For the record, I was really trying not to rant about my Prime...
C1OKAS s/n. GPS in-op. Bt/Wifi - good. Connected my Jawbone Icon and then started watching Archer on Netflix (A2DP to Icon), never experienced wifi degradation. So that seemed good. Wifi reception was as good as my OG Evo 4g and Asus 1018P netbook.
Updated to ICS out of the box. Rooted after it became apparent that I needed to.
So to begin the rant: This tablet is useless out of the box. I stream my movies from my desktop (.wmv b/c that's what my samsung tv accepts) from my computer - the prime can't. Downloaded dice player free - super choppy, will work it out later. Started dl'ing apps n actually paying for them since I now have an interface that is more user-friendly (in size). Couldn't wait to go to work and use it through out my day--------SCREECHING HALT!!! NO AD HOC WIFI SUPPORT IN ICS!!! Which means no tethering to our phones. At this point I was letting some things go, i.e. the excessive light bleed all across bottom and right side, the in-op GPS, the inabilty to stream movies on my existing network, and the buggy interface that kept making apps appear and disappear on my home screens. So now I am in the worst situation of all, I have to RMA it to Asus b/c I made 2 noob mistakes while fixing my ad hoc issue. I rooted so I could use certain apps, then realized I can fix ad hoc support. So I started working on that and accidentally changed my '/system/bin' folder to '/system/bin - Copy'. This was a slip of my finger and that was that. Couldn't change it back for whatever reason. Then I made the grave mistake of rebooting. Haven't gotten passed the Eee Pad screen since. Tried many many things to no avail. So at this point, I made a big mistake and I am Boned b/c Asus thought it wise to lock the bootloader. Otherwise, I could've rooted and loaded a custom recovery yada yada, backed up, restored.....
I will end this saying that I have a $750+ paper weight b/c of my own actions, but this never would have happened if I had an unlocked bootloader, ad hoc support, and more basic functionality that modern electronics are expected to come equipped with. Asus, you have made one damn fine looking device, but where the hell is the functionality that we have come to expect from you? My Asus 1018P netbook has bluetooth 3.0 and usb 3.0 and I bought it 2 years ago! Why doesn't this tablet have much more functionality out of the box? It definitely has a steep learning curve and this is exactly why Android is always going to be in second place! Make a damn finished & functioning product before releasing it for Christ sakes!
Yeah yeah I know......Cool Story Bro. Don't flame me for being right. I was hoping/expecting to get a good one, but apparently the flaws are more widespread than I imagined.
AFAIK, there has been no AD-HOC support in ANY Android tablets I have tried out of the box. This held true for the Xoom (had to root and custom rom before it worked) and the Toshiba Thrive. I did not expect AD-HOC to work out of the box at all honestly.
That said, Sprint Hotspot works perfectly.
Honestly, I do not think it fair that you would be pissed at the device because you caused the damage trying to make it do something that it natively did not have support for. I am all for tinkering, rooting, etc....but I am aware that there may be unforeseeable consequences that go along with it.
I wifi tether to my phone with my prime all the time. Unless I'm missing something and you're using a method other than portable hotspot?
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I wifi tether to my phone with my prime all the time. Unless I'm missing something and you're using a method other than portable hotspot?
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Sounds like you've got infrastructure capes on your phone. Not all of them do and require an ad hoc connection. ICS doesn't suppor the later.
We already have ad hoc network tethering working on ICS. Check out QnA section on how to enable it again. Very simple, requires root though. Its the thread created by lock n load.
A bit off topic but I'm curious why are you guys tethering from the tablet to your phone? If you're worried about data usage because of data plan caps why don't you make the phone connect to the same wifi source the prime is connecting to? Idknwhat ad-hoc is so maybe someone can fill me in why u would connect to wifi just to make it go from the prime to your phone.
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A bit off topic but I'm curious why are you guys tethering from the tablet to your phone?
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Erhhh, to get data on their tablet when they are not in range of a WiFi AP?
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yoursexyhero said:
A bit off topic but I'm curious why are you guys tethering from the tablet to your phone? If you're worried about data usage because of data plan caps why don't you make the phone connect to the same wifi source the prime is connecting to? Idknwhat ad-hoc is so maybe someone can fill me in why u would connect to wifi just to make it go from the prime to your phone.
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I think they mean tethering from phone to the prime. Or if you have a laptop with wireless card, you could tether that connection to the prime.
foxmeister said:
Erhhh, to get data on their tablet when they are not in range of a WiFi AP?
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Confused.......so ur not tethering FROM the phone to the tablet?
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I believe you can download the original rom image from asus's website, put the rom on a micro sd card and flash it thru the stock recovery.
search the forum, i think someone have brick the prime and fixed it that way...
good luck.
Movies seems to work fine for me using Splashtop or one of the VLC apps.
What about MKV files??
VLC Pro works awesome.
So you have a few problems:
1) You want to stream video with the most crappy, worst supported and most hated codec ever: WMV(Windows Media Video) ? The fact that that's the only format your Samsung TV supports, does only say something about your Samsung TV. The Prime plays almost every format I trow at it just fine, even High profile 1080p h264 MKV files. Most other "Premium" tablets can't do this. My advice is: use a normal video codec, and the file will play just fine.
2) You rooted your tablet, and renamed the entire /system/bin/ folder, thus bricking you device. I feel sorry for you, but you sound like the Prime is to blame.
3) Then the rant about a locked bootloader. You're right...this is something ASUS should never have done, but you know you can probably flash every original firmware(they are signed so they do work with the current bootloader) back right. I've seen this mentioned elsewhere.
4) Ad Hoc WiFI: My Prime connects without problem to my phone(Nexus One with ICS 4.03). Maybe it has something to do with encryption, because with WPA2-PSK with password set Wifi hotspot works fine. Even without rooting.
I am so thankful you seem to be the only one who has figured out that we should have a post about complaints on this tablet.
WAIT..... I am sorry - I am mistaken. There are 15,000 threads about this stuff already. You must have thought your thread would be more special. My apologies.
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I jsut want to know if there is anything that can sniff/crack wifi's for the HTC.?
hmmm, not to do the work but this can scan networks and capture packets for another machine to analyse:
http://commview-for-wifi-ppc.download-528-16895.datapicks.com/
Work on it was discontinued a hiwle ago and I'm not sure how it'll run on WM6 and a Titan.
Keystone said:
hmmm, not to do the work but this can scan networks and capture packets for another machine to analyse:
http://commview-for-wifi-ppc.download-528-16895.datapicks.com/
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I don't want to do anything too wrong like snoop on people etc, I just want something I can use whilst at a bustop and log onto the local 7-11/esso/macks/subways etc wireless network and use internet.
That sounds like some fun stuff to kill time while waiting for transit...I just can't seem to find the CommView for WiFi PPC anywhere for download....Any luck anywhere else?
wififofum is a great wardriving software and it will tell you all the networks around and give you their signal strength and encryption type (if any). You might be able to at least find open networks this way....
WiFiFoFum is definitely the best out there right now for what you want.
Enjoy.
View attachment WiFiFoFum.CAB
Our phones dont support promiscuous mode which is that it wont alow us to capture random flying data. and all WiFiFoFum does is tell where a wifi hotspot is thats all. Best thing to do saddly is get a laptop with a wificard that can support promiscuous mode put on BackTrack Linux and then crack the password that way my friend and I wrote a program last year that cracks passwords but all it does it sends random passwords to the router which drains the battery to fast to even use the phone once cracked. I'll look for the program and post the CAB for it if i can find it.
He asked for a program for our phones that can sniff Wifi. That is exactly what WiFiFoFum does. Yes, it does not "crack" wifi, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which ones are open and which use security. Good luck trying to find a program for the Titan that can "crack" wifi passwords.
or one can just get a data package LOL
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or one can just get a data package LOL
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No comparison between the fun of cracking a wep and having to pay the man for a slower connx where my provider can tell what I am doing, give me the link for that cab dc13!!
Gcincotta you are probably right that no prog will crack those connections on its own, although wififofum radar is great for wardriving on all networks. I will continue to use backtrack when I am about and need to connect to whatever is closest.
http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/231/42/
THX
Screw backtrack...
I'll stick with my laptop running Gentoo with Kismet. Orinoco WLAN card with external antenna connected to my parabolic dish mounted on the roof of the car. And festival installed with sound from my laptop routed through my car speakers to tell me everything I need to know without looking down at my laptop.
gcincotta said:
Screw backtrack...
I'll stick with my laptop running Gentoo with Kismet. Orinoco WLAN card with external antenna connected to my parabolic dish mounted on the roof of the car. And festival installed with sound from my laptop routed through my car speakers to tell me everything I need to know without looking down at my laptop.
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Sweet. That sounds friggin beautiful.
How big is your parabolic dish? Is this you??? J/K
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There is also AirScanner. :http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/sniffer/sniffer.html
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There is also AirScanner. :http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/sniffer/sniffer.html
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I read about this before but couldn't remember the name when this thread came up. Anyone used it?
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I read about this before but couldn't remember the name when this thread came up. Anyone used it?
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I used it on a hermes ( monitoring the WiFi connection at work ) but I haven't tested it on my X6800.
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I used it on a hermes ( monitoring the WiFi connection at work ) but I haven't tested it on my X6800.
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I just got this and am using it, but I got an error that the titan's wifi doesn't support promiscuous mode.
Gcincotta or Carlos, is this true? FYI - I chose "IEEE 802.11b/g Compatible Wi-Fi Adapter" for the adaptor to monitor.
Looked promising until I saw this message. Could this work as an "external" wifi card (if promiscuous mode is an option)?
http://www.elite-electronix.com/product_info.php?products_id=827&language=en&cPath=193
PM me if you need it.
serfboreds said:
I just got this and am using it, but I got an error that the titan's wifi doesn't support promiscuous mode.
Gcincotta or Carlos, is this true? FYI - I chose "IEEE 802.11b/g Compatible Wi-Fi Adapter" for the adaptor to monitor.
Looked promising until I saw this message. Could this work as an "external" wifi card (if promiscuous mode is an option)?
http://www.elite-electronix.com/product_info.php?products_id=827&language=en&cPath=193
PM me if you need it.
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I just revised the manual and this is what I found
" 2.1.2 Drivers
Once you have the appropriate hardware, you still need to ensure that your OS has
the right drivers to use that hardware. This can be a tricky part of getting a sniffer to work
properly, and it is why many sniffers either run on Unix based OSs, or require a special
driver to be installed before it will work in Windows.
In the case of the mobile Windows environment, most general-purpose local sniffers
will work with any WNIC without the need for a special driver or patch. Assuming your
WNIC is working before a sniffer is installed and the sniffer program is compatible with
your card, you will need no extra drivers. This said, if you want to perform wireless
sniffing, your sniffing will be limited. Currently there are no publicly available drivers
that make true promiscuous sniffing a reality for the Pocket PC. Instead, you will only
have access to networks with which your WNIC can associate, and then with only one at
a time. There are ways around this, but it would require you to purchase specialized
hardware and software costing several thousand dollars"
I personally haven't tested this on my XV6800 YET! But I am hoping to get it to work.
Sweet. That sounds friggin beautiful.
How big is your parabolic dish? Is this you??? J/K
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That actually looks identical to mine yes. Don't get the wrong idea, it's not like I drive around with it mounted at all times like some goof...I only mount it when I go wardriving lol.
I just got this and am using it, but I got an error that the titan's wifi doesn't support promiscuous mode.
Gcincotta or Carlos, is this true? FYI - I chose "IEEE 802.11b/g Compatible Wi-Fi Adapter" for the adaptor to monitor.
Looked promising until I saw this message. Could this work as an "external" wifi card (if promiscuous mode is an option)?
http://www.elite-electronix.com/prod...e=en&cPath=193
PM me if you need it.
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Here's the deal with the Titan. Even though Airscanner has promiscuous (monitor) mode, the Titan Wifi hardware does not support it. It only supports active mode. Injection also will not work, so even if the Titan's Wifi COULD be used in promiscuous mode, I hope the OP plans to sit in the same place for hours and hours while trying to crack the network.
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That actually looks identical to mine yes. Don't get the wrong idea, it's not like I drive around with it mounted at all times like some goof...I only mount it when I go wardriving lol.
Here's the deal with the Titan. Even though Airscanner has promiscuous (monitor) mode, the Titan Wifi hardware does not support it. It only supports active mode. Injection also will not work, so even if the Titan's Wifi COULD be used in promiscuous mode, I hope the OP plans to sit in the same place for hours and hours while trying to crack the network.
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I think someone would notice if you were sitting in front of their house pointing that at their window. LOL
Bummer about the titan, could you give me the link to those progs you mentioned earlier. I want to make sure I have the most recent versions and you sound like you keep them current. Any links or tutorials on methodology, I know backtrack so it should be similar but I would need to get up to speed.
I only go wardriving at night for that reason lol.
Gentoo Linux - http://www.gentoo.org/
Kismet - http://www.kismetwireless.net/
Festival - http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/
Ok, so I hear many people saying my wifi works fine, you other guys must have bad wifi cards... Enough of the yea it works fine bs, solid numbers please. Lots of people believe that every prime has bad signal strengths.
Here is my screenshot and testing, lets get some hard numbers from a large number of tablets and then make asus do something about it.
I took my macbook pro, my htc evo 3d and my prime all around my house and ran speedtest.net from each all using the same server and all on the wifi connection moments apart from each other. My router is set to broadcast N only and it on auto channel.
I attached the image my first test, all within 2 meters of my router. Macbook 22.91 mbps, EVO 3d 15.59 and Prime 14.39. this is good. if i got this everywhere id be happy. Its the next test that pisses me off. At about 5 meters and behind one closed door my evo3d gets 7-9 mbps where my prime gets 2-3. at 10 meters and behind 2 closed doors like my bedroom.. my evo gets 6-7 and my prime gets 0.2-0.8 thats 20-80k a second.. not acceptable.. I have run multiple tests always similar results. I will try to get more pics up soon.
Please guys grab the speedtest.net app for your prime and your phone and do these tests and different distances from your router. Lets CONFIRM every prime has this interfernce issue aka the case and make Asus swap the cases or install an rf window at a service cost. I am about to return it and wait for tf700 series.
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just added new pics of testing. 2 meters from router, bout 7 meters in my room(1 door), and 12 meters in my bathroom (2 doors)
as you can see the prime drops off FAST. I always did 3 or 4 tests on each device to rule out bad samples. In the last one you can see the prime got under 2.4mbps for 4 tests.. I KNOW THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN BEAT TO DEATH. but i want to make sure people who think their unit is not flawed actually test. not say ya im connected it loads fast
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I noticed same thing. Also i lose connection often.
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holy **** another "wifi sucks" thread. return the thing and go away! good riddance.
Every Prime doesn't have wifi issue. what's so hard to understand about that? lol mines worked great since 12/22. compared and tested signal range, strength, and download speeds compared to my Ipad and my Atrix 4g. Prime is on par with Ipad n atrix as far as range n signal strength goes. My Prime gets way faster download n upload speeds than other 2. there have already been several polls showing most prime owners here wifi is fine. Stop feeding into the negative hype..lmao
plus hour problem is you have it set to N only. N range has 2 frequencies. 5ghz n another one. prime doesn't support 5 ghz. only other one.
maybe you need to read this article n you will see your issue
www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-basics/30664-5-ways-to-fix-slow-80211n-speed
ill post my speeds in a moment.....OK first test within 2 meters. great speed as i usually pull even faster than this.
2nd test....same spot..even faster
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dilfatx said:
I noticed same thing. Also i lose connection often.
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I didn't mean to thank you. meant to thank other guy saying holy sh.. another wifi sux thread..lol
gundal said:
Ok, so I hear many people saying my wifi works fine, you other guys must have bad wifi cards... Enough of the yea it works fine bs, solid numbers please. Lots of people believe that every prime has bad signal strengths.
Here is my screenshot and testing, lets get some hard numbers from a large number of tablets and then make asus do something about it.
I took my macbook pro, my htc evo 3d and my prime all around my house and ran speedtest.net from each all using the same server and all on the wifi connection moments apart from each other. My router is set to broadcast N only and it on auto channel.
I attached the image my first test, all within 2 meters of my router. Macbook 22.91 mbps, EVO 3d 15.59 and Prime 14.39. this is good. if i got this everywhere id be happy. Its the next test that pisses me off. At about 5 meters and behind one closed door my evo3d gets 7-9 mbps where my prime gets 2-3. at 10 meters and behind 2 closed doors like my bedroom.. my evo gets 6-7 and my prime gets 0.2-0.8 thats 20-80k a second.. not acceptable.. I have run multiple tests always similar results. I will try to get more pics up soon.
Please guys grab the speedtest.net app for your prime and your phone and do these tests and different distances from your router. Lets CONFIRM every prime has this interfernce issue aka the case and make Asus swap the cases or install an rf window at a service cost. I am about to return it and wait for tf700 series.
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I'm just wondering why you didn't show where your prime sucks at 2-3 instead 14?
To make your case, show it the worst possible..
I have read many of these "bad wifi" threads.. ive never seen hard numbers and screenshots .. if I just have to return my prime for another ill be very happy. I just havent seen anyone who says ya my wifi works good show proof. they say it works fine.. wifi has a huge range of speeds... fine isnt an adequate description. I am now gonna read the thread you linked me. But as you said with the n and 5ghz it worked even worse on abgn mixed mode. and i did the testing yesterday i didnt take pics of that but like i said i will now.
Actual tests with number? I haven't done that. I did walk around and look at where I had a signal and where I didn't. The prime is better than any other wifi device I have in as far as getting a signal. My wife's notebook might be better but I didn't compare with it since I don't use it but I do remember being impressed with her notebook when I set it up for her.
As far as speed goes, I was able to stream an HD video over wifi local network without issue. Can't imagine needing it to be faster than that.
If I got bad wifi, then normal wifi is better than I need it to be.
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I have read many of these "bad wifi" threads.. ive never seen hard numbers and screenshots .. if I just have to return my prime for another ill be very happy. I just havent seen anyone who says ya my wifi works good show proof. they say it works fine.. wifi has a huge range of speeds... fine isnt an adequate description. I am now gonna read the thread you linked me. But as you said with the n and 5ghz it worked even worse on abgn mixed mode. and i did the testing yesterday i didnt take pics of that but like i said i will now.
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I see what you saying. I heard Prime doesn't do to well on mixed modes also not sure. Try G only.
As far as my netgear router, I'm not even sure what its on. it is 2.5ghz and I'm on a clear channel. In an apt. building where others have their wireless going also so glad I'm on a channel others aren't using. Used wifi analyzer to determine that info. Don't have a PC hooked up to network. I have Comcast high speed wireless. I have seen others post same results as you then changed to G and produced way better results. night n day difference, from what they said. Speeds do dropoff as distance and barriers are increased no matter what mode you on. As seen in the article linked, N mode is not the best for range anyways.
As I've posted on other threads, after writing a couple of emails, Asus called me and said that there are some bad WiFi-BT chips in the first batch of Primes shipped. They asked to RMA mine so they could hopefully fix it.
Next to my Wifi sources, the Prime would get near full speed (11 Mbps). However, in family room, 20 or 25 feet away, Prime would get about 10% - 30% of that number. Three other devices in the family room all get near full speed.
Here are my results. I am in the basement, id say about 15-20 feet from router. I guess threw the ceiling...lol
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Actual tests with number? I haven't done that. I did walk around and look at where I had a signal and where I didn't. The prime is better than any other wifi device I have in as far as getting a signal. My wife's notebook might be better but I didn't compare with it since I don't use it but I do remember being impressed with her notebook when I set it up for her.
As far as speed goes, I was able to stream an HD video over wifi local network without issue. Can't imagine needing it to be faster than that.
If I got bad wifi, then normal wifi is better than I need it to be.
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Sorry that really isnt any useful information for me. I can stream movies too but when I walk into my room it starts to chop. For you to say if I have bad wifi normal is better then I need it to be, is a ridiculous stance on the subject. We paid for a top of line product, it should match any other high quality wifi device. If its just a bunch of units and I can simply return this for another then I will be happy and will praise this device not be *****ing, but EVEN if switching to G makes it work flawless, its still unacceptable to live with. At work I cannot change the router. In public places you cant change the router. This device should work on any mode as well as my laptop, my phone etc etc.
I did read the thread about the wifi analyzer, and going over my results. I changed to a lower Hz, and changed the channel. I really have no idea what I was doing. I followed the advice of some other posters, and did a couple searches on my router, and it seemed to work. Id say my average is about 25mbs.
For me pages seem to load really fast, BUT a lot of times the page stops loading about 80% of the way thru and I get a pop up saying the BROWSER IS NOT RESPONDING....WAIT/OK. Now that crap drives me crazy.
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I'm getting conflicting results testing the Wi-fi.
Today during the day I went around the house with my laptop, my cell and my Prime testing with speedtest.net and Wi-fi analyzer and the Prime was very consistent on all test.
...but tonight my Prime is getting 1/3 of the speed my laptop is getting. I don't get it.
stopping at 80 percent
Hi,
I think what you are seeing is normal. That's when flash content, often ads, starts to load, and the browser doesn't always resond well when that happens, unfortunately.
Um... if you're using "Speedtest" to test TFP wifi bandwidth and compare with other users' TFP wifi bandwidth, there are serious flaws with this testing methodology.
I ran a battery of tests exactly as you specified. In a separate thread. I tested wifi against tf101, ipad 1, laptop, and nexus prime at various ranges, channels, with and without BT. Prime was as good or better than the ipad in most tests and nearly as good as the laptop. The tf101 was stellar though. Search this forum for 'wifi shootout' and see for yourself.
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I think what many are trying to say and I will echo, is that one more thread for an issue that has been beat to death already is old (I know lol, I am reading the thread and responding), use the existing threads and look at the work that has already been done. I returned mine for dropping wifi based on the work others had done and comparing my results. I may buy another one when ASUS says the problem is resolved and once people are seeing similar results to other devices in their home consitently. There are enough RMA's in the pipeline too that we should get good feedback when they are returned.
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Sorry that really isnt any useful information for me. I can stream movies too but when I walk into my room it starts to chop. For you to say if I have bad wifi normal is better then I need it to be, is a ridiculous stance on the subject. We paid for a top of line product, it should match any other high quality wifi device. If its just a bunch of units and I can simply return this for another then I will be happy and will praise this device not be *****ing, but EVEN if switching to G makes it work flawless, its still unacceptable to live with. At work I cannot change the router. In public places you cant change the router. This device should work on any mode as well as my laptop, my phone etc etc.
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I don't know what is ridiculous about it. It works better than anything else I use. I'll take my experience a step further. Last week, I took my Prime and my laptop to an overnight stay in a hotel. My laptop kept having problems with the hotel's wifi. It had a signal just fine but I kept having to restart the computer over and over again to access the internet with the laptop. NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER WITH THE PRIME. I later discovered that my laptop had no issues with another hotel's wifi one block to the east of me so my laptop stayed hooked up to them while my Prime stayed hooked up to the local hotel's wifi without issue.
The next day, I had lunch at a restaurant a block west of my hotel where I brought my Prime. While there, I connected to the hotel that was now 2 blocks away on the Prime without issue and spent the lunch surfing the web and such. I didn't do any speed tests from that distance but it worked fine enough I wasn't thinking it was slow. I didn't hapve the laptop with me at the restaurant but my experience with the laptop I've had for 3 years tells me I wouldn't have even seen a signal with it from there.
The Prime's wifi works better than my other devices. If the Prime's wifi is crap, then all my other devices are crappier.
That said, I'll admit the GPS is disappointing and the microSD card sticking out too far is an issue too but I'm having a problem with all the complaints about wifi.
I used a Wifi Analyze to take a look...
My Prime:
Mt Samsung Galaxy S II:
Here is my Prime and Nexus S 4G results.
Serial starts with BCOKAS
If you're tired of threads like these, about GPS and the Prime, please leave. Nobody is forcing you to click and read. Stop. Go try to troll somewhere else.
For those who care, please keep going.
EDIT: I did more testing on page 9, adding a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 wifi only to the mix: link.
I'm pretty happy with most aspects of my prime, and can't wait to get the keyboard. Without the keyboard, IMHO, the Prime is definetely not worth having. GPS sucks and wi-fi is weak, the iPad 2 is better for games, so don't try. Android for me is like a swiss knive, it should work anywhere, everywhere for a variety of purposes. Not for entertainment, but for traffic, cop warning, and navigation too, Google maps/navigator with google earth like satellite maps look incredible in the car, and the voice control is just the icying in the cake (as you can see, I have GPS in my Toyota too, but it's not even close).
But now I'm going to talk about GPS. I just did the latest update, and I took it for a ride. Bottom line is, it is improved, a bit, but it is still weak. Weak as in weaker than any other GPS I have, tablet or phone (including the Blackberry Torch, for instance, how old is that?).
In the above I have some pictures comparing it to another very good tablet, the Samsung 8.9 LTE.
For what follow, I have both devices connected via wi-fi to my Samsung Skyrocket to download maps. Both were used where I've never been before with neither tablet, so no cache or saved sats, as far as I can tell.
One tablet, the Galaxy tab 8.9 LTE was placed where it always is, in a Proclip USA cradle. The Asus Prime was laying screen side up on top of the center console, and the sunroof inner cover was open. Overcast/raining day.
Here's some pictures: Both connected to my wi-fi hotspot, "Wissenschaft der Logik".
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Right after going 40mph after getting a fix (and stopping for pics):
But the Samsung is still going strong, no issues:
And as soon as the cars stops, the Asus reaquires satellites:
But it's very weak, no fix, and even when it gets a fix, the S/N ratio (and the precision) never is even close to the Samsung.
I had asked ProClip USA to produce a tablet holder for my car(s), but perhaps I should write back telling them it's not going to work for such purpose (or tourism, or train ride, or whatever else you'd like to use google maps for).
It's no scientific proof of anything, it's just a pictorial history of my findings. It's unfortunate that a high-end tablet lacks that feature.
To make matters worse, even when the GPS Test app reports a lock, it's frequently not enough for Google Earth to find the particular street I'm in. Just the general area is highlighted. Pretty poor, really. End of story.
If you have a different experience in the car, please post.
Thanks for the testing.
OT: What do you use to mount your Samsung tablet?
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Thanks for the testing.
OT: What do you use to mount your Samsung tablet?
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Sure.
Here is the link: ProclipUSA.com Galaxy Tab 8.9 mount.
you do know why the GPS is weak in Primes right?
in case not it's the aluminum condom they put on it to protect it from GPS signals....
Nice test, and it proves what we already knew: The Prime's GPS is weak.
So if you going to use it GPS/Navigation: return it, and buy another tablet. For everything else, it's the best android tablet by far.
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Nice test, and it proves what we already knew: The Prime's GPS is weak.
So if you going to use it GPS/Navigation: return it, and buy another tablet. For everything else, it's the best android tablet by far.
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Well judging by his post he doesnt seem to be too fond of it.
Why don't you use your car's own navigation system?
I can understand the complaints against GPS, but if it was me, and i was reliant on the GPS for work etc, i would simply just buy a GPS bluetooth reciever to use with it. Way i see it is the prime is worth the money without GPS chip. I'd prefer it working 100% but its not device critical especially when bluetooth GPS devices are cheap enough.
Think of it like the usual crappy headphones they package with things .. everyone always buys better quality ones to replace them ?
There are always those saying, why don't you just use the car's GPS, or who would use it for navigation anyway? Apparently some people don't get out much. There are other forms of transportation and other outdoor uses which make GPS very desirable for some of us.
Using your rationalization, one could say why do you need a tablet? Why not just use a loptop? It's faster and does things that your tablet can't do.
The prime is a nice device, but it does have it's flaws whether you admit to yourselves or not. When and if Asus get's it completed, I may buy another.
Ehh
I get the same numbers that you were for accuracy, as in it floats between 100 and 60 feet but then I used it for navigation and it worked fine. So Im not sure if its just a reporting error.
I tested it with Run Keeper the other day and besides one small drop in the beginning It was spot on. I'll Try and upload pics to this post later Im at work now.
Mined you this was all before the update. So I'll give it a retest on the way home today and see if it improved. I will admit I did have it sitting on top of the dash so the antenna was facing directly skyward unlike your facing the driver setup.
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There are always those saying, why don't you just use the car's GPS, or who would use it for navigation anyway? Apparently some people don't get out much. There are other forms of transportation and other outdoor uses which make GPS very desirable for some of us.
Using your rationalization, one could say why do you need a tablet? Why not just use a loptop? It's faster and does things that your tablet can't do.
The prime is a nice device, but it does have it's flaws whether you admit to yourselves or not. When and if Asus get's it completed, I may buy another.
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non-sense, it doesn't make any sense to try to use a tablet over a device that's designed specifically for the purpose that you're trying to accomplish. Now I can understand those who don't have GPS navigation in their cars being disappointed but it makes no sense to me of what I see the OP doing. Just my two cents.
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non-sense, it doesn't make any sense to try to use a tablet over a device that's designed specifically for the purpose that you're trying to accomplish. Now I can understand those who don't have GPS navigation in their cars being disappointed but it makes no sense to me of what I see the OP doing. Just my two cents.
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Agreed. And how many people own a tablet but not a smart phone?
People need to get over this gps thing.
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non-sense, it doesn't make any sense to try to use a tablet over a device that's designed specifically for the purpose that you're trying to accomplish. Now I can understand those who don't have GPS navigation in their cars being disappointed but it makes no sense to me of what I see the OP doing. Just my two cents.
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I could also say non-sense, it doesn't make any sense to build a feature in a device and decide it is OK for it not to perform as it should, and does in other tablets, just because you can use another device for that purpose. Any way you sugar coat it, and try to make it OK, it is a defect. Your attempts to justify this are just rationalization.
It is apparent we have different concepts of what is acceptable. Rather than continue this argument of opinions, we must just agree to disagree.
Good luck.
Problem solved:
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This whole thing is pretty funny. You've got an LTE tablet and a WIFI tablet. The WIFI tablet is admittedly pulling data from a second device (a phone) and you are trying to use GPS out of the device with lesser connectivity.
The point is when you are out and about, the Prime cannot be used as a standalone device, it has to tether through something. I could see more of an argument if the Sammy's GPS was crap, I mean by giving it LTE it should work anywhere it can get a data signal. The Prime can't, you've got to use another device, which will have it's own GPS to even get the thing going in the first place.
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The point is when you are out and about, the Prime cannot be used as a standalone device, it has to tether through something. I could see more of an argument if the Sammy's GPS was crap, I mean by giving it LTE it should work anywhere it can get a data signal. The Prime can't, you've got to use another device, which will have it's own GPS to even get the thing going in the first place.
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You seem to be confused about what AGPS does. The wifi is only used to help the GPS get the initial fix faster, after that it should run as a standalone GPS just fine without WIFI. (if it worked correctly)
With that said I think we all already know that the GPS is mostly rubbish on this device. No amount of firmware updates or software tweaks can overcome a bad hardware design, that even ASUS has admitted already. This is basic physics and nobody can write software that fixes this issue. I personally don't believe we need anymore posts on the topic regardless of how well intentioned they might be.
There are three things that are used by GPS:
GPS itself, it detects satellites and calculates its location based on those satellites. It finds satellites and gets location data from those satellites which it then uses to figure out its own location (GPS device is not told by GPS satellites where it is, GPS satellites simply tell where they are). Differently from typical networks that calculate position by triangulation with three cell towers, GPS requires locks on four satellites. This is because GPS also takes altitude into consideration.
AGPS is used to update the database (sort of cache) of GPS satellites. The more up to date this data is, the quicker it can find locks. When GPS signals are weak then this 'assisted' data can be used to figure out incorrect data from correct one. AGPS does not require 3G, it just requires internet. It can improve the amount of time it takes to lock onto GPS satellites signal. It is also possible that AGPS calculates its position from cell towers based on signal strength (this is not called actually AGPS, but is often labeled as one, it is actually Cell-Site Triangulation), this causes possibly inaccurate position (the wide wide circle you see on Google Maps for your position sometimes)
WiFi is used to a) update the AGPS database and b) get information from Google about the approximate location of the device (this is called Wi-Fi Positioning System). Google knows locations of certain WiFi networks, so when you are connected to specific WiFi device, it can lock your position down much quicker since it looks up the location of the WiFi device.
So it is a three-layered process. If your WiFi network is known by Google then you will get WiFi lock much quicker. The widest circle is usually AGPS with just cell-tower information, smaller circle is usually achieved by just WiFi positioning and smallest circle when you actually have a GPS lock.
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This whole thing is pretty funny. You've got an LTE tablet and a WIFI tablet. The WIFI tablet is admittedly pulling data from a second device (a phone) and you are trying to use GPS out of the device with lesser connectivity.
The point is when you are out and about, the Prime cannot be used as a standalone device, it has to tether through something. I could see more of an argument if the Sammy's GPS was crap, I mean by giving it LTE it should work anywhere it can get a data signal. The Prime can't, you've got to use another device, which will have it's own GPS to even get the thing going in the first place.
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GPS = global positining system. Works anywhere on the globe (that's planet earth, if you don't know).
No GPS requires internet, internet connection helps you acquire faster. You do realize there are offline maps which can be used without internet connection right?
The point is...it doesn't matter how people use their tablet. It has a gps, I should be able to use it anyway I want to use it.
People who have no need for GPS good for you, but how the hell are you going to tell other people that they don't need it. You don't know that.
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good question....
nice comparison though
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GPS = global positining system. Works anywhere on the globe (that's planet earth, if you don't know).
No GPS requires internet, internet connection helps you acquire faster. You do realize there are offline maps which can be used without internet connection right?
The point is...it doesn't matter how people use their tablet. It has a gps, I should be able to use it anyway I want to use it.
People who have no need for GPS good for you, but how the hell are you going to tell other people that they don't need it. You don't know that.
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I really don't get the attitude of some of these sheeple. They can't envision someone using something in a manner they themselves do not. I went through this same idiocy with the Vibrant launch and its GPS issues. Morons would say "Well it works as a phone, you bought a phone, right?" Yeah, for $500 (before subsidy).
WTH is the matter with these people? Do they like big business ****ting all over them?
I bought my tf201 mostly for work. now that I found out that ICS has abandoned ums, I have a problem. There is no way for me to easily transfer documents to my office computer as I am not allowed to install drivers.
simplest solution: use my ms2 as mass storage over usb. i was always able to connect my ms2 to my office computer with ease.
however it does not work with the transformer. it sees flashdrives and external disks no problem, the ms2 it fails to connect to. wtf?
I have usb debugging turned off btw.
any ideas?
Can you install a service like Dropbox?
If not, can you access the Dropbox website from your work computer?
I find Dropbox to be the easiest way to send files back and forth from my PC to my phone and tablet, especially since I don't necessarily have to have my phone or tablet with me in order to make sure I can get the files on there.
Alternatively, if your work PC has a SD Card slot you can pop the MicroSD out of the Transformer and put it into an adapter in the side of the computer. Not the most convenient work flow, but not a whole lot worse than physically plugging a device into a USB slow in order to use it as mass storage either.
no dropbox allowed on my work computer and also not on the transformer prime as there is no wifi at work.
also it does not have an sd card reader. wouldn't be a problem since I can bring my own but that is not really a solution to my problem at all.
see, i did buy a flash drive to get around popping out the micro sd from the transformer etc. biggest problem is exchanging files between my phone and the tf201 as I do not want to open my battery compartment and rip everything out of my phone all the time to get a freaking word doc onto my transformer.
If you have WiFi, you can try with Sama File Shering.
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If you have WiFi, you can try with Sama File Shering.
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Did you read my post? no wifi!
please guys, i appreciate people trying to help, but noone seems to have anything to contribute towards a solution to my actual problem...
I will restate my question: usb sticks, external hdds etc work with my prime.
why the hell doesn't my milestone 2 work then? it's the same protocol to my understanding: ums.
i know that the prime can't be connected over ums since the bump to ics, but it should still work the other way round with my milestone 2.
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no dropbox allowed on my work computer and also not on the transformer prime as there is no wifi at work.
also it does not have an sd card reader. wouldn't be a problem since I can bring my own but that is not really a solution to my problem at all.
see, i did buy a flash drive to get around popping out the micro sd from the transformer etc. biggest problem is exchanging files between my phone and the tf201 as I do not want to open my battery compartment and rip everything out of my phone all the time to get a freaking word doc onto my transformer.
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If yoru computer has USB - could you use a USB/SD Card adapter and put the microSD in a SD Adapter? it would only run a few bucks
blue tooth transfer....
now that is a great idea. i don't know why i didn't think of that, i never used blue tooth a lot before. thanks, i'll check it out.
thinking about the earlier post aswell. maybe it is possible to connect the transformer over wifi adhoc by making the ms2 an access point. i got cm7 running on it. so samba sharing might be possible after all and i just didn't get the hint.
I just got around to connecting my ICS Transformer Prime to my Windows PC via the USB cable.. and it worked perfectly well as a USB Mass Storage device.
I was able to access practically any file on the Internal storage as well as the MicroSD card. I can copy files to and from my Windows PC with no problems whatsoever.
When I plugged the USB cable from the Prime into my PC, the Prime connected as a "Portable Media Player" and in the USB setting on the Prime, under Storage the connection type is specificed as "Media Device (MTP)."
ICS never abandoned UMS, it just doesn't work on the Galaxy Nexus (the premier ICS device) because the Galaxy Nexus lacks a microSD slot and has an unpartitioned internal storage space. The Transformer Prime has both an microSD slot and a partitioned internal drive so UMS works perfectly well.
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yes, thank you for that little picture you drew up there. here is the thing. my office computer is an old windows xp computer which does not support mtp. my linux system at home does not support mtp out of the box which is annoying but not a problem.
now once again, i am looking for an uncomplicated way to get my files off my tablet and onto my phone/work computer without having to install drivers, software etc. i have a very demanding job where i need to stay mobile and if i need to print something somewhere on the go i can go into peoples offices and tell them to install that ****ty mtp protocol first or some asus driver before i can print.
i am not an idiot. so please do not treat me like one for asking a relevant question. ums has been abandoned in ics, it is not the same thing as mtp. maybe you should read up on it before you make an effort to post ridiculous tutorial pictures.
anyway, i have given up on this piece of **** hardware. Going to buy a decent laptop instead of this, if i wanted a portable toy with great battery life, i would bought a nintendo DS...
NOOBS - For those that don't know the difference between ALLSHARE and ALLSHARE CAST please read before replying, thanks.
ALLSHARE - this simply streams bits to your smart TV or compatible wifi media player and plays the actual file on that device, it doesn't do any hardware / software decoding on the phone. This can be a problem is your smart TV or player has limited codec support for instance.
ALLSHARE CAST - this is a different beast altogether and one of the reasons I bought this phone. ALLSHARE cast is basically a mirroring system from your Phone to your TV, essentialyl a wifi HDMI cable as it were. With this option you shoud be able to mirror your phone wirelessly for games and movies and the like on a compatible smart TV with a wifi connection.
The problem is... I cant get it to work. I have tried stock ICS and Jelly ROMS, both with the ALLSHARE CAST option and neither picks up my TV, i definately have a compatible TV (Samsung UE40D8000) so wassp?
update: 27.9.2012 - re conversation on facebook - looks like sammy are backtracking on ALLSHARE CAST as they couldnt get it to work.
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UPDATE: 25.9.2012 - after exhaustive hammering at Samsung from various channels there is still no answer on this - here is an update on what is currently known / assumed:
1. Allshare cast is currently only working with the ALLSHARE CAST dongle it will not work with any TV's direct, regardless of model.
2. It is still not clear which TV's are going to work if it does eventually work at all, it was suggested by an OP at Samsung support that it will be only the high end models, although whether this means all those that have WIFI built in or just some of them.
3. The Allshare Cast info on the Samsung Website seems to have changed to me, it previously suggested it would work on all WIFI/DLNA enabled TV's regardless of model.
4. Samsung and other companies are still working on a universal mirroring system which will be an agreed variant of "mirrorcast", Samsungs version of Allshare cast appears to be an early version of this and may in fact not work very well - the lag on the dongle version seems to back this up.
So, if you want to use Allshare cast at the moment you will need a dongle and the dongle has quite a bit of lag which for me rules out gaming. Please also note this information is a best conjecture on my part and so I cannot corroborate any of it, choose to believe it or not, I am happy to make changes to this if people have any more up to date information.
Still waiting for mine, supplier said the dongle will arrive end of August...Will report back how it works out. For know only using wired HDMI adapter.
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chrismast said:
Still waiting for mine, supplier said the dongle will arrive end of August...Will report back how it works out. For know only using wired HDMI adapter.
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cheers but its not the dongle I am concerned with, its the direct phone to TV connection I am trying to get working, compatible smart tv's wont need a dongle.
just spoke to Samsung they tell me that the firmware updated hasnt yet been released on all sammy TV's which is why it doesnt work, it is only currently working on the new ES models. They do advise that its not a fault, they are just waiting for the update to come live.
Is the WiFi connection really needed to get this working? I have a U46D6200 without WiFi, but it's connected to my LAN over Ethernet. Of course I have also a WiFi router in the same network so the phone is able to contact the TV using WiFi.
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Is the WiFi connection really needed to get this working? I have a U46D6200 without WiFi, but it's connected to my LAN over Ethernet. Of course I have also a WiFi router in the same network so the phone is able to contact the TV using WiFi.
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I believe the tv acts as the dongle, therefore you need to have the right model of smart TV with the correct firmware onboard, as far as I know only the new ES models and the older more expensive models have this capability (D7000 and D8000 series), I dont think the 6 series is compatible so you would need the allshare cast dongle - to be safe give samsung a quick call, nice, helpful people I found and wasnt waiting too long and the phone either.
My next TV will be an ES series I should imagine so that's handy.
Un46es7000
da.trute said:
just spoke to Samsung they tell me that the firmware updated hasnt yet been released on all sammy TV's which is why it doesnt work, it is only currently working on the new ES models. They do advise that its not a fault, they are just waiting for the update to come live.
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Hi,
I have the new UN46ES7000 model and allshare cast is not working for me, my tv is not found in allshare cast option. Allshare play, control, wifi-direct and DLNA works perfectly. My TV currently is using 001013 firmware.
Maybe the 2012 models also need a firmware update to work with allshare cast.
[edit] I have a 5 series smart tv [edit]
I have the 6 series smart tv. I cant wait to use allshare cast and I cant figure out how to use allshare at all!
I am not going to buy the dongle as I dont think that I should pay for a smart tv with this functionality and then get told to buy another dongle! I might as well have bought a cheap tv
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I have a smart tv ES series and just updated it to software 001012 . I am still not able to connect my tv to allshare cast ( s3 unable to find) anyone else updated to 001012?
akhil_pruthi said:
I have a smart tv ES series and just updated it to software 001012 . I am still not able to connect my tv to allshare cast ( s3 unable to find) anyone else updated to 001012?
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I cant be sure the ES 5 and 6 series are going to work, you will need to check with samsung. You should also check for a USB firmware update on the sammy website as the support section on your TV only checks for OTA firmware updates, mine had two to collect.
check you TV compatibility first, then Update your TV, flash back to stock ROM and if still not working i'd log a fault with Sammy in their support section. I cant log one yet as i have the UE40D8000 which is awaiting the official firmware update.
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I cant be sure the ES 5 and 6 series are going to work, you will need to check with samsung. You should also check for a USB firmware update on the sammy website as the support section on your TV only checks for OTA firmware updates, mine had two to collect.
check you TV compatibility first, then Update your TV, flash back to stock ROM and if still not working i'd log a fault with Sammy in their support section. I cant log one yet as i have the UE40D8000 which is awaiting the official firmware update.
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What does flash back to stock ROM mean? Im sorry i have no idea about all this . New to android and samsung . Also , i have to check the usn update on the website from my tv or what?
xda is primarily for people who want to develop existing ROMS and provide a better experience for users, if you dont know what flashing a ROM means you really need to do some reading before you go any further. Its ok to use XDA for info and reference but you should try to contribute a little as well where you can.
akhil_pruthi said:
What does flash back to stock ROM mean? Im sorry i have no idea about all this . New to android and samsung . Also , i have to check the usn update on the website from my tv or what?
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He means by flashing a stock ROM is to restore your phone to the ROM it originaly came with, i.e including carrier branding! If you dont know about swapping ROM's you shouldnt need to flash your phone back to a stock ROM
there isnt any need to be rude!!! I learned how to root/mod my phones through XDA!!! I am just a fast learner though so it didnt take me as long as it will with others!!!
I hope this helps
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He means by flashing a stock ROM is to restore your phone to the ROM it originaly came with, i.e including carrier branding! If you dont know about swapping ROM's you shouldnt need to flash your phone back to a stock ROM
there isnt any need to be rude!!! I learned how to root/mod my phones through XDA!!! I am just a fast learner though so it didnt take me as long as it will with others!!!
I hope this helps
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Rude, who was being rude?, my reply was accurate and concise, nothing more. If this is what you think passes for rudeness these days I think you should probably try to get out more fella
Finally some useful news
This thing was driving me mad
I got a d7000 so I hope the update will be released soon
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Rude, who was being rude?, my reply was accurate and concise, nothing more. If this is what you think passes for rudeness these days I think you should probably try to get out more fella
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damn dude come off that mountain and stop preaching the people you hardly know assuming there way less then you lol
that is called narcism btw
on-topic.. i have a es8000 1018 firmware latest model 2012 and a s3 latest 32gb model with latest 4.04 firmware on them and this allshare cast dont work , it finds no device. allshare control and play versions do work. smartview 3.20 gives subscribtion tv to my s3 phone (really briljant this option). the thing is i found this program called playto samsung tv on my s3 which can play a lot of social media stuff (youtube vimeo metacafe and much more) to the tv from the phone. weird thing is when it actually wants to play a video on the tv which the tv doesnt support u get this quick preview of the android desktop on the tv. this makes me think it works allready, only thing is to find out how
it would need a wifi-direct connection to the tv and the tv should show up as a device on the phonescreen. alas it does not. so the thing is not ready yet allthough this playto samsung tv prog shows me different.
da_jojo said:
damn dude come off that mountain and stop preaching the people you hardly know assuming there way less then you lol
that is called narcism btw
on-topic.. i have a es8000 1018 firmware latest model 2012 and a s3 latest 32gb model with latest 4.04 firmware on them and this allshare cast dont work , it finds no device. allshare control and play versions do work. smartview 3.20 gives subscribtion tv to my s3 phone (really briljant this option). the thing is i found this program called playto samsung tv on my s3 which can play a lot of social media stuff (youtube vimeo metacafe and much more) to the tv from the phone. weird thing is when it actually wants to play a video on the tv which the tv doesnt support u get this quick preview of the android desktop on the tv. this makes me think it works allready, only thing is to find out how
it would need a wifi-direct connection to the tv and the tv should show up as a device on the phonescreen. alas it does not. so the thing is not ready yet allthough this playto samsung tv prog shows me different.
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I still think you need to check your definition of rude, the guy seemed to be a total noob, I was just providing some info about how this place works.
back on topic - I have had a similar experience with mine, pretty much given up on it now though as it seems clear this isn't going to work, I doubt it will ever work even though it was promised by Samsung and is still promised as "coming soon" on their website. It wouldn't surprise me if it comes out working on the SGS4 off the bat and they rename it "mirror cast" as this is actually what it is. I did a bit of research on this the other day, I think Samsung have bolted out of the door on this one too early, I don't think it is stable for them which is why they haven't released it. Obviously they aren't going to admit that though.
i wanna buy a 32 inch smart tv with wifi, i need some suggestions, i actually want to use both all share functions as written in op, tell me which model should i buy, my budget is not too high, thanks
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sohebq said:
i wanna buy a 32 inch smart tv with wifi, i need some suggestions, i actually want to use both all share functions as written in op, tell me which model should i buy, my budget is not too high, thanks
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Samsung 5600 es series ( the newest one ) is a good option . But you need the wifi dongle with that , although mine was free. ( with the 40 inch ) it has allshare features.
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