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Hey guys,
I just got my mogul and am just starting to mess around with it. I am looking at custom roms, and would like to understand what they are doing, and eventually figure out how to make my own.
I am having trouble understanding how the rom file works. I downloaded one of dcd's clean rom to have a look at it, but i cant get past the 02_OS.nb file. what is this file, and how do I interpret it? Is there some program that i can use to extract it (if it even works like that)? I found the nbh extractor program on the wiki, but i cant find anything to do with the nb files on the wiki, or through the search function for that matter.
Thanks for any help,
Stuart
Sturatt,
What you are trying to do takes quite a bit of research and lots of getting stuck trying to figure things out. It sounds like you are very new to this and if that is the case I would definately do a lot more reading first. I got into making my own roms based on others roms within kitchens and it took me about a month or two to say I actually understand what I am doing and I still don't know how to do a lot of things.
Anyway if you don't want to spend tons of time messing with roms I would suggest getting a rom that has alrady been built by guys that have tons of knowledge such as DCD's roms, Custels roms, Colonels roms etc. The first two have postings on this forum, there are others at the ppcgeeks forum.
That being said if you do want to spend the time check out http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=10401 this is a discussion on what you are trying to do and there are some links to tutorials.
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Sturatt,
What you are trying to do takes quite a bit of research and lots of getting stuck trying to figure things out. It sounds like you are very new to this and if that is the case I would definately do a lot more reading first. I got into making my own roms based on others roms within kitchens and it took me about a month or two to say I actually understand what I am doing and I still don't know how to do a lot of things.
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Start with downloading and learning to install custom pre-made ROMs. Read all relevant material as links to other discussion boards are just about everywhere. With custom ROMs, you can find a base that you like and as you develop your ROM skills, you can take it to the next level by further tweaking a ROM to suit your needs.
Research, some trial & error, make plenty of back-ups and prepare to do some hard resetting!
Awesome, thanks guys. I realize it is going to be pretty tough, but i would rather learn it and understand what is going on, so no i dont mind reading a ton of stuff, i was just having trouble finding the stuff to read.
jjlwork and xweaponx thanks for the good advice. and If anyone else has some good articles/links for a beginner in this area, or anything interesting, please post away! In the mean time ill read that thread you posted, and look for more like it.
Thanks again,
Stuart
Let me know what kind of applications you are looking for or what you would like your phone to do and I will try to get you pointed in the right direction...
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Awesome, thanks guys. I realize it is going to be pretty tough
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not really, just lots of reading and testing things. i never had a ppc before august 07 or so. take it slowly, try one thing at a time.
i see all these nice incons and i have no clue how u install them , i really would appericate it if someone could list step by step how to install them thank u so much
Here my friend take a look at this thread! I don't think I can explain it much better!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567080
What are those "Help me!!!!!!!"-Threads always supposed to be? Is it so difficult to choose a proper ThreadTitle which informs a potential reader about the content of the Thread. And why the hell must it sound like you have bricked your phone completely when u just want to ask a minor standard-question (without even using the searchfunction by the way... ). Please Guys keep this forum clean and informative.
Thanks
Yes, it's crazy to see all those questions without people make the effort to use the search function!
im not that good on here sorry for the quesions but i have one more how do u flash your cabs and xmls again im sorry and thank u alot
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im not that good on here sorry for the quesions but i have one more how do u flash your cabs and xmls again im sorry and thank u alot
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Flash is fore Rom's!!
Cabs are installed!!
Just download the cab's you need, copy to your SD and pres on install! Don't see the difficult in it!
Oh yes fore your safety, install the cab on the device's memory!!
no i understand all of that , im talking about when i save my new icons to a folder then go in and copy them , i needed to knw where i paste them so they will show up in the start menu
^^^ Did you actually really read the answer in posting #2?
I kind of doubt that. Because your new question implies you haven´t.
Please follow the link, read everything, download and try the app - and there you go.
so friendly
Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
zarpy said:
Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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Sometimes (a lot of) people just don't read nor search and expect to be spoon-fed the information they need (because they would not spend the effort to do/find it themselves). I don't know about the majority but to me that is just laziness and quite annoying.
AS FOR THE QUESTION POSTED, if you actually do go to the link posted above, the information is there and any questions you might still have is better directed in that thread rather than creating a new one such as this with a SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!! subject line.
I thought moderators are deleting threads such as this.
zarpy said:
Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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Nobody is jumping on anybody.
The truth is harsh sometimes. Obsolete and redundant questions and answers are definitely not something any forum is searching for. It´s called spam.
Ignoring the correct answer (which in this case was given in the very first answering posting) isn´t a beginners mistake, imho. It doesn´t show respect to the user who posted the link.
If me pointing out this very fact was too rude, I am sorry. But to be honest, I am tired of recurring subjects which could easily be solved using the search function. I did the same when I came here as a beginner. Oh, and btw, please check the forum rules and the new stickies.
Last, but not least, in the other forum you mention, it might be a different story sometimes. People get ignored there, and some statements are much harsher than anything I have personally ever seen here.
We are all human beings. Cool down.
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Ok yes the link provided was good information. I personally just PM someone when I have a question. I been here for a while so i have that option because people will PM me back.
My point is some people or smarter than others. Iam a developer myself, so alot of problems or questions I can figure out on my own. But some people are not that smart and this phone can very easily expose that fact. So some new people might need more help , and sarcasm wont help anyone. They dont call this a smart phone for nothing. Whats simple to you and me , might be complicated to others.
zarpy said:
Wow xda-developers is so friendly!! Whats with all the jumping on people. If someone is new they dont know how it works in here. So just let them know , in a nice way. The responses here sound like you dont want any new people here. Fine any new person who reads this head over to www.ppcgeeks.com . The people are much nicer there and wont get pissed if you ask a question.
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I don't see what's your problem Sr.
First of all the moderators have create a special sub-forum fore this Q and A.
secondly I can understand that maybe using the searchfunction is not easy to everyone, and certainly not if you don't know what to search!
But after the moment I post him the correct link to his question, a hole thread that give you bay the way a hole step by step explanations I don't know how we can give a better treatment!?
but after that the person came back with a question what is tread in there!!!???
I don't know sr but there is a end on everyone's goodness!
nice is a good word
Ok I understand its annoying when newbies just dont get it. As for a problem I dont have one , and maybe I came off harsh. My mistake too.
When the OP said flash a cab , that alone told me he isn't computer or phone savy. He obviously is way over his head with this type of phone. He probaly got lucky when he found this website. Iam sure he was excited that he could ask a question because he was lost. The comment that pissed me off a little was telling him its safer to install to the phone. Thats definitally not right at all.
The only reason I said anything was because I could tell the OP was really lost and confused. By reading his comments I could tell he never had anything like this before. So for his 1st venture into the wonderful world of windows mobile, I just didnt want him to be discouraged. I want him to enjoy the phone and mod it to the fullest extent.
the reason way I have wright "installed cabs on your device" is because there are some cab's that don't have a correct installation pat. And like I saw it was a new member who posted this thread I give him this tip, to be sure he don't installed it on SD.
I don't see what is wrong with that!?
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1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
It´s a bit sad to see the development of this thread.
Something which was not "bashing" turned into bashing after a posting was made, citing the "bad word". In the meantime, there was even a thread opened to discuss that very question.
I think both threads should be closed. They don´t belong into the "HD2 Themes and Apps" section anyway.
And, imho, it is recommendable to install system relevant items like icon cabs to the device, I definitely second kurt-willems´ advice. On the other hand, CSMI or JWMD Icon Changer, the possible programs to change icons manually, can go onto the memory card.
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1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
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But I don't see sarcasm on my post, maybe my bad english, or maybe my culture.
That was all I had to say.
zarpy said:
1) Installation on a unstable OS like windows mobile ,will cause slowdown in the future after alot of apps are installed. Its nobodys fault but HTC who made the phone.
2) If there is a virus , you can delete it easier on storage card.
3) If you have to hard reset the phone , you lose everything. Thats why I recommend storage card.
See how nicely I spoke , I gave point by point reasons without sarcasm. We are all happy now.
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I don't want to wade in on the bashing, but to make a comment like your first one, "unstable OS", sounds to me like you have something against windows mobile, and to post in a thread of someone looking for help that their os is just "Unstable" is not really help ...
I am sure there are a lot of people that use WiMo daily and would not agree that it is "Unstable"
I personally install almost everything to phone memory because this phone can take it, and my phone runs just fine...
With this phone there is a bigger chance of the SD card getting corrupted than the OS ...
life is funny
Its very funny to me now. I just responded and I didnt bash anyone. Its funny how people can talk to someone anyway they like, but cant take it when someone talks to them the same way.
If you didnt like the way I responded, maybe you shouldnt that way to others. Very simple have a nice day!!!
I'm thinking about rooting my G2, currently running 2.3.4. I plan on using the method shown here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
But before I potentially brick my phone, as I am a COMPLETE noob, I was wondering if there are any topic I should read first. Things that will help me understand what I'm doing and how to fix common issues I may/will run into. I did some searching for noob guides but they were all phone specific, and I couldn't find anything specific to the G2 for noobs. A dictionary of terms, for example, would be very helpful. Any and all advice and links would be highly appreciate! Thanks in advance.
P.s. Sorry if this was asked a million times. I did search, as i mentioned, but searches yielded 50,000+ results and not much help.
Generally IMO rooting is relatively safe, its more about what you do after rooting your phone where the potential to "brick" it comes about. I.E Flashing Radios ect..
There is plenty of guides going about the net for a whole range of phones, what i done when i decided i wanted to root my phone was read a few articles for my phone make/model and read them all again just to make sure i understood them as i was in a similar position to yourself with very little knowledge about rooting or flashing roms ect..
You should check out other sites as well as this one of course and find one that you feel you can understand, theunlockr.com (just browse the "how to" section for your phone) they have videos (But not all of them work) was a good one for me aswell as using google to look for videos. Another good site is androidforums and not forgetting XDA its self.
Good luck....
You are on the wrong forum. This one is for the HTC Hero GSM, you have a G2 aka Desire Z.
I don't know how I missed that Habarug. Mods please feel free to relocate to the proper section.
Your not the first one gonna contact some mods and ask if they can remove the g2 touch part of the forum name
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DISCLAIMER: It seems I, and all the other newbies, have to add this to the top of our posts. Yes, I have tried searching for my answer, and no, I did not find it quickly. I prefer the speed and intimacy of human interaction, as well as the fact that I usually learn new things that I would not have from a simple search. If I offend you by dirtying up your forums with a repeat question, please just ignore this thread entirely, I don't want to hear it. If I offend any mods by asking a repeat question, I apologise, please lock this thread and I'll be on my merry way
So I've got the base CM7 working on my Bell MB860, and I love it. I finally have HDMI mirroring, my phone's boot time is 1/10th of what it was before, I don't have any bloatware anymore... these people are getting a donation from me! And to think that some people expect you to pay $1.99 for a flashlight app on Google Play, and the Cyanogenmod is completely free... I just have a few questions:
1) Since I lost my backup of my stock ROM (CWM told me it made the backup just fine before I flashed it, CWM did NOT tell me it corrupted the MFT of my SD card to a point where even R-Studio could not recover the raw data), I just made a backup of the working CM7 installation. Am I correct in that the backup is stored in sdcard\\clockworkmod\backup? And is the timestamp on it supposed to not be adjusted for time zone? Just trying to make sure I have the right backup selected, but the time stamp is 4 hours before when I actually made the backup.
2) I would like to try out some of the ROMs based on CM7. I hear MROM is pretty good. But is there an easier way to install new roms than doing a factory data reset, and then reinstalling all my apps and reconfiguring all my settings for every new rom?
Other 2) And what's all this about downgrading your SBF version can hardbrick your device, would downgrading my CM version do the same?
3) Why do dogs have cold, wet noses?
Thanks in advance for anyone who donates their time to read and answer my questions!
You only have to wipe when switching to a different ROM "flavor". When upgrading to a new version of a ROM, a wipe is not necessary unless the upgrade instructions say otherwise. Or, you could go with the inverse logic - don't wipe unless absolutely necessary, ie. apps are crashing and/or malfunctioning after flashing.
You might also want to try Titanium Backup, it helps with transferring apps and user data to a new ROM.
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moeburn said:
I prefer the speed and intimacy of human interaction
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You will soon learn it is completely irrelevant what you do or do not prefer. If you want to be a part of a community, you have to adhere to that community's rules. Here, that includes searching and reading on your own as much as you can, with opening a new thread being the very last resort. People have put tremendous effort into writing tutorials and explanations and building compendiums and knowledge databases, asking the same question over and over again basically means all their effort was completely wasted. They have done so specifically to avoid every single newbie asking the same questions again.
ravilov said:
You only have to wipe when switching to a different ROM "flavor". When upgrading to a new version of a ROM, a wipe is not necessary unless the upgrade instructions say otherwise. Or, you could go with the inverse logic - don't wipe unless absolutely necessary, ie. apps are crashing and/or malfunctioning after flashing.
You might also want to try Titanium Backup, it helps with transferring apps and user data to a new ROM.
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Thanks for the info!
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You will soon learn it is completely irrelevant what you do or do not prefer. If you want to be a part of a community, you have to adhere to that community's rules. Here, that includes searching and reading on your own as much as you can, with opening a new thread being the very last resort. People have put tremendous effort into writing tutorials and explanations and building compendiums and knowledge databases, asking the same question over and over again basically means all their effort was completely wasted. They have done so specifically to avoid every single newbie asking the same questions again.
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I do not wish to be a part of any community that treats newbies asking repeat questions with such hostility. If anything, it helps make it easier to find the answer to your question if there is more than one thread asking that question. Part of the problem is that there are so many tutorials and explanations and knowledge databases that after about 30 minutes of trying to search for my answer, I simply give up. I didn't ask anyone to write a tutorial, if they feel their time was wasted, that's their problem. It is very sad to see that every single time someone asks a question, they almost always preface it with a statement to the effect of "I tried searching, but...". There's very little gain to be made by telling someone to "go use the search function and stop asking repeat questions". You make a newbie feel unwelcome, and make it harder for them to learn, at the expense of having a slightly tidier forum, and sensitive tutorial writers not having their feelings hurt.
You too should know that it is irrelevant to me what people like that prefer. I honestly would prefer no help at all, to that kind of 'help'. I would prefer to have my account banned, than to have some punk think that they can treat me like sh*t just because my Join Date and Post Count are less than theirs.
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I do not wish to be a part of any community that treats newbies asking repeat questions with such hostility. If anything, it helps make it easier to find the answer to your question if there is more than one thread asking that question. Part of the problem is that there are so many tutorials and explanations and knowledge databases that after about 30 minutes of trying to search for my answer, I simply give up. I didn't ask anyone to write a tutorial, if they feel their time was wasted, that's their problem. It is very sad to see that every single time someone asks a question, they almost always preface it with a statement to the effect of "I tried searching, but...". There's very little gain to be made by telling someone to "go use the search function and stop asking repeat questions". You make a newbie feel unwelcome, and make it harder for them to learn, at the expense of having a slightly tidier forum, and sensitive tutorial writers not having their feelings hurt.
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Not sure how others feel like, but personally I think this is not so much about keeping "the precious forum clean", more like "give a man a fish" vs. "teach a man to fish". Not quite the best approach, I agree, but this kind of attitude (sometimes viewed as aggressive or hostile) does indeed often make people search (or search more), and then often times they do find the answer they've been looking for, written down in plain sight. And then they do it again, this time on their own. And so in due time they're not only able to find all the info they need, but they're also able to teach others to do the same. It's not even just about this forum, being able to research properly is IMO a very useful skill in general.
On the other hand, there is indeed a set of "very well known facts" around here, and anyone asking about them is immediately seen as a noob with little to no regard for the community and with either poor search skills or just plain lazy. This "ellitistic" attitude seems to plague most hi-tech communities sooner or later, and I agree it is not a good thing. I myself have been guilty of it, but I'm trying to get rid of it.
Anyway, that is just my personal opinion and view of the situation. I by no means own this forum and generally I'm trying to not tell people what to do, just point them in the right direction. I'm just trying to give you an insight of how communities like this function. I'm a part of another (highly technical) forum and the general atmosphere there is very comparable to here, so it's safe to assume that that is just how things go in communities like this. You can adhere to the same rules or you can choose to be hated because you don't, but you won't ever change the mindset.
Anyway, enough off-topic.
moeburn said:
DISCLAIMER: It seems I, and all the other newbies, have to add this to the top of our posts. Yes, I have tried searching for my answer, and no, I did not find it quickly. I prefer the speed and intimacy of human interaction, as well as the fact that I usually learn new things that I would not have from a simple search. If I offend you by dirtying up your forums with a repeat question, please just ignore this thread entirely, I don't want to hear it. If I offend any mods by asking a repeat question, I apologise, please lock this thread and I'll be on my merry way
So I've got the base CM7 working on my Bell MB860, and I love it. I finally have HDMI mirroring, my phone's boot time is 1/10th of what it was before, I don't have any bloatware anymore... these people are getting a donation from me! And to think that some people expect you to pay $1.99 for a flashlight app on Google Play, and the Cyanogenmod is completely free... I just have a few questions:
1) Since I lost my backup of my stock ROM (CWM told me it made the backup just fine before I flashed it, CWM did NOT tell me it corrupted the MFT of my SD card to a point where even R-Studio could not recover the raw data), I just made a backup of the working CM7 installation. Am I correct in that the backup is stored in sdcard\\clockworkmod\backup? And is the timestamp on it supposed to not be adjusted for time zone? Just trying to make sure I have the right backup selected, but the time stamp is 4 hours before when I actually made the backup.
2) I would like to try out some of the ROMs based on CM7. I hear MROM is pretty good. But is there an easier way to install new roms than doing a factory data reset, and then reinstalling all my apps and reconfiguring all my settings for every new rom?
Other 2) And what's all this about downgrading your SBF version can hardbrick your device, would downgrading my CM version do the same?
3) Why do dogs have cold, wet noses?
Thanks in advance for anyone who donates their time to read and answer my questions!
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You don't need to complete a factory reset if you're going to a completely new ROM. You simply need to process a data and cache wipe in CWM. Use titanium backup, call log restore, SMS restore, and APN settings restore before wiping. That'll make the migration process much easier and seamless. It takes time, but it eliminates a few layers of complication during the process. Upload your backups to google drive or Dropbox as well as to your desktop.
About your disclaimer: I completely understand your frustration. However, including such a vociferously rebellious statement atop each thread that you post invites a negative reaction. And doing so isn't going to change the social dynamics of this community. It simply disrupts the integrity of our discussions. Simply search for your answer. If that fails to satisfy your needs, post a new thread. Ignore those who respond in a unhelpful manner. If they're not acknowledged, they're powerless. By specifically addressing and acknowledging that demographic during each post, you're inviting their hostility into the discussion.
Yes, there are great compendiums of technological knowledge available to us on XDA. However, a forum search engine hardly qualifies as a great organizer for such a repository. So, we will encounter redundant threads guys. Deal with it.
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Could someone point me to the ultimate thread for this?
I know nada about rooting, and im also new to Android, and before i dig into to that, i need info on do's and dont's, advantages/disadvantages, what to look out for, and if the process can be reversed back to stock fw?
Thanks :fingers-crossed:
appfactory said:
Could someone point me to the ultimate thread for this?
I know nada about rooting, and im also new to Android, and before i dig into to that, i need info on do's and dont's, advantages/disadvantages, what to look out for, and if the process can be reversed back to stock fw?
Thanks :fingers-crossed:
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GT-I9300 General Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1564
everything you need to know is in there, do some reading and once you've read it, read it again.
squ89r97 said:
GT-I9300 General Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1564
everything you need to know is in there, do some reading and once you've read it, read it again.
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So there are no other ways to find out than reading 100 000 of posts multiple times to get help on that?
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So there are no other ways to find out than reading 100 000 of posts multiple times to get help on that?
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yes, use search, it's honestly not hard. I'll give you a hand
***Roll-Up Sticky Thread*** Stickies found here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
This is the 7th post down in the General thread, no where near 100000.
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yes, use search, it's honestly not hard. I'll give you a hand
***Roll-Up Sticky Thread*** Stickies found here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
This is the 7th post down in the General thread, no where near 100000.
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My bad, i should have mentioned that ive already used the notorious search button, which apparently leads to ALOT of DIFFERENT threads about the same topic, hence my question, "which is the ULTIMATE thread for noobs"
Im sorry, but I dont know which is the right thread and not, if i did, i wouldnt bother asking that question, would i?
In theory its just downloading a file, unzip it, connect phone to computer and execute, right?
http://youtu.be/vhSSmdqAXRM
However, after a long life, my experience is that it would be convenient to know more than just the action itself, cause there are always traps, which isnt always mentioned or described in those threads cause they take for granted that people who want to do this already know everything about it.
If there are risks involved doing it, like choosing the wrong vers, having the wrong bb etc, i want to learn and be aware of it BEFORE i attempt or even consider doing it, cause i dont want to brick my phone.
Unfortunatelly i have a daytime job, and not much time left for reading through endless threads and comments, thats why i addressed the experienced members in here that already know what im looking for, and can in his, or her way save me for reading all the stuff that i dont need to know, or are irrelevant in my case
Btw, i got a GT-I9300 with 4.1.2 - BB I9300XXEMB5
Dont mean to be rude, but sharing is caring, and i would love to help others in the same way sharing my knowledge, if i could, instead of just inform people about the search function... its getting old.
Im a little tired of all the wise guys in here sitting on their horses pretending to know everything, but isnt willing to help or share in a nice way, instead just being arrogant in a patronizing way.
I can assure you, if you threat people more friendly, people will show more gratefulness in return, and if you dont, u get ungrateful speaches like this in return instead
A good atmosphere is much easier to achieve if you include people, rather than exclude them....
Hope i dint offend you with my "speach"
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My bad, i should have mentioned that ive already used the notorious search button, which apparently leads to ALOT of DIFFERENT threads about the same topic, hence my question, "which is the ULTIMATE thread for noobs"
Im sorry, but I dont know which is the right thread and not, if i did, i wouldnt bother asking that question, would i?
there is no "right thread" and they are all full of various things you could do with knowing. there are a lot of people who come here expecting a quick and easy "which is the ULTIMATE thread for noobs" - there is none, they're all relivant.
In theory its just downloading a file, unzip it, connect phone to computer and execute, right?
http://youtu.be/vhSSmdqAXRM
However, after a long life, my experience is that it would be convenient to know more than just the action itself, cause there are always traps, which isnt always mentioned or described in those threads cause they take for granted that people who want to do this already know everything about it.
If there are risks involved doing it, like choosing the wrong vers, having the wrong bb etc, i want to learn and be aware of it BEFORE i attempt or even consider doing it, cause i dont want to brick my phone.
I agree with everything you said here, which is why you should read the threads, they're all relivant
Unfortunatelly i have a daytime job, and not much time left for reading through endless threads and comments, that's why i addressed the experienced members in here that already know what im looking for, and can in his, or her way save me for reading all the stuff that i dont need to know, or are irrelevant in my case
unfortunately, i also have a day time job (oh what a chore hey?) most of the people, including the devs and the more experienced members here have jobs too, i doubt they all came here with instant vast knowledge on how to flash and all of it's woes, i also doubt they just came here and asked someone to pick out all the best bit for them. I bet they read all the posts, dammit they made the posts, the roms you will use, the rooting procedures. everything on here - for you to say "save me for reading all the stuff that i dont need to know, or are irrelevant in my case" is just being ignorant, as i've said everything is relevant, it seems that you want to know everything and share the knowledge but don't want to read about it - it's the only way to learn
Btw, i got a GT-I9300 with 4.1.2 - BB I9300XXEMB5
Dont mean to be rude, but sharing is caring, and i would love to help others in the same way sharing my knowledge, if i could, instead of just inform people about the search function... its getting old.
how do you expect to share knowledge, if you don't read all the info and just get told what you want to know?
Im a little tired of all the wise guys in here sitting on their horses pretending to know everything, but isnt willing to help or share in a nice way, instead just being arrogant in a patronizing way.
i'm pretty sure all the "wise guys" on here are fed up with noobs (I by the way, still consider myself a noob) coming here and asking for things to be given to them on a silver platter! we/they are not being patronizing or arrogant, they are simply telling you to do your research - just like they did.
I can assure you, if you threat people more friendly, people will show more gratefulness in return, and if you dont, u get ungrateful speaches like this in return instead
i think you meant treat not "threat" oh and thanks for the assurance . i'm sorry you are being ungrateful just because someone (I) told you to read up! - it's probably not the best way to get help when you refer to the members as "wise guys" "sitting on their high horses" "being arrogant in a patronizing way" - that's how you portray friendliness?
A good atmosphere is much easier to achieve if you include people, rather than exclude them....
Hope i dint offend you with my "speach"
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not offended at all :crying:
I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but i'm not being an A$$ - i'm telling you that what you need to know is all in those posts.
i'm done :laugh:
Of course mate, i didnt expect you to read for me, lol, but i was hoping to get pointed to the "most relevant" thread about what i wanted to know, and probably one single thread would be more than enough info to read up.
Forums like these are getting out of proportions after some years, and sometimes impossible to navigate through, and why shouldnt i be allowed to ask for help or shortcuts? Who made up that rule?
If i had been here two years longer than you, doesnt mean i need to hold back any info cause i had to learn everything the hard way, instead i would gladly at least guide people in the right direction.
Ive been in allot of different forums over the past years with different kinds if subjects, but never a forum like this where people are so grumpy and very little welcoming and including, there are no "welcome to the forum buddy, i will try my best to guide you in the right direction"
Eventually one will find the way on its own, but sometimes its nice to be lead onto the right path.
I totally agree, and i ALWAYS try to find the answers im looking for through the search function before i ask, but when i stall, i post in a friendly and humble way like i tried to in my original post.
If all the answers to your questions was to read through every topic, there would be vert little activity in here, but then again, maybe easier to browse through.
A forum where its "stupid" or not "allowed" to ask questions is to me more equal to Google... yea, Google is your friend, but sometimes you wish to know more spesific things...
And thanks to you too, im not rooting my phone, cause im not able to find the proper info im looking for... and gives me one more reason to get back to my "boring" Iphone again... but hey, life goes on anyway... :good:
they have a link for the rooting guides for the noobs at the section list
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703488
All in one tool
appfactory said:
And thanks to you too, im not rooting my phone, cause im not able to find the proper info im looking for... and gives me one more reason to get back to my "boring" Iphone again... but hey, life goes on anyway... :good:
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I don't want to sound arrogant or anything and I am always happy to help, but if you do not find the guide for rooting... it seems you didn't follow the advice given to you in the posts earlier.
That are stickies in the general section which will help you to understand the basics of rooting, flashing etc. And in addition you have tons of YouTube guides out there.
Hence I wish you good luck, anything is out there for you to learn and share later on, just a little bit of effort is needed to get there.
Btw here you go again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113 and even at the beginning of the q&a section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148708
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I am going to add that you should pick the method that you actually understand the instructions for . That goes for all other flashes updates etc .
If you don't understand then you will probably be joining the help i bricked my phone club .
jje
JJEgan said:
I am going to add that you should pick the method that you actually understand the instructions for . That goes for all other flashes updates etc .
If you don't understand then you will probably be joining the help i bricked my phone club .
jje
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Finally someone who understands where im going with this, thanks... And that was the intention with this thread, to get a pointer to the one or maybe two or even three or four threads that covers the most essential things... I dont know whats essential or not (yet), i can surely read dozens of how to's but i still dont know if its the right solution for my phone and the vers i have.
A bit like jb an iphone, just download this and do that... "oh, you had that bb vers" "thats the only one thats not compatible with this vers" sorry u bricked your phone.
But it feels like its just, if u got the balls, or know everything about it, just do it, or everything is at your own risk, its a hit or miss thing...
I dont think i will root my phone after all, cause there are so much info on how to do it that differs from eachother, and nobody cant seem to tell which thread is the right one for MY phone...
But thanks anyway, to those that actually tried to point me there...
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Finally someone who understands where im going with this, thanks... And that was the intention with this thread, to get a pointer to the one or maybe two or even three or four threads that covers the most essential things... I dont know whats essential or not (yet), i can surely read dozens of how to's but i still dont know if its the right solution for my phone and the vers i have.
A bit like jb an iphone, just download this and do that... "oh, you had that bb vers" "thats the only one thats not compatible with this vers" sorry u bricked your phone.
But it feels like its just, if u got the balls, or know everything about it, just do it, or everything is at your own risk, its a hit or miss thing...
I dont think i will root my phone after all, cause there are so much info on how to do it that differs from eachother, and nobody cant seem to tell which thread is the right one for MY phone...
But thanks anyway, to those that actually tried to point me there...
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Sorry you are wrong a day or two actually reading the basic faqs and guides is the starting point that you don't want to start with .This is after all a developers forum that has no place spoon feeding those that dont want to learn .
Their is no best the basic stickied faqs and guides all say the same as do the instructions for each method .
The confusion lies in answers to posts like this where xx say this way is best and b say no use x .Unfortunately due to multiple same posts it is not that easy to navigate the forum but the answer to that is for noobs to bother reading the facts and guides before posting repetitive questions .
I would in your case read the instructions and use CF Root method .
jje
Look for cf auto root if you don't want recovery to be stock. Use cf root if u want the custom recovery. To all advanced user out there, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Look for cf auto root if you don't want recovery to be stock. Use cf root if u want the custom recovery. To all advanced user out there, correct me if I'm wrong.
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If youre right, thats the shortest and best answer so far, :good: given
azrieqb said:
Look for cf auto root if you don't want recovery to be stock. Use cf root if u want the custom recovery. To all advanced user out there, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Haha. Can't edit with xda app. What I really mean is, cf auto root will not change your recovery. Accidentally put "dont" there.
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