I decided to create a new thread because I don't think many people read the GPS sticky.
FOR SPRINT USERS:
1. Update to latest rom/radio. (Sprint carrier cab still REQUIRED)
2. Install signed_080516_7500_SPCS_2.04.sa.cab
3. Navigate to \Windows and run PPST.exe. Proceed with the update and let the phone reset.
4. To check if it was successful, go to Settings and under Device Information make sure PRI version is 2.04_003.
You should all get GPS locks within seconds with any software.
THIS IS FOR SPRINT ONLY. DO NOT RUN THIS UPDATE ON ANY OTHER CARRIER OR IT WILL SCREW IT UP.
I am not responsible for anything you do to your device.
Very cool going to try this soon.
wasn't there a reason why we weren't supposed to have a PRI above 1.x? otherwise i'm trying it now, i reflashed to have a clean start.
ill post results in a moment.
it did nothing, just downgraded my PRL to 05xxx, which ended up making me go into digital roaming.
Are you sure you aren't missing something else?
ranmasaotome510 said:
it did nothing, just downgraded my PRL to 05xxx, which ended up making me go into digital roaming.
Are you sure you aren't missing something else?
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weird, that cab does have an old PRL inside.
try this one. and dont forget to run \windows\ppst.exe afterwards.
Thx DCD...your file did worked.
weird, that cab does have an old PRL inside.
try this one. and dont forget to run \windows\ppst.exe afterwards.
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Not sure why, that cab is straight from the sprint customizations. Either way, updated first post.
thanks this worked, good work guys.
GPS is awesome now
Friendly Advisor Notice
People who haven't done this yet, should do so NOW. i get a lock on an average of 15 seconds from cold start, yes... COLD START!
And i get a lock on 9 Satellites INSIDE MY HOUSE. I can only imagine how much faster it would be outside! Cant wait for my 4GB MicroSD Card, so i can load up that TomTom software!
Before, i would get locks in around 2-4 minutes, and i would only lock to as many as 3-4 satellites.
NEW Also this well make your PRL version go to 60612, while this may be recommended, it didn't really help me much in my area, it wouldn't give me optimum EVDO coverage at all.
So be sure to check which PRL works for you, in my case 60711 was a great help.
http://corolada.com/prl/ Here is the site with the PRL's.
To update your PRL, dial ##775#. Enter your MSL Code... then update your PRL by browsing the downloaded PRL File, provided by the site i gave you. Goodluck!
Haha I'm glad you're happy since updating. I don't understand why Sprint users who complain about slow GPS and have read this post haven't done it yet.
Thx gc14... gps now works perfect. What dif between 60612 and 60711 prl?
Thx gc14... gps now works perfect. What dif between 60612 and 60711 prl?
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Always go with the latest available PRL as it updates your roaming capabilities. The only reason this update installs the older PRL is because at the time this PRI update was made available, 60612 was the latest PRL. I'm going to update the first post and include the latest PRL.
I was just reading on ppcgeeks bout PRL's
60612 - latest evdo phone prl
60711 - latest data card prl
Any truth to this?
I was just reading on ppcgeeks bout PRL's
60612 - latest evdo phone prl
60711 - latest data card prl
Any truth to this?
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Yes and no. Data cards get updated to 60711, but it is also compatible with phones.
gc14 said:
I decided to create a new thread because I don't think many people read the GPS sticky.
FOR SPRINT USERS:
1. Update to rom 3.1.2 and radio 3.39.10. (Sprint carrier cab still REQUIRED)
2. Install signed_080407_7500_SPCS_2.03.sa.cab.
3. Navigate to \Windows and run PPST.exe. Proceed with the update and let the phone reset.
4. To check if it was successful, go to Settings and under Device Information make sure PRI version is 2.03_003.
5. This PRI update installs the PRL that was the latest at the time. Dial ##775# and enter your MSL (which can be generated from your hex ESN using GetSPC) and update your PRL to the one I've attached.
You should all get GPS locks within seconds with any software. (Keep GPSMode set to 2, NOT 4 in the registry)
THIS IS FOR SPRINT ONLY. DO NOT RUN THIS UPDATE ON ANY OTHER CARRIER OR IT WILL SCREW IT UP.
I am not responsible for anything you do to your device.
A fix for other carriers is being worked on and tested. Once it's validated, a WIKI page will be published with step by step instructions.
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would i be able to use this on my wife's Touch?
i am on cricket, i have an alltel 6800 though, so I am not using either, would it be bad to use this or even beneficial? I can go back and load the cricket PRL
i just want to check back in and say that this works really well. my mogul gets a fix in no time. i dont know why this thread isn't 10 pages long with all the trouble we've had with GPS in the past. what does this do specificly that makes my mogul get 6 satellites WHILE INSIDE. is it new drivers, reg tweeks, something else? i'd love to know. i'd also would love to know if this would work on my wife's sprint touch. i might just test it out on her phone anyway if i don't get an answer here. thanks again for this fix.
here is a bump for this thread!
this worked like a charm on my mogul....i now can see lots more sats than before...i'm currently running no2chem's 3.49 kitchen
this should be stickied for the sprint users
Iphone dialer
I'm on the iphone dialer and ##775 doesnt do anything (neitehr does ##775#).
Is there another way into the PRL updater?
Sorry I've been away for a bit...
I was just a little busy watching the Celtics DOMINATE their way to an NBA CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!
Detroit may be Hockeytown...but Boston is EVERYTHINGELSETOWN!!!!
Woooooooooooo
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Does anyone know the current bell mobility PRL? My phone seems to be stuck forever in roaming mode. I flashed DCD's bell ROM and my phone is constantly stuck in roaming mode and it shows the carrier as Sprint. Any ideas or do i need to re-program my phone?
origins81 said:
Does anyone know the current bell mobility PRL? My phone seems to be stuck forever in roaming mode. I flashed DCD's bell ROM and my phone is constantly stuck in roaming mode and it shows the carrier as Sprint. Any ideas or do i need to re-program my phone?
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Check this site:
http://www.corolada.com/prl/
Bell PRL?
quantumforce1 said:
Check this site:
http://www.corolada.com/prl/
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Yeah i took a look at it earlier, it's only american carriers
origins81 said:
Yeah i took a look at it earlier, it's only american carriers
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Ahh -- sorry dude. Wish I could have helped.
If a Bell user with a working device has QPST installed on their PC, we could extract their PRL to share with everyone. (and i'd like a copy for my kitchen)
How do I extract the PRL? I haven't flashed the new rom yet and I'm a Bell Mobility user.
Cheers,
Tom
SUCCESS!!
So after hours of searching, it hit me like a ton of bricks....The PRL file has to within the stock rom
After that it was a case of looking up the current PRL
so here you go Bell users.... FLASH AWAY!!!
PS: Remember to delete the .txt extension before upgrading
I am a Bell user, and I flashed yesterday, but I don't think I had any issues with roaming. How can you tell if it's roaming?
The EV icon is replaced by the roaming triangle, normally the phone will warn you that you are in roaming mode if you get an incoming call or if your data connection is about to commence provided you have the roam guard settings set to ON
origins81 said:
Usually the EV icon is replaced by a dark triangle, pretty much after that the phone will constantly warn you that you are in roaming mode if you get an incoming call or if your data connection is about to commence provided you have the roam guard settings set to ON
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Thank you, I don't think mine is roaming then. The phone will tell you with a verbal message (similiar to "The number is long distance. You will now....") prior to you answering it then?
Bell Mobility Users
Bell mobility users who flash the new sprint rom will need to update their radio with the above prl otherwise your phone will constantly roam
How can I help? I heard dcd is looking for a PRL to add to his 3.0 kitchen for Bell Canada. But you will have to guide me cuz I don't know how to extract the PRL. I tried ##228# but it just asks me for an unlock code...
dcd1182 said:
If a Bell user with a working device has QPST installed on their PC, we could extract their PRL to share with everyone. (and i'd like a copy for my kitchen)
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How do you do that? you what to share how2 please! i have the program i only missing how2 extract the PRL. Cheers
I'm with telus and I just do the old *22803 thing and it updates my PRL for me...
The latest version of the PRL is already posted on the first page and i'm sure DCD already has it by now
I have a Bell Mobillity PPC6800 as well. I had updated it with the latest official ROM from UTStarcom's website. Am i at a certain risk because of this if i try to use this latest Sprint radio on it ? (and the DCD 3.01 as well ?)
Any Bell user that took the plunge yet ?
Adi
adisor19 said:
I have a Bell Mobillity PPC6800 as well. I had updated it with the latest official ROM from UTStarcom's website. Am i at a certain risk because of this if i try to use this latest Sprint radio on it ? (and the DCD 3.01 as well ?)
Any Bell user that took the plunge yet ?
Adi
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Already flashed the new radio and built my own rom using DCD's 3.0.0 kitchen. Got a crapload of ram to boot, GPS picks up really quick, and haven't had any lock ups, still testing bluetooth but has been all positives. Granted you flash correctly, there is no risk involved and this place is littered with tutorials
Good luck...
http://rapidshare.com/files/99219142/DCD_3.0.1_Bell.exe
It seems there is a lot of work going on for the 6800. I'm unfortunate enough to own a 5050 and I'm having a hard time getting information. I know that it wasn't offered with bell for very long.
My main objective is to unlock the GPS receiver (why does bell disable this stuff!?) Can someone point me in the right direction?
Kessler said:
It seems there is a lot of work going on for the 6800. I'm unfortunate enough to own a 5050 and I'm having a hard time getting information. I know that it wasn't offered with bell for very long.
My main objective is to unlock the GPS receiver (why does bell disable this stuff!?) Can someone point me in the right direction?
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HTC 5050 A.K.A. Falcon A.K.A. Wallaby, try here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=268
origins81 said:
Already flashed the new radio and built my own rom using DCD's 3.0.0 kitchen. Got a crapload of ram to boot, GPS picks up really quick, and haven't had any lock ups, still testing bluetooth but has been all positives. Granted you flash correctly, there is no risk involved and this place is littered with tutorials
Good luck...
http://rapidshare.com/files/99219142/DCD_3.0.1_Bell.exe
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Everywhere I look I see people talking about problems with different radio versions...copying certain IDS...and it's got me a bit concerned, I'd rather not brick anything.
Would you mind, in step form, telling us how you flashed yours with your custom dcd there?
I'd really appreciate it.
Is it just me or is anyone else unable to roam on verizon towers after the new rom/radio upgrade (3.16/3.27)? I get a recording while roaming "Welcome to Verizon Wireless, We're sorry, we're currently unable to authenticate your phone, Please try your call again. If you continue to experience problems please hang up and dial #8899 from your wireless phone"
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
What PRL do you have?
I never tried making calls but I don't roam on their towers anymore when it comes to data. I just get the triangle and 1x and no web browsers will let me connect to any sites. I kinda just gave up on it since I only needed it in the DC Metro.
I can roam with the new rom. im using prl 60610 and data roaming works as well.
kind of ironic because it didn't work before for me
1X roaming works on Alltel and VZW with 60610 and 3.x ROM here, but EvDO roaming is a no go on Alltel, even though it works fine with 60610 and 2.x ROM.
I guess you are not the only one having the problem. it's a no for me for both prl 60610/60611.
However I am only having the problme at home. I can roam onto vzw at different locations (voice and 1x data) $%^%^&#!$#@!$
People say it may have something to do w/ a-key which is blank on my phone ...
TopGun2000 said:
I guess you are not the only one having the problem. it's a no for me for both prl 60610/60611.
However I am only having the problme at home. I can roam onto vzw at different locations (voice and 1x data) $%^%^&#!$#@!$
People say it may have something to do w/ a-key which is blank on my phone ...
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Using PRL 60610. I downgraded my phone back to radio 1.40 and it worked fine but it will not work with the new one. I guess roaming had to be given up for GPS.
Problem Solved. Seems like Sprint's System wanted to do the PRL update themselves for record purposes because after I got the rep to shoot a new prl (60611) roaming worked. I then downgraded to 60610 (best one for me) and viola it stuck. everything is working now.
keeepinitgansta said:
Problem Solved. Seems like Sprint's System wanted to do the PRL update themselves for record purposes because after I got the rep to shoot a new prl (60611) roaming worked. I then downgraded to 60610 (best one for me) and viola it stuck. everything is working now.
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Ok, so how did you fix this again? Can you give me the current setup of your phone or the steps you took to get to where you are?
Here is what I have done so far:
- Flashed from 2.17/1.47.1 to 3.16/3.27 and got the no Verizon roaming issue you described.
- Figured it was an issue with the new ROM, so I then downgraded back to the stock 2.17/1.47.1 ROM from the HTCAmerica website. (The downgrade wiped all my settings for MDN and MSID) However, the issue persisted.
- I updated the PRL to 60611. Still no luck.
- Called Sprint, who initiated an over the air PRL update of their own to 60611. Still no Verizon roaming. Sprint says they are "investigating" and will get back to me, whatever that means...
The only other thing I can think to do is to downgrade again back to 2.09/1.40.
Also another question, when you view ##778#, does your phone show anything on the "A-Key" page under the "Authentication Key" setting now that you have roaming working? Mine is currently blank, and I have read a couple threads talking about needing to figure it out, but those users all seemed to be Verizon customers. I would be interested to find out if Sprint customers have that setting or not.
This issue is driving me nuts, and any help is greatly appreciated.
Call sprint technical support and tell them you need an "HLR Reload". If they don't know what this is, ask to speak to someone who does.
aatreya said:
Call sprint technical support and tell them you need an "HLR Reload". If they don't know what this is, ask to speak to someone who does.
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Wow. Genius! Got Sprint technical support on the phone and asked for the "HLR Reload." The guy knew exactly what I was talking about and was able to do it right away. I am now able make calls and get data while roaming (currently using 2.17/1.47.1).
Thanks again!
glad to know it worked
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Wow. Genius! Got Sprint technical support on the phone and asked for the "HLR Reload." The guy knew exactly what I was talking about and was able to do it right away. I am now able make calls and get data while roaming (currently using 2.17/1.47.1).
Thanks again!
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wow, now i know what i need to do w/ my 3.16 rom
edit: got a call from spint. the tech guy said that he found an authentication failure on my account and reset it. will test the roaming again when i get home. he also had no clew what the "HLR reload" is...
edit2: whatever reset sprint did at their end seems to work. voice/1x roaming is working now, still no evdo though.
Still wont work for me *sigh*
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Call sprint technical support and tell them you need an "HLR Reload". If they don't know what this is, ask to speak to someone who does.
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I called and had them do this, but i had no luck. Still no EVDO roaming in places where there should be. I can make and recieve roaming call and data roam in 1X but evdo is gone. This is on both the 60610 and 60611 PRL. EVDO roaming worked on both PRL's with the 1.47 radio and 2.17 rom.
Any more ideas?
well I thought I didn't have these problems, but now I'm not certain. I don't think I've ever been able to EVDO roam on verizon, at least not sice I started paying attention which was already after moving to a 2.17 with 1.40 radio and orginal PRL. I know verzion has evdo in this area, but sprint doesn't. Maybe there is no agreement here for evdo becuase of that? I guess it couldn't hurt to try this trick and see if I get it.
I found more problems using 3.16. I did encounter the roaming authentication error. So I called, got the HLR reload. That made things MUCH worse. Now nothing works. My MSID and whatnot are all correct and I see signals, but can't make calls or data connections. Sprint tried some things but nothing worked. I'm going to do a hard reset and see what happens.
Sprint was surpisingly willing to work with me knowing that I am using the test rom though... but in the end still suggested I revert to an official rom when nothing worked out.
Anyway, not sure I'd reccomend the HLR reload on the 3.16... try at your own risk.
holy crap
sorry to hear that
if you get it figured out, lemme know what fixed it.
I suspect sprint just hit the wrong button. I hard rest... still no dice, but I noticed that dialing *2 does work.. normal numbers and network don't. Seems like an authentication issue. I doubt seriously it has anything to do with the rom, but I just flash 2.17, casue otherwise I don't hink I'll get far with sprint.
Now when I try to make it call it tells me the phone has not been activated. (with 3.16 I just got the call end dings imeediately)
SO when I fix this and flash back to 3.16, will I dare to try this again after roaming gets broken again?... tough call.
Edit... still need to fix MDN and MSID in the 2.17 .. more soon.
Edit: fixed MDN and MSID in 2.17... now having the same problem as in 3.16... ding ding ding... no call. Looks like I have to call sprint again.
ON the phone with sprint now. Have rebooted for them a couple of times. This guy is still stumped and he doesn't seem generically ignorant.
I started a new thread for my issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1881522#post1881522
You might want to read it before doing any HLR updates in 3.16 though. I'm on my third rom today and a few hours with sprint tech and I still can't make calls.
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SOLVED... see above thread. It seems they messed me up badly when they did the HRL reload... however.. it doesn't have to be done badly... at least now we know the fix if it happens to someone else.. so don't let my experience stress you too much. Now to upgrade roms again.
and voice roaming works now..
Roaming not working
ahhh!!! after the upgrade, i cannot roam on vzw...
Called and spoke to several reps... no one knows what HLR Reload is... according to them turning the phone off and taking out the battery for a few minutes will force the HLR reload....
I don't know what to do.... These reps are impossible to deal with.. Anyone have any suggestions?
I would prefer this thread not become a "I am getting XYZ HELP!" thread, because it would be off topic. But I know it runs the risk of that because I would like to talk about the choice of Roms that XV6800 owners have used and the pros and cons of them.
I'm pretty sure I've seen the following GPS enabled ROMS on the verizon phones: (in order of complexity)
1. Original leaked ROM
2. No2Chem's nueROM http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17219
3. DCD's 2.3.2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371314
4. nexvisions's http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364043
This section is now expanded to include a longer list of relative information needed to prepair for this process:
I've seen the Easy update thread: (This thread flashes the unlocker and radio in a single step using a ROM installation designed ONLY for a Sprint phone. Some believe this is why ppl have the 15 minute delay before aquiring a signal.)
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.phpHere ?t=17667
You can see documentation for DCD's update from a Verizon Customer here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1973238&postcount=536
Here are the stock roms for recovery purposes (Signed and sealed by Verizon -not rips)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1845171&postcount=13
Here is an unlocker: (also includes exit bl; read the .bat file to learn a lot and get some useful CLI commands)
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9093
Here is the Titan relocker:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=125160
Radio ROM 3.27.00
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362563
"general flashing rule is to start device in bootloader mode first and then flash. Do NOT flash it while it is running WindowsMobile OS."
Here are the generic steps to peform a standard burn from stock (works for some but all numbers should be written down in preparation)
0. WRITE DOWN ALL INFO UNDER ##778
0.1 REMOVE YOUR MicroSD CARD NOW!!!
1. Flash 2.40 unlocker using the Titanunlocker.bat inside the rar file (all files should be extracted to a new directory)
2. Flash DCD 2.3.2 (or preferred rom) different roms will
3. Flash radio 3.27
4. after booting dial a *228 to get the latest programing
That's it. It should be that simple.
If you are stuck, you might just be in the boot loader, use this tool for Verizon phones only to exit the boot loader:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9229
Here's how to recover when it is not:
1. Using a PC, format a microSD card to FAT32.
2. Using winrar or an unzipper, extract the *.nbh file from the ROM upgrade .exe.
3. Copy the *.nbh file to the formatted microSD card
4. Rename the file on the microSD card TITAIMG.nbh.
5. Insert the microSD card into the phone and reset into bootloader.
6. The phone will tell you to press the power button to flash the ROM; do so.
Going into bootloader mode: power, camera, reset all at once.
Hard reset: Press the two dot (bottom menu) keys and hit the reset button, release all after two seconds. (RUMOR: Leaving the SD card in the phone may result in the SD card content being wiped. I don't care to test the rumor.)
I've read loads of threads tonight. My problem is that most of this stuff is slanted to Sprint stuff. I'm creating this as a central place for Verizon update facts. I'd love to hear if things work or if things don't work.
I'm considering flashing my phone tomorrow, (didn't happen yet by choice) but will also be travelling starting that night. Obviously the smart thing to do would be do go without GPS on my adventures, but it would be soo cool to have it working for SxSW just for the geek factor. And that calls to me.
So, here are some of my myths and mythunderstandings:
1. Every Verizon customer who updates their radio has to call into verizon to re-authenticate their phone. But Verizon is pretty cool about that even if you say you were flashing your phone.
2. This is true even if you follow the steps in the easy guide and write everything down it tells you to write down because Verizon uses a GUID generated by the radio rom when it is used for the first time on your phone. Not all areas as of today not every area does this but most and soon all will. It depends upon where you are in their upgrade chains.
3. If you install Radio 3.27, you're a screwed verizon customer because resets (hard and soft) and power ons (?????) will no longer aquire a signal right away. You will be waiting for 15 minutes or longer before you can use your phone again and no one has a working solution to this for Verizon customers. This happens to EVERY verizon customer.
4. People have upgraded to the original leaked rom without a problem (and without that delay) and that allowed them to have working phones possibly because of one or all of the following:
a. It is signed by Verizon and you don't have to unlock your phone?
b. MAYBE it doesn't require the radio upgrade???? (FIRST REPLY STATES THE RADIO IS REQUIRED FOR ALL GPS ROMS)
c. Because it was built using only Verizon stuff it is missing whatever incompatible tool the other kitchens have in them????
d. Because it has WM 6.0 and 6.1 hasn't been tested with Verizon????
5. DCD's rom has all of the MS Office software as an installable option whereas No2Chem's excludes it. Don't know if this includes outlook or not.
6. Both of the Kitchens mentioned above will work with Verizon and they have options that allow you to choose Verizon as an install option branding your phone correctly.
So that is upgrading your verizon phone as I understand it. Am I off too far on anything? I've not seen reports of any bricks yet but I know that is always possible.
So who has tried what ROM and to what degree of success?
BrianLayman said:
I would prefer this thread not become a "I am getting XYZ HELP!" thread, because it would be off topic. But I know it runs the risk of that because I would like to talk about the choice of Roms that XV6800 owners have used and the pros and cons of them.
I'm pretty sure I've seen the following GPS enabled ROMS on the verizon phones:
1. Original leaked ROM
2. DCD 2.3.2 with 3.27 Radio upgrade
3. No2Chem
I've also seen the Easy update thread:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17667
You can see documentation for DCD's update from a Verizon Customer here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1973238&postcount=536
I've read loads of threads tonight and my problem is that most of this stuff is slanted to Sprint stuff. I'm creating this as a central place for Verizon update facts. I'd love to hear if things work or if things don't work. I'm considering flashing my phone tomorrow, but will also be travelling starting that night. Obviously the smart thing to do would be do go without GPS on my adventures, but it would be soo cool to have it working for SxSW just for the geek factor and that calls to me.
So, here are some of my myths and mythunderstandings:
1. Everyone Verizon customer has to call into verizon to re-authenticate their phone. But Verizon is pretty cool about that even if you say you were flashing your phone.
2. This is true even if you follow the steps in the easy guide and write everything down it tells you to write down because Verizon uses a GUID generated by the radio rom when it is used for the first time on your phone. Not all areas as of today not every area does this but most and soon all will. It depends upon where you are in their upgrade chains.
3. If you install Radio 3.27, you're a screwed verizon customer because resets (hard and soft) and power ons (?????) will no longer aquire a signal right away. You will be waiting for 15 minutes or longer before you can use your phone again and no one has a working solution to this for Verizon customers. This happens to EVERY verizon customer.
4. People have upgraded to the original leaked rom without a problem (and without that delay) and that allowed them to have working phones possibly because of one or all of the following:
a. It is signed by Verizon and you don't have to unlock your phone?
b. MAYBE it doesn't require the radio upgrade????
c. Because it was built using only Verizon stuff it is missing whatever incompatible tool the other kitchens have in them????
d. Because it has WM 6.0 and 6.1 hasn't been tested with Verizon????
5. DCD's rom has all of the MS Office software as an installable option whereas No2Chem's excludes it. Don't know if this includes outlook or not.
6. Both of the Kitchens mentioned above will work with Verizon and they have options that allow you to choose Verizon as an install option branding your phone correctly.
So that is upgrading your verizon phone as I understand it. Am I off too far on anything? I've not seen reports of any bricks yet but I know that is always possible.
So who has tried what ROM and to what degree of success?
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1. There are people who say they did not need to call verizon, but i did.
2. this is mostly true, some areas still use an akey but verizon will gladly give that to you, just tell them you did a hard reset.
3. the roms that work with GPS require the 3.27 radio... I had no delay with using the phone after any flash (i've done several) there is a delay for GPS to work the first time
4.a. original leaked rom was from sprint
4.b. the radio upgrade to 3.27 is required or GPS will not work and neither will any rom that is based on this radio
4.c. again original leaked rom is from sprint and contains no verizon stuff, dcd broke down the leaked rom and made available to everyone else
4.d. the titan or xv6800 shipped with 6.0 (6.1 to release soon for verizon, although i have it now)
5. the outlook portion of office is standard on all pocket pc phone
6. True...you must choose your carrier or you won't be able to connect to your towers properly
that being said, I use a rom built with dcd's kitchen and am very pleased, if you want one with lots of stuff you may want to try nexvisions rom
Hope this helps
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that being said, I use a rom built with dcd's kitchen and am very pleased, if you want one with lots of stuff you may want to try nexvisions rom
Hope this helps
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Thanks rmacl! That helps a lot. Reading through a few hundred pages of facts for different versions mixed in with cries for help and resolved issues can make the process, for someone who thought a kitchen was a room till a very short time ago, pretty daunting no matter how tech savy they are they are.
I appreciate your help in solidifying the details.
I will then be upgrading my phone tomorrow. I plan on following the easy update post listed above exactly as it is written.
I saw one post of a person who had done the same thing EXCEPT that they took a break and installed SPL 2.40-olipro. They had the 15 minute pause in aquiring the signal. So, I am wondering if that is a contributing factor. I'm thinking that the "Sprint unofficial 3.16 Release" includes an upgraded boot the spl/bootloader.
If this is a bad plan, or if it is not how you did it successfully and you are willing to share the steps you followed, please let me know.
Thanks again for your help.
EDIT: nexvisions rom pretty closely matches my current config. And what I don't have from that rom I like. The rest of the stuff I have installed should be enabled when I run a sprite backup restore. Thanks for the suggestion
Just did this today-
I'm using NexVision's Hybrid ROM(version based on dcd's latest 2.3.1).
I did the following:
1. Update SPL app
2. Loaded above ROM
3. Loaded latest radio
4. *228 'ed to get programming
5. did IOTA for some reason
6. No outgoing calls. Could not authenticate. Had to call VZW and they got me going in a few minutes. (the MSL for my phone i got from GetSPC.exe didn't work)
So, bottom line- My 6800 is working just fine with NexVisions Hybrid right now.
Anything else you'd like to know?
I was up and running on a DCD 2.3.2 cooked ROM and 3.27 radio with issues acquiring signal. Some have implied that running the "Easy Guide" instructions on PPCGeeks would resolve the delay in acquiring signal issues.
I couldn't get the leaked 3.16 ROM loaded using the 1.06 Bootloader, so I loaded the 2.40 Bootloader and then successfully loaded the leaked 3.16.
This put my phone on Sprint. According to the guide, running DCDs ROM that I cooked using the kitchen would reset the phone to Verizon (by selecting Verizon as my carrier.) This didn't work. Right now my phone is running the DCD ROM, 3.27 radio, and I can't get into the PST to edit the MSID and MDN.
Guess I'm going stock and upgrading again.
Am I the only one or is the fact that this phone is carried by at least 2.5(sorry alltell) major carriers a problem. We get people, admittedly I almost was one, that flash their phones with roms for the wrong carrier and then wonder what's going on. One would hope that you could pick up a cdma phone and use it on a CDMA network but that's just not true. There are tons of documented and undocumented crap holes that deviate from the spec because of the ad-hoc hobbled together system that is the United States cellular system. I would suggest splitting sprint and verizon but that would further fragment an already super fragmented market.
I am not sure the state of your phone or how to go about fixing it but the easy guide does seem to be for sprint users and not for Verizon. There is yet to be an uprgrade sanctioned for us - I hear it's coming, but I heard that with the Samsung i730 - and it took 9 months to get from 'soon' to released.
VX6800 DCD2.3.1 Working great
Ok I am an engineer on the network and perhaps Murphy got me to be over prepared and so I had the least problems. Started stock, flashed 2.40 unlocker, flashed DCD 2.3.1, flashed radio 3.27, booted back up and worked perfectly. I did write down everything, and I do mean everything that could be gotten in the PST ( by the way, the MSL on Verizon units is 000000 and no GetMSL is required) so I did not need that. I called VZW data support and told them that I was about to do a hard reset and had heard that sometimes the A key got messed up, so he gave it to me up front just in case, and because I had it ready is why I suppose I did not need it either. My signal came up perfectly, my PRL and provisioning data did need a *228 option 1 to get it back in, my GPS came right up fast and accurate, could make and receive calls right away, MMS worked perfectly right away. The only problem that I have with the new ROM is that the 'box type' mini-usb to 3.5 mm adapter with the mini-usb pass thru does not work properly anymore, but my stock one and my pigtail adapters do work, so it is somthing in the adapter design. Also SelectRadio 4.02 drops out as if the data connection goes down and back up, but it does not. I look at the PPP data and it is perfect, and when I just put my channels in Resco Pocket Radio all is well.
Well, I'm a long experienced IT guy with a background of working in cellular....so I'm not exactly ignorant on the subject.
madman, I did the exact steps you did, with the exception of writing down every setting in the PST (just the MSID and MDN). Yet my phone takes 15-20 minutes to acquire signal. Was there anything you had to adjust besides the MSID and the MDN?
To complete my story from my last post, I was able to recover back to a VZW stock ROM and try again. Second time around I didn't let the Sprint cutomizations run. That fixed the problem of my phone being "Sprintized". However, it didn't help with my issues acquiring signal (which was the entire reason I went through this exercise.) BLAH.
Having 1 set of instruction for Sprint and Verizon is fine, but what we need is are people from each side working together on the documentation. Right now everything seems to be completed by Sprint users.
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To complete my story from my last post, I was able to recover back to a VZW stock ROM and try again. Second time around I didn't let the Sprint cutomizations run. That fixed the problem of my phone being "Sprintized". However, it didn't help with my issues acquiring signal (which was the entire reason I went through this exercise.) BLAH.
Having 1 set of instruction for Sprint and Verizon is fine, but what we need is are people from each side working together on the documentation. Right now everything seems to be completed by Sprint users.
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I'm willing to bet it's the fact that you used a sprint rom. Even though it said you weren't sprintized I bet there are still sprint ghosts in your phone. These things aren't well documented nor are they straight forward. I am sure that there is something in the sprint rom that is causing your problem (it's the only thing that is different from stories of people who have been successful)
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I'm willing to bet it's the fact that you used a sprint rom. Even though it said you weren't sprintized I bet there are still sprint ghosts in your phone. These things aren't well documented nor are they straight forward. I am sure that there is something in the sprint rom that is causing your problem (it's the only thing that is different from stories of people who have been successful)
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Well, what you are saying is basically what I've suspected all along. I think the 3.27 radio is basically a rip from a Sprint ROM...right?
This is why I am trying to get a VZW tech to review ALL of the PST settings with me. She was gonna call back, but stupid me, I think I reset my phone and missed her call. Grrrrrr
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Well, what you are saying is basically what I've suspected all along. I think the 3.27 radio is basically a rip from a Sprint ROM...right?
This is why I am trying to get a VZW tech to review ALL of the PST settings with me. She was gonna call back, but stupid me, I think I reset my phone and missed her call. Grrrrrr
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What I am saying is the Sprint Rom is for Sprint. The radio is a radio from what I can tell. It doesn't seem to be setup to be one company or another with the correct rom. However what you are doing is taking a rom that is built by another carrier for their network and trying to use it on your network. Use a verizon intended rom (Hint: not sprint) and the 3.27 radio and you should be fine.
One would hope that you could just strip the sprint part out of their roms and run it on the VZW network but we all know these devices are more hodgepodge then strict implementation of standards.
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What I am saying is the Sprint Rom is for Sprint. The radio is a radio from what I can tell. It doesn't seem to be setup to be one company or another with the correct rom. However what you are doing is taking a rom that is built by another carrier for their network and trying to use it on your network. Use a verizon intended rom (Hint: not sprint) and the 3.27 radio and you should be fine.
One would hope that you could just strip the sprint part out of their roms and run it on the VZW network but we all know these devices are more hodgepodge then strict implementation of standards.
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There is no Verizon intended ROM that I'm aware of that supports the 3.27 radio.
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6. No outgoing calls. Could not authenticate. Had to call VZW and they got me going in a few minutes. (the MSL for my phone i got from GetSPC.exe didn't work)
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getspc.exe is for sprint only
the msl code for verizon is "000000" minus the "'s
I've added a bunch of info to the first post. I haven't had time to do the flash till now. After I pack tomorrow, I should be able to do it. Plus I wanted to have all my ducks in a row for this process. I'm now fairly confident I know most of the failure points in the process and how to recover from them... we'll see.
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There is no Verizon intended ROM that I'm aware of that supports the 3.27 radio.
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Ummmmm NexVision IS a verizon user and his ROM is most certainly built for verizon above others, sprint and alltel second. DCD also has an option in his kitchen for verizon. as for No2Chem... I havnt used his rom so I couldnt tell you for sure. But I assure you as I am alive and breathing, there are ROMs intended for the Big Red V, I know I use one and Love it. I messed up when I first flashed, but never had to call VZW about it, just reflashed to stock then tried again.
As stated, I used both DCD and NexVision and both activated, called and surfed on the network. If you have any specific questions, I will gladly field them, Specialy since I have insurance on the phone... If it hoses, i will break and replace it.
Launching my first rom flashing...
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Ummmmm NexVision IS a verizon user and his ROM is most certainly built for verizon above others, sprint and alltel second. DCD also has an option in his kitchen for verizon. as for No2Chem... I havnt used his rom so I couldnt tell you for sure. But I assure you as I am alive and breathing, there are ROMs intended for the Big Red V, I know I use one and Love it. I messed up when I first flashed, but never had to call VZW about it, just reflashed to stock then tried again.
As stated, I used both DCD and NexVision and both activated, called and surfed on the network. If you have any specific questions, I will gladly field them, Specialy since I have insurance on the phone... If it hoses, i will break and replace it.
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Ummmmmm, you completely missed the point.
So is there any word when Verizon will release an update similar to what we are able to do with the new ROMs and Radio?
I mean if it's going to be a month away, I may just, if it's going to be 3 months or forever then I guess I'll have to try it.
It seems either it works perfect, or it doesn't, and some people don't need to enter in an akey? Interesting...
I went from a stock XV6800 (Verizon) to the 2.40 unlocker, the 3.27 radio and a ROM built off of DCD's 2.3.2 kitchen. I did not need to record *any* of the phone's programming info. After flashing, *228 successfully set up the phone and I was able to start making/receiving calls.
"3. If you install Radio 3.27, you're a screwed verizon customer because resets (hard and soft) and power ons (?????) will no longer aquire a signal right away. You will be waiting for 15 minutes or longer before you can use your phone again and no one has a working solution to this for Verizon customers. This happens to EVERY verizon customer."
This seems not to be true, because I'm a Verizon customer and it didn't happen for me. I get both a cell and data signal right away on either reset (soft, anyway; haven't had to try hard yet) or power-on.
I'm a happy camper so far, with the only glitch being one unexplained soft reset one morning while the phone was waking up to execute an alarm. The phone reset instead and the alarm sounded when it came back up. Hasn't happened again since.
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No, I can verify that it works for Telus as well.
I cannot get my new phone to get a signal after the following:
1. 2.4 unlocker (Hard-spl-mfg.exe)
2. Sprint Rom (RUU_TITAN_SPRINT_WWE_3.35.651.2_RS_TITAN_3.35.04_4350H_SPCS_AM_Ship.exe)
3. DCD Rom (DCD_3.0.1_Verizon.exe)
I believe I followed all of the instructions and upgraded my XV6800 from stock to DCD 3.01. When I finally get booted up I can never get a signal acquired. I can dial *22802 and let it connect and then I get a signal, but even then I get an error about the #777 internet access, so something is wrong. I new A-Keys and made sure all of my info was written down and correct.
Is there a way to start over from stock? Can I relock and put the stock Verizon on and try again?
Help!
did you.....
When you ran in the Sprint ROM did you let the customization run ? If so then there is the problem, as it overwrites verizon parms with the sprint. That can be fixed by getting the VZW PRL and running it in with the EPST, then set your home SID/NID also in EPST, then you should have VZW signal and not roaming, then a *228 should reprovision the rest. If you did not write down your info before you flashed then you missed a step.
I was under the assumption that the Sprint customizations don't run until I tap the welcome screen which I did not. I immediately installed DCD 3.01. I'm returning it to stock to see if I can get a signal then starting over.
Where can I get the VZW PRL? I will search now.
ok then they did not run
well I guess they did not run but maybe your PRL and provisioning data got wiped, MSID, MID, SID/NID, you know that stuff. There are stock VZW ROM images out there but my methode would fix it safer and easier as I am sure that the signal issue is a missing or wrong PRL. Go into EPST (##778) and select 'view' and then look at PRL which should show 50989 or somthing close as that is the current VZW PRL, a different number would be someone elses overwritten on yours, blank is no PRL which is also badd. then look at SID/NID where the first set should be populated. If you fix just these 2 things then you should get back on VZW signal and be able to provision it. Going with a full restore is like crushing and reconstituting your car when it only needs a wash and the ash trays emptied. If you do still want to though, the stock images do exist here.
I relocked and put the Verizon stock back on and went through the setup procedures and the phone works great back at stock.
I started the update over.
Installed the Unlocker.
Installed Sprint ROM. No customizations allowed.
Installed DCD 3.01
Signal does not acquire but will after 15 minutes or so and all is fine. As soon as I soft-reset.. no signal. The PRL is the 50989 the latest. All of my MSID and other numbers match.
Maybe it's the DCD 3.01. I don't know where to find 3.0.0.
I'll keep searching. Thanks madman34 for your help!!!!
I've noticed that after waiting for the signal 15 minutes, everything works wonderfully. I've tried changing the MIP MODE over and over but that hasn't worked.
Anyone with DCD 3.01 and the new Sprint ROM Radio able to get a signal without waiting 15 minutes?
HELP!
Yep, I get signal within 3 seconds.... Not sure what the issue is with your phone....? I am currently a Verizon user....
I am a Verizon user with DCD's 3.0.1 and upon soft reset get a signal within 2-3 seconds.
Hi guys, just to let you know I'm in the same boat at the OP with a Verizon phone and No2Chem's 5055. I'll start a new thread with a more descriptive title and see if we can get some additional help.
KeithGP said:
I relocked and put the Verizon stock back on and went through the setup procedures and the phone works great back at stock.
I started the update over.
Installed the Unlocker.
Installed Sprint ROM. No customizations allowed.
Installed DCD 3.01
Signal does not acquire but will after 15 minutes or so and all is fine. As soon as I soft-reset.. no signal. The PRL is the 50989 the latest. All of my MSID and other numbers match.
Maybe it's the DCD 3.01. I don't know where to find 3.0.0.
I'll keep searching. Thanks madman34 for your help!!!!
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Did you try the *22802 and hanging up? Geckotek mentioned that as a fix to the problem.
I also found that the customizations tried to run after installing DCD 3.0.1, did you let those run?
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Hi guys, just to let you know I'm in the same boat at the OP with a Verizon phone and No2Chem's 5055. I'll start a new thread with a more descriptive title and see if we can get some additional help.
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What city do you have service in?
I did try the *28802 and it didn't fix it for the N2C rom. Man, I'm getting depressed over this.... I'm in middle Tennessee (Cookeville), great cell coverage for both Sprint and Verizon.
Osteo said:
I did try the *28802 and it didn't fix it for the N2C rom. Man, I'm getting depressed over this.... I'm in middle Tennessee (Cookeville), great cell coverage for both Sprint and Verizon.
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is your PRL 50989?
http://www.corolada.com/prl/
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is your PRL 50989?
http://www.corolada.com/prl/
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I've gone back to stock so that's what it says now. During my 1st call to tech support they had me go over many of the EPST settings and I think that's what it said but I was so perturbed I don't recall. I'll try again (was thinking of trying DCD's most recent as he has carrier specific ROM's) and if I loose the radio, I'll check again. Thanks for the input....
Is the fundamental issue here that your installing a SPRINT rom on a VERIZON VX6800?
Why not try installing a VERIZON rom?
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Why not try installing a VERIZON rom?
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If I wait for VZ to release a WM6.1 ROM with GPS I could be old and gray... I'll try DCD's most recent with VZ ROM and Sprint Radio tomorrow...
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Is the fundamental issue here that your installing a SPRINT rom on a VERIZON VX6800?
Why not try installing a VERIZON rom?
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Spreeway, there is no such creature that enables RevA and GPS. These are enable by using the new sprint ROM (to upgrade the radio) and then a custom rom (DCD!) for verizon.
Quick update. Resolved. It was a prl issue, rolled back to an older prl and all is well. I guess I'll have to wait for an official rom from VZW to get the latest prl but all is working now.... How odd.
I am using 50989 with 3.0.1. Now that you're back to an older prl, dial *228 NOT *22802 and then press 2 at the prompt. Update the prl OTA and see if it works this time.
Tried and failed... Yesterday, once I figured out about the older PRL, I upgraded and called for a new A key. Tech support updated the A key on their side and he had me run *228 option one and when it rebooted I had no signal. I checked the PRL and it was 51020! They must have just released a new one... Rolled back with the tech on the line, didn't need a new A key and all is well since.
I still can't figure out why any of the Nationwide PRL's drop my signal but as my plan has coast to coast no roaming, I think if I get outside of my home zone it should still pick up towers (I hope but I dont travel much).
Also, I can't figure out why I can't change the roaming options in the phone options. It currently has no check infront of 'Sprint only' or 'roam only' and if I check either I loose the cell radio. Very odd!
I have a PPC6800 flashed with one of Ryan's Alltel 6.5 ROMS (Great job Ryan!). The phone worked great in my home area after the flash, but I'm currently on vacation and cannot get a EVDO signal in Orlando! I get decent signal for voice in most places, but really just enought to make calls, lots of "can you hear me now" in the conversations. Verizons maps show that they cover this area completely so I went by the Verizon store to see if they could update the phone. The tech guy said that the phone was still really an Alltel phone and there was nothing that he could do. (he was kinda a jerk, didn't appear to even want to help) I use the data connection alot and have become very dependent on it to stay in touch with my office, but with my current 1x connection, email is about all it's good for.
My questions are:
Can I apply the Verizon version of the ROM to the phone without bricking it?
If not, is there something I can do myself to "update" to tap into Verizon's EVDO network?
Thanks for any help.
you can start by updating your prl *228 option 1 or 2 (dont remember)
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you can start by updating your prl *228 option 1 or 2 (dont remember)
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Yeah, I tried that, but since I'm already out of my home area, it doesn't work. All I get is "programming unsuccessful" or something like that.
Alltel's pda support is pretty good. Call in & get one of them on the line. They will try & make you do the *228 thing. Also check your setting for Home Only/Roam and see if that makes a difference at all.
dlundy said:
I have a PPC6800 flashed with one of Ryan's Alltel 6.5 ROMS (Great job Ryan!). The phone worked great in my home area after the flash, but I'm currently on vacation and cannot get a EVDO signal in Orlando! I get decent signal for voice in most places, but really just enought to make calls, lots of "can you hear me now" in the conversations. Verizons maps show that they cover this area completely so I went by the Verizon store to see if they could update the phone. The tech guy said that the phone was still really an Alltel phone and there was nothing that he could do. (he was kinda a jerk, didn't appear to even want to help) I use the data connection alot and have become very dependent on it to stay in touch with my office, but with my current 1x connection, email is about all it's good for.
My questions are:
Can I apply the Verizon version of the ROM to the phone without bricking it?
If not, is there something I can do myself to "update" to tap into Verizon's EVDO network?
Thanks for any help.
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Lol WOW.. If your Carrier is Verizon why the heck would you flash my Alltel ROM?? WTF do you think its an Alltel ROM for?? Its not a stock ROM it is a Custom ROM meant to flash on any TITAN(mogul, ppc6800).. It is fully programmed (besides PST/QPST a user has to program that memory region of the phone themselves) for the Carrier..
What you should have done was take your "Alltel Branded" PPC6800 and flashed the olipro2.40 unlocked bootloader, then flash a Custom Verizon ROM, then flash a gps radio 3.35 and up, then hard reset and pull battery for a couple minutes. Make sure the phone is UNPLUGGED and boot it up. Now access PST and Program it for VERIZON, load your local Verizon PRL, and update the items so phone resets. When it boots back up you want to access DMR (diagnostic mode) and plug it into the computer and Program QPST for VERIZON, make sure everything is set for Verizon you have to do some searching.. Also make sure to do the GPS one tab last and write to phone while still in that TAB, do not leave the GPS one tab until after its completed. Now unplug the phone and open task manager and close DMR, now soft reset the phone. Keep it UNPLUGGED and when it boots up access the internet to set it up for the first time.
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Lol WOW.. If your Carrier is Verizon why the heck would you flash my Alltel ROM?? WTF do you think its an Alltel ROM for?? Its not a stock ROM it is a Custom ROM meant to flash on any TITAN(mogul, ppc6800).. It is fully programmed (besides PST/QPST a user has to program that memory region of the phone themselves) for the Carrier..
What you should have done was take your "Alltel Branded" PPC6800 and flashed the olipro2.40 unlocked bootloader, then flash a Custom Verizon ROM, then flash a gps radio 3.35 and up, then hard reset and pull battery for a couple minutes. Make sure the phone is UNPLUGGED and boot it up. Now access PST and Program it for VERIZON, load your local Verizon PRL, and update the items so phone resets. When it boots back up you want to access DMR (diagnostic mode) and plug it into the computer and Program QPST for VERIZON, make sure everything is set for Verizon you have to do some searching.. Also make sure to do the GPS one tab last and write to phone while still in that TAB, do not leave the GPS one tab until after its completed. Now unplug the phone and open task manager and close DMR, now soft reset the phone. Keep it UNPLUGGED and when it boots up access the internet to set it up for the first time.
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Ryan, I normally agree with you 100%, but I don't think that's the case here. I'm pretty sure he's an Alltel customer that is confused because of Verizon's recent purchase of Alltel.
Basically, Verizon is not going to be fully taking Alltel phones onto their network...ever. They are still Alltel phones. BUT there are new PRLs out there which will allow you to completely utilize the entire Verizon (and Sprint, too) tower structure.
So what he should do is still with the Alltel ROM. And because Alltel gives the 6800 their 3xxxx series PRLs and not the higher quality 4xxxx series, he needs to donwload the best PRL and update it manually.
Here's a link to a page where you can download the latest PRL 40050. There are instructions on the page to show you how o install. The one change I've had to do is instead of simply ##775, I had to do ##775#.
http://www.the-answerman.com/sidlist/prl/index.asp
Good luck!
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Ryan, I normally agree with you 100%, but I don't think that's the case here. I'm pretty sure he's an Alltel customer that is confused because of Verizon's recent purchase of Alltel.
Basically, Verizon is not going to be fully taking Alltel phones onto their network...ever. They are still Alltel phones. BUT there are new PRLs out there which will allow you to completely utilize the entire Verizon (and Sprint, too) tower structure.
So what he should do is still with the Alltel ROM. And because Alltel gives the 6800 their 3xxxx series PRLs and not the higher quality 4xxxx series, he needs to donwload the best PRL and update it manually.
Here's a link to a page where you can download the latest PRL 40050. There are instructions on the page to show you how o install. The one change I've had to do is instead of simply ##775, I had to do ##775#.
http://www.the-answerman.com/sidlist/prl/index.asp
Good luck!
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Thanks for trying to clear things up but its still a little inconclusive. You said he is an Alltel Customer, you also said that Verizon bought Alltel.. Now remember he says he has a "Alltel Branded" TITAN.
If Verizon bought Alltel that means the Carrier Alltel still exists, it wasnt a merger correct?
Ok then, if he has a Alltel TITAN, and he is an Alltel Customer, with my Alltel ROM. Why even mention that VERIZON will not take Alltel phones onto their network??? You said he is an Alltel customer, and he has a Genuine Alltel TITAN, so he would be activating the Genuine Alltel TITAN on Alltel..
I was confused because of all this talk about Verizon maps, verizon store, etc.... I see what you mean about his PRL, so hopefully he updates to the 4xxxx series and his issues vanish. But wow what confusing posts..
Hopefully the Verizon, Alltel purchase doesnt affect my Alltel or Verizon ROMs from working properly. I wouldnt be suprised though..
I think the downloaded PRL should do the trick. I used to work for Alltels data support and they cannot help unless you are on network. If you are roaming on another carriers tower then nothing can be done to manually push a new prl through to the phone. I know from experience that Orlando/Kissimmee area is a tricky area. The issue is that Alltels PRLs are very crappy. There are towers in the area which will not incur you roaming charges, but for whatever reason, the phones will not choose to connect to. I forget the SID of the towers in the area which will get you 3-4 bars of EVDO coverage. What I have done before while I am there is to keep checking your phone to see if it picks up on those towers (it will from time to time). Go and check the current SID number and then set that as your home SID and put the phone in home only mode, which will lock you into those group of towers while you are in that area. Of course, if you leave the area you will want to set your phone back to your normal home SID and take the phone out of home only mode. Hopefully the PRL update via that download link above will help you, but if it doesn't then try this method. I will warn you that if you get the wrong tech on the phone and they try and help you update your phone, then they could make matters worst for you.
so, like i said on post #2 update your prl!!! by any means.
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...I was confused because of all this talk about Verizon maps, verizon store, etc.... I see what you mean about his PRL, so hopefully he updates to the 4xxxx series and his issues vanish. But wow what confusing posts..
Hopefully the Verizon, Alltel purchase doesnt affect my Alltel or Verizon ROMs from working properly. I wouldnt be suprised though..
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LOL, if my post was confusing it's because I'm pretty confused. I went to the Verizon store for several reasons.
I am out of my home area and the nearest Alltel Store is 75 miles away (Tampa,FL).
My Home Store is now a Verizon Store.
I recieved a letter telling me that I was now on the Verizon Network.
When I dial a wrong number I get a Verizon recording.
I heard that Verizon bought Alltel
When I got to the Verizon store, they told me
I was still an Alltel customer
Verizon doesn't carry a phone llike mine (PPC6800)
My phone was a pocket pc phone not a smart phone (yes that's what he said)
There was nothing he could do.
Call Alltel tech Support (he was kind enough to give me their number).
The Alltel guy, though courteous and seemingly genuine in his efforts to help, could not. He even mentioned that he had been in Orlando recently and had the same problem. His only recommendation was to take the battery out overnight so everything would clear and maybe when it reconnected it would update the PRLs.
My apologies for not being more clear.
On a positive note, I took btonetbone's advice and updated the PRL,(this is what I'd hoped the Verizon tech could do) and I am currently getting EVDO connection, at least the status indicator says so. I'm not getting a very good signal where I'm at so the speed is not great. 267 DOWN, 314 UP (oddly enough) on a Speakeasy speed test. I'll see how it works tomorrow when I can get a better signal and know more then.
Thanks to all who have responded, I understand things a little better now.
RyanMogul6800 said:
Lol WOW.. If your Carrier is Verizon why the heck would you flash my Alltel ROM?? WTF do you think its an Alltel ROM for?? Its not a stock ROM it is a Custom ROM meant to flash on any TITAN(mogul, ppc6800).. It is fully programmed (besides PST/QPST a user has to program that memory region of the phone themselves) for the Carrier..
What you should have done was take your "Alltel Branded" PPC6800 and flashed the olipro2.40 unlocked bootloader, then flash a Custom Verizon ROM...
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Had the Alltel ROM not worked so well in my home area that's exactly what I would have done. Well.... It's exactly what I would have done after coming here and finding out how to do it.
Thanks for your hard work...
No problem I am glad you got it sorted out, those speeds are better than nothing at all so you are getting somewhere. Also I breezed by your compliments on my work but thanks for the compliments.
Members in general are great here, very knowledgeable and persistent. This is literally the best forum around.. Too bad they dont go the "thanks button" route though that would be magnificent.