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Hello,
I know this has been asked all over the place but I have read all the related downgrade threads and cant find what im looking for. (Just too confusing!)
OK yesturday I got a SPV M3100 from orange. Within 5 mins I had followed this guide to upgrade to WM6:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/wmxl/index.html
All went well! I flashed the SPL thing first, then the radio thing, and then the OS.
I am trying to downgrade now, as I am having second thoughts and having a few problems. I want to downgrade everything, the SPL, Radio and OS stuff.
This is what I had:
IPL - 1.01
SPL - 1.04
Radio: not sure
OS: WM5 with Orange stuff intergrated
I now have:
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.40.Olipro
Radio: 1.38.00.10
OS: WMXL 0.20
I have read this guide about downgrading:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/Downgrade/index.html
I think I can follow it OK but it sounds confusing to me. He only really talkes about downgrading the OS. I want everything back to factory standard.
Theres all this talk about I have to downgrade to SPL 1.10 before I do anything. Some say force it. If it was 1.04 to start, why do i flash 1.10? Some say other stuff. Im just all confused! Can you do the whole lot in one flash? Do it seperately? What order?
Again really sorry for this random post, im just really stuck
Thanks
David
dlfranks said:
Hello,
I know this has been asked all over the place but I have read all the related downgrade threads and cant find what im looking for. (Just too confusing!)
OK yesturday I got a SPV M3100 from orange. Within 5 mins I had followed this guide to upgrade to WM6:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/wmxl/index.html
All went well! I flashed the SPL thing first, then the radio thing, and then the OS.
I am trying to downgrade now, as I am having second thoughts and having a few problems. I want to downgrade everything, the SPL, Radio and OS stuff.
This is what I had:
IPL - 1.01
SPL - 1.04
Radio: not sure
OS: WM5 with Orange stuff intergrated
I now have:
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.40.Olipro
Radio: 1.38.00.10
OS: WMXL 0.20
I have read this guide about downgrading:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/Downgrade/index.html
I think I can follow it OK but it sounds confusing to me. He only really talkes about downgrading the OS. I want everything back to factory standard.
Theres all this talk about I have to downgrade to SPL 1.10 before I do anything. Some say force it. If it was 1.04 to start, why do i flash 1.10? Some say other stuff. Im just all confused! Can you do the whole lot in one flash? Do it seperately? What order?
Again really sorry for this random post, im just really stuck
Thanks
David
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IF you read the guide it takes you through downgrading the OS,extrom and the two splashscreens.
You do the same procedure again for the radio and IPL/SPL, but make sure you do the SPL and IPL last.
Or you could do a different procedure where you flash 1.10.oli (SPL) to the device, then you can run a full flash all at once, is up to you.
thanks.
So I flash 1.10Olipro first (sorry where do i get this?)
Then I flash the Orange ROM from the wiki? This then puts the old radio, spl and os on?
does the orange rom force all the old stuff back on if the spl is 1.10 or something
Am i still following the same downgrade guide?
wish there was a guide just for me!!! lol
dlfranks said:
wish there was a guide just for me!!! lol
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lol When you manage this, perhaps you could produce a specific guide for us Orange M3100 owners
philg2000 said:
lol When you manage this, perhaps you could produce a specific guide for us Orange M3100 owners
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you have any tips for me having one yourself?
I want it all back to normal just incase I decide to send it back...
Upgrade was so easy, just ran a bunch of files. The downgrade one you have to extract, copy, move, compile and do all these things
If i put on 1.10oli will the phone still work with wm6?
then i do the downgrade guide and use the orange rom, how do i get it to downgrade all 3 things?
why cant it be as easy as flashing a normal phone like K800i lol
mrvanx said:
IF you read the guide it takes you through downgrading the OS,extrom and the two splashscreens.
You do the same procedure again for the radio and IPL/SPL, but make sure you do the SPL and IPL last.
Or you could do a different procedure where you flash 1.10.oli (SPL) to the device, then you can run a full flash all at once, is up to you.
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the two dfio ways you said here? there still confusing me...
how do i do the full flash? that sounds more simple...
is there a guide??????
full flash with orange rom wm5? you said downgrade to 1.10oli first. If i do this then do full flash, with 1.04 be put on by the full flash?
dlfranks said:
you have any tips for me having one yourself?
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I wish!
Well, I could give you a pointer to what to avoid doing, from "my mates" <cough> own harsh learn -the-hard-way experience. Let me have a trawl thru what "he" did recently the resulted in a Brick...
I take it your not looking to do this any time soon?
i want to do it today, just incase i decide to send it back to orange.
i just wanna know what steps to take how to get it all back to the way orange sent it to me.
i just went to start the downgrade sing the downgrade guide, but the only orange rom on the wiki is romanion or something and its orange008. so confusing!!!!!!
i dont understand
OK, there isnt a guide on this because its a more advanced thing to do. You REALLY should read up in the HardSPL thread and etc... before you do this:
download SPL 1.10.oli, unzip and run ROMUpgradeUT this will flash the SPL to the device. Then just download a ROM (such as an orange one) and run it. the ROM will downgrade everything.
Actually it is dangerous to downgrade using a full ROM without Hard spl1.40olipro which will protect you from bricking your device.
If you really want to do it then
1- Do as mrvanx guide to downgrade only the OS.
2- Do as mrvanx guide to downgrade only the Radio.
3- Download 1.10oli which will replace 1.40oli and I think it is the only way to do it.
4- Do as mrvanx guide to downgrade only the Spl.
I don't advice you to downgrade the radio as the shipped one is terrible.
Read Hard spl thread before you start your downgrade process.
mrvanx said:
OK, there isnt a guide on this because its a more advanced thing to do. You REALLY should read up in the HardSPL thread and etc... before you do this:
download SPL 1.10.oli, unzip and run ROMUpgradeUT this will flash the SPL to the device. Then just download a ROM (such as an orange one) and run it. the ROM will downgrade everything.
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i did what you said...
flashed it with spl 1.10oli then flashed it with orange rom
rom flash went fine
now stuck in windows mobile flash screen
what do i do now? lol
dlfranks said:
i did what you said...
flashed it with spl 1.10oli then flashed it with orange rom
rom flash went fine
now stuck in windows mobile flash screen
what do i do now? lol
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Sh1t - Which Orange ROM?
What Bootloader version is now on the phone?
the Thread at the top of this forum is a good place to start - "dead hermes? corrupted radio? Post comments here"
Does it by any chance also say "No Gsm" on the orange screen briefly as it boots..
(I hope not....)
philg2000 said:
Sh1t - Which Orange ROM?
What Bootloader version is now on the phone?
the Thread at the top of this forum is a good place to start - "dead hermes? corrupted radio? Post comments here"
Does it by any chance also say "No Gsm" on the orange screen briefly as it boots..
(I hope not....)
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hello
bootloader on phone is spl-1.10.oli as this is what i was advised to put on it before i flash the rom and the rom would flash everything back...
the only things that the orange screen says is
M 05
S 04
B 06
D 2.5
the orange rom i used was...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278060&page=3
hope you can help
thanks
Can you double check the boot loader version?
Coz I thought that Rom downgraded it too.
Best place to start, then, is the thread I mentioned. There is a table of what to do under certain circumstances.
Problem I was involved with, only option was repair. But with an Oli bootloader you should be ok.
the bootloader is defo 1.10.oli
i was expecting the rom to downgrade it too
i have put a post into that thread you said. its number 979
i have phoned orange and there happy to replace it tomo morning, if i fix it tonight then i just wont accept the new one... if not ill take risk of having replacement and them not contacting me about it
anything you can suggest? really appriciate any help!
i dont see how you can flash it again with difo boot loader as none of the tools recognise it now?
thanks
OK im not a new to windows mobile, i have flashed before many times but with wizard.
I want to upgrade my brother hermes,
ipl 1.01
spl 1.06
Im quite familiar with wizards "shelltool" (if you know) which just boots the OS and nothing else.
So can you guide as which tool i should use to just upgrade the OS and leave IPL and SPL and GSM as it is. I think SSPL should do??
Check out THIS MOST AWESOME GUIDE. MrVanx is the best and his guide will give you all you need.
But im in warranty, and i dont wanna lose it by overwriting spl,
Is there any other way to upgrade.
I think SSPL will do but not sure do i need to check for CID also??
Thanks for quick reply.
If your warranty is important, then I would read it very closely.
Probably only upgrades available from your manufacturer or your service provider would be allowed, and in that case you follow their instructions to the letter and if something goes wrong, it's up to them to resolve.
If you go loading WM6 and it's not supported, then you'll be on your own so you might as well load best/safest IPL & HARDSSPL as the experts have so wonderfully published for us lesser experienced people.
If it was my brothers phone, I wouldn't touch it because he'd either hit me or be bugging me for weeks about different versions & software etc, etc, etc
That's just my 2cents anyway.
Good luck! Oggy.
samy.3660 said:
But im in warranty, and i dont wanna lose it by overwriting spl,
Is there any other way to upgrade.
I think SSPL will do but not sure do i need to check for CID also??
Thanks for quick reply.
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I would suggest not flashing a radio if you don't flash Olipro's HardSPL.
But SSPL will allow you to bypass the CID check for roms, similar to the shelltool for Wizards.
I have learned now to decompile and compile the nbh file.
So i can compile now any rom with OS only and flash it via SSPL.
Can anybody guide me to a guide to use SSPL. OR can u say???
I have one more confusion regarding SSPL that it does change the SPL for time being(for flashing) or for always??
Again if anything goes wrong while flashing the rom(only OS) will i be able to flash the original rom directly with original SPL.
HELP HELP
Hi All ..i'm totally lost here. I've tried to look for guideline to downgrade to original SPL 1.04 but i cudn't find any.I installed the latest m3100 unlock software v3a doing so my SPL is now version 1.4 Olipro. For warranty purposes how do I downgrade back to 1.04? I'm sorry this problem might have been addressed somewhere on the forum..if so cud someone provide the link to the thread on this. thank you so much.
Click on the mrvanx guide at the bottom of my signature, it will tell you how to downgrade in the guides.
mysharif said:
HELP HELP
Hi All ..i'm totally lost here. I've tried to look for guideline to downgrade to original SPL 1.04 but i cudn't find any.I installed the latest m3100 unlock software v3a doing so my SPL is now version 1.4 Olipro. For warranty purposes how do I downgrade back to 1.04? I'm sorry this problem might have been addressed somewhere on the forum..if so cud someone provide the link to the thread on this. thank you so much.
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I have been there mrvanx guide. but he don't have the solution to this problem. Just to downgrade the rom to wm5 not the SPL.
mysharif i think we have to shout again.
Help us anybody there we are stuck here.
OK guys the SPL downgrade can be done by downgrading to SPL 1.10.oli then flash any ROM with SPL 1.04 in it.
The only reason i can see that you wish to downgrade to 1.04 is because of a warranty issue. What is the problem with your devices??
You are great. I hope it will work for my Imate JasJam. Last night I was flashing my ROM with the original ROM but modified with NBH decomplie too by dutty. Before that I wrecked my device as I used the flashing of ROM using the latest sensation of loading the SSPL to RAM by des. That was my mistake that I used the original ROM. Then I removed the USB cable as it was taking too much time and because of danger to my imate I did that. Anyhow I got the NO GSM error but then I ran the Dutty's WM6v2 cooked ROM and it fixes all the things I am using it now.
The reason for my Imate JasJam degrade is my jog is not working according to its function. You know jumping from field to field. I didn't found any of that problem solution till the page of 30 in threads and posts. I am searching but if anybody knows the link. Kindly help me. So that I will save a trip to see the warranty people. (here we don't have ladies receptionists )
Sorry for the stupid question, how do I downgrade from Oli 2.10 to Oli 1.10
Il write a guide on it...too many PMs about this.
mysharif said:
HELP HELP
Hi All ..i'm totally lost here. I've tried to look for guideline to downgrade to original SPL 1.04 but i cudn't find any.I installed the latest m3100 unlock software v3a doing so my SPL is now version 1.4 Olipro. For warranty purposes how do I downgrade back to 1.04? I'm sorry this problem might have been addressed somewhere on the forum..if so cud someone provide the link to the thread on this. thank you so much.
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I have the same problem. My touchscreen is dud and Softbank is very anal about the bootloader and warranty. im stuck with Olipro 2.10 and tried flashing the latest softbank rom. When i try via USB/Windows it gives me error 260.
Flashing with MicroSD works, but after a few attempts, its still Olipro bootloader...any ideas?
aquasesh said:
I have the same problem. My touchscreen is dud and Softbank is very anal about the bootloader and warranty. im stuck with Olipro 2.10 and tried flashing the latest softbank rom. When i try via USB/Windows it gives me error 260.
Flashing with MicroSD works, but after a few attempts, its still Olipro bootloader...any ideas?
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Ofcourse...because flashing an original RUU it doesnt recognise the new bootloader (Hence your 260 error), and HArdSPL doesnt allow itself to be overwritten by a retail RUU. IF you read through the HArdSPL threads you would know this.
mrvanx said:
OK guys the SPL downgrade can be done by downgrading to SPL 1.10.oli then flash any ROM with SPL 1.04 in it.
The only reason i can see that you wish to downgrade to 1.04 is because of a warranty issue. What is the problem with your devices??
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Hmmm, just yesterday (Thursday) I was asked by a VP at our company if that could be done. I was reluctant to say yes, but mrvanx comes thru with a fix.
The VP is in fact worried about having to return some devices to Vodafone, and he want to make them look "original" when they go back.
GreatGrey said:
Hmmm, just yesterday (Thursday) I was asked by a VP at our company if that could be done. I was reluctant to say yes, but mrvanx comes thru with a fix.
The VP is in fact worried about having to return some devices to Vodafone, and he want to make them look "original" when they go back.
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Just flash SPL 1.10.oli.......................then flash a vodaphone ROM, dont use 'force SSPL', just use autodetect.
well to get spl 1.04 all u have to do is take rom koch and the wm5 rom u are downgrading to. first downgrade os. then take that rom and using rom koch split it into parts and just take the spl and make it into a nbh and use the custom ruu on here. select force sspl and itll make ur spl 1.04. this is a quick guide and do this at own risk. using this method i got my first 8525 to aku 3.5 att and original spl. if marvanx comfirms i didnt make any mistakes i can make a new thread with pics and all so we cna add this to resources and stop the questions.
Pawel062 said:
well to get spl 1.04 all u have to do is take rom koch and the wm5 rom u are downgrading to. first downgrade os. then take that rom and using rom koch split it into parts and just take the spl and make it into a nbh and use the custom ruu on here. select force sspl and itll make ur spl 1.04. this is a quick guide and do this at own risk. using this method i got my first 8525 to aku 3.5 att and original spl. if marvanx comfirms i didnt make any mistakes i can make a new thread with pics and all so we cna add this to resources and stop the questions.
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Or you could just wait until my guide is finished??
You dont need to use the rom koch ... duttys nbh tool is far more appropriate for this since we aint doing any cooking.
yea your right I just wanted to reduce your work load.
mrvanx said:
Or you could just wait until my guide is finished??
You dont need to use the rom koch ... duttys nbh tool is far more appropriate for this since we aint doing any cooking.
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Hi mrvanx, some input to go into your guide (in case you havent come across this yet).
While flashing 1.10Oli under Vista, users may run into a problem where after loading SSPL and the phone goes into (SSPL) bootloader mode, the RUU program cannot detect the phone and returns an error.
This is due to the Vista drivers for HTC USB Sync. The driver needs to be manually "updated" just like in your Vista flashing guide. In this case, while the phone is in SSPL bootloader mode, go into device manager, replace the default HTC USB Sync driver with the USBAS one from your Vista flashing guide.
Then soft reset the phone, and try again. Worked for me.
For some reason, SSPL bootloader may appear as a different device to Windows than the hard/standard bootloader, so even if the Vista procedure has been performed before, it looks like it needs to be done also for SSPL.
Hi,
i was trying to upgrade my Hermes to WM6 and i was doing it according to mrvnx guide. First i tried the WM6 guide. Ipl was 1.01 and SPL was 1.11. Evrything went fine up until the part where the actual ROM was supposed to be flashed. The update pocess started, and i went for a smoke somewhere at 2%. When i came back, there was a message saying image file was corrupted, and Hermes was up and running. So, my first instinct was that i missunderstood something and that that guide was for phones already having WM6, so i decided to do the WM5 guide. I flashed the SPL, skipped the radio upgrade (cause i didn't know whether to use that version or the later one) and skipped to the next page. And, low and behold, there it says "Firstly download the WM5 ROM you wish to upgrade to"
And now i'm stuck and i don't know what to do. Should i get some WM5 ROM and first upgrade to it and then to WM6? Or should i go straight for WM6 ROM? If so, do i just follow the WM5 guide only using WM6 ROM or do i just flash it by the WM6 guide?
The phone still works with no problems at all. The desired WM6 ROM is Pays Full. Is it really corupted (got it from the "download full" link in the first post here), or was it my mistake?
Sim unlock and cid unlock your device then - http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/
Download your carriers Rom (wm5 or wm6 - o2,orange,at&t etc)
then flash that.
then HARDSPL your device - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
then use modified updater to flash your device with the wm6/6.1 rom of your choice.. works fine for me.
2.10 bootloader with the "is it hardspl" checked and wa'la its updated
hope this helps.
Thanx for the answer. I doubt i'll find my carrier's rom, since i'm from Croatia, and i think it hasn't been posted here, and certainly hasn't been posted on my provider's site. I did make a backup before upgrading, and i have the three raw files made with itsutils. Will this do?
Also, could you please explain why i need to sim/cid unlock it? The device itself is not branded at all, i believe it's only locked to the provider's sim, and that's all. Does sim /cid unlocking cover that or is it about something else?
Thanx!
Sim unlocking = you can use other sims
CID unlocking = you can use other roms (maybe why your update is crashing)
HARDSPL = One less chance of bricking your device
as your device is still currently up and running im guessing you can do it all via that rom.
Ok, just so i don't missunderstand you, can i do what you suggested, but without flashing the carrier's rom?
you can, however you may encounter problems with wm6.1 in the future (hard resets etc)
OK to clear this thread up....
...make sure you have flashed HardSPL before continuing then...
...redownload the ROM it sounds like it has become corrupted whilst being downloaded so make sure you unzip the whole thing to a folder first then try it.
did everything like kingsizeriz told me, except i did it on the existing rom. uploaded the same rom i tried before and it worked like a charm. me and mates have been fiddling with it the whole evening and noticed no problems so far. Thanx for the help, much appreciated
Btw, one last question, is NK.EXE supposed to be 0 bytes?
Hi guys,
After stumbling across a guide on how to get android 2.2 on to my HD2 i thought it was time to let the old wm6.5 leave my phone for good. The guide is easy enough to use i guess but I'm struggling a bit with getting my SPL down to 2.10.0000 to install HSPL3 on my phone. After reading and googeling in this forum, i have learned new words like radio and what not, but it is still not very clear to me how to downgrade my SPL. My SPL is now at a staggering 3.03.0000.
Would be nice with a bit of guidance, a link to the right guide for me to use or something. Its really amazing things you are doing here.
Cheers guys
Read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
Russ
Thanks for a quick reply.
I have already looked at a few of these guides but they get me a bit confused. In order to install HSPL3 i need to get my SPL down to 2.10, and in order to downgrade radio or ROM, i need to have the HSPL3 or something similar hacking thingy. In the link i got from your post its recommended to use Radio version 2.15.50.14, that might or might not have an SPL below 2.10. If i could get a simple guide or a bit of assistance on how to get my SPL suitable for HSPL3, everything will be hunky dory.
cheers
jubocrisp said:
Thanks for a quick reply.
I have already looked at a few of these guides but they get me a bit confused. In order to install HSPL3 i need to get my SPL down to 2.10, and in order to downgrade radio or ROM, i need to have the HSPL3 or something similar hacking thingy. In the link i got from your post its recommended to use Radio version 2.15.50.14, that might or might not have an SPL below 2.10. If i could get a simple guide or a bit of assistance on how to get my SPL suitable for HSPL3, everything will be hunky dory.
cheers
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Install a previous stock ROM; a version before the 3.14 stock ROM.
make sure that the stock ROM match your device aria/language
Cheers, just what i needed, a simple answer. So now i guess i am almost finished but encountered another problem:
Problem: On some devices MAGLDR won't boot at all (HTC logo stay after turn on).
Solution: Install HSPL208.
Don't understand how to install the hspl208 instead when my phone is not to keen on booting. If i get a little assistance with this i guess i should be able to finally get Android on my phone
hurrah,
After dicking around a bit i managed to sort it out. Cheers guys and thanks for all the help