Can Android possibly run now with No2Chem 2.1 5066? - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

With No2Chem's hard work, my Mogul now boots with 28 megs of free ram after installing build 5066. Is there any chance that Android might boot on our phones without the need for a SD driver?

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Windows Mobile 2005 for XDAII and 2.20.07

is there any good version of WM 2005? i mean it will not only detect 30MB ram but 125MB ram....... can give me the link? what is the difference between the WM 2003se 2.20.00 and 2.20.07??
Ive said this before, please read it..
WM2005 doesnt detect 30 or 32meg ram, it detects all 128meg of it. It just doesnt use it. at all. Not a bit. Nothing. Nadda.
The missing ram is not a bug, its not a problem its a DESIGN FEATURE of wm2005.
WM2005 uses ENTIRELY FLASH. this is to prevent data loss in the event of battery failure. New wm2005 devices will have much larger flash storage so this isnt going to be a problem.
The fact that the memory program shows the flash being used for running program memory as well as storage says that wm2005 DOES NOT use ram for programs at all. I expect ms will drop ram from the future spec for devices in order to lower chip count and simplify designs.
The 32meg OS memory holds the windows ROM, its write protected. no way to edit it live.
the 32meg DiskOnChip holds the Storage and Extrom, these are partitione d in some way to 2 roughly 16meg sections.
WM uses the storage partition for storage, Duh. It maps it over the windows directory and all file changes and additions are put in there.
the ExtRom directory is used for running program memory. It kills the extrom.
Remember that due to the way MS cant count, differences in the way they measure Bytes, kilibytes etc (1000 or 1024 people?) and filesystem overhead the numbers wont add up exactly at the end. But trust me, unless anyone can PROVE me wrong, this is what happens.
It may be possible to make use of the ram as a storage disk, but a custom ramdisk program would have to be written.
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oh ya hw about WM 2003 SE version 2.20.07? is it translated version? is the fonts like very rough?? the WM 2005 safe to use?

Navigon MN6 & WM6

I've been trying MN6 on WM5 and WM6 and I've done several cronos (boot time) with and without overclock, the results are:
MN6 on WM5: 45 secs
MN6 on WM6 without overclock: 1:30 secs (min.)
MN6 on WM with 244mhz overclock: 1:23 (min)
Free mem on WM5: around 24mb
Free mem on Wm6: around 21-22mb
Why this difference between these times? why on WM6 MN6 get the double of time to boot?
My rom is Prophet Touch 7
it suppose to be faster in WM6 as microsoft release notes
like in PC, when jumping from Windows me to XP to vista, the PC will be slower.
the programs run slower cause the windows has more functions in the core, I'm sure it has more functions, so if the program may need some times to load the system files and run into memory,
I think the program now searchs in more memory (system files loaded in momery and ROM)
if you try 6 mb pp it will release more program memory but it will be slower to read the ROM, but 4.5 mb pp size is enough, so 6mb is great
Chopin said:
it suppose to be faster in WM6 as microsoft release notes
like in PC, when jumping from Windows me to XP to vista, the PC will be slower.
the programs run slower cause the windows has more functions in the core, I'm sure it has more functions, so if the program may need some times to load the system files and run into memory,
I think the program now searchs in more memory (system files loaded in momery and ROM)
if you try 6 mb pp it will release more program memory but it will be slower to read the ROM, but 4.5 mb pp size is enough, so 6mb is great
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Ok, I can understand, but: why the double!! hehehe it's too much difference. I've done the try with 12mb and with 6mb of pagepool (zei v2 and touch 7) with similar results...

WM5torage or Card Export w/ New Rom

Can anyone confirm or deny that either of the two programs work with the brand new rom?
They didn't with 3.27. There also is a newer version of Card Export out now.
Still not working for me on the official 3.35 ROM. I'd love to get this fixed. That was an essential feature for me and it sucks not having it.
Were you referring to Card Export II 3.08 or WM5torage?
both....
I was running Card Export 3.06, so when I saw your post I was hoping 3.08 would work. Installed it and still no love. This sucks.
Edit: I submitted a bug report at Softick's website. Here's hoping for a resolution
WM5torage 1.75 works with the new rom.
Not working for me. Did you do anything special? What ROM are you running? I'm on the official Sprint 3.35 release.
Also posted at PPCGeeks,
For those interested in Card Export/WM5torage:
I don't know about everyone else, but the ability to use my phone as a flash drive for transfering files is a huge advantage for me. Activesynce/WMDC blows, and is not installed on every computer. Since the update to 3.XX ROMs, neither of these programs has worked (at least for me). I've been in touch with Softick (makers of Card Export) and I think we will have a solution soon. I've run some debug programs for them and they have developed a working version. Not sure when the final release will be, but hopefully soon. I was amazed at how responsive their team was. The day after I emailed them, the developer was in contact with me. I ran some debug programs, and the next day he had a working test version for me to try. Really awesome to see them working that quickly to develop a fix. If I hear anything about the final release I'll post again. Just thought some people might want to know.
atomclock said:
WM5torage 1.75 works with the new rom.
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is this inaccurate information??
i have both working on dcd 3.01 rom with the new 3.35 radio. I also discovered a way to unhide the extrom in dcd's kitchen and without the bug that happens when u follow this links suggestion : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ghlight=EXTRom
I have the phone recognize my extrom as a Mounted Volume or a harddrive for a lack of a better term. This means that since it is recognized as other than an extension of the primary, u could get files to treat it like a 2nd harddrive, maybe have a two OS's installed at 1 time. ( wm5 and then wm6 ) just boot into which 1 u want to use. or im working on trying to get the WM^ to treat it like a swap file for extra 10mb of memory. swap files r treated just like system memory by the Operating system.
any how u just have to make some reg changes and u are in business
bunvilla said:
i have both working on dcd 3.01 rom with the new 3.35 radio. I also discovered a way to unhide the extrom in dcd's kitchen and without the bug that happens when u follow this links suggestion : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ghlight=EXTRom
I have the phone recognize my extrom as a Mounted Volume or a harddrive for a lack of a better term. This means that since it is recognized as other than an extension of the primary, u could get files to treat it like a 2nd harddrive, maybe have a two OS's installed at 1 time. ( wm5 and then wm6 ) just boot into which 1 u want to use. or im working on trying to get the WM^ to treat it like a swap file for extra 10mb of memory. swap files r treated just like system memory by the Operating system.
any how u just have to make some reg changes and u are in business
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would you care to further explain exactly how you got wm5torage and card export working on dcd's 3.01 rom with the new 3.35 radio? cause i jus tried both on the same rom and it's a no go for me, using the computer operating system windows XP. i have seen them work in linux.
well first i have the security and encryption off/ second, my version of both those progs are cracked, so they have been altered and third i thinks got something to do with the fact that i use QPST program which i have both 6700 and 6800 usb drivers on my phone. i use the 6700 usb drivers for that program and possibly thats what is making those programs work. U know because i havent had a problem with them i never thought about it./ but i couldnt but a 100 percent sure, but it would be my best guess. besides from my last post u can see that i have been messing with my extrom in which i use the 2 progs to help me with
how'd u get the 6700 usb drivers on your phone? u cooked it in using dcd's kitchen? where'd u get the 6700 drivers from? the apache kitchen??
card export II seemed to work w/ linux for me (did an "ls" to see the directory listing), However, when used with Server 2003 (my regular desktop that has activesync), it mounted itself, but when I went to see the drive, it was empty.
exactly the same for me. works in linux...and is visible but empty in windows. wonder how bunvilla got it to work. he's the only one so far that's been able to get them working.
says the drivers from the 6700 is on his 6800...sounds very likely to work that way but.....wonder how he got the drivers from the 6700??
Hopefully they will figure out something soon. This program is really helpful.
i want to make sure we are on the same page ok. When i use that program I only have access to my SD card. I cant access my phone folders. So when im at work and i want to save something to my sd card i turn on Card Export II 3.08 and then the little green light comes on and in a minute it shows up when i click "my computer" icon. But u know something ever since i changed the extrom to Mounted Volume ( no i didnt just rename the Extrom to Mounted Volume) it shows up too as a little 9mb removeable drive right below my Sd card.
so in the main directory there are 2 extra removable drives that shows up, and the only thing i can think of is my SDcard is formatted fat32.
Oh and by the way i didnt extract the 6700 usb drivers from a 6700 phone, i got them from a website and i rename my usb drvs for the 6800 and use the 6700 usb drvs and then switch when im done.
someone told me that i was doing it the hard way but it works for me. hope this helps some,
there are those times when stuff jus doesnt work for everyone else. sound like a lucky dude and congrats...cause NO ONE else can get it to work. not even the company who created the program. they're supposed to be working on a fix now.
well u know something else that i have that nobody else seems to have is the extrom , on my version of DCD' 3.01 everyone else seem to have issues with that too. at best they get extrom and extrom2 showing up when they use No2chem unlock extrom in the root directory of thier phone. I include a thumb shot of my root and u will see that i not only fixed that issue i also have the extrom show up as a removable drive and it changed from extrom to Mounted Volume and i didnt rename it that, it happened because of the reg edits i made and flashdrv.dll i used. im surprised that doesnt get your curiosity. I can both read and write to it, might even be able to add it to the pagepool. im working it right so i will let u know if i succeed .
WM5torage 1.8 hacked version working
Hey all. Found this on one of the kaiser forums.
I can verify that I have successfully used this cab on my sprint mogul with OLD stock rom 2.17
The steps required are as follows:
1.Install hacked cab below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=69221&d=1202300677
2.Soft Reset
3.Click yes to install card export and then OK to error messages
4.Open WM5torage and disable rndis
Note:According to thread, this will not work if you have ever installed card export on your system. Not sure why
Note 2: I am using 512microsd card with stock rom. I am about to reflash (for a change) and will repost later with my custom rom based on new 3.35
-Josh
bunvilla said:
well u know something else that i have that nobody else seems to have is the extrom , on my version of DCD' 3.01 everyone else seem to have issues with that too. at best they get extrom and extrom2 showing up when they use No2chem unlock extrom in the root directory of thier phone. I include a thumb shot of my root and u will see that i not only fixed that issue i also have the extrom show up as a removable drive and it changed from extrom to Mounted Volume and i didnt rename it that, it happened because of the reg edits i made and flashdrv.dll i used. im surprised that doesnt get your curiosity. I can both read and write to it, might even be able to add it to the pagepool. im working it right so i will let u know if i succeed .
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it gets my curisoty as well. one thing i have to say is it appears your level of geekiness is definitely a step above mines. u're a smart guy man. would be nice if you could maybe dump that rom of yours for us and maybe create a bunvilla's rom based off dcd's 3.01 with wm5torage and a mountable extrom working. im almost certain it would get a substantial amount of users.

possible memory saver???

hey all, I was poking around some kitchens trying to figure out how these devices work, and I was wondering if cooking oems into a rom puts them into the xip thus saving on running program memory as apposed to installing the cabs later. From what I understand, programs in xip execute in place, and are not loaded into ram. if this is correct, would that not be the #1 benefit of cooking your own rom?
I'm not very familiar with cooking roms and how applications are launched, but I can't see any way of launching an application or process without it being in ram. Storage is for storing files and ram is for running them.
these devices use what is called xip, stands for execute in place, allows programs to be ran from the rom, not the ram, I am just wondering if this is only true of programs in rom, or if programs installed after also utilize the xip feature
only ROM. xip images are fixed to a particular place in memory, which regular executables are not.
The #1 benefits of cooking roms is getting rid of carrier crap, newer possibly less buggy OS builds, building in your own customizations, and for many older devices you get to utilize otherwise unusable storage.

Problem with memory in hd2

Hello,
I want to ask about storage memory which one after installing the ardemis radio, no i have total 58,92MB starge emory and free 9,25MB. What wrong with them ? I think that the storage memory is more in HD2 like 28MB :/
Thank for all sugestions.
best regards
malin
Check in bootloader. Your spl MUST be 3.03.0000 or 3.03.hspl for Artemis (or any 3.14) rom, otherwise get memory problems.
Thanks for suggestion, i have 3.03.000 hspl, and artemi rom, now I have 15MB free total storage memeory is 54MB it is normall ?
ph right,. storage memory, not program memory, my mistake. the spl thing doesnt affect storage memory.
See attachment for what my HD2 shows after installing Artemis v64.0 GER:
There is a marginally difference between your values and mine.
It is most more difference becuse my summary after instalig is 50MB not 500MB, and when I install another one soft have the same siaze of storage memory, it is possible that my memory has been broke ?
thanks for answers
Which radio version are you using?
Have you thought about installing HSPL3.03 and doing a Task29 before flashing Artemis again?
Was HSPL2.08 installed on your HD2? I can rember just after the release of ROM3.14 some users had problems to get rid of HSPL2.08.
Thanks man. I never diot Task29 , after this step now I have normally 184MB free in storage
Big tnx again
If you enter bootloader, can you see
PB81100 SS-BC or
PB81100 HX-BC?
Just out of curiosity.
I have PB81100 SS-BC
That's what I've excpected, according to posts of other users with similar problems.
SS stands for Samsung memory chipset.
HX stands for Hynix memory chipset.
So, in next time when i want to change my os, what I have to look, for SS or HX ?
malin
That's got nothing to do with the OS you want to install, but with the used hardware of the HD2.
There is nothing you can change or look for, except you want to buy a new HD2.
uli71 said:
There is nothing you can change or look for, except you want to buy a new HD2.
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There IS something to do. As I wrote long ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11070430#post11070430 - it's useful to follow the proposed flashing sequence. I flash my phone sometimes tree-five times per day (Samsung chipset) and have absolutely no problems with memory amount. Bad clusters (if exist) are excluded while Task 29.

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