Gps with Turn by Turn Software? - Wing, P4350 Accessories

Hi all, Im looking to buy an external GPS for my Wing. I use Google maps alot, and I was wondering if I buy an external gps, will it constantly update my location? If not, is there a program out there, perhaps one that would come with the GPS, that would gimme a view like this? Or something similar?
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Any info is appreciated. Thanks!

iGo6 is the best that I have found. It works well with the wing. iGo8 is out, but it uses a lot of resources and has a tendency to freeze up. There are quite a few programs, nd most of them have the same kind of format.

I use tomtom navigator 6, version 7 is about to be released as well. 'preview' version can be found on the net.

Would I need to buy a specific GPS Dongle? Or if I bought a random one off Ebay, Like a generic one, would it work just as well with those programs?

Any generic Bluetooth GPS receiver should work. I would do a little research before you buy, because you can find some sweet deals on some good receivers, or else you could get a sweet deal on a crappy receiver. I don't know a lot about them, but when I was shopping for mine about 3 mon ago, there were a lot to be found. Google is your friend with this kind of thing.

splayer7 said:
iGo6 is the best that I have found. It works well with the wing. iGo8 is out, but it uses a lot of resources and has a tendency to freeze up. There are quite a few programs, nd most of them have the same kind of format.
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I used to have IGO6 but for some reason it never displayed the maps I got that's why I just decided to get rid of it... (that was before I found out about this forum)

I've been using Copilot Live 7 (ALK Technologies) on the Wing with an external Bluetooth GPS for a few months now. It does use a fair amount of memory so you may have to close down some processes before using it, but the software is stable and works well. Turn by turn directions, national map database on the MicrosSD card, voice instructions, etc.
BTW, running the Wing on an Aserg ROM, not the TMO factory one...

TomTom
Tom Tom is the best that I have used. I bought a generic GPS off eBay that cost me around $60 and tried several (Delorme, iGo, Google, etc.) then I got the Tom Tom PPC CD image off torrentz. Works like a charm! Need at least 1gb card though. It takes the whole thing if thats all you have. Thats why I bought an 8gb. Tom Tom is awesome!! You can search for a gas station or restaurant and just click on it with your finger and it automatically calls them for you. Just MY recommendation...

I've got TomTom 7 running on my Wing just fine, and that's the software I can only recommend for its clean layout and ease of use.
PS: Isn't iGo 8 the current version of that package? That's what I was playing around with the other day.

Im using an iBlue 737 bluetooth puck with Nav4All. Works pretty darn well for a free program, not as fancy looking as TeleNav or most of the others, but still does the job. Check out www.buygpsnow.com for external GPS receivers.

Garmin XT works great with the Wing. You will need to get a bluetooth gps receiver. Garmin does have those as well if you want to stick with everything being Garmin.

I can recommend you an Holux GR-236. I used that one during my Nijmegen march for GPS Trakking. It comes with a handy accu from Nokia, some differnt equiment like a car charger.
The device has a SIRF III Chip, what makes it stable with nearly no connection loos. I used the program "NoniGPSPlot", you can find the result under http://www.schaefers-daheim.de -> Nijmegen 2008-> the first one.
Have fun

Anyone Try iGuidance 4?
I've been using it for a few months now and it seems pretty good. Has voice guided turn-by-turn w/spoken street names.
Check it Out

I don't need the software...anyone have any gps dongles they'd recommend for the Wing?

Kosmos said:
I don't need the software...anyone have any gps dongles they'd recommend for the Wing?
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rayrayz98 said:
Im using an iBlue 737 bluetooth puck with Nav4All. Works pretty darn well for a free program, not as fancy looking as TeleNav or most of the others, but still does the job. Check out www.buygpsnow.com for external GPS receivers.
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Any one have a IGO8 without freezing ? I Use the TomTom, but I love the IGO8

i was using TomTom5 for a while
now i am using TomTom7 successfully.
the new Versions have big advantages
- when you are using the Touchscreen (what i am doing the most time)
- when you are at low memory (it is able to stop TouchFlow 2d)
GPS:
i am Using "Blumax GPS 710" (with TT5 and TT7) i am sure it's outdated because some new models from Blumax are accessible now.
but it's capacity is great normaly i am able to use it for 12 hours before i have to charge it again.

Im Using Google Nav 5.2 its aosum with my Mavin SiRF lll its pretty smoooth no problems but i recommend Google Nav if u hav the cash for it.

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Wifi cracking for the HTC?

I jsut want to know if there is anything that can sniff/crack wifi's for the HTC.?
hmmm, not to do the work but this can scan networks and capture packets for another machine to analyse:
http://commview-for-wifi-ppc.download-528-16895.datapicks.com/
Work on it was discontinued a hiwle ago and I'm not sure how it'll run on WM6 and a Titan.
Keystone said:
hmmm, not to do the work but this can scan networks and capture packets for another machine to analyse:
http://commview-for-wifi-ppc.download-528-16895.datapicks.com/
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I don't want to do anything too wrong like snoop on people etc, I just want something I can use whilst at a bustop and log onto the local 7-11/esso/macks/subways etc wireless network and use internet.
That sounds like some fun stuff to kill time while waiting for transit...I just can't seem to find the CommView for WiFi PPC anywhere for download....Any luck anywhere else?
wififofum is a great wardriving software and it will tell you all the networks around and give you their signal strength and encryption type (if any). You might be able to at least find open networks this way....
WiFiFoFum is definitely the best out there right now for what you want.
Enjoy.
View attachment WiFiFoFum.CAB
Our phones dont support promiscuous mode which is that it wont alow us to capture random flying data. and all WiFiFoFum does is tell where a wifi hotspot is thats all. Best thing to do saddly is get a laptop with a wificard that can support promiscuous mode put on BackTrack Linux and then crack the password that way my friend and I wrote a program last year that cracks passwords but all it does it sends random passwords to the router which drains the battery to fast to even use the phone once cracked. I'll look for the program and post the CAB for it if i can find it.
He asked for a program for our phones that can sniff Wifi. That is exactly what WiFiFoFum does. Yes, it does not "crack" wifi, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which ones are open and which use security. Good luck trying to find a program for the Titan that can "crack" wifi passwords.
or one can just get a data package LOL
Tregrad said:
or one can just get a data package LOL
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No comparison between the fun of cracking a wep and having to pay the man for a slower connx where my provider can tell what I am doing, give me the link for that cab dc13!!
Gcincotta you are probably right that no prog will crack those connections on its own, although wififofum radar is great for wardriving on all networks. I will continue to use backtrack when I am about and need to connect to whatever is closest.
http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/231/42/
THX
Screw backtrack...
I'll stick with my laptop running Gentoo with Kismet. Orinoco WLAN card with external antenna connected to my parabolic dish mounted on the roof of the car. And festival installed with sound from my laptop routed through my car speakers to tell me everything I need to know without looking down at my laptop.
gcincotta said:
Screw backtrack...
I'll stick with my laptop running Gentoo with Kismet. Orinoco WLAN card with external antenna connected to my parabolic dish mounted on the roof of the car. And festival installed with sound from my laptop routed through my car speakers to tell me everything I need to know without looking down at my laptop.
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Sweet. That sounds friggin beautiful.
How big is your parabolic dish? Is this you??? J/K
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There is also AirScanner. :http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/sniffer/sniffer.html
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[email protected]$ said:
There is also AirScanner. :http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/sniffer/sniffer.html
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I read about this before but couldn't remember the name when this thread came up. Anyone used it?
serfboreds said:
I read about this before but couldn't remember the name when this thread came up. Anyone used it?
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I used it on a hermes ( monitoring the WiFi connection at work ) but I haven't tested it on my X6800.
[email protected]$ said:
I used it on a hermes ( monitoring the WiFi connection at work ) but I haven't tested it on my X6800.
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I just got this and am using it, but I got an error that the titan's wifi doesn't support promiscuous mode.
Gcincotta or Carlos, is this true? FYI - I chose "IEEE 802.11b/g Compatible Wi-Fi Adapter" for the adaptor to monitor.
Looked promising until I saw this message. Could this work as an "external" wifi card (if promiscuous mode is an option)?
http://www.elite-electronix.com/product_info.php?products_id=827&language=en&cPath=193
PM me if you need it.
serfboreds said:
I just got this and am using it, but I got an error that the titan's wifi doesn't support promiscuous mode.
Gcincotta or Carlos, is this true? FYI - I chose "IEEE 802.11b/g Compatible Wi-Fi Adapter" for the adaptor to monitor.
Looked promising until I saw this message. Could this work as an "external" wifi card (if promiscuous mode is an option)?
http://www.elite-electronix.com/product_info.php?products_id=827&language=en&cPath=193
PM me if you need it.
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I just revised the manual and this is what I found
" 2.1.2 Drivers
Once you have the appropriate hardware, you still need to ensure that your OS has
the right drivers to use that hardware. This can be a tricky part of getting a sniffer to work
properly, and it is why many sniffers either run on Unix based OSs, or require a special
driver to be installed before it will work in Windows.
In the case of the mobile Windows environment, most general-purpose local sniffers
will work with any WNIC without the need for a special driver or patch. Assuming your
WNIC is working before a sniffer is installed and the sniffer program is compatible with
your card, you will need no extra drivers. This said, if you want to perform wireless
sniffing, your sniffing will be limited. Currently there are no publicly available drivers
that make true promiscuous sniffing a reality for the Pocket PC. Instead, you will only
have access to networks with which your WNIC can associate, and then with only one at
a time. There are ways around this, but it would require you to purchase specialized
hardware and software costing several thousand dollars"
I personally haven't tested this on my XV6800 YET! But I am hoping to get it to work.
Sweet. That sounds friggin beautiful.
How big is your parabolic dish? Is this you??? J/K
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That actually looks identical to mine yes. Don't get the wrong idea, it's not like I drive around with it mounted at all times like some goof...I only mount it when I go wardriving lol.
I just got this and am using it, but I got an error that the titan's wifi doesn't support promiscuous mode.
Gcincotta or Carlos, is this true? FYI - I chose "IEEE 802.11b/g Compatible Wi-Fi Adapter" for the adaptor to monitor.
Looked promising until I saw this message. Could this work as an "external" wifi card (if promiscuous mode is an option)?
http://www.elite-electronix.com/prod...e=en&cPath=193
PM me if you need it.
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Here's the deal with the Titan. Even though Airscanner has promiscuous (monitor) mode, the Titan Wifi hardware does not support it. It only supports active mode. Injection also will not work, so even if the Titan's Wifi COULD be used in promiscuous mode, I hope the OP plans to sit in the same place for hours and hours while trying to crack the network.
gcincotta said:
That actually looks identical to mine yes. Don't get the wrong idea, it's not like I drive around with it mounted at all times like some goof...I only mount it when I go wardriving lol.
Here's the deal with the Titan. Even though Airscanner has promiscuous (monitor) mode, the Titan Wifi hardware does not support it. It only supports active mode. Injection also will not work, so even if the Titan's Wifi COULD be used in promiscuous mode, I hope the OP plans to sit in the same place for hours and hours while trying to crack the network.
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I think someone would notice if you were sitting in front of their house pointing that at their window. LOL
Bummer about the titan, could you give me the link to those progs you mentioned earlier. I want to make sure I have the most recent versions and you sound like you keep them current. Any links or tutorials on methodology, I know backtrack so it should be similar but I would need to get up to speed.
I only go wardriving at night for that reason lol.
Gentoo Linux - http://www.gentoo.org/
Kismet - http://www.kismetwireless.net/
Festival - http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/

My camera stopped working...

hi all, just asking for a problem now...
My camera stopped working, i can view only black, black and black
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However, when i open htc camera my device slows up a lot, then if i close htc camera all become normal.
So i don't know how to solve this, i hope only that isn't an hardware fault as cmonex said and hope anyone can help me and my athena's camera to live again.
Thanks for reading,
Michele.
Have you tried a hard reset?
For what is worth, my camera also doesn't work - it looks just like yours - black.
I have your ROM installed and I always assumed that is somehow ROM related, but I haven't really tried the camera when I got my Athena (it's not really important for me...) first time I have tried to use it was when I already flashed 1.88 ROM and now with 2.04 ROM.
My camera stopped and i saw just a green screen when i do a soft reset it is start again , i use the micky lastest rom , And in this day I see some buges on camera
it doesn't depend upon my rom, tried to change some roms (original too) but nothing, it remain black
I have been using MiChY's ROM 2.04 MiChY Diamond Edition (5.2.20273, build 20273.1.3.3), camera works normally.
have you tried another camera software like CoolCamera
Time to visit the service centre.
i can't even get my camera to initialise!!!
It was fine until I upgraded the spl in order to play with the new roms. Surely the balance of probabilty would suggest that a hardware failure is less likely than a problem with spl or the rom?
Even downgrading the spl and using michy's rom has not helped
Is it posible to manually install the camera?
i never changed spl. Only installed 1.2 olipro, from there no other change to spl.
I do not remember if my athena has fallen down but i think not.
So this is an internal problem. Now i can view, not only i have this problem too...hope to find a solution
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i never changed spl. Only installed 1.2 olipro, from there no other change to spl.
I do not remember if my athena has fallen down but i think not.
So this is an internal problem. Now i can view, not only i have this problem too...hope to find a solution
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I would suggest you and the likes try flash back the factory ROM on the device and see if that helps any. If it does from there, you can start fine tuning to see excatly what's going on. Just my 2 cents, and today I noticed some green lines but that might have been due to me focusing on my monitor at work to snap a shot of the webpage I was on. I'm using AP 4.0 with 3.5SPL if anyone's curious. Again just my 2 cents but you guys should give it a shot, just to see if that kicks it back in.
flashed a lot of roms, wm6 original too. nothing, forever the same...
dry joints?
Hi Michy,
Sorry to hear about your problem, I'm not sure that your camera problems are from rom faults as my camera is fine on 2.04. the camera on our units only connect to the mother board via a pressed together joints. This could be what is wrong. Are you brave enough to take your unit to bits? its actualy quite easy if you follow the service manual and have the correct tools, then just whipe the contacts to the camera and board clean with a cotton bud. I had the same fault on another HTC unit and this worked. however it may not though!
Regards
Jay
strange...
when I have the time i'll open it...
but...I noticed that the camera flash works, I think if is this camera's flash do not works...
mah!
WM 6.1 has a policy setting you can use to disable camera among others. You are sure you haven't set this "deny camera" policy?
Probably not as this would be reset when you install a new rom.....
hehe, if my rom have camera disabled, other users could have my problem too
Mine also have this problem....
Anyone can solve this problem??????
responderman said:
Hi Michy,
Sorry to hear about your problem, I'm not sure that your camera problems are from rom faults as my camera is fine on 2.04. the camera on our units only connect to the mother board via a pressed together joints. This could be what is wrong. Are you brave enough to take your unit to bits? its actualy quite easy if you follow the service manual and have the correct tools, then just whipe the contacts to the camera and board clean with a cotton bud. I had the same fault on another HTC unit and this worked. however it may not though!
Regards
Jay
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Hi responderman,
I have dismantled my Dopod u1000 (athena x7500) to bits a few times. I am having camera problems. But i noticed that the camera is connected to the flash and appears to be soldered onto the main board. I tried wiping the back portion of the camera believing it to be where the cmos sensor is located but did not notice any feedbacks on my lcd screen showing that my wiping action is affecting the camera in anyway. As for removing the camera and cleaning the connections i haven't tried that because as i said, it appears to be connected to the flash and the flash appears to be soldered onto the main board.
Any ideas or info? Thanks!
I also have my camera broken, only after a month I bought it, it started showing some green effect though it barely showed the image, even after hard reset, ROM change there was no change, recently my device fell from a table, and since that I have the same screen as Michy's, most of the time Camera doesn't initialize.
I believe it is camera hardware that is broken.
well i think that too. for that i'm not trying to restore it anymore. if anyone got it to work, plz share

Not for fanboys: Prime in the car GPS test after Jan 19th US update

If you're tired of threads like these, about GPS and the Prime, please leave. Nobody is forcing you to click and read. Stop. Go try to troll somewhere else.
For those who care, please keep going.
EDIT: I did more testing on page 9, adding a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 wifi only to the mix: link.
I'm pretty happy with most aspects of my prime, and can't wait to get the keyboard. Without the keyboard, IMHO, the Prime is definetely not worth having. GPS sucks and wi-fi is weak, the iPad 2 is better for games, so don't try. Android for me is like a swiss knive, it should work anywhere, everywhere for a variety of purposes. Not for entertainment, but for traffic, cop warning, and navigation too, Google maps/navigator with google earth like satellite maps look incredible in the car, and the voice control is just the icying in the cake (as you can see, I have GPS in my Toyota too, but it's not even close).
But now I'm going to talk about GPS. I just did the latest update, and I took it for a ride. Bottom line is, it is improved, a bit, but it is still weak. Weak as in weaker than any other GPS I have, tablet or phone (including the Blackberry Torch, for instance, how old is that?).
In the above I have some pictures comparing it to another very good tablet, the Samsung 8.9 LTE.
For what follow, I have both devices connected via wi-fi to my Samsung Skyrocket to download maps. Both were used where I've never been before with neither tablet, so no cache or saved sats, as far as I can tell.
One tablet, the Galaxy tab 8.9 LTE was placed where it always is, in a Proclip USA cradle. The Asus Prime was laying screen side up on top of the center console, and the sunroof inner cover was open. Overcast/raining day.
Here's some pictures: Both connected to my wi-fi hotspot, "Wissenschaft der Logik".
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Right after going 40mph after getting a fix (and stopping for pics):
But the Samsung is still going strong, no issues:
And as soon as the cars stops, the Asus reaquires satellites:
But it's very weak, no fix, and even when it gets a fix, the S/N ratio (and the precision) never is even close to the Samsung.
I had asked ProClip USA to produce a tablet holder for my car(s), but perhaps I should write back telling them it's not going to work for such purpose (or tourism, or train ride, or whatever else you'd like to use google maps for).
It's no scientific proof of anything, it's just a pictorial history of my findings. It's unfortunate that a high-end tablet lacks that feature.
To make matters worse, even when the GPS Test app reports a lock, it's frequently not enough for Google Earth to find the particular street I'm in. Just the general area is highlighted. Pretty poor, really. End of story.
If you have a different experience in the car, please post.
Thanks for the testing.
OT: What do you use to mount your Samsung tablet?
bscotth said:
Thanks for the testing.
OT: What do you use to mount your Samsung tablet?
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Sure.
Here is the link: ProclipUSA.com Galaxy Tab 8.9 mount.
you do know why the GPS is weak in Primes right?
in case not it's the aluminum condom they put on it to protect it from GPS signals....
Nice test, and it proves what we already knew: The Prime's GPS is weak.
So if you going to use it GPS/Navigation: return it, and buy another tablet. For everything else, it's the best android tablet by far.
YoMarK said:
Nice test, and it proves what we already knew: The Prime's GPS is weak.
So if you going to use it GPS/Navigation: return it, and buy another tablet. For everything else, it's the best android tablet by far.
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Well judging by his post he doesnt seem to be too fond of it.
Why don't you use your car's own navigation system?
I can understand the complaints against GPS, but if it was me, and i was reliant on the GPS for work etc, i would simply just buy a GPS bluetooth reciever to use with it. Way i see it is the prime is worth the money without GPS chip. I'd prefer it working 100% but its not device critical especially when bluetooth GPS devices are cheap enough.
Think of it like the usual crappy headphones they package with things .. everyone always buys better quality ones to replace them ?
There are always those saying, why don't you just use the car's GPS, or who would use it for navigation anyway? Apparently some people don't get out much. There are other forms of transportation and other outdoor uses which make GPS very desirable for some of us.
Using your rationalization, one could say why do you need a tablet? Why not just use a loptop? It's faster and does things that your tablet can't do.
The prime is a nice device, but it does have it's flaws whether you admit to yourselves or not. When and if Asus get's it completed, I may buy another.
Ehh
I get the same numbers that you were for accuracy, as in it floats between 100 and 60 feet but then I used it for navigation and it worked fine. So Im not sure if its just a reporting error.
I tested it with Run Keeper the other day and besides one small drop in the beginning It was spot on. I'll Try and upload pics to this post later Im at work now.
Mined you this was all before the update. So I'll give it a retest on the way home today and see if it improved. I will admit I did have it sitting on top of the dash so the antenna was facing directly skyward unlike your facing the driver setup.
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There are always those saying, why don't you just use the car's GPS, or who would use it for navigation anyway? Apparently some people don't get out much. There are other forms of transportation and other outdoor uses which make GPS very desirable for some of us.
Using your rationalization, one could say why do you need a tablet? Why not just use a loptop? It's faster and does things that your tablet can't do.
The prime is a nice device, but it does have it's flaws whether you admit to yourselves or not. When and if Asus get's it completed, I may buy another.
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non-sense, it doesn't make any sense to try to use a tablet over a device that's designed specifically for the purpose that you're trying to accomplish. Now I can understand those who don't have GPS navigation in their cars being disappointed but it makes no sense to me of what I see the OP doing. Just my two cents.
the_game_master said:
non-sense, it doesn't make any sense to try to use a tablet over a device that's designed specifically for the purpose that you're trying to accomplish. Now I can understand those who don't have GPS navigation in their cars being disappointed but it makes no sense to me of what I see the OP doing. Just my two cents.
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Agreed. And how many people own a tablet but not a smart phone?
People need to get over this gps thing.
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the_game_master said:
non-sense, it doesn't make any sense to try to use a tablet over a device that's designed specifically for the purpose that you're trying to accomplish. Now I can understand those who don't have GPS navigation in their cars being disappointed but it makes no sense to me of what I see the OP doing. Just my two cents.
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I could also say non-sense, it doesn't make any sense to build a feature in a device and decide it is OK for it not to perform as it should, and does in other tablets, just because you can use another device for that purpose. Any way you sugar coat it, and try to make it OK, it is a defect. Your attempts to justify this are just rationalization.
It is apparent we have different concepts of what is acceptable. Rather than continue this argument of opinions, we must just agree to disagree.
Good luck.
Problem solved:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TomTom-Blue...ccessories&hash=item1e6895e1dc#ht_8325wt_1396
This whole thing is pretty funny. You've got an LTE tablet and a WIFI tablet. The WIFI tablet is admittedly pulling data from a second device (a phone) and you are trying to use GPS out of the device with lesser connectivity.
The point is when you are out and about, the Prime cannot be used as a standalone device, it has to tether through something. I could see more of an argument if the Sammy's GPS was crap, I mean by giving it LTE it should work anywhere it can get a data signal. The Prime can't, you've got to use another device, which will have it's own GPS to even get the thing going in the first place.
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The point is when you are out and about, the Prime cannot be used as a standalone device, it has to tether through something. I could see more of an argument if the Sammy's GPS was crap, I mean by giving it LTE it should work anywhere it can get a data signal. The Prime can't, you've got to use another device, which will have it's own GPS to even get the thing going in the first place.
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You seem to be confused about what AGPS does. The wifi is only used to help the GPS get the initial fix faster, after that it should run as a standalone GPS just fine without WIFI. (if it worked correctly)
With that said I think we all already know that the GPS is mostly rubbish on this device. No amount of firmware updates or software tweaks can overcome a bad hardware design, that even ASUS has admitted already. This is basic physics and nobody can write software that fixes this issue. I personally don't believe we need anymore posts on the topic regardless of how well intentioned they might be.
There are three things that are used by GPS:
GPS itself, it detects satellites and calculates its location based on those satellites. It finds satellites and gets location data from those satellites which it then uses to figure out its own location (GPS device is not told by GPS satellites where it is, GPS satellites simply tell where they are). Differently from typical networks that calculate position by triangulation with three cell towers, GPS requires locks on four satellites. This is because GPS also takes altitude into consideration.
AGPS is used to update the database (sort of cache) of GPS satellites. The more up to date this data is, the quicker it can find locks. When GPS signals are weak then this 'assisted' data can be used to figure out incorrect data from correct one. AGPS does not require 3G, it just requires internet. It can improve the amount of time it takes to lock onto GPS satellites signal. It is also possible that AGPS calculates its position from cell towers based on signal strength (this is not called actually AGPS, but is often labeled as one, it is actually Cell-Site Triangulation), this causes possibly inaccurate position (the wide wide circle you see on Google Maps for your position sometimes)
WiFi is used to a) update the AGPS database and b) get information from Google about the approximate location of the device (this is called Wi-Fi Positioning System). Google knows locations of certain WiFi networks, so when you are connected to specific WiFi device, it can lock your position down much quicker since it looks up the location of the WiFi device.
So it is a three-layered process. If your WiFi network is known by Google then you will get WiFi lock much quicker. The widest circle is usually AGPS with just cell-tower information, smaller circle is usually achieved by just WiFi positioning and smallest circle when you actually have a GPS lock.
Azeolus said:
This whole thing is pretty funny. You've got an LTE tablet and a WIFI tablet. The WIFI tablet is admittedly pulling data from a second device (a phone) and you are trying to use GPS out of the device with lesser connectivity.
The point is when you are out and about, the Prime cannot be used as a standalone device, it has to tether through something. I could see more of an argument if the Sammy's GPS was crap, I mean by giving it LTE it should work anywhere it can get a data signal. The Prime can't, you've got to use another device, which will have it's own GPS to even get the thing going in the first place.
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GPS = global positining system. Works anywhere on the globe (that's planet earth, if you don't know).
No GPS requires internet, internet connection helps you acquire faster. You do realize there are offline maps which can be used without internet connection right?
The point is...it doesn't matter how people use their tablet. It has a gps, I should be able to use it anyway I want to use it.
People who have no need for GPS good for you, but how the hell are you going to tell other people that they don't need it. You don't know that.
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good question....
nice comparison though
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GPS = global positining system. Works anywhere on the globe (that's planet earth, if you don't know).
No GPS requires internet, internet connection helps you acquire faster. You do realize there are offline maps which can be used without internet connection right?
The point is...it doesn't matter how people use their tablet. It has a gps, I should be able to use it anyway I want to use it.
People who have no need for GPS good for you, but how the hell are you going to tell other people that they don't need it. You don't know that.
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I really don't get the attitude of some of these sheeple. They can't envision someone using something in a manner they themselves do not. I went through this same idiocy with the Vibrant launch and its GPS issues. Morons would say "Well it works as a phone, you bought a phone, right?" Yeah, for $500 (before subsidy).
WTH is the matter with these people? Do they like big business ****ting all over them?

Who said GPS does not work......

I have my prime 2 days already. I have not had any problem with light leak, wifi, Gps, deadpixel, unknown serial. I bought this prime used (like new) on graiglist for $350.
Serial # BC
Model - 32gb
OS - ICS 4.0.3
Test time- 5 minutes
Gps first satellite lock - 32 seconds
GPS 14 found - 10 lock Satellite lock - 1:07 minutes
Gps max satellites found - 16
Gps max satellites lock - 12
This was done 5 minute spare time while driving to work.
Long island new york
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Cool story bro.
(Prepare for lots of people to come in and complain about their gps)
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Have to say mine is Similar GPS just worked, Wifi is decent for what it is, work all around my house without losing connection, Haven't tried BT yet, Drove all over Detroit with mine with Wiggle Wifi up for a Class project, and it never skipped a beat, GPS locked within a minutes of launching program.
Dad bought one about a Week before me, GPS does not work, Haven't checked S/Ns yet but his is also updated to ICS where mine is not, I decided to stay back on Honeycomb for a bit
My 32gb wasnt working earlier. I tried again inside my house and got 7 satellites in a few seconds.
Do u need internet connection to use maps because it wont open without it?
I just figured if u had GPS that's all u needed.
Seeing as the Thrive has no 3g connection you will need a wifi connection to get MAPs in Google maps as there downloaded from the server as needed, there sued to be a way to D/L them before hand though i don't know if it exists anymore
kerryking1 said:
My 32gb wasnt working earlier. I tried again inside my house and got 7 satellites in a few seconds.
Do u need internet connection to use maps because it wont open without it?
I just figured if u had GPS that's all u needed.
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Maps pulls all of its data from Google servers, in particular initially (it'll cache some data afterwards), and so you do need an Internet connection when you first start it up. And, it'll use wifi-based location services to locate you on the map, so it's not a good test of whether GPS is working.
Very weak signal compared to other devices, and this has come up a million times, yes it works. Yes it has a very weak signal.
Keeps getting better every time I use it. Why do screen shots look so bad? Is there a setting for them? I guess there is a setting but it doesnt look much better. If I used the rooted screenshot app it would look better.
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I have my prime 2 days already. I have not had any problem with light leak, wifi, Gps, deadpixel, unknown serial. I bought this prime used (like new) on graiglist for $350.
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Because yours work, does that mean the many people who have problems with GPS connection do not know what they are talking about? Congratulations on getting a Prime with no issues. Who says GPS does not work? I say mine does not. Not at all. Not one satellite and don't get me started on the weak a$$ wifi. BTW, how far from your router can you go for a strong wifi connection with your Prime compared to your other wifi devices?
Weak! Im guessing this is your first device with GPS. My prime performs like yours and I rather use the GPS over BT in a combo with my Atrix. I will no longer need GPS on the prime once the note hits the streets.

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For the record, I was really trying not to rant about my Prime...
C1OKAS s/n. GPS in-op. Bt/Wifi - good. Connected my Jawbone Icon and then started watching Archer on Netflix (A2DP to Icon), never experienced wifi degradation. So that seemed good. Wifi reception was as good as my OG Evo 4g and Asus 1018P netbook.
Updated to ICS out of the box. Rooted after it became apparent that I needed to.
So to begin the rant: This tablet is useless out of the box. I stream my movies from my desktop (.wmv b/c that's what my samsung tv accepts) from my computer - the prime can't. Downloaded dice player free - super choppy, will work it out later. Started dl'ing apps n actually paying for them since I now have an interface that is more user-friendly (in size). Couldn't wait to go to work and use it through out my day--------SCREECHING HALT!!! NO AD HOC WIFI SUPPORT IN ICS!!! Which means no tethering to our phones. At this point I was letting some things go, i.e. the excessive light bleed all across bottom and right side, the in-op GPS, the inabilty to stream movies on my existing network, and the buggy interface that kept making apps appear and disappear on my home screens. So now I am in the worst situation of all, I have to RMA it to Asus b/c I made 2 noob mistakes while fixing my ad hoc issue. I rooted so I could use certain apps, then realized I can fix ad hoc support. So I started working on that and accidentally changed my '/system/bin' folder to '/system/bin - Copy'. This was a slip of my finger and that was that. Couldn't change it back for whatever reason. Then I made the grave mistake of rebooting. Haven't gotten passed the Eee Pad screen since. Tried many many things to no avail. So at this point, I made a big mistake and I am Boned b/c Asus thought it wise to lock the bootloader. Otherwise, I could've rooted and loaded a custom recovery yada yada, backed up, restored.....
I will end this saying that I have a $750+ paper weight b/c of my own actions, but this never would have happened if I had an unlocked bootloader, ad hoc support, and more basic functionality that modern electronics are expected to come equipped with. Asus, you have made one damn fine looking device, but where the hell is the functionality that we have come to expect from you? My Asus 1018P netbook has bluetooth 3.0 and usb 3.0 and I bought it 2 years ago! Why doesn't this tablet have much more functionality out of the box? It definitely has a steep learning curve and this is exactly why Android is always going to be in second place! Make a damn finished & functioning product before releasing it for Christ sakes!
Yeah yeah I know......Cool Story Bro. Don't flame me for being right. I was hoping/expecting to get a good one, but apparently the flaws are more widespread than I imagined.
AFAIK, there has been no AD-HOC support in ANY Android tablets I have tried out of the box. This held true for the Xoom (had to root and custom rom before it worked) and the Toshiba Thrive. I did not expect AD-HOC to work out of the box at all honestly.
That said, Sprint Hotspot works perfectly.
Honestly, I do not think it fair that you would be pissed at the device because you caused the damage trying to make it do something that it natively did not have support for. I am all for tinkering, rooting, etc....but I am aware that there may be unforeseeable consequences that go along with it.
I wifi tether to my phone with my prime all the time. Unless I'm missing something and you're using a method other than portable hotspot?
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I wifi tether to my phone with my prime all the time. Unless I'm missing something and you're using a method other than portable hotspot?
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Sounds like you've got infrastructure capes on your phone. Not all of them do and require an ad hoc connection. ICS doesn't suppor the later.
We already have ad hoc network tethering working on ICS. Check out QnA section on how to enable it again. Very simple, requires root though. Its the thread created by lock n load.
A bit off topic but I'm curious why are you guys tethering from the tablet to your phone? If you're worried about data usage because of data plan caps why don't you make the phone connect to the same wifi source the prime is connecting to? Idknwhat ad-hoc is so maybe someone can fill me in why u would connect to wifi just to make it go from the prime to your phone.
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A bit off topic but I'm curious why are you guys tethering from the tablet to your phone?
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Erhhh, to get data on their tablet when they are not in range of a WiFi AP?
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yoursexyhero said:
A bit off topic but I'm curious why are you guys tethering from the tablet to your phone? If you're worried about data usage because of data plan caps why don't you make the phone connect to the same wifi source the prime is connecting to? Idknwhat ad-hoc is so maybe someone can fill me in why u would connect to wifi just to make it go from the prime to your phone.
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I think they mean tethering from phone to the prime. Or if you have a laptop with wireless card, you could tether that connection to the prime.
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Erhhh, to get data on their tablet when they are not in range of a WiFi AP?
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Confused.......so ur not tethering FROM the phone to the tablet?
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I believe you can download the original rom image from asus's website, put the rom on a micro sd card and flash it thru the stock recovery.
search the forum, i think someone have brick the prime and fixed it that way...
good luck.
Movies seems to work fine for me using Splashtop or one of the VLC apps.
What about MKV files??
VLC Pro works awesome.
So you have a few problems:
1) You want to stream video with the most crappy, worst supported and most hated codec ever: WMV(Windows Media Video) ? The fact that that's the only format your Samsung TV supports, does only say something about your Samsung TV. The Prime plays almost every format I trow at it just fine, even High profile 1080p h264 MKV files. Most other "Premium" tablets can't do this. My advice is: use a normal video codec, and the file will play just fine.
2) You rooted your tablet, and renamed the entire /system/bin/ folder, thus bricking you device. I feel sorry for you, but you sound like the Prime is to blame.
3) Then the rant about a locked bootloader. You're right...this is something ASUS should never have done, but you know you can probably flash every original firmware(they are signed so they do work with the current bootloader) back right. I've seen this mentioned elsewhere.
4) Ad Hoc WiFI: My Prime connects without problem to my phone(Nexus One with ICS 4.03). Maybe it has something to do with encryption, because with WPA2-PSK with password set Wifi hotspot works fine. Even without rooting.
I am so thankful you seem to be the only one who has figured out that we should have a post about complaints on this tablet.
WAIT..... I am sorry - I am mistaken. There are 15,000 threads about this stuff already. You must have thought your thread would be more special. My apologies.

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