Hi All,
I have a noob question and I hope gurus out there can help.
How do you all deal with backup/restore of different settings?
I spent a lot of time reading about UC today, and I managed to make it work for installing CABs and folders.
1) TF3D Settings (contacts/mail tab/programs tab)
2) Standard WM6 settings (such as notifications, buttons, menus) <proxml?>
3) Active Sync Partnership Settings (<-- Think you can use SKTOOLS, but haven't tried)
I am aware of PIM Backup, but when I restore from it TF3D cannot detect the restored mail folders.
Thanks in advance.
joymike123 said:
Hi All,
I have a noob question and I hope gurus out there can help.
How do you all deal with backup/restore of different settings?
I spent a lot of time reading about UC today, and I managed to make it work for installing CABs and folders.
1) TF3D Settings (contacts/mail tab/programs tab)
2) Standard WM6 settings (such as notifications, buttons, menus) <proxml?>
3) Active Sync Partnership Settings (<-- Think you can use SKTOOLS, but haven't tried)
I am aware of PIM Backup, but when I restore from it TF3D cannot detect the restored mail folders.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi I'm no guru and I'm keen to see what others have to say in regards to your questions.
I struggle to be able to get most things to back up correctly.
I use PIM back up before I flash a new rom.
I am able to get it to restore my contacts and my messages fine but that's about it. One problem I always find is if I use PIM to restore contacts before using active sync and outlook I get duplicate contacts and birthdays every time. So make sure you sync with your PC before running PIM backup/restore.
I've never been able to get anything like settings, preferences or button settings to restore.
I've also tried sprite backup but never been able to work out what it actually does. It uses about 80mb storage and takes forever yet seems to do nothing.
One thing I have read is that most people recommend not backing up or restoring personal (messages/contacts is ok) settings when using different roms.
I maybe wrong.
I've just created a folder on my SD card with all my favourite programs in it. Nowdays it doesn't take long to get back up and running after flashing to a new rom
Lets wait for some of the higher powers to reply
joymike123 said:
Hi All,
I have a noob question and I hope gurus out there can help.
How do you all deal with backup/restore of different settings?
I spent a lot of time reading about UC today, and I managed to make it work for installing CABs and folders.
1) TF3D Settings (contacts/mail tab/programs tab)
2) Standard WM6 settings (such as notifications, buttons, menus) <proxml?>
3) Active Sync Partnership Settings (<-- Think you can use SKTOOLS, but haven't tried)
I am aware of PIM Backup, but when I restore from it TF3D cannot detect the restored mail folders.
Thanks in advance.
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I just got the Fuze and I was wondering the same thing. I already downloaded and installed the .cab file to change my clock and theme. And I was wondering whether or not I should back up my programs, files, contacts, etc.??
Restore 101 after flashing
As a ROM flashing junkie I tried several ways how to setup my phone and restore all settings and data within 30 min. or less.
First of all you should know your phone and you should know what you NEED and what's NICE TO HAVE.
Check which apps have to run on the phone (mainly dialers, skins, task managers, g-sensor and backlight apps).
Install your apps which need not to run on the phone on the SD card.
Figure out which apps HAVE to be installed and which one are quiet happy with a "send link to programs". You may wonder how many can be run that way (WeFi, Total Commander, DiamondTV, WVD, SPBOnline, MSLiveSearch, PHM Regedit, HiCalc even SKTools and WK-Task to name a few).
Either understand what UC does and prepare your sdconfig.txt up front or use SASHIMI (very easy to set up! You just copy the cabs to the auto or auto\sc directory). You may import your owner and reg key entries as well but be careful, pending how the ROM is cooked reg entry import can be fatal!
PIM backup using SPB Backup as software and just save on the SD card.
I use SPBBackup because I never ran into any compatibility issues from my Tilt times swapping between winmo 5 and winmo6 and winmo 6 to winmo6.1.
Furthermore SPBBackup creates a self running exe, no need to install any software to restore.
Flash ROM or hard reset
Restore PIM
Install Sashimi
Open Sashimi and install apps (either on device or SD - see above)
Soft reset
Open FileExplorer or TotalCommander go to "SD\Program Files" and send shortcuts to Programs
Assign Programs in Programs Tab under TF3D
Add your custom weather cities.
Set up a simple numeric password and a timeout to 12 h!
This may be very important because winmo has a bug. In case you do not apply a hack, active sync will automatically assign the email password as boot password (enforced security policy). In case you happen to have an alphanumeric password and didn't set a "complex" password under the lock feature you wont be able to unlock your phone after a soft reset because you wont have the capability to enter alphanum. values!!!!
Soft reset
Open active sync and set it up to sync with a server (in case you use a corp. email account).
Soft reset
Done
Some UC allows you to install selectively on SD or device but rather than editing a txt file I copy the apps I need in a directory and let software install it.
Note on full restore:
SPB Backup and other programs as well do have a "restore after ROM upgrade" function where you may restore ALL programs and settings to the phone. Even though there is a feature "do not overwrite existing settings" and "do not restore password" in a lot of cases this restore simply fails. I assume that this is based on the different cores of winmo the chefs use and I ran into too many problems as in "wrong password" or hangs on certain applications that I do a PIM backup/restore ONLY.
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:?: I think I have done my homework, having searched the Forums for help here, but I am still boggled.
I enjoy trying out the new ROM's and Radios as they come out, but am tired of resetting everything on my machine after each upgrade/downgrade. I understand that it is unsafe to backup and then restore to a different ROM version, but need some stratgey to minimize continued reloading and resetting everything each time I upgrade/downgrade.
Questions: If changing only a Radio Stack version, leaving the ROM and EXT ROM versions unchanged, can I do a full backup and then restore safely?
I am also confused as to what the best, most complete backup method might be. I have too many options. Backup in Activesync, import expoert databases, xBackup or Permenant Save on XDA II, .reg backup from reg editor?
Is there another program that is better than any of these options?
Would one of you XDA II Wizards help out us novice apprentices and post a tutorial explaining the real story about backup/restore when switching ROMS and Radio Stacks? Your efforts would be appreciated.
Steve :?:
I think the best backup/restore application is the Sprite Backup.
I have ab. 65MB in my XDAII memory.
the backup time to 256SD card
- with xbackup: ab. 45-50 minutes
- with Sprite Backup: ab. 15-20 mins
the restore time with Sprite: ab. 6-8 mins
It's restore everything (registry, settings, colours, cleartype...etc)
May the Sprite can changes the ROM version num., but only in the registry, but the XDA is working fine with the new ROM.
! When you backing up by Sprite, don't include the mail boxes, because cannot restore it perfectly, and may you cannot send or recieve SMS,
and need to hard-resetting again!
Try it! Good Luck!
hhmmm it may be me but i havent seen any stand alone radiostack upgrades for xda2's and if you manage to put a xda1 radiostack on your xda2 device you got a brand new hitec doorstop on your hands i would suspect
like with the xda1 i would say that radiostacks should never be changed unless ones cellphone company advice it and are willing to help out should it go horrably wrong
with roms you can change and reflash and such but with radiostacks its not anywhere near as easy to get out of a tigth spot
about backup then i suppose it depend on what you want to backup
permenent save only save contacts and appointments and connections settings and such
kinda like if you just sync with outlook
the different backup programs plus the activesync in outlook are a different matter
if you change your rom then i would not restore a backup from the older rom
since a backup is all changed and programs and settings added to the device since hardreset
since you are talking about a new rom then some settings may not be there anymore and some programs may not be there default and such
restoring a backup from an older rom could result in you having to do a hardreset because of a lockup or just a less stable pocketpc
Having played around with the Extended ROM for a couple of weeks, I feel there is possibly a better option. Even thought all the applications install automatically theres still a lot of manual configuration. Another option would be to configure the Extended ROM to contain just the Sprite.cab file and a backup file. The config.txt file would auto install Sprite then start a restore?
Now to my question, for this to work I need to establish if Sprite has any command line syntax ie "Sprite restore \Extended ROM\Backupfile.bak"
that can be added to the Config.txt file.
If not Sprite are there any other tools available?
I'm not sure that would work too well, since it would not give you the opportunity to reconfigure the clock before launching the restore (any software). This would mean that all appointments included in the backup image would automatically trigger their alarms as soon as the restore completed (I've done this and it's a pain).
You must also remember that you only have about 14Mb to play with - I know that my backups are far larger than this and that's with most software installed to Storage rather than main memory (I have lots of contacts, etc.)
Hi!
I have the Energy rom on my TP.
I want to upgrade to the last rom avaliable all the time.
If i use a software like Resco Backup, is it possible to perform a full backup, flash a new rom and then restore my full settings and customizations and aply to the new rom??
thanks!
tntnt said:
Hi!
I have the Energy rom on my TP.
I want to upgrade to the last rom avaliable all the time.
If i use a software like Resco Backup, is it possible to perform a full backup, flash a new rom and then restore my full settings and customizations and aply to the new rom??
thanks!
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You can chose whatever backup software you want. Sprite offers a restore after ROM upgrade, so does SPB but be assured that in 8 out of 10 cases it will FAIL, your brand spanking new ROM will be messed up, sluggish, unresponsive.
The only way these backups DO work is a 1:1 restore. Let's say you back up, installed a theme, phone hangs or you don't like the theme and cannot convert back.
Hard reset SAME ROM --> Restore --> > Done.
Get accustomed to MyPhone, PIM copy, UC, Sashimi and other tricks because you wont be happy with the restore.
Catch phrase --> "Trust me!"
agree with tyguy...
PIM Backup, SASHIMI, and UC is very useful in backup/restore... I use them all
r04d5t3r said:
PIM Backup, SASHIMI, and UC is very useful in backup/restore... I use them all
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There are SOME things that will work that way. If you use Sprite Backup, you can decide which things to restore. If you avoid restoring the registry, you can still use it to restore selected items like PIM databases. I used Sprite Backup but it has become unusable and it seems the company has stopped responding to support requests. AFAIK, SPB doesn't offer the ability to select but I may be wrong.
I'm curious about one thing though. When using things like PIM Backup, what usually happens is once I sync, all PIM Info gets duplicated (Active Sync thinks the data restored via PIM Backup is something "new"). Does anyone know a way to fool Outlook/Active Sync to not behave that way?
If like me you have meetings and contacts in the thousands, using Outlook/Activesync to restore PIM info to the phone after flashing a new ROM takes a really long time...
I can confirm that newest version of SPB Backup never worked for me on EnergyROMs. I could not connect to gsm network even on a same ROM. Sprite Backup works like a charm, but only on the same ROM. It is good just if you are installing something you never know what happens. So it could work just like some restore points in windows. As the guys here said, best method is to learn UC customizations, Sashimi, but i have to say, it is not that easy, for some people...
i work with SPB Backup with ROMeOS and it worked perfektly even on different ROM Versions. I tried to restore a backup made with SPB Backup under ROMeOS WWE and restored it under GENY GER Version, worked without Problems after changing some names/pathes in the registry (Speicherkarte => Storage Card etc) depending on the language. Not working links like Total Commander werent in the installation of GENY in the main memory; they run after installing TC in the windows directory; for me the Speed was absolutely ok, but i dunno, how fast it would be if you work with UC. I restored all my BUs since ROMeOS since version 1.4 until ver 2, but then i decided to install everything new, what took 2 weeks of braincooking but i got 50 MB more free RAM. Of course its better to install everything new, but if its a complex program & settingsstructure, with a lot of tweaks, colored task bars and so on it is much easier & faster to restore a BU...
SPB has the opportunity to choose which parts of BU you want to restore ... from complete restore (with ROM Upgrade mode/ phone Changing mode) over all or single databases to even single files, if i remember right...
Greetz
Boris
P.S.: i only worked with WM 6.1 ROMs
If I'm in the right mood I'll start a new thread under the general Raphael section because I think this does belong here to the ROM dev. section.
Just in a nutshell:
Sprite has and had major problems if the basic SYS changes dramatically (WinMo 6.1 to 6.5 or 6.5 to 6.5.3) thus I stopped using it BUT it has a nice but not really great working "Restore after ROM change feature".
My basic tricks are:
PIM Backup with SPB
Sync with MyPhone
XML changes (like program paths etc.) with Adv.Config
Install with Sashimi
Copy with Total Commander (programs, Opera settings and bookmarks).
Username and personal data either manual input or Sashimi.
This worked since WinMo 5.0 with no issues and it takes me ~ 30 minutes after a flash to be back 99.9%. I do have to install a few things manually
Don't have much time now so I'll post the link to the "How To" later today.
You can actually do a lot with just pimbackup. The custom option is pretty cool-it allows you to backup and restore custom files, much like sashimi does, except that once you set it up, it will do the backup for you instead of having to do it manually. If you uncheck the 'binary' option, you basically just get a zip file with a directory of all the files you selected for backup.
There's a lot that can go wrong using sprite or a similar app. Even if you don't restore registry settings, you might insert something into the startup folder that screws up your phone (it's easier than you'd think, lol). A week or so ago, I decided to try running a task manager at startup (IT Task, which is really cool), and for whatever reason, when you put a shortcut for it in the startup folder, you have major problems booting up the phone. After about 10 tries, I got lucky and the phone booted up, so I didn't have to do a hard reset (which I wasn't fully prepared for).
You're probably ok restoring with sprite if you stick to the same rom-line, but it could certainly be a mess if one chef stores apps in \program files but the new chef has them all in rom (in \windows). Then you'll end up with two copies of everything, which is a waste. It may work, but it's a lousy way to go.
Here's the deal, I have a few HD2s and I would like to flash them with the same ROM, same settings, same applications.. basically cloning one to each other.. What is the easiest way to that? I would rather not have to setup each one, one by one. Is there a way where I can just setup one HD2 and then clone it to the next HD2 and so on? Any help is much appreciated! Thanks!
Please have a look into Sashimi.
I am using this after flashing new ROMs. In short words, it does all the installations step by step, but in an automated way. You can also deploy files with it, e.g. settings files. It can setup mail accounts and also restore registry settings. Try to read through the documentation ...
So, I picture you cloning the storage cards, including the Sashimi program on it, and then you need to start the Sashimi auto-run on each device. Hope that helps!
Is it possible to use SPB Backup and backup the device and then restore it onto the next device?
As for SPBBackup:
This depends on the programs used: Some programs use the IMEI to unlock the application. These will certainly not function when restored to another phone.
But otherwise, I believe it could be a viable solution for home use.
For professional use there are several cloning programs around (but expensive sometimes)
The other option is using XDA_UA to automatically install after reset...
Hi, I plan to upgrade my older Artemis ROM to the current version. Is it possible to backup the installed apps, the contacts/ desktop setup (shortcut icon placement, widget settings), etc?
And of course to restore them with he new ROM. Pretty much what Titanium Backup does for android.
Or do I have to save everything manually somehow?
PS: I did a search
Hi GabbO2,
I have the same plan. Currently I'm on V64 and also using CHT 2.0.0.0. I made a backup of the CHT settings, a backup of the Artemis settings with Artemis Center and a full SPB backup. Almost all of my apps and all my data are on the storage card, so they don't need to be installed after flashing. For apps necessarily to be installed on the intern storage I use the cooked in Mass installer. Please take a look in the Artemis thread help files for a detailed overview of the Mass Installer funcionality.
1. Flash ROM
2. Mass Installer
3. Restore CHT settings
4. Restore Artemis Center settings
5. Restore SPB backup
As far as I understood from what I've been reading here on the forum, that's what has to be done to get my familiar settings back after flashing a ROM. I will use this procedure tomorrow, when I have a little time.
The preparation for this is a little bit time consuming, but you will only have to do it once and then you got a full sytem recovery.
Regards
Getrid
(phhhh, after following the board for a long time - finally my first post Big thanks to all board members from whom I learned so much and still learning)
Danke, very helpful
Be carefull by using SPB backup.
Due to user reports in the past SPB backup saves and restores also system files, which could cause problems.
contacts / appointments / SMS can be saved by PIMBackup
@Getrid: Congratulations to your first post.
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Be carefull by using SPB backup.
Due to user reports in the past SPB backup saves and restores also system files, which could cause problems.
contacts / appointments / SMS can be saved by PIMBackup
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Oh, I'll keep that in mind. So deselection of the system files option in SPB Backup should prevent trouble, right?
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@Getrid: Congratulations to your first post.
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Thank you very much!
spb it can mess with your sim so take it out befor u back up
Taking out SIM and SD card before flashing a ROM via USB is mandatory to me. I know, it's usually not recommended, but I like to secure things
Anyway, thanks for the advice.