers
/a
1. Is O2 XDA is the same models like Siemens SX65 AT&T wirelles?
http://www.pdagold.com/hardware/detail.asp?d=124
.: Extra info & Model comparison
Sold in Central Europe as O2 XDA by O2
SIM-free O2 XDA sold by Expansys
Sold in North America as Siemens SX56 by AT&T
Sold in Sweden as Qtek 1010, previously known as Joey
Sold in several countries as T-Mobile MDA by T-Mobile
2. When i download upgrade in http://www.my-xda.com/xda_soft.html and i install to my PDA Siemens SX65 AT&T, now my PDA doesn't have any signal event i change my SIM Card??
this is the name file : Radio_Stack_Upgrade_v421 and Radio_Unit_Upgrade_v31703, when i download Radio_Stack_Upgrade_v421 then after restart, my PDA is no signal, so i don't continue to install Radio_Unit_Upgrade_v31703.
Note: when i install, my sim card still plug-in.
the network only :
ST-GSM-SGP
ST-GSM1800-SGP
Globe
AIS GSM
OPTUS
AirTel
SPICE
dont have TELKOMSEL (indonesia).
Can u help me to fixed my PDA,???
What model do you have? Check the rar sticker...
PW10A are for 900/1800 MHz
PW10B are for 900/1900 MHz
Stefan
different name
LumpiStefan said:
What model do you have? Check the rar sticker...
PW10A are for 900/1800 MHz
PW10B are for 900/1900 MHz
Stefan
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opps...thank for your advice, now i have different name in my PDA, in the sticker label is PW10B1 and in my device information Identity the model no is PW10A1... ehm? i need your advice again to fixed my siemens PDA, thank you..
gohengky said:
opps...thank for your advice, now i have different name in my PDA, in the sticker label is PW10B1 and in my device information Identity the model no is PW10A1... ehm? i need your advice again to fixed my siemens PDA, thank you..
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Different names are no problem.
It depends on what rear sticker say. So you have a PW10B device. Tehreforen 4.xx Radio Versions do not work try the 6.xx
Also you have to ensure your provider works either on 900 or 1900 MHz....
Stefan
LumpiStefan said:
Different names are no problem.
It depends on what rear sticker say. So you have a PW10B device. Tehreforen 4.xx Radio Versions do not work try the 6.xx
Also you have to ensure your provider works either on 900 or 1900 MHz....
Stefan
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Mr. Stefan..
i am confused.., ehm, so i must try 4.xx radio vers if doesn't work so i must try 6.xx , were i can found it?? http://www.romkitchen.de/ or where ... please help me, replace PW10A1 to PW10B1 again ..
now my device information after i change is :
bootloader V5.22
rom vers : 3.17.03 ENG
rom date : 05/15/03
radio vers : 4.21.00
Protocol vers : 32S54
Model no .: PW10A1
Platform : pocket PC
Is that correct ??
my sim card is TELKOMSEL - indonesia , GSM Dual Band (900 & 1800),
http://www.telkomsel.com/web/company_profile
Dear Mr. Stefan,
i really need advice ...
thank you.
PW10B devices require 6.xx RSU-Version. You should You should then also fix the bandwith to 900 MHz in Bootloader
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ChangingBandsWithBootloader
RSU Version can be found on www.romkitchen.de/tools/
The displaying of PW10A in your system depends on the ROM and is complete unimportant.....
Stefan
now is fixed
LumpiStefan said:
PW10B devices require 6.xx RSU-Version. You should You should then also fix the bandwith to 900 MHz in Bootloader
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ChangingBandsWithBootloader
RSU Version can be found on www.romkitchen.de/tools/
The displaying of PW10A in your system depends on the ROM and is complete unimportant.....
Stefan
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Dear Mr. Stefan
Thanks for your advice, now my PDA Siemens SX65 AT&T is work again, But i am not follow your instruction..i use the other way..now i want to share my step to fixed my PDA :
1. Download Radio Unit 6.24 version, find at : http://www.yorch.net/ ---go to --- http://www.yorch.net/upgrades.htm
USA T-mobile Latest Radio Stack (Unofficial)
RU 6.24.00
2. Install RU 6.24.00 in to your PDA,put in /windows find in Windows Explorer.
3. Wait for a second, and then will search the network...
4. Success.....
my device information is PW10A1 and not PW10B1 (the label in the back pda) how come is still can work?? But,anyway its Ok,because my phone is work again..
Thank you for your advice Mr. LumpiStefan.
That is very interesting.I like it very much.where can i find it?
________________________________
Rm files
to : mukojin776
you can find at : http://www.yorch.net/ but i dont recommend you to modify your phone, if you have commitment, than do it.. and i am not & dont have responsible if your phone is death..
You can ask Mr. Lumpistefan advice if you want to upgrade or modify your phone.
Enjoy your explore...
Thank you.
How to use SX56 with Airtel(India)?
AirTel (India)? what happen with that? if your XDA (SX56) can work, so??? what do mind by that? your phone is blocked??or doesn't have signal?? can explain about that??
I want to update my T-Mobile SDA Music to WM6.1. But i'm not sure if it's a Typhoon or a Hurricane? Everything i read on the net said it should be a Hurricane, but the bootloader says it's a Typhoon. It's from Germany.
Thanks
check what CPU do you have "Settings->About"
omap 730 - typhoon
omap 750 - hurricane
omap 730, it's a typhoon. Thanks for that
Little bit late on this,but if you boot it to bootloader it should say on the screen,also is it a uk sda ll?
Anybody konws it?Where to find it?There is already offical upgrade for niki.
Thanks.
Neon comes with WM6.1 on it
Tim4 said:
Neon comes with WM6.1 on it
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Not with Neon200 which is the Australian version of Neon
I found the WM6.1 Rom upgrade in the HTC HK english site.
Whilst the Neon200 supports 850 band, do you think that the HK rom will stop the 850 band all together?