Ok, so I hear many people saying my wifi works fine, you other guys must have bad wifi cards... Enough of the yea it works fine bs, solid numbers please. Lots of people believe that every prime has bad signal strengths.
Here is my screenshot and testing, lets get some hard numbers from a large number of tablets and then make asus do something about it.
I took my macbook pro, my htc evo 3d and my prime all around my house and ran speedtest.net from each all using the same server and all on the wifi connection moments apart from each other. My router is set to broadcast N only and it on auto channel.
I attached the image my first test, all within 2 meters of my router. Macbook 22.91 mbps, EVO 3d 15.59 and Prime 14.39. this is good. if i got this everywhere id be happy. Its the next test that pisses me off. At about 5 meters and behind one closed door my evo3d gets 7-9 mbps where my prime gets 2-3. at 10 meters and behind 2 closed doors like my bedroom.. my evo gets 6-7 and my prime gets 0.2-0.8 thats 20-80k a second.. not acceptable.. I have run multiple tests always similar results. I will try to get more pics up soon.
Please guys grab the speedtest.net app for your prime and your phone and do these tests and different distances from your router. Lets CONFIRM every prime has this interfernce issue aka the case and make Asus swap the cases or install an rf window at a service cost. I am about to return it and wait for tf700 series.
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just added new pics of testing. 2 meters from router, bout 7 meters in my room(1 door), and 12 meters in my bathroom (2 doors)
as you can see the prime drops off FAST. I always did 3 or 4 tests on each device to rule out bad samples. In the last one you can see the prime got under 2.4mbps for 4 tests.. I KNOW THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN BEAT TO DEATH. but i want to make sure people who think their unit is not flawed actually test. not say ya im connected it loads fast
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I noticed same thing. Also i lose connection often.
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holy **** another "wifi sucks" thread. return the thing and go away! good riddance.
Every Prime doesn't have wifi issue. what's so hard to understand about that? lol mines worked great since 12/22. compared and tested signal range, strength, and download speeds compared to my Ipad and my Atrix 4g. Prime is on par with Ipad n atrix as far as range n signal strength goes. My Prime gets way faster download n upload speeds than other 2. there have already been several polls showing most prime owners here wifi is fine. Stop feeding into the negative hype..lmao
plus hour problem is you have it set to N only. N range has 2 frequencies. 5ghz n another one. prime doesn't support 5 ghz. only other one.
maybe you need to read this article n you will see your issue
www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-basics/30664-5-ways-to-fix-slow-80211n-speed
ill post my speeds in a moment.....OK first test within 2 meters. great speed as i usually pull even faster than this.
2nd test....same spot..even faster
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dilfatx said:
I noticed same thing. Also i lose connection often.
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I didn't mean to thank you. meant to thank other guy saying holy sh.. another wifi sux thread..lol
gundal said:
Ok, so I hear many people saying my wifi works fine, you other guys must have bad wifi cards... Enough of the yea it works fine bs, solid numbers please. Lots of people believe that every prime has bad signal strengths.
Here is my screenshot and testing, lets get some hard numbers from a large number of tablets and then make asus do something about it.
I took my macbook pro, my htc evo 3d and my prime all around my house and ran speedtest.net from each all using the same server and all on the wifi connection moments apart from each other. My router is set to broadcast N only and it on auto channel.
I attached the image my first test, all within 2 meters of my router. Macbook 22.91 mbps, EVO 3d 15.59 and Prime 14.39. this is good. if i got this everywhere id be happy. Its the next test that pisses me off. At about 5 meters and behind one closed door my evo3d gets 7-9 mbps where my prime gets 2-3. at 10 meters and behind 2 closed doors like my bedroom.. my evo gets 6-7 and my prime gets 0.2-0.8 thats 20-80k a second.. not acceptable.. I have run multiple tests always similar results. I will try to get more pics up soon.
Please guys grab the speedtest.net app for your prime and your phone and do these tests and different distances from your router. Lets CONFIRM every prime has this interfernce issue aka the case and make Asus swap the cases or install an rf window at a service cost. I am about to return it and wait for tf700 series.
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I'm just wondering why you didn't show where your prime sucks at 2-3 instead 14?
To make your case, show it the worst possible..
I have read many of these "bad wifi" threads.. ive never seen hard numbers and screenshots .. if I just have to return my prime for another ill be very happy. I just havent seen anyone who says ya my wifi works good show proof. they say it works fine.. wifi has a huge range of speeds... fine isnt an adequate description. I am now gonna read the thread you linked me. But as you said with the n and 5ghz it worked even worse on abgn mixed mode. and i did the testing yesterday i didnt take pics of that but like i said i will now.
Actual tests with number? I haven't done that. I did walk around and look at where I had a signal and where I didn't. The prime is better than any other wifi device I have in as far as getting a signal. My wife's notebook might be better but I didn't compare with it since I don't use it but I do remember being impressed with her notebook when I set it up for her.
As far as speed goes, I was able to stream an HD video over wifi local network without issue. Can't imagine needing it to be faster than that.
If I got bad wifi, then normal wifi is better than I need it to be.
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I have read many of these "bad wifi" threads.. ive never seen hard numbers and screenshots .. if I just have to return my prime for another ill be very happy. I just havent seen anyone who says ya my wifi works good show proof. they say it works fine.. wifi has a huge range of speeds... fine isnt an adequate description. I am now gonna read the thread you linked me. But as you said with the n and 5ghz it worked even worse on abgn mixed mode. and i did the testing yesterday i didnt take pics of that but like i said i will now.
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I see what you saying. I heard Prime doesn't do to well on mixed modes also not sure. Try G only.
As far as my netgear router, I'm not even sure what its on. it is 2.5ghz and I'm on a clear channel. In an apt. building where others have their wireless going also so glad I'm on a channel others aren't using. Used wifi analyzer to determine that info. Don't have a PC hooked up to network. I have Comcast high speed wireless. I have seen others post same results as you then changed to G and produced way better results. night n day difference, from what they said. Speeds do dropoff as distance and barriers are increased no matter what mode you on. As seen in the article linked, N mode is not the best for range anyways.
As I've posted on other threads, after writing a couple of emails, Asus called me and said that there are some bad WiFi-BT chips in the first batch of Primes shipped. They asked to RMA mine so they could hopefully fix it.
Next to my Wifi sources, the Prime would get near full speed (11 Mbps). However, in family room, 20 or 25 feet away, Prime would get about 10% - 30% of that number. Three other devices in the family room all get near full speed.
Here are my results. I am in the basement, id say about 15-20 feet from router. I guess threw the ceiling...lol
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Actual tests with number? I haven't done that. I did walk around and look at where I had a signal and where I didn't. The prime is better than any other wifi device I have in as far as getting a signal. My wife's notebook might be better but I didn't compare with it since I don't use it but I do remember being impressed with her notebook when I set it up for her.
As far as speed goes, I was able to stream an HD video over wifi local network without issue. Can't imagine needing it to be faster than that.
If I got bad wifi, then normal wifi is better than I need it to be.
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Sorry that really isnt any useful information for me. I can stream movies too but when I walk into my room it starts to chop. For you to say if I have bad wifi normal is better then I need it to be, is a ridiculous stance on the subject. We paid for a top of line product, it should match any other high quality wifi device. If its just a bunch of units and I can simply return this for another then I will be happy and will praise this device not be *****ing, but EVEN if switching to G makes it work flawless, its still unacceptable to live with. At work I cannot change the router. In public places you cant change the router. This device should work on any mode as well as my laptop, my phone etc etc.
I did read the thread about the wifi analyzer, and going over my results. I changed to a lower Hz, and changed the channel. I really have no idea what I was doing. I followed the advice of some other posters, and did a couple searches on my router, and it seemed to work. Id say my average is about 25mbs.
For me pages seem to load really fast, BUT a lot of times the page stops loading about 80% of the way thru and I get a pop up saying the BROWSER IS NOT RESPONDING....WAIT/OK. Now that crap drives me crazy.
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I'm getting conflicting results testing the Wi-fi.
Today during the day I went around the house with my laptop, my cell and my Prime testing with speedtest.net and Wi-fi analyzer and the Prime was very consistent on all test.
...but tonight my Prime is getting 1/3 of the speed my laptop is getting. I don't get it.
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Hi,
I think what you are seeing is normal. That's when flash content, often ads, starts to load, and the browser doesn't always resond well when that happens, unfortunately.
Um... if you're using "Speedtest" to test TFP wifi bandwidth and compare with other users' TFP wifi bandwidth, there are serious flaws with this testing methodology.
I ran a battery of tests exactly as you specified. In a separate thread. I tested wifi against tf101, ipad 1, laptop, and nexus prime at various ranges, channels, with and without BT. Prime was as good or better than the ipad in most tests and nearly as good as the laptop. The tf101 was stellar though. Search this forum for 'wifi shootout' and see for yourself.
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I think what many are trying to say and I will echo, is that one more thread for an issue that has been beat to death already is old (I know lol, I am reading the thread and responding), use the existing threads and look at the work that has already been done. I returned mine for dropping wifi based on the work others had done and comparing my results. I may buy another one when ASUS says the problem is resolved and once people are seeing similar results to other devices in their home consitently. There are enough RMA's in the pipeline too that we should get good feedback when they are returned.
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Sorry that really isnt any useful information for me. I can stream movies too but when I walk into my room it starts to chop. For you to say if I have bad wifi normal is better then I need it to be, is a ridiculous stance on the subject. We paid for a top of line product, it should match any other high quality wifi device. If its just a bunch of units and I can simply return this for another then I will be happy and will praise this device not be *****ing, but EVEN if switching to G makes it work flawless, its still unacceptable to live with. At work I cannot change the router. In public places you cant change the router. This device should work on any mode as well as my laptop, my phone etc etc.
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I don't know what is ridiculous about it. It works better than anything else I use. I'll take my experience a step further. Last week, I took my Prime and my laptop to an overnight stay in a hotel. My laptop kept having problems with the hotel's wifi. It had a signal just fine but I kept having to restart the computer over and over again to access the internet with the laptop. NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER WITH THE PRIME. I later discovered that my laptop had no issues with another hotel's wifi one block to the east of me so my laptop stayed hooked up to them while my Prime stayed hooked up to the local hotel's wifi without issue.
The next day, I had lunch at a restaurant a block west of my hotel where I brought my Prime. While there, I connected to the hotel that was now 2 blocks away on the Prime without issue and spent the lunch surfing the web and such. I didn't do any speed tests from that distance but it worked fine enough I wasn't thinking it was slow. I didn't hapve the laptop with me at the restaurant but my experience with the laptop I've had for 3 years tells me I wouldn't have even seen a signal with it from there.
The Prime's wifi works better than my other devices. If the Prime's wifi is crap, then all my other devices are crappier.
That said, I'll admit the GPS is disappointing and the microSD card sticking out too far is an issue too but I'm having a problem with all the complaints about wifi.
I used a Wifi Analyze to take a look...
My Prime:
Mt Samsung Galaxy S II:
Here is my Prime and Nexus S 4G results.
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Does anyone else have a issue with their S Tab, only getting weak wifi signal, even from a wireless router your are right next to?
I have a wireless router in my living room, and everything else i have to include my other tab and laptop get full bars for the wifi, but my S Tab only gets about 3 to 4 out of 5.
Just curious as to if this is just a flaw in the Tab, or maybe mine has an issue i should have looked at for repair, or replacement.
i get a full signal on the home wifi and using my mobile as a hotspot, not sure why yours is getting a weak signal.
Im not sure either, it still works fine, seems to run the browser, downloads/updates fast still, maybe the little icon at the bottom by the clock is inaccurate.
I feel it is better than on my SE XPlay
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I have had a bit of the same issue. When I first got it it seemed that it picked up my home Wifi last above all the others around me.
Once it did finally find it it only showed a weak singal, after I put in my password it jumped up to full strength. this has happened to every location I went to. Once i do connect it works great (on a side note people have complained that my wireless internet sucks at my home when they tried to connect with there laptops)
I seem to have a similar issue. Works fairly fast but looks like I only have 2 bars.
Yeah I have noticed this and using wifi manager the signal goes up and down but seems fine on my arc....
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I don't have an issue with the signal but it takes forever for it to connect to my AP. It's taking at least 30 seconds to make a connection.
bimbot said:
I don't have an issue with the signal but it takes forever for it to connect to my AP. It's taking at least 30 seconds to make a connection.
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Yes, I have noticed this when I unlock the device as well.
sony tablet s wifi issue
Hi all,
after weeks of study here is what i found out:
- wifi issue is not a hard ware issue, it is simply the software.
- wifi issue occurs only with certain routers with both N & G channels , Especially Netgear and BT.
- Wifi manger app makes it better and less annoying, issue still there but less occurring. try different channels.
- Tablet S for some reason does not like the channels used by certain Routers.
- do not bother with wifi lock app, does not do the job and steals ur battery.
- after weeks of trial, tablet is just great, but needs attention from Google.
SO
My friend's wife works for Google, when asked for the favor of the insider , engineers in Google said, first stage is to roll out Xperia release 5 to try and fix problem, then both S and Xperia will get Jelly bean with a definite fix. Testing as we speak.
all I can do now is get a good router and hope for the best.
I too have a problem with my new-ish Sony Tablet S (which I wish I never went to 4.0.3 r5). Sitting anywhere in my house I get 4 or 5 bars - I have a great DLINK Router and a repeater in the other end of the house. Both on the same channel family and get full blast wireless all over the house.
My problem is (the router is locked into N only mode as everything in the house is N) - even with 5 bars, the NETWORK information from the tablet's info panel says I am at 65MB/s. Why so slow? My older than the tablet laptop with built in WiFi get 150MB/s, and the router is capable of 300MB/s (dual channel router).
Can anyone explain this?
Also if anyone can direct me to the steps and files to get my tablet back to the 4.0.3 (pre R5 version), I would be ever so happy. I hate all the new additions - none of them good that R gave. My biggest gripe is the removal of the DLNA app that worked great with my MEDIA Server (windows) and streamed my .M4V ripped DVD collection, that my HTPC also uses, flawlessly. The WALKMAN and MOVIES app in the R5 software - for use of a better word - S U X !!!
I already called SONY to find out how to REVERT and of course got the answer, YOU CAN'T. You would think that with over $20,000 worth of SONY equipment purchased in the last 8 years they would help.
Thanks,
bearhntr
If you're tired of threads like these, about GPS and the Prime, please leave. Nobody is forcing you to click and read. Stop. Go try to troll somewhere else.
For those who care, please keep going.
EDIT: I did more testing on page 9, adding a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 wifi only to the mix: link.
I'm pretty happy with most aspects of my prime, and can't wait to get the keyboard. Without the keyboard, IMHO, the Prime is definetely not worth having. GPS sucks and wi-fi is weak, the iPad 2 is better for games, so don't try. Android for me is like a swiss knive, it should work anywhere, everywhere for a variety of purposes. Not for entertainment, but for traffic, cop warning, and navigation too, Google maps/navigator with google earth like satellite maps look incredible in the car, and the voice control is just the icying in the cake (as you can see, I have GPS in my Toyota too, but it's not even close).
But now I'm going to talk about GPS. I just did the latest update, and I took it for a ride. Bottom line is, it is improved, a bit, but it is still weak. Weak as in weaker than any other GPS I have, tablet or phone (including the Blackberry Torch, for instance, how old is that?).
In the above I have some pictures comparing it to another very good tablet, the Samsung 8.9 LTE.
For what follow, I have both devices connected via wi-fi to my Samsung Skyrocket to download maps. Both were used where I've never been before with neither tablet, so no cache or saved sats, as far as I can tell.
One tablet, the Galaxy tab 8.9 LTE was placed where it always is, in a Proclip USA cradle. The Asus Prime was laying screen side up on top of the center console, and the sunroof inner cover was open. Overcast/raining day.
Here's some pictures: Both connected to my wi-fi hotspot, "Wissenschaft der Logik".
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Right after going 40mph after getting a fix (and stopping for pics):
But the Samsung is still going strong, no issues:
And as soon as the cars stops, the Asus reaquires satellites:
But it's very weak, no fix, and even when it gets a fix, the S/N ratio (and the precision) never is even close to the Samsung.
I had asked ProClip USA to produce a tablet holder for my car(s), but perhaps I should write back telling them it's not going to work for such purpose (or tourism, or train ride, or whatever else you'd like to use google maps for).
It's no scientific proof of anything, it's just a pictorial history of my findings. It's unfortunate that a high-end tablet lacks that feature.
To make matters worse, even when the GPS Test app reports a lock, it's frequently not enough for Google Earth to find the particular street I'm in. Just the general area is highlighted. Pretty poor, really. End of story.
If you have a different experience in the car, please post.
Thanks for the testing.
OT: What do you use to mount your Samsung tablet?
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Thanks for the testing.
OT: What do you use to mount your Samsung tablet?
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Sure.
Here is the link: ProclipUSA.com Galaxy Tab 8.9 mount.
you do know why the GPS is weak in Primes right?
in case not it's the aluminum condom they put on it to protect it from GPS signals....
Nice test, and it proves what we already knew: The Prime's GPS is weak.
So if you going to use it GPS/Navigation: return it, and buy another tablet. For everything else, it's the best android tablet by far.
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Nice test, and it proves what we already knew: The Prime's GPS is weak.
So if you going to use it GPS/Navigation: return it, and buy another tablet. For everything else, it's the best android tablet by far.
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Well judging by his post he doesnt seem to be too fond of it.
Why don't you use your car's own navigation system?
I can understand the complaints against GPS, but if it was me, and i was reliant on the GPS for work etc, i would simply just buy a GPS bluetooth reciever to use with it. Way i see it is the prime is worth the money without GPS chip. I'd prefer it working 100% but its not device critical especially when bluetooth GPS devices are cheap enough.
Think of it like the usual crappy headphones they package with things .. everyone always buys better quality ones to replace them ?
There are always those saying, why don't you just use the car's GPS, or who would use it for navigation anyway? Apparently some people don't get out much. There are other forms of transportation and other outdoor uses which make GPS very desirable for some of us.
Using your rationalization, one could say why do you need a tablet? Why not just use a loptop? It's faster and does things that your tablet can't do.
The prime is a nice device, but it does have it's flaws whether you admit to yourselves or not. When and if Asus get's it completed, I may buy another.
Ehh
I get the same numbers that you were for accuracy, as in it floats between 100 and 60 feet but then I used it for navigation and it worked fine. So Im not sure if its just a reporting error.
I tested it with Run Keeper the other day and besides one small drop in the beginning It was spot on. I'll Try and upload pics to this post later Im at work now.
Mined you this was all before the update. So I'll give it a retest on the way home today and see if it improved. I will admit I did have it sitting on top of the dash so the antenna was facing directly skyward unlike your facing the driver setup.
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There are always those saying, why don't you just use the car's GPS, or who would use it for navigation anyway? Apparently some people don't get out much. There are other forms of transportation and other outdoor uses which make GPS very desirable for some of us.
Using your rationalization, one could say why do you need a tablet? Why not just use a loptop? It's faster and does things that your tablet can't do.
The prime is a nice device, but it does have it's flaws whether you admit to yourselves or not. When and if Asus get's it completed, I may buy another.
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non-sense, it doesn't make any sense to try to use a tablet over a device that's designed specifically for the purpose that you're trying to accomplish. Now I can understand those who don't have GPS navigation in their cars being disappointed but it makes no sense to me of what I see the OP doing. Just my two cents.
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non-sense, it doesn't make any sense to try to use a tablet over a device that's designed specifically for the purpose that you're trying to accomplish. Now I can understand those who don't have GPS navigation in their cars being disappointed but it makes no sense to me of what I see the OP doing. Just my two cents.
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Agreed. And how many people own a tablet but not a smart phone?
People need to get over this gps thing.
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non-sense, it doesn't make any sense to try to use a tablet over a device that's designed specifically for the purpose that you're trying to accomplish. Now I can understand those who don't have GPS navigation in their cars being disappointed but it makes no sense to me of what I see the OP doing. Just my two cents.
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I could also say non-sense, it doesn't make any sense to build a feature in a device and decide it is OK for it not to perform as it should, and does in other tablets, just because you can use another device for that purpose. Any way you sugar coat it, and try to make it OK, it is a defect. Your attempts to justify this are just rationalization.
It is apparent we have different concepts of what is acceptable. Rather than continue this argument of opinions, we must just agree to disagree.
Good luck.
Problem solved:
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This whole thing is pretty funny. You've got an LTE tablet and a WIFI tablet. The WIFI tablet is admittedly pulling data from a second device (a phone) and you are trying to use GPS out of the device with lesser connectivity.
The point is when you are out and about, the Prime cannot be used as a standalone device, it has to tether through something. I could see more of an argument if the Sammy's GPS was crap, I mean by giving it LTE it should work anywhere it can get a data signal. The Prime can't, you've got to use another device, which will have it's own GPS to even get the thing going in the first place.
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The point is when you are out and about, the Prime cannot be used as a standalone device, it has to tether through something. I could see more of an argument if the Sammy's GPS was crap, I mean by giving it LTE it should work anywhere it can get a data signal. The Prime can't, you've got to use another device, which will have it's own GPS to even get the thing going in the first place.
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You seem to be confused about what AGPS does. The wifi is only used to help the GPS get the initial fix faster, after that it should run as a standalone GPS just fine without WIFI. (if it worked correctly)
With that said I think we all already know that the GPS is mostly rubbish on this device. No amount of firmware updates or software tweaks can overcome a bad hardware design, that even ASUS has admitted already. This is basic physics and nobody can write software that fixes this issue. I personally don't believe we need anymore posts on the topic regardless of how well intentioned they might be.
There are three things that are used by GPS:
GPS itself, it detects satellites and calculates its location based on those satellites. It finds satellites and gets location data from those satellites which it then uses to figure out its own location (GPS device is not told by GPS satellites where it is, GPS satellites simply tell where they are). Differently from typical networks that calculate position by triangulation with three cell towers, GPS requires locks on four satellites. This is because GPS also takes altitude into consideration.
AGPS is used to update the database (sort of cache) of GPS satellites. The more up to date this data is, the quicker it can find locks. When GPS signals are weak then this 'assisted' data can be used to figure out incorrect data from correct one. AGPS does not require 3G, it just requires internet. It can improve the amount of time it takes to lock onto GPS satellites signal. It is also possible that AGPS calculates its position from cell towers based on signal strength (this is not called actually AGPS, but is often labeled as one, it is actually Cell-Site Triangulation), this causes possibly inaccurate position (the wide wide circle you see on Google Maps for your position sometimes)
WiFi is used to a) update the AGPS database and b) get information from Google about the approximate location of the device (this is called Wi-Fi Positioning System). Google knows locations of certain WiFi networks, so when you are connected to specific WiFi device, it can lock your position down much quicker since it looks up the location of the WiFi device.
So it is a three-layered process. If your WiFi network is known by Google then you will get WiFi lock much quicker. The widest circle is usually AGPS with just cell-tower information, smaller circle is usually achieved by just WiFi positioning and smallest circle when you actually have a GPS lock.
Azeolus said:
This whole thing is pretty funny. You've got an LTE tablet and a WIFI tablet. The WIFI tablet is admittedly pulling data from a second device (a phone) and you are trying to use GPS out of the device with lesser connectivity.
The point is when you are out and about, the Prime cannot be used as a standalone device, it has to tether through something. I could see more of an argument if the Sammy's GPS was crap, I mean by giving it LTE it should work anywhere it can get a data signal. The Prime can't, you've got to use another device, which will have it's own GPS to even get the thing going in the first place.
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GPS = global positining system. Works anywhere on the globe (that's planet earth, if you don't know).
No GPS requires internet, internet connection helps you acquire faster. You do realize there are offline maps which can be used without internet connection right?
The point is...it doesn't matter how people use their tablet. It has a gps, I should be able to use it anyway I want to use it.
People who have no need for GPS good for you, but how the hell are you going to tell other people that they don't need it. You don't know that.
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good question....
nice comparison though
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GPS = global positining system. Works anywhere on the globe (that's planet earth, if you don't know).
No GPS requires internet, internet connection helps you acquire faster. You do realize there are offline maps which can be used without internet connection right?
The point is...it doesn't matter how people use their tablet. It has a gps, I should be able to use it anyway I want to use it.
People who have no need for GPS good for you, but how the hell are you going to tell other people that they don't need it. You don't know that.
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I really don't get the attitude of some of these sheeple. They can't envision someone using something in a manner they themselves do not. I went through this same idiocy with the Vibrant launch and its GPS issues. Morons would say "Well it works as a phone, you bought a phone, right?" Yeah, for $500 (before subsidy).
WTH is the matter with these people? Do they like big business ****ting all over them?
My Prime's GPS doesn't work at all...with or without wifi.
any one esle experience this? I searched before i posted this. Mods please delete and guide me to a thread if its been created.
anyone?
Try this
Credits to MobileTechReview and Lisa and pdagal (saw this on youtube, so I'm not sure where the original thread is.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgx2Kpfi-Ps&feature=relmfu
Haven't tried this out because I don't own this device. What am I doing here??? Who knows.
I experiend this problem with my Prime too. I used GPS Test, w/ or w/o wifi indoor and I get not signal.
Yeah I did too, took it back got another one with mediocre GPS which pretty much is the best you can get. The perfect working prime does not exist, some people will say they have it but they will also say they don't care about GPS. lol
Good luck hope u can still exchange the thing.
you probably have a terrible connection to the gps antenna. my bet is if you go for a drive and point your TFP out the window for 10 mins you might pick up five sats with bad SNR. exchange it!
Try this for GPS...
I am using this on my android phone: GPS 2 Bluetooth v.2.2 by
cajax
And this on the tablet: Bluetooth GPS by Googoo Android
Download from Android Market and follow the directions and you will get full GPS,,,,especially in the house or car with phone close to window
Settings
-on tablet and phone make sure in Development the Allow for mock locations is checked
-on the Bluetooth GPS by Googoo Android app on tablet check mark in settings "Use insecure connection"
Yeah... there is a billion threads on this forum about GPS problems. Mine is non-existent as well.
I was told that it worked for some people before the firmware / ICS upgrade. But if you are looking for GPS, I would highly recommend you take the Prime back and get something else... because Asus pretty much removed that feature off the spec sheet and stated that "it's not designed to be a professional GPS device"
I am on my 3rd prime before I could see any satellites with mine. Here is a video of one working and one not working.
My GPS worked one time, one night. It never worked before or since. So yes, my WiFi is basically dead on arrival and is completely useless and non functioning.
I finally decide to return mine for a fix, Asus sent me the RMA infomation.
I am kinda disappointed in Asus tranformer prime I have been waiting for it more than a year, else I could have iPad 2.
my case: the GPS work out for the couple of first time OUTdoor only. Then after I update to ICS, GPS was stopped working on both w/ or w/o WIFI, outdoor or indoor.
I also the Wifi was having some issues too, the signal was always week, the further you get from the access point, it is likely you want have wifi...where my iPhonw 4 is working at the same distance....
doeboy711 said:
I am on my 3rd prime before I could see any satellites with mine. Here is a video of one working and one not working.
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Wow, interesting. When you consider the Prime's only been out a little over a month so h/w should be the same and they're all running the same s/w there shouldn't be huge differences between them. Out of curiousity, do they perform differently with Wi-Fi also?
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Wow, interesting. When you consider the Prime's only been out a little over a month so h/w should be the same and they're all running the same s/w there shouldn't be huge differences between them. Out of curiousity, do they perform differently with Wi-Fi also?
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I have had good wifi on all three. Using speed test app on both my phone and the prime, they both pulled almost identical speeds all over my house. The first one had the serial # unkown issue, gps not working at all and screen bleed. The second one also had screen bleed and no gps found. The third one is a keeper, so far everything works out great. It sucks that I got used to the other 2 primes, customized it and then had to return it. But now, since I have a keeper, I am really going to customize the hell out of it lol.
A lot of the wifi problems I had when I first got the Prime eroded away. Mainly it was Wifi and Bluetooth pair problems, but after nearly a month with the Prime I find that I've been Bluetooth pairing and viewing Hulu+ (hacked) / Netflix without issues.
My GPS isn't prefect, but it works enough where I'm not planning to RMA (or return my Prime) because of it.
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whoa... alot of posts!
i dont plan on sending it back, i can live without gps, ill rather use it on my phone.... and the wifi is working fine... just find it a bit weird that it didnt work at all!
worst way for any company to start a top line item... if this worked perfect, imagine how many more sales they would of done... so sad
I'm started this thread because it seems there are a lot of TF201 owners, like me, who feel that the GPS fix is good, but a WIFI fix would be better. Hopefully we can keep the feet to the fire and get some improvements here too.
My WIFI works very well in a 20 foot radius around the router. But step outside that bubble and it drops off significantly. I will need to buy a new access point to have good connectivity in the kitchen. That sucks.
Apparently the C3+ serial numbers are better, here's hoping. I've stayed positive about ASUS and the TF201 since December. Please ASUS, fix the WIFI, not the GPS.
Cheers.
I expressed my opinion in the "thread opened by Gary", it's not necessary to start another discussion here.
I wil folow the primary one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1537260
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I expressed my opinion in the "thread opened by Gary", it's not necessary to start another discussion here.
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Fair enough. But that thread is about general product updates, this is specifically addressing the issue that WIFI is more important than GPS.
Typical 21st century human behavior thx for an almost perfect product but we need MORE!
Not flaming just trashing around. Wifi is more important than GPS. Are wifi repeater that expensive? I'd just go ahead and buy one if that solve all your problems ^^
In my case wifi is good enough. Meaning its similar to my other devices like my phone. It could always be better but i think its as good as it gets with a mobile device that's so thin and made out of aluminum
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I'm started this thread because it seems there are a lot of TF201 owners, like me, who feel that the GPS fix is good, but a WIFI fix would be better. Hopefully we can keep the feet to the fire and get some improvements here too.
My WIFI works very well in a 20 foot radius around the router. But step outside that bubble and it drops off significantly. I will need to buy a new access point to have good connectivity in the kitchen. That sucks.
Apparently the C3+ serial numbers are better, here's hoping. I've stayed positive about ASUS and the TF201 since December. Please ASUS, fix the WIFI, not the GPS.
Cheers.
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I couldn't agree more.
Swap out older models with newer ones that apperrntly have better WiFi
Ever heard the saying you can't please everyone
GPS problems is affecting probably 99% of primes when wi-fi problems are affecting lets say 20%...as a company which would you adress first?
I have had a prime since day of release in UK & have stated on numerous occasions only problem I have is GPS. I do not do all these wi-fi speed tests, bench marks etc I think they just placebo, If you get low scores you are convinced tablet is slow & reverse for if you get high scores. I test my Prime by how it compares to my other products & yes my wi-fi is just as good as my neetbook,phone & old hannspad tablet
wow people are never happy. be glad that asus is actually doing something about the gps. its good to see that a company cares enough about its customers who have ALREADY bought their products to fix it up. i'm sure they will fix up wifi aswell. its good to have a responsive company.
Quit complaining and contact Gary directly. This thread is useless.
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Typical 21st century human behavior thx for an almost perfect product but we need MORE!
Not flaming just trashing around. Wifi is more important than GPS. Are wifi repeater that expensive? I'd just go ahead and buy one if that solve all your problems ^^
In my case wifi is good enough. Meaning its similar to my other devices like my phone. It could always be better but i think its as good as it gets with a mobile device that's so thin and made out of aluminum
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I don't think that it is practical to carry around a wifi repeater everywhere you go...
I agree and posted about this in another thread. While some people use GPS on a tablet, ALL people use wifi on a wifi only tablet.
Perhaps the wifi issue is not as easy and can only be fixed via a panel change. The C3 model apparently does have some bill of material changes for wifi internally, but this will not overcome the attenuation issue caused by the all aluminum back panel.
That said, Flub does have a point that GPS does not work well at all, but some are having better luck with wifi. I disagree on the 20%, but the point is still valid.
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I agree and posted about this in another thread. While some people use GPS on a tablet, ALL people use wifi on a wifi only tablet.
Perhaps the wifi issue is not as easy and can only be fixed via a panel change. The C3 model apparently does have some bill of material changes for wifi internally, but this will not overcome the attenuation issue caused by the all aluminum back panel.
That said, Flub does have a point that GPS does not work well at all, but some are having better luck with wifi. I disagree on the 20%, but the point is still valid.
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+1
Hmm... I wonder how much ASUS is dishing out per 'dongle'.
$10?
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I don't think that it is practical to carry around a wifi repeater everywhere you go...
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Actually for me it is... I have a WL330N3G for that purpose
The point of the OP is that by repairing the GPS, which was needed, they're still not out of the water yet.
And why should I have to buy an new AP if the device is supposed to work properly? I'll do it -- but it doesn't make the original problem right.
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The point of the OP is that by repairing the GPS, which was needed, they're still not out of the water yet.
And why should I have to buy an new AP if the device is supposed to work properly? I'll do it -- but it doesn't make the original problem right.
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You just signed you death sentence. HOW DARE YOU REQUEST A FULLY WORKING PRODUCT FROM ASUS!!??
FcUk gps, don't care much anyway, wifi location is good enough for most of the stuff, but poor wifi on a wifi ONLY device? It's like antenna on an old tv, usable once you fiddle around with it, but right pain in the ass, and god forbid to move it a millimetre.
I don't agree with people bashing you for starting this topic, its a good point.
I didn't exactly purchase this prime for its GPS, i like having the gps to update my location, etc., but I purchased it for its WIFI.
I own an HTC Sensation, which has a metal/plastic case. I receive a much stronger wifi signal with my phone than my prime.
I own an ASUS wifi-N dongle for one of my PCs. It would be awesome if I could use the dongle on my dock, I wouldn't mind that.
great news none the less as it apparently is not going to cost us anything.
http://www.slashgear.com/asus-offers-transformer-prime-owners-hardware-gps-fix-06221855/
Have anyone received an email notice from ASUS yet?
I can't remember, but I hoped I signed up to their website. I think I did when got my Prime 3 months ago.
flub said:
Ever heard the saying you can't please everyone
GPS problems is affecting probably 99% of primes when wi-fi problems are affecting lets say 20%...as a company which would you adress first?
I have had a prime since day of release in UK & have stated on numerous occasions only problem I have is GPS. I do not do all these wi-fi speed tests, bench marks etc I think they just placebo, If you get low scores you are convinced tablet is slow & reverse for if you get high scores. I test my Prime by how it compares to my other products & yes my wi-fi is just as good as my neetbook,phone & old hannspad tablet
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I seriously doubt wifi on your prime is "as good as" your other devices. My prime is slower than every one of my other 9 devices in my house. I don't care about benchmarks...they only reaffirm what I already see in everyday use. Try streaming a 1080p or even a 720p more than 20 feet away from your router and you'll likely see a problem. Depending on where you are in your house and how big your house is, the problem will be worse for some.
On campus I can barely use wifi even though it works great on my Galaxy Nexus. I'm having to buy a repeater just for the Asus Transformer Prime. At only 2 rooms away it is unusable for anything but casual web browsing.
And don't get me started on bluetooth + wifi.
At this point, despite loving everything else about my prime, I would love to just return it but I am outside of my return policy by a good bit.
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I seriously doubt wifi on your prime is "as good as" your other devices. My prime is slower than every one of my other 9 devices in my house. I don't care about benchmarks...they only reaffirm what I already see in everyday use. Try streaming a 1080p or even a 720p more than 20 feet away from your router and you'll likely see a problem. Depending on where you are in your house and how big your house is, the problem will be worse for some.
On campus I can barely use wifi even though it works great on my Galaxy Nexus. I'm having to buy a repeater just for the Asus Transformer Prime. At only 2 rooms away it is unusable for anything but casual web browsing.
And don't get me started on bluetooth + wifi.
At this point, despite loving everything else about my prime, I would love to just return it but I am outside of my return policy by a good bit.
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Nope, it's just you.
My Wifi is just as good on my Asus notebook, actually better then my HP notebook and my G2 phone.
bluewr said:
Nope, it's just you.
My Wifi is just as good on my Asus notebook, actually better then my HP notebook and my G2 phone.
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yup, all the other complaints on this forum and elsewhere are just me signed in under a different username.
I fail to see how your supposedly perfect TF201 means those that have hardware issues shouldn't complain.
Hi All,
Prior to me posting i have searched in regards to this issue but have not come across any threads that discuss it that much.
I generally use my prime to stream videos over the local network and I am usually 15ft away from my router. When I first connect to my network the Link Speed is usually at 72 - 39Mbps which is great for the first 20-30 minutes of streaming, once I stop and check again my Link Speed drops and stays around the 1 - 2Mbps. It takes a while to pick up or I usually turn WIFI off then back on again. I do stream from other devices without issues in Link Speed drop and i know my network is correctly set up. Signal is still "ok" 3 bars, -65 - -55dBm.
Does this happen to anyone else? I'm tempted to try a factory reset seeing as i haven't done one since I purchased sometime in January or is this issue worth RMA'ing?
Serial: BC0K...
I don't think that's a problem. 1 mbps is pretty good for me, and, unless you're streaming crazy 1080p or 4k vidya, I don't think that should be a problem. And, most likely, its your router's compatibility with the prime that's causing it. BTW, my computer barely gets 10 mbps, feelsbadman.
Sent from my tf9001 with XDA XD.
Fair enough, cheers for the reply!