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I'm running ROM Version 1.18.255.3
Radio Version 1.03.03.10
with boot loader 1.06
I want to know if I can upgrade the Radio version to one of the newer ones. I have an HTC TyTN, unlocked, using Cingular Service. I'm just worried that if I upgrade the radio I won't get any access...any tips, or suggestions?
Yes I have read the Hermes upgrading guide, but it doesn't answer my questions.
I'd try re-reading it, and a few threads on here that have to deal with RADIO roms....
hZSoul said:
I'm running ROM Version 1.18.255.3
Radio Version 1.03.03.10
with boot loader 1.06
I want to know if I can upgrade the Radio version to one of the newer ones. I have an HTC TyTN, unlocked, using Cingular Service. I'm just worried that if I upgrade the radio I won't get any access...any tips, or suggestions?
Yes I have read the Hermes upgrading guide, but it doesn't answer my questions.
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mate honestly if you read the guides and this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295751 you would have a basic idea. If you still cant understand it then read the wiki here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
hZSoul said:
I'm running ROM Version 1.18.255.3
Radio Version 1.03.03.10
with boot loader 1.06
I want to know if I can upgrade the Radio version to one of the newer ones. I have an HTC TyTN, unlocked, using Cingular Service. I'm just worried that if I upgrade the radio I won't get any access...any tips, or suggestions?
Yes I have read the Hermes upgrading guide, but it doesn't answer my questions.
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Hi sir, it would be better for you to thoroughly read the wiki and various threads on this. Having seen your ROM version etc... I would definatly recommend flashing a newer TyTN rom, the latest one available that is still in WM5 is the AKU3.3 ROM which has the newer radio rom in it aswell, you will possibly get better call reception etc.... also the ROM is a HELL of alot more stable than the one you are running now. Video playback in TCPMP/Coreplayer works with ATi Imageon turned on, and works flawlessly in rawframbuffer mode (so you can watch divx and things on your TyTN....worth it for the train)
Dont be too quick to flash it though....definatly read up on what you are doing before you go ahead. Any more questions (once you have read up ) come back here.
Alright, I was up pretty late last night reading the wiki. I'll continue to read today, and then I'll have some more questions. I've almost got it sorted, so...
Thanks alot guys for the help, as I was considering returning my TyTN, and going back to my older mobile.
hZSoul said:
Alright, I was up pretty late last night reading the wiki. I'll continue to read today, and then I'll have some more questions. I've almost got it sorted, so...
Thanks alot guys for the help, as I was considering returning my TyTN, and going back to my older mobile.
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:O NO WAY!!!!! you havent even touched the realms of stuff you can do with it!
Ok so heres some questions to start off with.
After reading the wiki, I kind of took myself in a loop. At first I just wanted to upgrade the Radio. It told me to downgrade to 1.04, and then I would be able to load any radio version I wanted. So I went to the downgrade page, and it said I needed the CID Unlocker. I tried to download that, however the zip is a corrupt file. If anyone has it, and could send it to me, that would be appreciated.
Now my next question is...do I need to use the CID Unlocker to be able to upgrade the ROM? Or can I just download AKU 3.3, install it, and it will flash the ROM without any problems.
Thanks!
EDIT: So I went here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282073, to check the CID / SIM Unlocker, but it says I need to downgrade to 1.04, because I can upgrade.
Try reading: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665
I read that, and I went ahead and ran the program.
I'm still using SPL 1.06
ROM Version still 1.18.255.3
Radio has been updated to 1.16.00.00.
Reception still hasn't changed much. I'll have 4Bars to start with, and then it will drop to 2...
I also used the CID/SIM Unlocker, so I'm good to go.
That means I should be able to load AKU3.3 right? Or should I downgrade to SPL 1.04 first?
hZSoul said:
I read that, and I went ahead and ran the program.
I'm still using SPL 1.06
ROM Version still 1.18.255.3
Radio has been updated to 1.16.00.00.
Reception still hasn't changed much. I'll have 4Bars to start with, and then it will drop to 2...
I also used the CID/SIM Unlocker, so I'm good to go.
That means I should be able to load AKU3.3 right? Or should I downgrade to SPL 1.04 first?
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So youve unlocked the device and changed it to SuperCID. Good work.
Just run the latest AKU3.3 HTC rom (its at the top). You will get an updated radio version and the new AKU, remember to backup all your stuff and be prepared to reinstall all the settings/applications. As i said again, dont flash the rom unless you are sure you know what you are doing.
I should be good. I'm about to run it, once it finishes the download.
I just have 2 conerns...will the radio reception be any better, and 2 is it really that much better? I was looking for the "updates faq's", or what was included, but I didn't see anything.
Also the other thing, is not really a concern but more of it being tiedious, is re-entering all of the WAP, and MMS, settings...ballocks...oh well. Here goes...
hZSoul said:
I should be good. I'm about to run it, once it finishes the download.
I just have 2 conerns...will the radio reception be any better, and 2 is it really that much better? I was looking for the "updates faq's", or what was included, but I didn't see anything.
Also the other thing, is not really a concern but more of it being tiedious, is re-entering all of the WAP, and MMS, settings...ballocks...oh well. Here goes...
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If you are going to play with the TyTN like us people on here are (such as testing WM XDA-Live) you will get used to adding the MMS/GPRS settings.
There is a NOTICEABLE improvement in reception from radio version 1.27.00.00 onwards, the version in the HTC-AKU3.3 rom package is 1.34.10.00 so you SHOULD see a slight improvment. Stability is by far the best thing on that ROM.
I highly recommend downloading TCPMP and trying out some .avi files on it as it is the version with the ATi Imageon chip working as desired.
Since upgrading to radio 1.27 (and later to 1.35.00.11) the 3G reception of my TyTN has improved alot, such that i can get 3G reception downstairs where before i only got strong GSM.
Alright, the upgrade went smooth, now I just have to go and add in the MMS, and GPRS settings, so...I'll get around to that a little later.
So I have the latest ROM version, with the latest boot loader. I am a little dissapointed though. Even with the newest Radio version, it still does not pickup a signal as well as my Sony W810i did. Prehaps interference, from the bluetooth, or the Wi-Fi radios. However I don't even have those turned on. Hurm...
The OS runs alot smoother than the previous build. Now I just have to go in and tweak the settings. Everything else though seems to be nice.
About the radio. With my W810i, the signal was very strong, even when in the buildings on my college campus. However the reception from the TyTN, isn't as strong. This might end up being the breaking point...I'll keep testing it out, so we'll see.
As of right now though, I've full integrated my life into this device. I have my comlete daily schedule planned in with classes, meetings, ect. Today in class, rather than taking notes I was able to logon to the website, and download the powerpoint presentation that was being used, and used that for my notes. Gotta love having a campus that is 100% Wi-Fi.
Thanks for the help with the upgrade. I'm glad you stepped in otherwise I would have turned around and sold it, even though I've very happy with my TyTN, everything but the Radio problem though...
uh, "Latest" Boot Loader? You mean you put 1.09 on the phone? or are you talking about the RADIO bootloader? That you now have 0108?
If you put 1.09 on the phone you'll want to, IMHO, read about how to DOWNGRADE to Oli's 1.10.oli or 1.01MFG or 1.04 if you really want...
You should be able to do it with SSPL, but, I'd suggest you READ CAREFULLY this time.
Yeah its 1.09.
I'll take a look into what you just mentioned, and read up on it, now that I'm more familiar, and a little more secure with this. I was kind of worried, about flashing the rom, after reading alot of the "be careful...", or "at your own risk". So...
Obviously I will procceed with caution...
Any other pointed, tips would be appreciated. Thanks as always!
Hi everyone,
Just got my new 8525. No luck with it shipping with WM6 already. (I guess most of you figured that)
I have some more questions before I start messing with this. First, my current config:
HERM100 (ATT 8525)
IPL= 1.03
SPL= 1.11
When is booting from SR is says:
M 05
S 06
B 04
Radio 1.40.30.00
ROM 2.15.502.3
ROM Date 04/09/07
Protocol vs 32.73.7020.16H
I plan on using this on my ATT network and am not interested in using it anywhere other than on ATT for now so, no need to unlock SuperCID or anything like that now.
Desire: Install a BBC compliant WM6 with no BLOAT.
What I know from the Wiki and the forums:
I can install Hard-SPL and the new VPG3 Ver3 BBC Rom from VPG3. This seems to be a very stable, fast, clean ROM. Should I need to go back to bare bones stock, I read this thread and went to this site. The details are there and the step-by-step is clear and concise. I understand it and know that I can do this.
My question:
1) It says that I can revert back from HardSPL to either SPL 1.06 or 1.04 but, I have 1.11. How do I then revert back to what I have?
2) From what I understand, by reverting back to the 1.04 or 1.06, I have removed HardSPL so, in theory, I can just re-flash the OEM ROM, right? Or, is it not that simple?
3) If it is, will the OEM ROM then re-flash everything (Radio, OS, SPL, IPL, etc.)back to the OEM state prior to me mucking around with it?
4) Will my carrier be able to tell if I screwed with it?
I have done about 1 weeks worth of seaching and reading and learning before I decided to do anything. I am new to this somewhat but, I have flashed OEM ROMS before so I am comfortable. I also own an IMATE JAM that I have messed with too. The point is that I am trying to learn as much as I can on my own using existing info before bugging the community. Can never be too cautious.
I appreciate your help in advance.
Personally I would advise against it, as an 8525 owner. I've already kind of screwed mine up.
Here is what happened to mine. I installed an "official" build of wm6 on my phone after installing hardspl. The install worked fine but I found the software to be very buggy. I had to restart a lot. Then I installed a newer build. The install went ok but the software was even worse. Yesterday i tried reverting back to wm5, which i was able to do (after problems all day) but now I have all kinds of radio issues. Everything is factory on my phone except the radio version. I am going to try to send it in for warranty who knows how that will go though. If you look at the cingular forums it looks like wm6 will officially be available this month. I wouldn't risk voiding your warranty over getting a new os on your phone 2 weeks before you can officially do it. Also I might add there is not a huge difference between the 2 operating systems. comparing the 2 would be similar to comparing win95 to win 98, nothing groundbreaking
As to your questions:
I did have hardspl on my phone and was able to take it off. It took me down to 1.04. I have no clue what I had on it before, I'm assuming that may be correct though.
I haven't been able to downgrade my radio.
In theory you can reinstall the offical wm5 rom, but mine freezes at 12% when it tries to install the old radio.
While some people have had no problems, I have had a lot. From reading this board it seems hit and miss. Beware.
Thank you very much! I really just need something to run BlackBerry Connect. This, along with the elimination of the BLOAT is the only real reason I am considering this. I do appreciate your insight.
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Personally I would advise against it, as an 8525 owner. I've already kind of screwed mine up.
Here is what happened to mine. I installed an "official" build of wm6 on my phone after installing hardspl. The install worked fine but I found the software to be very buggy. I had to restart a lot. Then I installed a newer build. The install went ok but the software was even worse. Yesterday i tried reverting back to wm5, which i was able to do (after problems all day) but now I have all kinds of radio issues. Everything is factory on my phone except the radio version. I am going to try to send it in for warranty who knows how that will go though. If you look at the cingular forums it looks like wm6 will officially be available this month. I wouldn't risk voiding your warranty over getting a new os on your phone 2 weeks before you can officially do it. Also I might add there is not a huge difference between the 2 operating systems. comparing the 2 would be similar to comparing win95 to win 98, nothing groundbreaking
As to your questions:
I did have hardspl on my phone and was able to take it off. It took me down to 1.04. I have no clue what I had on it before, I'm assuming that may be correct though.
I haven't been able to downgrade my radio.
In theory you can reinstall the offical wm5 rom, but mine freezes at 12% when it tries to install the old radio.
While some people have had no problems, I have had a lot. From reading this board it seems hit and miss. Beware.
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Hello all, i have Qwest service
i recently attempted a Rom upgrade to dcd 3.0.1.
I unlocked with olipro 2.40
then i ran the sprint 3.35 rom upgrade
and lastly tried to load dcd's Rom
all went fine (thanks to the tireless efforts of xda and ppc geeks contributors) until i tried to load dcd's rom.
my download of dcd 3.0.1 was corrupt ( i have since figured out that if you improperly input the download letters, your download will be corrupted without letting you know- always verify the file size when complete)
Because of this i ended up letting the sprint customizations run.
I have since made the change from the sprint rom 3.25 to dcd's rom but apparently, the sprint customizations, that i let run have hosed my data ability.
searching leads me to believe the best/easiest way to fix my data problem- (no data at all) is to relock my phone and load the original radio and rom
thanks to Bunvilla at PPCGeeks, i have the rom (2.13) but no one seems to have the radio (1.39)
any assistance would be appreciated- all of us Qwest subscribers (which piggy backs on Sprints network) are having a very difficult time finding any help for our phones
Does anyone have a copy of the radio or know where to find one?
Does anyone know how to make a copy of the radio and/or rom from a non-upgraded phone?
Does anyone have any other ideas how to get my data working again?
I have searched and read nearly every post on both xda and ppc site, so thanks in advance to anyone who can assist me/us
chirodj5 said:
Hello all, i have Qwest service
i recently attempted a Rom upgrade to dcd 3.0.1.
I unlocked with olipro 2.40
then i ran the sprint 3.35 rom upgrade
and lastly tried to load dcd's Rom
all went fine (thanks to the tireless efforts of xda and ppc geeks contributors) until i tried to load dcd's rom.
my download of dcd 3.0.1 was corrupt ( i have since figured out that if you improperly input the download letters, your download will be corrupted without letting you know- always verify the file size when complete)
Because of this i ended up letting the sprint customizations run.
I have since made the change from the sprint rom 3.25 to dcd's rom but apparently, the sprint customizations, that i let run have hosed my data ability.
searching leads me to believe the best/easiest way to fix my data problem- (no data at all) is to relock my phone and load the original radio and rom
thanks to Bunvilla at PPCGeeks, i have the rom (2.13) but no one seems to have the radio (1.39)
any assistance would be appreciated- all of us Qwest subscribers (which piggy backs on Sprints network) are having a very difficult time finding any help for our phones
Does anyone have a copy of the radio or know where to find one?
Does anyone know how to make a copy of the radio and/or rom from a non-upgraded phone?
Does anyone have any other ideas how to get my data working again?
I have searched and read nearly every post on both xda and ppc site, so thanks in advance to anyone who can assist me/us
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so you know this is an issue it seems with all new roms with the new sprint radio. i don't have any Data connection on mine as of this point and even after re locking and unlocking again (5 times) i still don't have data. i game from 2.40 oli , Nexvison 2.3.1.02. VZW and 3.27 Radio. i get authentication problems when trying to access the National Data Network. "user name and password incorrect.
you do need to go back to a stock rom and compatible radio to get your data working before attempting the upgrade again.
however, this doesnt have to be radio 1.39.
either relock or change to olipro-1.20, flash your original stock rom, and flash radio 2.17. then you should be able to get your data working, although it may take a call to qwest.
i saw iota mentioned in the topic but not the post... qwest does not include IOTA in their ROM. sprint IOTA will only work for sprint.
Thanks for the reply DCD- and thanks again for all your hard work.
You mentioned to downgrade to my original ROM and load the compatible RADIO from 2.17.
-Does this mean the complete sprint RADIO and ROM 2.17 or just the RADIO portion?
- if it's just the radio portion, where would i find that ( i have searched endlessly, hence the delay in posting a reply) ?
-if it is the complete radio and ROM, am i supposed to flash my oem ROM 1st or flash it after the 2.17 radio and ROM (like we do to upgrade thru 3.35 to DCD 3.0.1) ?
- good to know qwest doesn't use IOTA, although i am curious what IOTA actually is
Obviously, anyone's help here is appreciated
well i might be able to come to your rescue again. I believe if u can load a ROM that lets u have access to the extrom, (read and write to it) i have the original content that came in the extrom for qwest. the sprint upgrade rewrites over the qwest stuff and puts in the sprint stuff. i know i have the contents of the extrom for qwest but im gonna look here in my computer because i just might have the iota for qwest. otherwise i dont know why im hanging on to this 1 IOTA in my "qwest phone folder"
ill post the contents in a second post have to upload to rapidshare
ok i hope these work for u;
http://rapidshare.com/files/104457472/QWEST_2.13_extrom.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/104457828/qwest_IOTA.rar
u can use 1.47 radio instead of 1.39, it doesnt matter which radio u use between the 2, 1.47 is better anyways.
u just have to load a rom that allows u to unhide and write to the extrom/ dcd 3.01 and his other version can be done but u have to know how to manipulate it, otherwise DCD roms have the extrom hidden and he removed some reg entries
and stuff so u probably want to use no2chem rom or something/ then dump the qwest2.13 extrom into the extrom and see what happens/ but this is what was in my qwest rom extrom before i cleared it.
good luck
Well , i'm not exactly sure what to do with this information you have given me, but i will root around these forums so more and see if i can't make sense of it.
unless someone else decides to chime in
thanks again, Bunvilla
i came home for lunch and my buddy just bought a qwest mogul/ i loaded the unlocker 240 / next and it is where i think u went wrong is that u need to load the radio 3.35 FIRST then the rom/ cause i next loaded radio 3.35 and then a DCD custom 3.01 Rom with a whoppin 29mbs of memory free after installation/
i was done in 30min/ I did however have to get the SPC code to get into the NAM settings because it changed his MIN to something else/ it took 5min to get spc code and then a few min to correctly add his MIN and the right security format for the data connection/ everything went smooth and i made back to work with almost 10 min left on my lunch hour/
by the way i would get a message saying that" the account was not authorized to call that number" and then quote off some code/ but when i changed the NAM settings back it was good to go
I saw something here about this from azclown and really want to know if it is true.
After flashing nueSPL is it possible to downgrade to other bootloaders?
I tried to run unlocker (Olipro 1.20) and it wouldn't connect right. Do I need to use relocker then load 1.20 then load stock rom. I am testing this out for another phone right now and am a little curious why this would be created so that no other bootloaders could be reloaded.
What I am realizing is that this bootloader is not such a good idea for Verizon users, being that they will not be able to revert to the stock rom (as Verizon has not released a GPS Rom yet).
Am I right here?
serfboreds said:
I saw something here about this from azclown and really want to know if it is true.
After flashing nueSPL is it possible to downgrade to other bootloaders?
I tried to run unlocker (Olipro 1.20) and it wouldn't connect right. Do I need to use relocker then load 1.20 then load stock rom. I am testing this out for another phone right now and am a little curious why this would be created so that no other bootloaders could be reloaded.
What I am realizing is that this bootloader is not such a good idea for Verizon users, being that they will not be able to revert to the stock rom (as Verizon has not released a GPS Rom yet).
Am I right here?
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um, DO NOT attempt to DOWNGRADE your SPL unless you want a permanent brick.
reasoning:
ALL ATTEMPTS whatsoever to downgrade the radio to a pre-GPS radio have F-A-I-L-E-D. They have all resulted in BROKEN BRICKED IRREPARABLE devices.
1.xx SPLS are not (at least that i'm aware of, compatible with GPS radios)
therefore, you cannot downgrade your radio to 1.xx.
You can downgrade to olipro-2.40, but thats pretty much it. Unless your device is SuperCID, i would NOT ADVISE locking your device, because you will only be able to download updates signed by VZW, and as we all know - there are none.
If warranty is a concern,... it would be better to turn in a complete brick than a partial brick. flash a modified VZW OS Only with proper OEMDRIVERS, then run my relocker and lock the SPL down, then warranty it. /... I wouldn't suggest this for anything else, because in case of a bad OS flash, you'd be pretty screwed...
Thanks for chiming in on this no2chem, there's a lot of good information in that post!
no2chem said:
um, DO NOT attempt to DOWNGRADE your SPL unless you want a permanent brick.
reasoning:
ALL ATTEMPTS whatsoever to downgrade the radio to a pre-GPS radio have F-A-I-L-E-D. They have all resulted in BROKEN BRICKED IRREPARABLE devices.
1.xx SPLS are not (at least that i'm aware of, compatible with GPS radios)
therefore, you cannot downgrade your radio to 1.xx.
You can downgrade to olipro-2.40, but thats pretty much it. Unless your device is SuperCID, i would NOT ADVISE locking your device, because you will only be able to download updates signed by VZW, and as we all know - there are none.
If warranty is a concern,... it would be better to turn in a complete brick than a partial brick. flash a modified VZW OS Only with proper OEMDRIVERS, then run my relocker and lock the SPL down, then warranty it. /... I wouldn't suggest this for anything else, because in case of a bad OS flash, you'd be pretty screwed...
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True, I see your point about returning a complete brick. The rest is fine I guess.
Thanks!
no2chem said:
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ALL ATTEMPTS whatsoever to downgrade the radio to a pre-GPS radio have F-A-I-L-E-D. They have all resulted in BROKEN BRICKED IRREPARABLE devices.
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now, by that do you mean they werere were bricked by downgrading the radio with nueSPL previously (or currently) loaded on the device, or downgrading the radio on a device that never had nueSPL loaded on it?
the only reason i ask this is because ive done several radio downgrades from olipro 2.4 to 1.2 to the stock radio/ROMs for refurbishment and ive never had a problem. i dont use the stock SPL because theres no tech around here smart enough to check it.
no2chem said:
um, DO NOT attempt to DOWNGRADE your SPL unless you want a permanent brick.
reasoning:
ALL ATTEMPTS whatsoever to downgrade the radio to a pre-GPS radio have F-A-I-L-E-D. They have all resulted in BROKEN BRICKED IRREPARABLE devices.
1.xx SPLS are not (at least that i'm aware of, compatible with GPS radios)
therefore, you cannot downgrade your radio to 1.xx.
You can downgrade to olipro-2.40, but thats pretty much it. Unless your device is SuperCID, i would NOT ADVISE locking your device, because you will only be able to download updates signed by VZW, and as we all know - there are none.
If warranty is a concern,... it would be better to turn in a complete brick than a partial brick. flash a modified VZW OS Only with proper OEMDRIVERS, then run my relocker and lock the SPL down, then warranty it. /... I wouldn't suggest this for anything else, because in case of a bad OS flash, you'd be pretty screwed...
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No2chem.. I think I am an exception or my XV6800 must be special because I actually messed up my phone because i wanted the new Radio 3.42.02 but couldn't get my Phone to Flash From SD.. So I had to flash a sprint 3.56 ROM to get the Radio and then flashed Verizon kitchen before Sprint customization started.. but for some weird reason.. Sprint customization still ran after i flash the Verizon ROM.. My EPST Settings were all Sprint.. lols..
These are the steps I took to bring it back..
1. Ran Titan_Relocker to relock SPL from version 2.40 Olipro
2. Flashed Stock Verizon ROM and let Verizon Customization run
3. Unlock using NueSPL2.47 letting it format my SD card to enable Flashing from SD [Thank GOD you added this feature]
4. Placed the new Radio 3.42.30 onto my SD card and enter Bootloader and Flashed it [Thanks to You]
5. then flashed my Verizon kitchen.. All with no problem..
I've discussed this method with some of the guys over at PPCKitchen.org and they were concerned about me bricking my phone.. but I said oh what the heck.. my phone is already messed up..
every one was supprised that it worked.. lol.. I must be one of the lucky few..
b16daddy said:
No2chem.. I think I am an exception or my XV6800 must be special because I actually messed up my phone because i wanted the new Radio 3.42.02 but couldn't get my Phone to Flash From SD.. So I had to flash a sprint 3.56 ROM to get the Radio and then flashed Verizon kitchen before Sprint customization started.. but for some weird reason.. Sprint customization still ran after i flash the Verizon ROM.. My EPST Settings were all Sprint.. lols..
These are the steps I took to bring it back..
1. Ran Titan_Relocker to relock SPL from version 2.40 Olipro
2. Flashed Stock Verizon ROM and let Verizon Customization run
3. Unlock using NueSPL2.47 letting it format my SD card to enable Flashing from SD [Thank GOD you added this feature]
4. Placed the new Radio 3.42.30 onto my SD card and enter Bootloader and Flashed it [Thanks to You]
5. then flashed my Verizon kitchen.. All with no problem..
I've discussed this method with some of the guys over at PPCKitchen.org and they were concerned about me bricking my phone.. but I said oh what the heck.. my phone is already messed up..
every one was supprised that it worked.. lol.. I must be one of the lucky few..
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weird. what were you running before step 1?
the problem seems to manifest itself when you take a GPS radio, and flash a 2.xx RADIO onto it. When you flashed the verizon stock rom, are you sure you had the 2.xx radio on it?
the reason everyone was concerned about your phone though, was because there were several bricks produced by downgrading radios - ask ImCokeMan, he'll tell you..
no2chem said:
weird. what were you running before step 1?
the problem seems to manifest itself when you take a GPS radio, and flash a 2.xx RADIO onto it. When you flashed the verizon stock rom, are you sure you had the 2.xx radio on it?
the reason everyone was concerned about your phone though, was because there were several bricks produced by downgrading radios - ask ImCokeMan, he'll tell you..
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I didn't quite understand your question..
"When you flashed the verizon stock rom, are you sure you had the 2.xx radio on it?"
When I ran Titan_Relocker.. it installed version 1.06..
Before the Sprint radio upgrade I had...
Hard SPL2.40 Olipro
Radio 3.39.10
No2chem wm6.1 5067 Kitchen
I have also went from a GPS radio to the stock verizon radio/rom a few times because of accidentally letting sprint customizations run.
i am not 100% sure if i had the stock radio on my phone. however it worked with stock verizon rom and phone/ data/ text all worked in stock verizon rom/radio.... so i assume it was the correct radio since it worked with the stock rom...?
EDIT: i do believe i had verizon 1.3 radio on my phone after flashing back from a GPS radio
also i remember reading somewhere that if you do flash back to a stock radio/ rom that it might say stock radio but it will still have components of the gps radio's... i think i read it at ppcgeeks
aguas said:
ive done several radio downgrades from olipro 2.4 to 1.2 to the stock radio/ROMs for refurbishment and ive never had a problem. i dont use the stock SPL because theres no tech around here smart enough to check it.
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i also have downgraded radio from 3.xx to 1.xx without any problems.
I flashed back to non gps as well. I was having bad experiences with dcd's 2.x so I went to his 1.7. No issues flashing at all.
I have also downgraded to 2 different phones from GPS radios to NON-GPS radios.... Verizons stock radio is 1.30, not a 2.x radio, so that may be the issue for some other folks on different carriers.... It may be an incompatibility with 2.x radios and GPS radios.... I have a folder on my desktop that has all the files necessary AND the instructions clearly written out on how to downgrade..... It has saved my butt 2 times now....
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I have also downgraded to 2 different phones from GPS radios to NON-GPS radios.... Verizons stock radio is 1.30, not a 2.x radio, so that may be the issue for some other folks on different carriers.... It may be an incompatibility with 2.x radios and GPS radios.... I have a folder on my desktop that has all the files necessary AND the instructions clearly written out on how to downgrade..... It has saved my butt 2 times now....
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hmm, it might actually be an issue with 2.X radios. I'll do a little bit of research on this one.
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hmm, it might actually be an issue with 2.X radios. I'll do a little bit of research on this one.
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the radio i downgraded to was 1.59
no2chem said:
um, DO NOT attempt to DOWNGRADE your SPL unless you want a permanent brick.
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Ya I used to switch from gps to nongps all the time back when the original leaked radio was the only one out... I also converted my last phone (sent in for broken button) back to complete stock vzw (locked and all) as well....
I haven't tried doing any downgrading after installing nueSPL though... are you indicating this is a probelm after flashing nueSPL? Your post has me a 'lil scared now but I'll wait for followups before I attempt anything.. no plans to go back to nongps anyways, though... the new radios seem to have the bugs worked out.
Zenoran said:
Ya I used to switch from gps to nongps all the time back when the original leaked radio was the only one out... I also converted my last phone (sent in for broken button) back to complete stock vzw (locked and all) as well....
I haven't tried doing any downgrading after installing nueSPL though... are you indicating this is a probelm after flashing nueSPL? Your post has me a 'lil scared now but I'll wait for followups before I attempt anything.. no plans to go back to nongps anyways, though... the new radios seem to have the bugs worked out.
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Only No2chem knows for sure, but after reading his post again I think he's saying you can downgrade to Ollipro 2.4, if thats the case then one should be able to downgrade back to stock as well....
I think no2 is onto something here. I am on VZW also and have gone back to stock from a 3.xx gps radio --> stock 1.30 radio.
I have a feeling that for once we may be glad that verizon never does any updates - they still use 1.30 radio - and that may be the common thread in all our (vzw) success at going back to non gps.
I'd say that I was onto this before him.... He just knows how to verify it...
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I'd say that I was onto this before him.... He just knows how to verify it...
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and i would agree with you!
Speaking of the man himself ^^^^ .. I would note that you had all the data, I just thought it was odd that anyone who tried to go back to a 2.X radio would brick it, while us verizon folks would go back to 1.X and have no issues....
O.K. flashing my XV6800 with the official rom recently released was the first time I flashed anything. I am now serously considering reflashing to the new DCD rom to get the GPS functional. I realize I need to flash the radio as well, but other than that I'm flying blind. I have read through the wiki and think I can do this following a decent guide.
My question is, can I follow any of the guides out there, or do I need to take special steps now that I've flashed the new VZW rom? I've found a each flashing guides that I think I can follow, but would appreciate links for noob-oriented flashing guides.
You will have to take the PRI back 1.37_002 using the RadioRefresh.cab. The "official" update changed it to not allow 3rd party GPS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421275
Is there any confirmation that this actually works for someone who has gone from the original Verizon xv6800 firmware to the MR1 firmware, without having done any other flashing that might have written values into the radio EEPROM/flash that we don't have visibility into? [I suspect this latter point is probably the source of the confusion of various tricks working for some people and not others.]
There seems to be quite a bit of confusion as to what restores the PRI and what doesn't, and whether the PRI is actually the thing that definitively controls the enablement or disablement of the standard GPS API, or whether simply something else that happens along with the PRI update might be responsible.
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You will have to take the PRI back 1.37_002 using the RadioRefresh.cab. The "official" update changed it to not allow 3rd party GPS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421275
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i dont think were 100% sure of that yet. it may work using Hard-SPL 2.47
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Is there any confirmation that this actually works for someone who has gone from the original Verizon xv6800 firmware to the MR1 firmware, without having done any other flashing that might have written values into the radio EEPROM/flash that we don't have visibility into? [I suspect this latter point is probably the source of the confusion of various tricks working for some people and not others.]
There seems to be quite a bit of confusion as to what restores the PRI and what doesn't, and whether the PRI is actually the thing that definitively controls the enablement or disablement of the standard GPS API, or whether simply something else that happens along with the PRI update might be responsible.
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if you want to be a guinea pig, you can try spl 2.47 and a custom ROM. see if GPS works. im looking for the threads on this.
you can always revert to the MR1 firmware if you wish.
I've considered it, but I don't think that I want to be taking the first big step there as I don't have any extra phone aside from the xv6800, and hosing that would be a PITA.
Presently focusing on seeing if I can convince LBSDriver to return useful data with the MR1 firmware, though I'd be interested if anyone can corrobate a known working procedure for a phone that has had no custom firmwares/radios aside from the original Verizon release -> Verizon MR1 release.
To flash or not
Am I correct in assuming that if I do decide to flash, but don't like the results that I can just run the MR1 update again to get back to stock? I have read where others have said that they flash the MR1 without re-locking.
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i dont think were 100% sure of that yet. it may work using Hard-SPL 2.47
if you want to be a guinea pig, you can try spl 2.47 and a custom ROM. see if GPS works. im looking for the threads on this.
you can always revert to the MR1 firmware if you wish.
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DCD I am running 2.47 SPL on my verizon 6800. What do you want me to be the guinea pig on? I am not great at this stuff, but willing to help if I can.
God knows you have helped me a lot with your rom's.
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You will have to take the PRI back 1.37_002 using the RadioRefresh.cab. The "official" update changed it to not allow 3rd party GPS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421275
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As DCD said, going back to PRI 1.35 was not necessary for me. I still have the NEW PRI 2.03_002 on my XV6800 and I can use GPS just as I did before.... Now here's what I did....
I went from DCD 3.12 --> NEW VZW upgrade. GPS didn't work so I flashed back to "stock-non-GPS rom) Then flashed the 2.47 No2chem SPL, then flashed radio 3.42.30 using SD card, and then finally DCD 3.15. No I didn't actually check then, but I did 3 days ago, and I have PRI 2.03_002 on my phone but GPS has been working just fine..... So take that for whats it's worth, but there have been a few others who have also had success using GPS even with the new GPS on the phone....
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As DCD said, going back to PRI 1.35 was not necessary for me. I still have the NEW PRI 2.03_002 on my XV6800 and I can use GPS just as I did before.... Now here's what I did....
I went from DCD 3.12 --> NEW VZW upgrade. GPS didn't work so I flashed back to "stock-non-GPS rom) Then flashed the 2.47 No2chem SPL, then flashed radio 3.42.30 using SD card, and then finally DCD 3.15. No I didn't actually check then, but I did 3 days ago, and I have PRI 2.03_002 on my phone but GPS has been working just fine..... So take that for whats it's worth, but there have been a few others who have also had success using GPS even with the new GPS on the phone....
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but your aGPS is still locked to VZNav i assume. any real benefit that you see of being on the new PRI?
WOW - GPS on the VZW 6800 that works!!!
This took about 2 hours to get done but right now it seems to be worth every minute.
I've tried all of the fixes, some kinda silly - felt like I was being told to sling a cat over my head in the front yard.
BUT THIS ONE GETS LOCKS AS FAST AS MY SPRINT TOUCH!!!!!
I am using 3.2.6 and the 3.42.4 radio after following the above (I have kept the new PRI).
I thought I was getting something wrong. Then I tried the GPS 5 miles apart, rebooted, tried again - same results 5 or 6 sat lock in less than 30 seconds.
I'll continue to monitor in the next couple of days and report any change. But darn - WOW!!
Finally flashed
Well I finally flashed to the DCD rom and radio today. I flashed radio 3.42.50 and DCD 3.2.6. I finally decided to flash for the GPS, but I guess that isn't gonna happen since I had previously flash the VZW MR1 update to a stock phone. I went through the titan gps fix and everything went as the wiki said it should. But I have no working gps. I assume this is because of the 2.03_002 PRI without ever having flashed before.
I've read quite a few gps threads and I think all my settings are ok, but I can't seem to get it working. Any ideas?
BENLANE, just to I understand... you upgraded to the new official VZW ROM, and then changed to DCD 3.2.6 and radio 3.40? What bootloader are you using?
Are you sure this was not a placebo?
As sure as I can be
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BENLANE, just to I understand... you upgraded to the new official VZW ROM, and then changed to DCD 3.2.6 and radio 3.40? What bootloader are you using?
Are you sure this was not a placebo?
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I don't know how else to test but I've tried to make it fail - soft resets, moved around 5 miles etc. I tried it again a few minutes ago - almost instant using Live Search.
I follow all of the directions included in the post #8. Then I used DCDs 3.2.6 and the 3.42.4 radio.
Regedit
Before I follow the instruction in post #8 and re-flash, are there any registy entries that I should check that could be disabling my gps right now?
Don't think registry edits do it
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Before I follow the instruction in post #8 and re-flash, are there any registy entries that I should check that could be disabling my gps right now?
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Like I said above, I've done virtually everything short of slinging a cat above my head in the front yard. I've tried 'em all. The registry edits, the 3 additional files, use of the GPS toggle, etc etc. It always lead me to believe that whatever was needed was on Verizon's end. With the PRIs, I believe we have it.
Based on past experiences, this may not work tomorrow but for today - COOL RUNNINGS.
So simple answer, I don't think a registry edit will get it. I believe it is a combination of the PRIs, the unlocker, the radio and most of all the terrific ROM from DCD. He's the real deal.
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So simple answer, I don't think a registry edit will get it. I believe it is a combination of the PRIs, the unlocker, the radio and most of all the terrific ROM from DCD. He's the real deal.
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I loaded the spl 2.47 and flashed the 3.42.40 radio, can I just reflash the dcd 3.2.6 (which I'm currenly using) or should I flash a differnet OS version?
Sorry for all the noob questions, I just really want the GPS working, and I'm lazy to boot.
I'm really starting to wonder if I'm gonna be able to get it working. I think my situation is different than most on this forum. I went from stock to the MR1 update, to the DCD rom and radio. I don't think I've read any posts where anyone took that path and got GPS working.
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I'm really starting to wonder if I'm gonna be able to get it working. I think my situation is different than most on this forum. I went from stock to the MR1 update, to the DCD rom and radio. I don't think I've read any posts where anyone took that path and got GPS working.
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I havent read all the posts in this thread but it sounds like you locked out GPS functionality when going from the MR1 update to a custom rom. When you upgraded with the MR1 update, you installed a new version of the PRI. It appears that this version locks out GPS functionality, even with a custom rom.
You might want to check out gc's thread from hell for more info on this and how to go about getting back the old PRI. Its time consuming but works. There are supposedly other methods but not many have had success with them.
You've misunderstood
animez said:
I loaded the spl 2.47 and flashed the 3.42.40 radio, can I just reflash the dcd 3.2.6 (which I'm currenly using) or should I flash a differnet OS version?
Sorry for all the noob questions, I just really want the GPS working, and I'm lazy to boot.
I'm really starting to wonder if I'm gonna be able to get it working. I think my situation is different than most on this forum. I went from stock to the MR1 update, to the DCD rom and radio. I don't think I've read any posts where anyone took that path and got GPS working.
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I did all of the above intentional to have the new pri on my phone.
Update on locks - still getting them fast, but they have slowed to an occasional lock in about 2.5 minutes.
GPS is working
Well my GPS works great now, all thanks to this thread.
Bad link animez...