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So I want a full-size keyboard for my Wizard. Yes, it has a keyboard built in, but I want something I can type multiple pages per day on while travelling.
I'm thinking that a wired keyboard would be the best option- no batteries required, a little simpler, much cheaper. Does anyone know if the Stowaway XT works? I don't see drivers on the thinkoutside site for it, even though I can find some that are supposed to work with the iPAQ and MDA.
In any case, does anyone have any opinions on other folding keyboards on the market?
I don't think you will have any luck on a wired/battery-free keyboard for the Wizard. Hardware-wise, I don't think you can draw any power from the Wizard. The only reasonable interface you can draw power if the USB port. However, as the Wizard does not have a USB-host feature, it is likely that the USB port is for power in only.
I guess you ought to start looking for wireless keyboards.
I want to start this thread and have everyone submit information for peripherals that work on the Athena but are made for PC's. We can even add devices which we know do not work. I've already spent a few dollars testing out several Bluetooth mice and I wouldn't want anyone else wasting money, etc. For devices that aren't compatible I would recommend more than one person test in case it was improperly installed/configured/etc.
What do you guys think of this?
To contribute, test and let us know what works and doesn't.
Also, please provide an outline of the specs like with the items listed below.
BlueTooth Peripherals
AnyCom BTM-100 (recommended by ltxda)
- Bluetooth 1.1
- On/Off switch
- Work Time = Up to 20 Hours
- Stand by Time = Up to 2000 Hours
- Resolution 800 DPI Optical
- Profile is HID with boot support
- Powered by 2x AAA Ni-Mh batteries and rechargeable with USB adapter (included)
- Radio Class 2
- Chipset CSR BC01
- Dimensions (H x W x T), 28.5 x 48 x 100.5 mm...or in inches 1.12 x 1.88 x 3.397.
- Weight 48 grams excluding batteries
Logitech v270 (recommended by Wiz here)
- On/Off switch
- 1000 DPI Optical
- Powered by 2x AA batteries
- Power Saving Mode
MSI BM-100 Wireless Bluetooth Mouse (recommended by bilalperwaiz here)
- Bluetooth V 1.2 Compatible
- HID 1.0
- 800dpi Resolution
- Range: 10 Meters
- Portable Compact Size
- Rubber Coating
- Charging Cable
- Light Weight only 72gms weight
- 2x AAA Rechargeable Batteries
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Wired Peripherals
KeySonic 2.4Ghz Wireless Compact Keyboard with Integrated TouchPad (recommended by Pantaloonie here)
...I set this under wired peripherals because you need the 4-in-1 cable for it to work via USB. If it's BlueTooth then let me know and I'll update the post accordingly. Otherwise it's staying here.
- Manufacturer #: KB-ACK-540RF
- Wireless mini-keyboard with built-in touchpad and 2 mouse function keys
- Elegant aluminium finish
- Powerful and reliable radio-frequency transmission at 2.4 GHz
- Full functionality of a standard layout keyboard including built- in numeric keypad and 12 function keys
- Quiet keyboard with tactile feedback
- Simply USB Plug & Play - no driver required
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Logitech V270 BT Mouse battery life
For reference, I purchased the Logitech V270 BT mouse around april 15, and I have been using it for 50 business days straight (with average use) until now on it's first set of batteries without any visible signs of battery depletion (blinking led indicating an empty battery).
It supposedly has built-in battery saving features, and honestly, I don't see how it would last this long without those features.
Im still waiting on my usb host cable so i cant add anything as yet - sorry.
I would very much like to know if anyone has tried out some powered/unpowered hard drives for compatibility. I have strong suspicions that wm6 will have a lot more usb host functionality and that devices which didnt work under wm5 will now be properly recognised.
leoni1980 said:
Im still waiting on my usb host cable so i cant add anything as yet - sorry.
I would very much like to know if anyone has tried out some powered/unpowered hard drives for compatibility. I have strong suspicions that wm6 will have a lot more usb host functionality and that devices which didnt work under wm5 will now be properly recognised.
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I remember seeing something about this within the forum somewhere. See if you can search and come up with something. People were trying HD's and USB drives via the USB connection.
Wiz said:
For reference, I purchased the Logitech V270 BT mouse around april 15, and I have been using it for 50 business days straight (with average use) until now on it's first set of batteries without any visible signs of battery depletion (blinking led indicating an empty battery).
It supposedly has built-in battery saving features, and honestly, I don't see how it would last this long without those features.
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Can you post some of the specifications like I did for the mouse I recommended so I can edit my post and add more info for others?
I think I may go out and buy the mouse because of the battery life you reported. I'm still testing the one I have in regards to battery life.
For reference the KEYSONIC keyboard is NOT wired! Its wireless!
adamelphick said:
For reference the KEYSONIC keyboard is NOT wired! Its wireless!
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Do you need the 4-in-1 cable to use it? Or is it BlueTooth?
It does require the 4 in 1 cable to plug the usb receiver into (or the dock), so I guess you could call it a wired device.
ltxda said:
I want to start this thread and have everyone submit information for peripherals that work on the Athena but are made for PC's. We can even add devices which we know do not work. I've already spent a few dollars testing out several Bluetooth mice and I wouldn't want anyone else wasting money, etc. For devices that aren't compatible I would recommend more than one person test in case it was improperly installed/configured/etc.
What do you guys think of this?
BlueTooth Peripherals
AnyCom BTM-100 (recommended by ltxda)
- Bluetooth 1.1
- On/Off switch
- Work Time = Up to 20 Hours
- Stand by Time = Up to 2000 Hours
- Resolution 800 DPI Optical
- Profile is HID with boot support
- Powered by 2x AAA Ni-Mh batteries and rechargeable with USB adapter (included)
- Radio Class 2
- Chipset CSR BC01
- Dimensions (H x W x T), 28.5 x 48 x 100.5 mm...or in inches 1.12 x 1.88 x 3.397.
- Weight 48 grams excluding batteries
Logitech v270 (recommended by Wiz here)
- On/Off switch
- 1000 DPI Optical
- Powered by 2x AA batteries
- Power Saving Mode
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Wired Peripherals
KeySonic 2.4Ghz Wireless Compact Keyboard with Integrated TouchPad (recommended by Pantaloonie here)
...I set this under wired peripherals because you need the 4-in-1 cable for it to work via USB. If it's BlueTooth then let me know and I'll update the post accordingly. Otherwise it's staying here.
- Manufacturer #: KB-ACK-540RF
- Wireless mini-keyboard with built-in touchpad and 2 mouse function keys
- Elegant aluminium finish
- Powerful and reliable radio-frequency transmission at 2.4 GHz
- Full functionality of a standard layout keyboard including built- in numeric keypad and 12 function keys
- Quiet keyboard with tactile feedback
- Simply USB Plug & Play - no driver required
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hey dude..JUST TO CONFIRM...MY BT MOUSE... MSI BlueMouse BM-100 izz working with my Athena now... so ...just add to that...THIS IZZ CONFIRMED BY ME!
bilalperwaiz said:
hey dude..JUST TO CONFIRM...MY BT MOUSE... MSI BlueMouse BM-100 izz working with my Athena now... so ...just add to that...THIS IZZ CONFIRMED BY ME!
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Can you give me a little info like in the original post please? You still there?
Asus Rechargaeble BT Mouse that comes with some Asus laptop works a treat
I think it is a rebadged logitech
here it goes...
ltxda said:
Can you give me a little info like in the original post please? You still there?
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okay dude here...
MSI BM-100 Wireless Bluetooth Mouse
Bluetooth V 1.2 Compatible
HID 1.0
800dpi Resolution
Range: 10 Meters
Portable Compact Size
Rubber Coating
Charging Cable
Light Weight only 72gms weight
2* AAA Rechargeable Batteries
bilalperwaiz said:
okay dude here...
MSI BM-100 Wireless Bluetooth Mouse
Bluetooth V 1.2 Compatible
HID 1.0
800dpi Resolution
Range: 10 Meters
Portable Compact Size
Rubber Coating
Charging Cable
Light Weight only 72gms weight
2* AAA Rechargeable Batteries
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Thank you.
no problems
ltxda said:
Thank you.
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yea dude...although im also testing a few devices...and ill let you know about the compatibility....
Belkin Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard Combo works!
Just tested The Belkin Wireless Desktop from my tower pc on an Ameo and it works superbly. Seemingly cursor support is embedded into WM6 as all I had to do was pair and I was away!
It works a treat: I'm sending this post using it now. It actually makes the Ameo really feel like an Ickle mini pc.
Hoping that USB devices run as smoothly as this as I wish to use Bluetooth Dun and a keyboard and mouse at the same time - doubt the bandwidth of BT would support 3 devices symultaneously, though I may give it a try tomorrow.
Just remembered - the Belkin wireless desktop's supplied bluetooth dongle is plug n play - when my 4-in-1 arrives I'll give it a test with the Ameo - if it works then it'll expand my bluetoothing potential.
leoni1980 said:
Just tested The Belkin Wireless Desktop from my tower pc on an Ameo and it works superbly. Seemingly cursor support is embedded into WM6 as all I had to do was pair and I was away!
It works a treat: I'm sending this post using it now. It actually makes the Ameo really feel like an Ickle mini pc.
Hoping that USB devices run as smoothly as this as I wish to use Bluetooth Dun and a keyboard and mouse at the same time - doubt the bandwidth of BT would support 3 devices symultaneously, though I may give it a try tomorrow.
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That's great. I tested the Logitech Mouse from my desktop, Mx900 and it works with the athena and WM6 also. I'll post the details later. Meanwhile, when you get a moment...let me know the details of your device so i can update the thread. Thanks for the feedback and help! I'm sure others will find this useful if they are in the market to buy PC accessories for their athena.
ltxda said:
That's great. I tested the Logitech Mouse from my desktop, Mx900 and it works with the athena and WM6 also. I'll post the details later. Meanwhile, when you get a moment...let me know the details of your device so i can update the thread. Thanks for the feedback and help! I'm sure others will find this useful if they are in the market to buy PC accessories for their athena.
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it's just called a bluetooth wireless desktop as far as the packaging is concerned. There's one on ebay on the link below if anyone wants to see a picture. Both the mouse and keyboard work perfectly on the Ameo: there's no delay or jerkiness. They give the device a great 'feel' (for want of a better word). Im still on the lookout for a small, affordable keyboard and mouse combo to use though. I'd prefer USB, in part for the purpose of conserving power.
For the record, Ive tested a bluetooth connection to the mouse, keyboard AND bt DUN on a 3G phone simultaneously tonight, and the result was.....it worked perfectly.
so the option to use BT peripherals and other BT services at the same time IS there, but I'd rather keep my attached devices to a minimum.
ltxda said:
That's great. I tested the Logitech Mouse from my desktop, Mx900 and it works with the athena and WM6 also. I'll post the details later. Meanwhile, when you get a moment...let me know the details of your device so i can update the thread. Thanks for the feedback and help! I'm sure others will find this useful if they are in the market to buy PC accessories for their athena.
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it's just called a bluetooth wireless desktop as far as the packaging is concerned. There's one on ebay on the link below if anyone wants to see a picture. Both the mouse and keyboard work perfectly on the Ameo: there's no delay or jerkiness. They give the device a great 'feel' (for want of a better word). Im still on the lookout for a small, affordable keyboard and mouse combo to use though. I'd prefer USB, in part for the purpose of conserving power.
For the record, Ive tested a bluetooth connection to the mouse, keyboard AND bt DUN on a 3G phone simultaneously tonight, and the result was.....it worked perfectly.
so the option to use BT peripherals and other BT services at the same time IS there, but I'd rather keep my attached devices to a minimum.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Belkin-blueto...ryZ47779QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
lakeman said:
Asus Rechargaeble BT Mouse that comes with some Asus laptop works a treat
I think it is a rebadged logitech
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Sweet!
Can you check the model at the bottom of the mouse and provide some spec info so I can update the post?
I tried my usb 250 gig fat 32 drive, the Ameo eventually found it, and I could see the folders, "couldnt before" but still way to slow to access anything on it. its way quicker to just use it as a network drive.
Anybody any luck with a usb drive.
Just wondering.
I'm wondering how and why you could or would use a mouse on a touchscreen device without a pointer...
I have a BT mouse I got from Woot! awhile back, and it doesn't work. It will see it, but expects a code to pair with it. I've tried the usual combos and none worked, but on Windows 7 or MacOS they pair with it without any codes.
harpua1980 said:
I'm wondering how and why you could or would use a mouse on a touchscreen device without a pointer...
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Some of the versions do have a mouse pointer once you have the mouse connected. I think Zpad does. Have heard TnT does not.
Sprdtyf350 said:
Some of the versions do have a mouse pointer once you have the mouse connected. I think Zpad does. Have heard TnT does not.
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Roebeet? Any info on this? It would be mighty helpful especially one we get our hands on the dock
harpua1980 said:
Roebeet? Any info on this? It would be mighty helpful especially one we get our hands on the dock
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I only have one BT mouse to test, and it's never worked on any mod I've used. So I don't have the metrics to know if TnT would work with any BT mouse.
Well I just tried to plug in a usb mouse in TnT-Lite 2.1.1 an no cursor appeared. I am personally fine with the touch interface but it is a shame it was not detected right away.
Usb or Bluetooth Mouse support and Bluetooth Tethering are the last things that I want to get out of the gTablet... then I will be as pleased with the device as I can possibly be.
Gamestring + gtab + wireless mouse and keyboard = portable bliss
Last night I tested usb keyboard (HP OEM), usb mouse (Logitech), bt mouse (Logitech) with TnT Lite 2.20.
The keyboard was recognized right away and from a few seconds of testing, seems like all the keys that should work work.
Nothing noticable happens when you plug in a usb mouse. I have feeling TnT just doesn't have the drivers to recognize any mouse.
BT mouse pairs when I use the passkey '0000' and the gTab reports back as paired but not connected. I confirmed with my Logitech user manuel that the passkey if needed is indeed '0000' and trying another code causes the mouse to not connect at all. I haven't found a way to get it connected. I have the same feeling its because there are no mouse drivers in the TnT framework.
If you're looking to get a mouse to work in TnT Lite, I think we will have to ask Mr. Roebeet for some more magic.
Can the mouse services be ripped out of the Zpad ROM and put in the TNTLite ROM?
Running CM 6.1b4 here and I plugged in a Microsoft BT Mouse w/ a USB adapter and the cursor popped up right away and actually worked. I was unable to find it when I scanned for devices w/ the gTab's bluetooth, so you'd be stuck w/ a tiny dongle, but at least it's wireless. Here's a quick vid I made on the droid of it working,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdCV0Z-pRxk
Got mine working like a champ! I have the Logitech Dinovo mini key board. I had to use the dongle that comes with it though . I would get the same paired but not connected msg without the dongle. Put in the dongle and boom, works flawlessly. All I need now is the HDMI kit so I can lay in the bed and use this thing as a mini HTPC when I travel. Thanks guys!
ncaggie1989 said:
Got mine working like a champ! I have the Logitech Dinovo mini key board. I had to use the dongle that comes with it though . I would get the same paired but not connected msg without the dongle. Put in the dongle and boom, works flawlessly. All I need now is the HDMI kit so I can lay in the bed and use this thing as a mini HTPC when I travel. Thanks guys!
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Are you running tnt?
Thanks.
Zpad clean 2.0
Got a quick question for those of you with the HD dock. Are you running dual USB devices for you mouse and keyboard, do wireless usb devices work for the dock sans drivers, or has anyone found a way to pair dual devices to have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard functional?
My dilemma is where I am planning on putting my dock, it's going to be really difficult to use wired devices because the dock is going to be located physically behind me. I need to find a way to go as wireless as possible so but at the store we were only able to pair up one bluetooth device at a time. Has anyone found a work around for that?
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Got a quick question for those of you with the HD dock. Are you running dual USB devices for you mouse and keyboard, do wireless usb devices work for the dock sans drivers, or has anyone found a way to pair dual devices to have a bluetooth mouse and keyboard functional?
My dilemma is where I am planning on putting my dock, it's going to be really difficult to use wired devices because the dock is going to be located physically behind me. I need to find a way to go as wireless as possible so but at the store we were only able to pair up one bluetooth device at a time. Has anyone found a work around for that?
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I've tried a couple of wireless keyboard/mouse combos plugged into the dock and neither worked. I'm currently using a powered usb hub plugged into the dock with a Logitec keyboard and mouse plugged into the hub. Works great.
horn34 said:
I've tried a couple of wireless keyboard/mouse combos plugged into the dock and neither worked. I'm currently using a powered usb hub plugged into the dock with a Logitec keyboard and mouse plugged into the hub. Works great.
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Damn... That's what I was afraid of. My issue is I'm placing the dock on my nightstand located next to my bed for charging purposes. What's throwing me off is in one of the videos demoing the dock it shows them using both a wireless keyboard and mouse. It's gotta be possible, but I have no clue how. At the store we couldn't pair up two seperate bluetooth devices at the same time.
May have found a solution to my problem. At a local Compusa I found a bluetooth keyboard and trackpad in one. I'll take it to work and test it out... If it works, I'll report back.
My Logitech Wireless Desktop (USB Unifying receiver) worked fine, out of the box - keyboard and mouse.
There shouldnt be any reason that your generic wireless device/receiver combos dont work since they're simply a transmitter/receiver pair, your problem is likely with the lack of adequate power supplied by the dock. Theres no way that power supply puts out enough to power the phone as well as the USB ports so thats probably why the powered USB hub mentioned above solves everything.
Hi Guys,
i bought a motorola atrix lapdock and i'm looking for a way to connect this with my samsung galaxy s2. I think, the easy part is the connection via hdmi to the smartphone. The Problem is to connect the keyboard/mouse output over the female micro usb connector with the phone.
Im looking for some kind of 'wireless' solution. There are a lot of bluetooth keyboards (and mouse) devices available on the market, which works with a smartphone.
In my imagination i have a small device which tunnel the keyboard and mouse signal over something like bluetooth to the smartphone.
Did anyone see something like this? Or has someone a another idea, how i can to connect the lapdock mouse/keyboard to the phone.
zeiti
You can probably look into building your own converter using this:
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10823
Haven't seen anyone do it before but I think it's technically possible.
Late to the party, but I think it can be done too. The lapdock keyboard and trackpad are usb hid (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). So, thinking out loud:
Lapdock usb --> usb microcontroller --> bluetooth hid
That's oversimplified, but it's a start. Question is, would such a setup recognize both keyboard and trackpad, or just one of the two?
**edit**
I found a link to a guide using an arduino and a bluesmirf hid. But I can't insert links yet, so if you google "arduino bluetooth hid" one of the results should be a site called kobakant. Very interesting write-up there.