i upgraded the rom and then uses the spb system backup to restore previous programs and settings however when it got through updating, i now have an issue with admin rights!!!
i now have my personal emails and text message folder locked because my "company does not allow personal usage".... this is my personal phone, what happened?!
You'll probably need to either re-flash your phone with the new rom and load things manually, or flash to the version you had previously and load your settings with spb. Using SPB to load settings & programs across different versions of the operating system can have unexpected results.
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i upgraded the rom and then uses the spb system backup to restore previous programs and settings however when it got through updating, i now have an issue with admin rights!!!
i now have my personal emails and text message folder locked because my "company does not allow personal usage".... this is my personal phone, what happened?!
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I don't think this approach is advisable for getting your settings back. That is my guess why the networking is funky. It is best to use UC to reload settings, files, and cabs after an upgrade/hard reset and you will know it is right.
thanks... .i will try to just put all my programs on there manually one by one and see how that works instead of using the spbsoftware backup.
dolla, you made the exact same post in the Sprint Update thread. Please don't cross post and create new threads when they're not needed.
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Hi All,
I have a noob question and I hope gurus out there can help.
How do you all deal with backup/restore of different settings?
I spent a lot of time reading about UC today, and I managed to make it work for installing CABs and folders.
1) TF3D Settings (contacts/mail tab/programs tab)
2) Standard WM6 settings (such as notifications, buttons, menus) <proxml?>
3) Active Sync Partnership Settings (<-- Think you can use SKTOOLS, but haven't tried)
I am aware of PIM Backup, but when I restore from it TF3D cannot detect the restored mail folders.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi All,
I have a noob question and I hope gurus out there can help.
How do you all deal with backup/restore of different settings?
I spent a lot of time reading about UC today, and I managed to make it work for installing CABs and folders.
1) TF3D Settings (contacts/mail tab/programs tab)
2) Standard WM6 settings (such as notifications, buttons, menus) <proxml?>
3) Active Sync Partnership Settings (<-- Think you can use SKTOOLS, but haven't tried)
I am aware of PIM Backup, but when I restore from it TF3D cannot detect the restored mail folders.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi I'm no guru and I'm keen to see what others have to say in regards to your questions.
I struggle to be able to get most things to back up correctly.
I use PIM back up before I flash a new rom.
I am able to get it to restore my contacts and my messages fine but that's about it. One problem I always find is if I use PIM to restore contacts before using active sync and outlook I get duplicate contacts and birthdays every time. So make sure you sync with your PC before running PIM backup/restore.
I've never been able to get anything like settings, preferences or button settings to restore.
I've also tried sprite backup but never been able to work out what it actually does. It uses about 80mb storage and takes forever yet seems to do nothing.
One thing I have read is that most people recommend not backing up or restoring personal (messages/contacts is ok) settings when using different roms.
I maybe wrong.
I've just created a folder on my SD card with all my favourite programs in it. Nowdays it doesn't take long to get back up and running after flashing to a new rom
Lets wait for some of the higher powers to reply
joymike123 said:
Hi All,
I have a noob question and I hope gurus out there can help.
How do you all deal with backup/restore of different settings?
I spent a lot of time reading about UC today, and I managed to make it work for installing CABs and folders.
1) TF3D Settings (contacts/mail tab/programs tab)
2) Standard WM6 settings (such as notifications, buttons, menus) <proxml?>
3) Active Sync Partnership Settings (<-- Think you can use SKTOOLS, but haven't tried)
I am aware of PIM Backup, but when I restore from it TF3D cannot detect the restored mail folders.
Thanks in advance.
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I just got the Fuze and I was wondering the same thing. I already downloaded and installed the .cab file to change my clock and theme. And I was wondering whether or not I should back up my programs, files, contacts, etc.??
Restore 101 after flashing
As a ROM flashing junkie I tried several ways how to setup my phone and restore all settings and data within 30 min. or less.
First of all you should know your phone and you should know what you NEED and what's NICE TO HAVE.
Check which apps have to run on the phone (mainly dialers, skins, task managers, g-sensor and backlight apps).
Install your apps which need not to run on the phone on the SD card.
Figure out which apps HAVE to be installed and which one are quiet happy with a "send link to programs". You may wonder how many can be run that way (WeFi, Total Commander, DiamondTV, WVD, SPBOnline, MSLiveSearch, PHM Regedit, HiCalc even SKTools and WK-Task to name a few).
Either understand what UC does and prepare your sdconfig.txt up front or use SASHIMI (very easy to set up! You just copy the cabs to the auto or auto\sc directory). You may import your owner and reg key entries as well but be careful, pending how the ROM is cooked reg entry import can be fatal!
PIM backup using SPB Backup as software and just save on the SD card.
I use SPBBackup because I never ran into any compatibility issues from my Tilt times swapping between winmo 5 and winmo6 and winmo 6 to winmo6.1.
Furthermore SPBBackup creates a self running exe, no need to install any software to restore.
Flash ROM or hard reset
Restore PIM
Install Sashimi
Open Sashimi and install apps (either on device or SD - see above)
Soft reset
Open FileExplorer or TotalCommander go to "SD\Program Files" and send shortcuts to Programs
Assign Programs in Programs Tab under TF3D
Add your custom weather cities.
Set up a simple numeric password and a timeout to 12 h!
This may be very important because winmo has a bug. In case you do not apply a hack, active sync will automatically assign the email password as boot password (enforced security policy). In case you happen to have an alphanumeric password and didn't set a "complex" password under the lock feature you wont be able to unlock your phone after a soft reset because you wont have the capability to enter alphanum. values!!!!
Soft reset
Open active sync and set it up to sync with a server (in case you use a corp. email account).
Soft reset
Done
Some UC allows you to install selectively on SD or device but rather than editing a txt file I copy the apps I need in a directory and let software install it.
Note on full restore:
SPB Backup and other programs as well do have a "restore after ROM upgrade" function where you may restore ALL programs and settings to the phone. Even though there is a feature "do not overwrite existing settings" and "do not restore password" in a lot of cases this restore simply fails. I assume that this is based on the different cores of winmo the chefs use and I ran into too many problems as in "wrong password" or hangs on certain applications that I do a PIM backup/restore ONLY.
Hi!
I have the Energy rom on my TP.
I want to upgrade to the last rom avaliable all the time.
If i use a software like Resco Backup, is it possible to perform a full backup, flash a new rom and then restore my full settings and customizations and aply to the new rom??
thanks!
tntnt said:
Hi!
I have the Energy rom on my TP.
I want to upgrade to the last rom avaliable all the time.
If i use a software like Resco Backup, is it possible to perform a full backup, flash a new rom and then restore my full settings and customizations and aply to the new rom??
thanks!
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You can chose whatever backup software you want. Sprite offers a restore after ROM upgrade, so does SPB but be assured that in 8 out of 10 cases it will FAIL, your brand spanking new ROM will be messed up, sluggish, unresponsive.
The only way these backups DO work is a 1:1 restore. Let's say you back up, installed a theme, phone hangs or you don't like the theme and cannot convert back.
Hard reset SAME ROM --> Restore --> > Done.
Get accustomed to MyPhone, PIM copy, UC, Sashimi and other tricks because you wont be happy with the restore.
Catch phrase --> "Trust me!"
agree with tyguy...
PIM Backup, SASHIMI, and UC is very useful in backup/restore... I use them all
r04d5t3r said:
PIM Backup, SASHIMI, and UC is very useful in backup/restore... I use them all
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There are SOME things that will work that way. If you use Sprite Backup, you can decide which things to restore. If you avoid restoring the registry, you can still use it to restore selected items like PIM databases. I used Sprite Backup but it has become unusable and it seems the company has stopped responding to support requests. AFAIK, SPB doesn't offer the ability to select but I may be wrong.
I'm curious about one thing though. When using things like PIM Backup, what usually happens is once I sync, all PIM Info gets duplicated (Active Sync thinks the data restored via PIM Backup is something "new"). Does anyone know a way to fool Outlook/Active Sync to not behave that way?
If like me you have meetings and contacts in the thousands, using Outlook/Activesync to restore PIM info to the phone after flashing a new ROM takes a really long time...
I can confirm that newest version of SPB Backup never worked for me on EnergyROMs. I could not connect to gsm network even on a same ROM. Sprite Backup works like a charm, but only on the same ROM. It is good just if you are installing something you never know what happens. So it could work just like some restore points in windows. As the guys here said, best method is to learn UC customizations, Sashimi, but i have to say, it is not that easy, for some people...
i work with SPB Backup with ROMeOS and it worked perfektly even on different ROM Versions. I tried to restore a backup made with SPB Backup under ROMeOS WWE and restored it under GENY GER Version, worked without Problems after changing some names/pathes in the registry (Speicherkarte => Storage Card etc) depending on the language. Not working links like Total Commander werent in the installation of GENY in the main memory; they run after installing TC in the windows directory; for me the Speed was absolutely ok, but i dunno, how fast it would be if you work with UC. I restored all my BUs since ROMeOS since version 1.4 until ver 2, but then i decided to install everything new, what took 2 weeks of braincooking but i got 50 MB more free RAM. Of course its better to install everything new, but if its a complex program & settingsstructure, with a lot of tweaks, colored task bars and so on it is much easier & faster to restore a BU...
SPB has the opportunity to choose which parts of BU you want to restore ... from complete restore (with ROM Upgrade mode/ phone Changing mode) over all or single databases to even single files, if i remember right...
Greetz
Boris
P.S.: i only worked with WM 6.1 ROMs
If I'm in the right mood I'll start a new thread under the general Raphael section because I think this does belong here to the ROM dev. section.
Just in a nutshell:
Sprite has and had major problems if the basic SYS changes dramatically (WinMo 6.1 to 6.5 or 6.5 to 6.5.3) thus I stopped using it BUT it has a nice but not really great working "Restore after ROM change feature".
My basic tricks are:
PIM Backup with SPB
Sync with MyPhone
XML changes (like program paths etc.) with Adv.Config
Install with Sashimi
Copy with Total Commander (programs, Opera settings and bookmarks).
Username and personal data either manual input or Sashimi.
This worked since WinMo 5.0 with no issues and it takes me ~ 30 minutes after a flash to be back 99.9%. I do have to install a few things manually
Don't have much time now so I'll post the link to the "How To" later today.
You can actually do a lot with just pimbackup. The custom option is pretty cool-it allows you to backup and restore custom files, much like sashimi does, except that once you set it up, it will do the backup for you instead of having to do it manually. If you uncheck the 'binary' option, you basically just get a zip file with a directory of all the files you selected for backup.
There's a lot that can go wrong using sprite or a similar app. Even if you don't restore registry settings, you might insert something into the startup folder that screws up your phone (it's easier than you'd think, lol). A week or so ago, I decided to try running a task manager at startup (IT Task, which is really cool), and for whatever reason, when you put a shortcut for it in the startup folder, you have major problems booting up the phone. After about 10 tries, I got lucky and the phone booted up, so I didn't have to do a hard reset (which I wasn't fully prepared for).
You're probably ok restoring with sprite if you stick to the same rom-line, but it could certainly be a mess if one chef stores apps in \program files but the new chef has them all in rom (in \windows). Then you'll end up with two copies of everything, which is a waste. It may work, but it's a lousy way to go.
I just moved from a MoDaCo Android 1.5 rom, though I'm not sure which version of MoDaCo, if there are more than one for the Android 1.5. I tried to use the Backup for root users from BlackginSoft, to get my settings, msgs, contacts etc. over to my newly flashed hero. So I tried to flash my hero with both Villain 4.0 Beta2 Stable build and NeORoM 2a, but the restore function in Backup for root users did no work in neither of the rooms. I even tried to sync my contacts witch htc sync on windows, but that did not work either.
I would appreciate any tips on how to do this For now I've restored the nandroid backup of the MaDaCo Android 1.5 rom.
backup from a 1.5 rom cant be restored on a 2.1 rom. i use titanium back up and restoring a backup of 1.5 on a 2.1 causes everything to crash.
I don't think this can be done cleanly & easily for all the data the OP mentions. The problem is that the major change in Android version involves structural changes to some of the internal databases. Applications which backup/restore data simply by copying these databases will therefore fail if used to attempt moving between Android versions.
In order to work, the backup app would have to be aware of the internal structure of each database for each Android version & either convert directly between them or via its own internal format. This is a lot more work.
That said, in the specific case of sms, I think I read somewhere about Titanium Backup having/getting the ability to do this, though I might be misremembering. What I think I do recall is that the change to 2.1 simply introduces one additional field into the database table, making a conversion between formats fairly simple.
If I really needed this myself, the simplest solution would be to dump the relevant sqlite databases out of 1.5. Create some dummy data in 2.1 & dump those tables, examine the structural changes & convert the data via the necessary SQL on the fly, so to speak. This option is open to anyone who has a moderate grasp of SQL or can find a friend/colleague to help. Personally I doubt I'll bother, as my contacts are in the google cloud & I'm not bothered about carrying messages across.
Thanks for the feedback
I found an app that at least backed up my sms/mms. And it also backed up my contacts, though it took some time before I realised it. After much back and forth I found my contacts added to the google cloud in another contact group than what the phone sees. So then it was just to add them to the group that the phone uses, and then they were all there
Thanks for the help though.. Maybe I should look into the sql thing, I need to learn sqlite for a class anyways
djmapster said:
Thanks for the help though.. Maybe I should look into the sql thing, I need to learn sqlite for a class anyways
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Cool. Enjoy
Hi,
I'm looking for an app that backs up the "Accounts & Sync" settings for all my accounts, before flashing a new rom. I tried "MyBackup" from the market and it backed up my Sensation quite nicely, but it doesn't restore the accounts and setting up everything again was a pain.
Does anyone know of an app that does a backup that includes a backup of the "Accounts & Sync" settings?
Thanks!
Hi!
you have many choices!
1- Nandroid backup.
you can do a Nandroid backup by the recovery.
Be careful you must have more than 1Go free space on your sd card.
So install recovery.
Then reboot on recovery mode.
GO on backup/restore
The phone save all your phone.
then you can restored it. or just datas if you want.
2- Save By titanium Backup
This is an app which is created to save all your datas and restore it after.
With full version you can be faster and restore all apps at the same time.
With free it's harder... one by one :s
Don't forget thanks button
Do you need more infos?
I have a follow-up question to this. Several, actually:
* Where can I find nandroid? googling finds me something that is several years old.
* Titanium backup, while it contains a section for "backup/restore all system data" first doesn't actually contain any entries, and second is actually much more than we want.
What we're looking for, if I understand OP correctly, is something that ONLY backs up "Accounts & Sync". This is by far the most annoying thing about wiping and reflashing roms, and is also unlikely to be the cause of errors (at least for reflashing the same rom). Thus, is there an application, or a mode in an application or something, that lets us back up *only* the "Accounts & Sync" settings?
NANDROID refers to the back up process from within your recovery program I.E Clockwork, 4EXT Ect... It will be listed as "Backup" in those programs when you are in recovery mode.
You can just backup the "Accounts and Sync Settings" from within titanium, or you can use ROMToolbox which is what i use, both are pretty much the same program but ROMToolbox does alot more than just backups. You will find the "Accounts and Sync Settings" under the "System" tab from within either program.
Once you have backed up the "Accounts and Sync Settings" it would simply be a case of reinstalling either titanium or toolbox and restoring the afore mentioned .apk once you have flashed your new ROM.
dstylazz said:
NANDROID refers to the back up process from within your recovery program I.E Clockwork, 4EXT Ect... It will be listed as "Backup" in those programs when you are in recovery mode.
You can just backup the "Accounts and Sync Settings" from within titanium, or you can use ROMToolbox which is what i use, both are pretty much the same program but ROMToolbox does alot more than just backups. You will find the "Accounts and Sync Settings" under the "System" tab from within either program.
Once you have backed up the "Accounts and Sync Settings" it would simply be a case of reinstalling either titanium or toolbox and restoring the afore mentioned .apk once you have flashed your new ROM.
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Regarding the NANDROID, ok, that's good to know, thanks =)
Regarding backing up the settings, I can't seem to find anything like that in titanium backup or in (the screenshots for) ROMToolbox (I assume this is what you are referring to: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.liteupmobile.secretcodes)
Do I need a pro version or something for this to be available?
No the one i was referring to is made by JRummy Here
The section you will be looking for once installed is "App Manager" once in that or any other program that romtoolbox offers you slide left to switch tabs
EDIT: Ah just installed titanium there to have a look and that displays everything under the same menu (sorry i thought it was similar to toolbox) and it will be highlighted red to indicate it is a system Application / File..
Since we last spoke, I also found it in TitaniumBackup, actually. All I to do was dig a bit =)
I haven't tried restoring it, though. I also don't know where the data actually ended up. It doesn't seem to be in /sdcard/TitaniumBackup like my backed up apps... Any idea?
Em it will be there, on your sdcard / titanium backup folder and there will be in three separate files something like.
The three file names mentioned below contain all the info from your "Accounts & Sync Settings"
com.android.providers.subscribedfeeds-20120418-113609.properties
com.android.providers.subscribedfeeds-20120418-113609.tar.gz
com.android.providers.subscribedfeeds-d6ff2fe87c9c58dd29b2258d83008617.apk.gz
The number and letter strings may be different on your device / sdcard, but those are the files you will be looking for.
I found a bunch of those for the apps I've backed up, but not the settings. I'll look further when I get home.
I simply showed the "system" apps, and some of them showed up as green. Those were the ones I backed up, because they seemed to have reasonable names, like "Accounts" and "SMS/MMS", etc. The red colored ones seemed, indeed, to be system apps, the apps themselves.
I think I found them. It looks like they have names like this:
com.keramidas.virtual.ACCOUNTS-20120417-153858.properties
com.keramidas.virtual.APP_WIDGETS-20120417-153918.properties
com.keramidas.virtual.WIFI_AP_LIST-20120417-154139.properties
Be careful when restoring system data to rooms. This can and has been proven to cause issues as with each update there are changes to where and how things are saved. It is advised by just about every developer to never restore system data and won't except any bug reports if you do restore system data of any kind.
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Be careful when restoring system data to rooms. This can and has been proven to cause issues as with each update there are changes to where and how things are saved. It is advised by just about every developer to never restore system data and won't except any bug reports if you do restore system data of any kind.
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While that is true restoring accounts and sync settings between roms (especially if its not a version jump for example 2.2>>2.3) it won't cause any (critical) errors.
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nerot said:
While that is true restoring accounts and sync settings between roms (especially if its not a version jump for example 2.2>>2.3) it won't cause any (critical) errors.
Sent from my Optimus Me using xda premium
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That all depends on how the dev setup the rom. Like my personal roms. Restoring any system data from any other rom even from the same OS version will boot loop you and require a reflash.
How do you backup and restore Settings/Accounts?
I tried restoring the Google App but I don't think the configured google accounts are stored in it. How would I be able to restore all of the accounts configured in settings/accounts?
Restore all accounts to tablet
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I tried restoring the Google App but I don't think the configured google accounts are stored in it. How would I be able to restore all of the accounts configured in settings/accounts?
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Yes, I would be interested in this as well. I have many accounts I've configured on my Note 10.1 2014, but after upgrading to 5.1.1, I want to know if I could get all the accounts I had configured previously, somehow configure automatically to my Note, instead of adding them individually and manually.
thanks
Simple you can't. Well you can but it takes root and causes instability
No one App can happen us to backup all the Google accounts settings? I mean with a rooted phone.
Thanks
I am new to HTC devices, coming from Motorola Droids. I have read a lot of the info here but still have a few noob questions. I am currently running RezROM 1.5 and like it a lot. But I would like to get the OTA update for the new radio and I would also like to check out some of the ICS ROM's.
So question is: Is there an easy way to restore user data and apps after flashing ROM's? Many of the ROM's I see suggest or require full wipe and often recommend not restoring anything. I have had problems restoring data (both on Motorola and HTC) with Titanium backup.
Thanks!
TahoeTexan said:
I am new to HTC devices, coming from Motorola Droids. I have read a lot of the info here but still have a few noob questions. I am currently running RezROM 1.5 and like it a lot. But I would like to get the OTA update for the new radio and I would also like to check out some of the ICS ROM's.
So question is: Is there an easy way to restore user data and apps after flashing ROM's? Many of the ROM's I see suggest or require full wipe and often recommend not restoring anything. I have had problems restoring data (both on Motorola and HTC) with Titanium backup.
Thanks!
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The apps part is easy. Backup your /data/app/ somewhere before changing ROMs. Then drop it everything back in /data/app/ afterward. All you're backing up though is the installed application, not the data. Data is not recommended across many ROMs so I don't even think about it.
I've tried a few ways... but ultimately. I just deal with resetting everything up the way I want.
I've used MyBackup. It does alright. Takes forever if you have a lot of SMS messages. And it doesn't exactly get all of your system settings either. I also had a problem where I factory reset, re-installed all my apps. and then ran MyBackup restore to get the home screens back in order and while it did, none of the app buttons worked. So I had to replace everything, but at least I knew where things belonged I guess...
Eitherway, haven't been that impressed with any of the backup/restore things as of yet. I'm feeling bold enough to say there isn't a SlamDunk solution out there that'll work for everyone, but the ones that do exist might do enough for you to be happy.
The best way I have found by far is to use the app "App Monster Pro".
You can have that app made a BU copy of the APK for all your installed apps to a folder on your storage card. Then, after a ROM flash you just go to that folder & click on whatever APK's you want installed for the new ROM & you get a completely clean new install of everything in no time.
That way it a little slower than a TI batch recover, but the difference is it works 100% right 100% of the time (something TI & My BU Pro NEVER do)
It doesn't restore text messages, but I never had any desire to do that anyway (it always cracked me up when I had my TouchPro 2 & people would post I just restored 4200 text messages to my new ROM & now my phone is freezing constantly when texting, what do I do??)
I just use ES File Explorer to backup my apps, as for data, for me, my critical data are my contacts, so I just sync those up with my google account.
I second AppMonster Pro for just apps. I love that as soon as you download an app it makes a backup of it so you never have to think about it. And when restoring it's easy on the eyes, unlike TiBU which I find I have to search around a lot before I find what I'm trying to restore. Still I use three back up systems - AppMonster Pro, MyBackup Pro and Titanium Backup Pro - just in case so if one fails I have others to turn to.