wm6.1 fast on g3 than on g4 why?
i had this opportunity to flash my cousins g3 with the same rom on my g4 ,i found g3 opening windows folder much much fast than my pathetic g4. could it be due to the lock check,or could it be g4 drivers are supposed to be different for cache memory ,since g4 came later it should be more fast but i find g3 to be more fast.
why?
kamalneet said:
wm6.1 fast on g3 than on g4 why?
i had this opportunity to flash my cousins g3 with the same rom on my g4 ,i found g3 opening windows folder much much fast than my pathetic g4. could it be due to the lock check,or could it be g4 drivers are supposed to be different for cache memory ,since g4 came later it should be more fast but i find g3 to be more fast.
why?
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G3 has more memory. Was your cousins overclocked?
no not over clocked i used same rom cooked by me for both but response time of g3 was much much better ,mine is slower g4.
while g3 has more space on device. That make the device run faster..
varanusvincent said:
while g3 has more space on device. That make the device run faster..
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And also, furthermore for the hardware issue,
G3 and G4 uses different DOC (Disk On Chip),
and 64MB*2 and 128MB *1, physically,
performance will be varied due to system ROM distribution
(like the partition address of the Extended_rom.....),
and Random Access Memory (RAM, like the configurable pagepool.....)
plus the opportunity to the different "health" of the components
(e.g. there are absolutely never be a 100% precisely same performance even same model)
Hope that we may fulfilled your question.
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I tried hard to keep up with wm6, tried hard , all possible tweaks.So finally the other day, I thought of going back to WM5 and really it is much much stable, no soft resets, no hangups.Hard to get used to the wm5 interface as compared to the glossy wm6, but performance is what I desire, and now my apps open in seconds, memory leaks are minimal, audio in BT also goes well.
I really wonder, why WM is not fully compatible with Athena.All other devices it works like a charm, why not in Athena.
I think wm6 is quicker and more stable than wm5. I reset more often in the past.
Which wm6 ROM were you running? What applications were you using? It may be one or two applications giving you the problem.
Not much apps, I like to stick with the given apps.Use Windows Live, builtin Opera, sometimes may b NetFront, I do not play games, Skype, I use.That's it.
If u compare the speed of execution of these programms with other devices running wm6 such as Universal,Hermes, Kaiser, Blue Angel, and if we have the fastest processor 624 Mhz, it shd surpass the programe execution time.
WM6 I hv observed that, initially, it works well, but as the use goes on , it tends to slow down, and even it takes a lot of time to make a phone call, after I press "Talk".
I get 150 calls a day on an average fews Texts, few emails, 24 hrs connected to GPRS or Wi Fi whichever is available.
It is a suprise that Blue Angel reacts faster than athena to similar apps, and execution is very good and fast in devices like Hermes,Kaiser, Universal....all Running WM6, either official or cooked ones.
I really fail to understand, why such a thing with Athena.
Where do you install applications?
What does the sktools performance benchmark tells you about your card and MD.
How did you format your drives?
Do you regularly clear up the cache in opera?
How large is your contact database?
Sorry this seems like a so many questions, but there must be a cause of your problem which is not related to wm6. I say that because I've far far more applications than you, all running okay. I do avoid certain applications. Examples include the latest version of ilauncher.
No problems to me with your questions.Once I had decided to us a Virgin wm6..as it is, no apps, still the problem persists.You won't believe, but I wud have changed 5 Athenas so far..but the problem with the speed persists.
My contatcs data base is quite small, opera cache is by dafault is 2 mb, so it gets cleared whatever is more than 2 MB.
If same I use in the other devices as mentioned, I do not face any problems, so far BA and Univeresal has been the best performances, Hermes and Kaiser follow...and Athena is my primary phone, I do not use any other or second phone.
hdubli said:
No problems to me with your questions.Once I had decided to us a Virgin wm6..as it is, no apps, still the problem persists.You won't believe, but I wud have changed 5 Athenas so far..but the problem with the speed persists.
My contatcs data base is quite small, opera cache is by dafault is 2 mb, so it gets cleared whatever is more than 2 MB.
If same I use in the other devices as mentioned, I do not face any problems, so far BA and Univeresal has been the best performances, Hermes and Kaiser follow...and Athena is my primary phone, I do not use any other or second phone.
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Then I guess it must be a question of expectation.
I've just looked up. BA is using WM2003, isn't it? Well, that explains why it is so fast. I have a very old WM2003 device that feels like a speed demon too. That brings us back to the old debate of whether or not microsoft made the right move by going int persistent memory, which if I ask me now, I'd still prefer the old approach.
Your Universal has been soldered with additional memory, has'nt it? Do you think this is the reason why it is so fast?
If you've used so many units of Athena and found speed problem with every one of them, when nothing has been loaded yet, it probably means you're expecting WM2003 speed on a WM5/WM6 machine. I'm doubtful that going back to WM5 will solve your problem, because from my experience, WM6 does seem faster.
Not sure where this leaves you and not sure how else to help though.
Hi,
I know that and understand your motive and respect that.If u check carefully, BA can b updated to wm6 aku 7.7
Also I hv uni with 128 ram, but 64 also runs quite well.
Can u imagine I am replying to this thread from Opera Running WM 5
Crispy and fast enough..and I feel the differrence.
Anyway I will try oncemore and report back
I still havent found a WM6 device that can surpass the BA in raw speed (also with WM6)
uni gets quite close tho!
Midget_1990 said:
I still havent found a WM6 device that can surpass the BA in raw speed (also with WM6)
uni gets quite close tho!
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In your expert opinion, why is this so? What is special about BA that makes it fly? Does the faster speed also apply to internet surfing too?
3rd day with WM5
-Only one soft reset
-Memory lowers to 70 Mb from 81 MB,use SK tools and rever it again.
-pmsn works great and fster.Skype is also more responsive.
-I think we all here shd give it a try and also research why this is so.Really WM5 wins as far as Athena is concerned.
Guru Try Dopod
hi GURU try dopod wm6
or try aptouch dual Virgin
Hello everyone.
I´m new on this forum, and just purchased a Touch Dual and of course upgrade it with al your wonderful mods here (HardSPL, Niki's project, etc all the nice cooking ).
I´m using SKTools and when benchmarking the device came with some strange values, a bit desappointing even:
Integer: 233.2211
Floating Point: 5.477
RAM Acesss: 751
Draw bitmaps: 740
Main Storage: Write: 1765.52
Main Storage: Read: 3616.24
The RAM Access benchmark in particular seems very low
Any thoughts? Is it only my machine?
No, it's not just your machine. I don't have SKTools to try it myself, but I'm pretty sure we'll get the same score. The Niki isn't really a fast device.. older WM2003 devices even feels a lot faster due to the different RAM. And even some WM5 devices also feels faster (mostly because of the video driver issue. More info at www.htcclassaction.org). But don't be affected by benchmarks too much. They don't really reflect real world performance (that's what I keep telling myself... lol )
Even my Qtek S200 seems smoother at times... But its uglier. (That´s what I keep telling myself too ) Hope the new drivers, when they come out, if they come out, will resolve the issue...
So the LG v10 is the first Phone to get SanDisk's “Extreme Photo-Image Capabilities” (EPIC) ceritification, but what does it really mean for the average LG v10 user? What does it entail for the more than average user?
clockcycle said:
So the LG v10 is the first Phone to get SanDisk's â??Extreme Photo-Image Capabilitiesâ? (EPIC) ceritification, but what does it really mean for the average LG v10 user? What does it entail for the more than average user?
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Read this...
http://investor.sandisk.com/investor-relations/press-releases/press-release-details/2015/LG-V10-Smartphone-Becomes-First-Smartphone-to-Meet-SanDisks-Extreme-Photo-Imaging-Capabilities-Guidelines/default.aspx
Its just a marketing jargon started by sandisk for smartphones with nice and better camera capabilities, like the extensive manual mode found on our V10. It means nothing new that you can discover. Your phone is what it is, this is just another branding thing.
I have to disagree with the last comment, its not Branding nor Marketing gimmicks, its indeed a revolution as to how the internal storage behave.
It's basically a much faster IO operations never seen on a smartphone before, even the eMMC 5.0 which was developed by Samsung.
It utilizes something called UFS, think of it as a new file system that is optimized to the extent of competing with SSDs in modern Computers.
Upon completing tests, I found that the 64GB internal Storage on the v10 is SUPERBLY FASTER than any top dog smartphone out there. Real life effects is much faster Read/Write operations, thus Apps installs significantly faster, and the whole User experience is optimized by far, that's why although the v10 runs on SD 808, it feels much faster and only lags in Benchmarks which depends mainly on the SoC.
It's not magic that the v10 feels and acts smoother and sometimes faster than the Galaxy Note 5, the trick is the EPIC thingy.
Hope that helps!
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I have to disagree with the last comment, its not Branding nor Marketing gimmicks, its indeed a revolution as to how the internal storage behave.
It's basically a much faster IO operations never seen on a smartphone before, even the eMMC 5.0 which was developed by Samsung.
It utilizes something called UFS, think of it as a new file system that is optimized to the extent of competing with SSDs in modern Computers.
Upon completing tests, I found that the 64GB internal Storage on the v10 is SUPERBLY FASTER than any top dog smartphone out there. Real life effects is much faster Read/Write operations, thus Apps installs significantly faster, and the whole User experience is optimized by far, that's why although the v10 runs on SD 808, it feels much faster and only lags in Benchmarks which depends mainly on the SoC.
It's not magic that the v10 feels and acts smoother and sometimes faster than the Galaxy Note 5, the trick is the EPIC thingy.
Hope that helps!
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V10 is seems so much slower when compared to HTC M9 .. now LG has the ****tiest software .. and here is more info about EPIC
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/10/lg-v10-first-phone-get-sandisks-epic-certification.html
Hello,
I'm a new owner of the G5, I had the G3 before.
The G3 after turning it on, it uses about 700 Mo for the system and 423mo for the apps so a total of 1123Mo of ram on Marshmallow
The G5 (on Nougat), after a factory reset and without any apps already use 3Go of ram.
Is it normal or not ? it looks very high
Thank you
lgg3owner said:
Hello,
I'm a new owner of the G5, I had the G3 before.
The G3 after turning it on, it uses about 700 Mo for the system and 423mo for the apps so a total of 1123Mo of ram on Marshmallow
The G5 (on Nougat), after a factory reset and without any apps already use 3Go of ram.
Is it normal or not ? it looks very high
Thank you
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Definitely not normal. Nogut stock no other apps installed. Usually ran 1.5-2.00 GB ram out of 4.
Sent from my LG-H830 using XDA Labs
Thank you for your response.
Even with a factory reset it uses the same. With all the app installed it says : 3 Go for the system and 18 Mo for the apps.
This is weird, but the phone run fine so I guess I will not care about it.
Is it just me, or does the phone use a lot of RAM? Mine seems to be using 2.7GB minimum at all times. Seems high.
Higher would be more ideal. The Windows mindset of "I'm running out of RAM!" doesn't get you anywhere here; in Android, empty RAM is wasted RAM. My Droid Turbo averages ~1.8gb used of 3gb. Seems Nougat tries to average 60%-70% usage.
When you switch out of an app, it's moved to the background and (usually) suspended, but kept in memory so you can switch back to it quickly. It's things like this that take up memory you think should be "free".
In the event that you need to load up a big app, stuff running in the background is quickly and gracefully unloaded.
Unless you're getting constant foreground app crashes - which might indicate that something is forcefully keeping itself loaded and starving everything else of needed memory - you shouldn't worry about it. Android is fairly good at handling memory these days.
Septfox said:
Higher would be more ideal. The Windows mindset of "I'm running out of RAM!" doesn't get you anywhere here; in Android, empty RAM is wasted RAM. My Droid Turbo averages ~1.8gb used of 3gb. Seems Nougat tries to average 60%-70% usage.
When you switch out of an app, it's moved to the background and (usually) suspended, but kept in memory so you can switch back to it quickly. It's things like this that take up memory you think should be "free".
In the event that you need to load up a big app, stuff running in the background is quickly and gracefully unloaded.
Unless you're getting constant foreground app crashes - which might indicate that something is forcefully keeping itself loaded and starving everything else of needed memory - you shouldn't worry about it. Android is fairly good at handling memory these days.
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I notice this issue more on custom ROMs than stock firmware. On mine and my wife's Quarks (3GB RAM, as you well know), running Marshmallow and Lollipop versions of the same ROM, something causes the phones to just freeze up for about a minute, crashes, then RAM is released to use. It was happening at least once a day on my phone, then my wife said it was happening to her phone. (Our old phones, not the new LG V30 phones.) I've messed with the LMK settings, trying different combinations, to no avail. And I did report it in the Nougat ROM thread for that phone. (Marshmallow ROM thread no longer has support.)
So, while I totally agree with your answer, it is the technically correct answer, I do understand the OP's concern. I've gotten to the point where I like to see more free RAM, so I know my phone isn't about to freeze up. At least on my old phone.
I love custom ROMs, but the past couple of weeks it's been nice to run stock on my new LG V30 and have a very fluid experience. I've not disabled anything. I saw some others disable stuff and then got lagging. I've not touched a thing and my phone is very smooth.
Could a "theme" downloaded from play store take up a lot of RAM and/or slow things down, too?
This is my first experience with a theme.
coldbeverage said:
Could a "theme" downloaded from play store take up a lot of RAM and/or slow things down, too?
This is my first experience with a theme.
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Possibly, but probably not. From what I've seen, LG themes seem to skin far less than say, substratum does, and even substratum is pretty lightweight unless you get into transparent themes.
Keep in mind the default theme is itself...well, a theme. You're not really saving anything by staying on it. If you see a skin you like, use it, if you're really worried use one of the LG-provided ones that come with the phone.
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I notice this issue more on custom ROMs than stock firmware. On mine and my wife's Quarks (3GB RAM, as you well know), running Marshmallow and Lollipop versions of the same ROM, something causes the phones to just freeze up for about a minute, crashes, then RAM is released to use. It was happening at least once a day on my phone, then my wife said it was happening to her phone. (Our old phones, not the new LG V30 phones.) I've messed with the LMK settings, trying different combinations, to no avail. And I did report it in the Nougat ROM thread for that phone. (Marshmallow ROM thread no longer has support.)
So, while I totally agree with your answer, it is the technically correct answer, I do understand the OP's concern. I've gotten to the point where I like to see more free RAM, so I know my phone isn't about to freeze up. At least on my old phone.
I love custom ROMs, but the past couple of weeks it's been nice to run stock on my new LG V30 and have a very fluid experience. I've not disabled anything. I saw some others disable stuff and then got lagging. I've not touched a thing and my phone is very smooth.
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Interesting. It does seem like stock ROMs tend to be more conservative with RAM usage, whereas custom ROMs will have less aggressive minfree settings in order to keep more stuff loaded up. "Unused RAM is wasted RAM", but only up to a certain point; in my experience (Maserati with its ancient kernel as well as Quark) approaching ~100mb of free memory in LP/MM/N can bring things to a crawl, and pushing it can cause a kernel panic :good:
The only issue I've seen in Quark RR has been with the Pixiv app, though, and it does exactly what you said. But...I'm fairly certain the app itself leaks memory, as it only happens after browsing a while and is perfectly fine for another stretch after it OOMs and restarts.
My experience with stock ROMs in the past - Quark included - has been "smooth but lacking in features/customization" --- I've never really understood the complaints that stock is slow and claims that custom is blazing fast in comparison. The OEM has a decided advantage in that they have all the tools they need to compile the ROM properly, with then-current driver and kernel sources and a deep understanding of the hardware...I'd be really surprised to find a stock ROM from the last few years to be slower than custom.
But to be honest, my sample size is pretty small. *shrugs* I stick by what I've said, though, if anything the V30 doesn't use its memory enough; some people have complained about apps popping out of memory sooner than expected. LG is still putting out updates too, if a memory-management problem is found, hopefully they'll get right on fixing it.