HELP NEEDED - Problem: Mini-USB Port Fried??? - Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development

Hi. Hoping someone can help me out here - I seem to have "Fried" my mini-usb port on my Touch Dual?
I had connected my Dual to my Vista PC in order to flash the latest Mary Rom - it started to charge the battery but hadn't picked up the device in Windows Mobile Device Manager (as happens some times?) - when I started the CustomRUU I of course got a connection error and this is when the port seems to have "died"???
The Dual now no longer charges - either from the main power supply or from PC or Laptop and I get the error message "USB Device has exceeded the power limits of its USB port" when I plug it into an XP Laptop?
I'm hoping that this is not a permanent "hardware" issue and that someone has had the same problem before and has a solution?
I have tried: Soft Reset, Hard Reset, Removing the battery, Changing the battery, changing the software settings for the usb port?
Help.....?????

So its been a few months now since my Dual died - I've just found it in the bottom of a drawer in my office and its reminded me to take a look and see if anyone else has had this problem so I thought I'd refresh the thread....
Any (ANY) advice would be great - I cant return it to HTC as its stuck with a custom ROM loaded and I cant connect the USB (obviously) to change it back to a shipped rom......
Is there any way to flash an original rom from a memory card?
Help......?????
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that sounds bad...but i don't have the solution... sorry...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422370

but your battery should be very discharged now right?^^

i think my mini usb is on its way out
it keeps loosing activesync connection and i have to wiggle the lead etc.. does anyone else have this problem?

I am new here, but i am an electronics technician who has had a similar problem with my NEON 200. Seems that PC USB Ports can only supply 5VDC @ 500mA max and the NEON power pack is 5VDC @ 1A. I continually charged off my PC and Laptop when i could not find my mains pack - i think this eventually killed my phone or battery as now it just does not charge and i cannot turn on the radios. I did however measure the volts on the battery to be correct, and i did briefly get the device operational again (without the battery warning then turning itself off) for long enough to get a new ROM on the phone hoping this would fix it. FAIL! I have the same problem again... I hear there is a fuse on these that could be open cct, so i am going to look into that now. Hope some of this helps.
BTW - i hard reset the thing about 50 times (hoping the vibrate on start up would run the battery out) and this is how i got the thing working again the first time (before the ROM update).
Cheers,
Matt.

i need more infos ... what have you done befor you get this error?
flash new radio? or OS? or what ever?

This just happened to me too...

You can try to solder the contacts from the usb Plug in Phone. Have done this on a friends nike and this solved the problem.
Be carefull and don't overheat the board...

So you think its just a loose usb port?
I dont know, the pc usb host was shutting down everything on connect...
But Ill try...

that sucks twolf
i wish you good luck

Ok, went into a indian repair shop here and its fixed...35€
I was worried there for a while, the guy couldnt fully talk any language I tried.
But is working fine.

Have you seen what he did with your nike? Or had he told you what he have done?

As far as I know he just replaced the usb port, but I barely understood what he said.
It must have been that because he only had 3 hours with the device and there where other devices in line to be repaired as well.

im glad you got it fixed
did he replace it with an ExtUSB port? will headphones still work?

Hmm... its a normal port, looks like the old one.
I never used the headphones, dont even know where they are, I have a Motorola S9...
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Desk charger/sync cradles.

Has anyone here tried one of these cheap ones from Hong Kong?
They are cheaper than the nearest option, and come with the right plug too.
It can't be expensive cause it consist only from ac/dc adaptor, usb plug and battery charger. I think it's right device.
SloN said:
I think it's right device.
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I'm sure it is, I just wondered if it's likely to be good quality.
Tell you what, I'll order one and report back here once I've used it.
As promised, I bought it and here's the verdict.
Basically, it does what it says on the tin. There was a slight problem with the usb connection, but that was always the case with this computer unless I use a particular lead. Using the lead that came with it, it wouldn't connect. but using the one I normally use it works fine.
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Having used cradles before, this one is slightly more awkward to connect but that's because it uses the usb connector. Previous ones have been spring loaded contacts and the pda would just drop into the cradle. This one requires a little force, but nothing major.
I've yet to determine if the charger works as fast as the original one.
All in all, well worth the money.
xmastree said:
I've yet to determine if the charger works as fast as the original one.
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Hmm, seems I spoke too soon. The PDA won't charge unless the computer is on.
The 5V adaptor plugs into the back of the stand, as does the usb lead. Either of these will bring on the blue LED on the base, but the usb lead lights it brighter. I suspect there may be some problem with the 5V from the adaptor.
I shall investigate and report back (if anyone's reading this...)
charging with PC off
Hi -- I think I've got the same charger as you, and mine seems to charge fine with the computer powered off. . .
Alan
Having investigated further, it appears that the +5V from the charger and the +5V from the USB are linked directly. This means that with either one connected singly, it's fine, with both connected and the PC on, it's also fine.
But, with the PC off the +5V from the charger is fed back through the USB lead into the PC which pulls down the voltage somewhat.
I discovered this when I turned off the PC and noticed some front panel lights glowing slightly. I unplugged the cradle and they went off, and the blue LED on the charger became brighter.
dock
hi,
i've got the same "hong kong" dock as xmastree.
I think this is a good dock, simple and cheap.
regards.

[Q] Usb previously broken and now need to Resolder Usb Port

Hi,
My usb port on my xperia broke previously and i had i repaired but now its broken again. Would it be possible to re solder a brand new usb port as the the guy at the phone shop says he might not be able to re solder it next time.
Any response is greatly appreciated.
HI,
It is possible almost everytime but, MIGHT take very long time to resolder, if copper pads are took off the PCB. Therefore, it mustbe soldered back on other pins.
Anyway, it is possible.
.
Thanks for your replay.
I know that the outer big pins are the ones for charging but are they inner small pins for data connectivity?
hamid3301 said:
Thanks for your replay.
I know that the outer big pins are the ones for charging but are they inner small pins for data connectivity?
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Yes - outer are GND (-) and VCC (+) - inner D+ and D- (DATA). One pin is unused. Here is the pinout:
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Thank you for your reply.
This was very useful and now i can out smart the phone guy when he says in can only charge meaning he hasn't soldered the inner one on.
So hit Thanks pls
If that guy was the technician, ha propably knew that. But there maid be a reason, why he didn`t soldered them - maybe it wasn`t possible due to damaged PCB...
Just guessing
..
I did get my xperia fixed once but it only charged and when ever i connected it to my computer it only charge and did not connect to the computer. Is there a solution for that?
So your phone was repaired after damage? Am I right, that it wasn`t repaired by yourselve?
So, you could find out if data pins are soldered - download Terminal emulator
here.
Then open it and connect your phone with PC via USB cable. Once phone is connected on both sides, type "dmesg" and see output. There must be something like this:
<6>[23469.853208] *********** Charger Type: HOST PC
<6>[23469.853384] Charger Type: STD DOWNSTREAM PORT
<6>[23470.708433] msm_chg_usb_charger_connected
If charger type is DEDICATED CHARGER, data pins are not connected or not solderd properly.
Thanks a lot.
It`s OK - you're welcome
I've got a phone with a broken USB too. I've got a new USB port and was looking for some information on how to do the soldering. Thanks.
witchcraftz said:
I've got a phone with a broken USB too. I've got a new USB port and was looking for some information on how to do the soldering. Thanks.
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Hi, if you don`t have any experience with soldering (of anything) - Don`t do it, you may damage your phone permanently.

[GSM/CDMA] How to flash via RSD when you read "Cannot program" or "Battery LOW"

[GSM/CDMA] How to flash via RSD when you read "Cannot program" or "Battery LOW"
Welcome to Eternity Project!
What are these things?
The Motorola FactoryCable is simply skipping the battery and making your phone to take the necessary current for powering it up from your PC's USB.
Note that it won't charge your battery. It will SKIP IT.
On a device with removable battery, if you remove the batt, it will still powerup with that cable.
Why should I have one?
- "Cannot program" or " Battery Low" when you try to flash via RSD. The Factory Cable eliminates this problem.
- The device won't powerup or charge: if it works with a Factory Cable, then it's a battery problem. If not, your device is a paperweight.
- If anyone finds other uses for it, I'll write 'em here
-----Factory Cable:-----
You need:
1. An USB cable to break, or an USB to MicroUSB adapter (~2$) to break.
2. A brain
3. Soldering iron (if you don't find another method for fixing the cable.....)
4. A brain.
5. Pieces of rigid copper or aluminium (copper preferred)
Pinout:
1 VCC Red +5 VDC
2 D- White Data -
3 D+ Green Data +
4 ID NC Identification
5 GND Black Ground
Schematics:
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Guide for a 3-in-1 cable:
1. Solder rigid copper wires on PIN 1, 4 and 5.
2. Drill 3 holes in your USB to MicroUSB adapter for making the rigid wires to pass through.
3. Connect PIN4 to PIN1 (externally ) for FACTORY CABLE or PIN4 to PIN5 for OTG CABLE (for USB HUBs and USBHost functionalities). Don't connect anything for normal USB cable for USBSync/ADB etc.
Enjoy!
The Eternity Project Developer
--kholk
What a man!!!!
You are big!!!
I had a problem on doig this on a full discharged phone and bboting into fastbbot, i was swetting, but i solved anyway.
this maybe is a goos solution
pic fore more help
You can anyway use the Factory Cable even if your battery is in your phone.
You don't need to remove it for using the factory cable.
I'm sure this works, But:
Just fully charge it, there's a reason you're not allowed to update when running on empty, you may brick it, and without firmware you can't charge the battery.
i get the point that a little DIY is always adventurous and fun but whats the big deal to charge the device before flashing a rom?
This is for a phone that can't boot the kernel for charging the battery.
You saved me
Uhhhhh,
i used Your scheme and everything is correct,
i just programmed the phone while battery was low and bricked it, but with your cable averything was fine..................you saved my phone...
thanks
I remember doing this for my Defy and actually fried the Battery after doing it for more than 4-5mins.
I dont know if this setup is an improvment over that but I think one needs to be careful. Before, we ended up with a hot over charged battery and had to buy a new one. Later we got hold of an external battery charger (that was a removable battery of course).
I hope some accessory like that exists on eBay for us to just order it incase phone goes dead. We might be able to just open screws, pop out the battery and put it into a charger
@Pietrona
The EternityProject is here for helping
@chaihg
I've used it with my ATRIX and never experienced something like that.
Perhaps, your cable was bad and shortcircuited something else or your battery was already bad ... or the DEFY simply reacts different.
But anyway the battery circuits are stopping the charging process when it is fully charged, so probably your battery was bad.
EDIT : THANKS
You save the life of my phone !!!!
BUT :
How can I charge the phone now ?
The phone boot very well in android, but battery bar stay red
If I plug in a normal usb cable, it was a White front LED, but the phone don't want to boot
If I boot with Volume UP +Down + Power, the dot disapear 5 sec and come back again
EDIT :
I found a way : I use the Car charger for charge it, with this way, it charging
But, can't charge now in normal Usb.... with the computer, in Charging only mod, or in Storage mod, he don't wan't to charge....
.... after 5 reboots, work's again oO
I don(t understand, but it work's
ok. I really have never solder'd anything in my life, and dont have any friends that know how to do it as well.. Is there anyone willing to do it and send one my way, ill pay of course. please help a fellow friend in need.. Im stuck.
or factory cable : http://shop.teamblackhat.info/
would love to. but out of stock.
Heh, if you were in Italy I could have made one for you.. but shipping costs would be too high for a $3 cable..
doh. yeah that would probably cost a bit. thanks though
slygeist said:
ok. I really have never solder'd anything in my life, and dont have any friends that know how to do it as well.. Is there anyone willing to do it and send one my way, ill pay of course. please help a fellow friend in need.. Im stuck.
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I'm in the same situation. I'd buy one from someone.
Thanks kholk, after many tries now the factory cable is working for me xD
But it's look so ugly lol
My XT910S is dead anyway, no korean sbf file to rescue it
Just to let some people, sometimes even if you have a full battery that doesn't mean anything. It helps to ensure the flash goes well yes. Even with a full battery its possible that you flash and for what ever reasons the phone reports "Low Battery" even knowing it had a full charge. This was my case tonight, sense I was sure where I placed my original OEM Motorola cable. I decided to make one. Lol i was about to post a thread my self already seen this one though. Here is some pics of what my home made one looked like.
By the way the only cable I had spare of was a Samsung Micro, lol i must say they really in cased this puppy in a shield and bunch of rubber.

Have a battery brick? Battery too low? This should help our all moto guys :)

This is very iffy, and DO NOT TRY THIS IF YOU CANNOT FOLLOW DIRECTIONS, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR PHONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is your problem not mine, if you mess it up
My apologies for supersized images, but they get the point across.
Things you will need.
1. Battery bricked Photon/Motorola Device (x/x2/d/d2/etc)
2. A SPARE USB CABLE, NOT YOUR MAIN CABLE! (Don't be dumb!)
3. Your usb cable you use to to connect your device to your pc.
Directions as follows:
Step 1:
Splice your cable by cutting off the end of the cable (where you would input it to the phone)
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1a: strip the wire about two inches so that white,green,red,black wires are all showing, pull back Green and white wires, as they will not be used.
1b. Strip the red/black wire so they look like below, then wind them up like so.
2. Pull out the battery in the photon.
2a. This is where this gets tricky, look the postive/negative logo's on the battery above the terminals, place the red in the positive terminal and the black in the negative terminal.
2b. Place battery in phone with wires connected to terminal!
3. Plug usb cable into your pc, then connect your usb cable to the phone, wait 2 minutes, and you should no longer have battery too low messages!!!
Remember when you disconnect the phone, UNPLUG THE BATTERY USB CABLE FROM THE PC FIRST OR YOU WILL **** UP YOUR PHONE'S BATTERY SENSOR!!!!
This will work on ALL motorola devices, and most phones period.
This is like jumping your battery from a car.
You're welcome for saving you money , this helped me out SO MANY TIMES.
You need to dump that 8 GB Sandisk and bump it up to a 32 one. LOL! On eBay, 32 GB SDHCs are going around for $25-35.
Haha
now dats funny.
I would suggest not plugging the battery into the phone while doing this, instead let it charge for 20-30 mins. Unplug and put in phone
Sent from my MB855 using XDA App
It normally doesn't work that way, just make sure contacts don't touch, and not to rip them out of the device before disconnecting from pc.
Also if you do it without plugging it in, make sure not to touch the electrical tape together (of course you'd only be using electrical tape!).
I think this is one of those Jeff Foxworthy jokes
You might be a redneck if you charge you phone like a car battery
Man the things people do lol innovative
Well this is useful for people who sbf, then phone dies, and you can't do anything but buy a new battery, NOONE wants to spend that money, when you can be back up and running in minutes.
or.... just make a factory cable? then it charges while in rsd mode?

USB OTG is not working at all??

I just got my S3 yesterday.
I tried connecting up some devices with an OTG cable. None of them seem to work. They dont even power up, so the S3 doesnt even have a chance to recognize them. I tried a fat32 formatted memory stick, a mouse, and a microSD card reader.
I'm using the "motorola camera connection kit" which is the OTG cable for the moto xoom. Its working fine on my xoom so its not the cable, unless theres some reason this cable would be incompatible? (linked pic below)
Could this be a problem with my device?:crying: Charging seemed fine (a bit slow from what i picked up but i havent had enough time to actually judge). Transferring files over worked fine as well.
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The (inofficial) USB-OTG cable from my brother's Xoom works fine on my S3, so they should in theory be compatible.
It should say "USB connector connected" in the notification bar when plugging in the cable without anything attached. Please confirm.
However you mention "power up"; what exactly are you trying to connect?
External unpowered hard drives will usually not work with the S3 since they need more juice than the device can deliver. Powered ones or USB-Sticks should work fine though.
d4fseeker said:
The (inofficial) USB-OTG cable from my brother's Xoom works fine on my S3, so they should in theory be compatible.
It should say "USB connector connected" in the notification bar when plugging in the cable without anything attached. Please confirm.
However you mention "power up"; what exactly are you trying to connect?
External unpowered hard drives will usually not work with the S3 since they need more juice than the device can deliver. Powered ones or USB-Sticks should work fine though.
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Thanks for your reply
It doesnt say anything when i plug the cable in. So i'm guessing it doesnt recognize it at all. Is it possible that the official moto cable is only compatible with moto devices?
I should've been more clear. What i meant is the memory stick i connected has a little light that flashes when u connect it to a pc and this light didnt come on. Same thing with the mouse. Thats what i meant by power up.
Anybody else with a suggestion? if my ports defective, i need to go exchange it by the end of the week.
How about purchasing a cable for the s3 and trying that. As the cable your using is not intended for the s3 how can you know for sure what's at fault (the phone or the cable).
Like the previous poster said your phone should inform you that the otg cable has been connected.
Sent from my GT-I9300
Finally had a chance to get another USB OTG cable and i'm glad to say everythings working fine. I guess the moto cables just not compatible.

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