Series of Unfortunate upgrades... - P4000 - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

Great and wonderful gurus...I think I dug myself into it. I was hoping my first post here would one with better news...but alas I am calling on your help.
I own a Telus P4000 (TITA100) and was keen on trying out dcd's new ROM. I did the following in the following order and now I have some unfortunate results.
1. Upgraded bootloader to 2.40 using USB instructions here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanRecentHome
2. Thought 'what the heck' and tried upgrading to bootloader 2.47 using the microSD instructions at the same address.
3. Upgraded the Radio to 3.42.50.
4. A reboot brought me to the Telus screen so I thought I had done something wrong.
5. I reverted back to Radio version 1.40
6. I reverted the bootloader to 2.07 using the instructions here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=TitanStockHome
7. I reflashed the stock Telus ROM.
8. Results are now that I cannot make any outgoing calls or data connections
(automated voice says I need to activate my phone) and my power key does not turn the device back on once it goes into 'hibernate' mode.
I am really hoping someone can help me out. I've been searching for hours to find the original Radio (1.32) and the original bootloader (1.04) so I can put things back to the way they were but I can't find anything.
Any help is well appreciated,
Ry
PS - Update - I tried the other method of reverting back to stock (via USB) and now the bootloader is 1.04 and the Radio is 1.32. BIG Steps in the right direction....
Okay...so most of the issues seem to have been resolved and I'll call Telus to re-activate my phone tomorrow but there is one remaining question:
Did I do anything wrong here and how can I continue on my quest to give this another whirl?
(I debated not posting at all...but I figure my conundrums may help someone else later)

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For you Telus users...found the last link...programming. I completely forgot about this and thank goodness I stumbled across this link thus making me feel completely stupid but nonetheless satisfied....
http://taiu.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/updating-my-telus-p4000/
I think I'm going to bed now...

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I'm glad you got it to work. I just had to mention that I thought your title was vey clever

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Inescapbl said:
(automated voice says I need to activate my phone)
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Keep in mind, at least on Verizon, when upgrading your radio from a non-GPS radio to a GPS radio, the phone will require re-authentication. The A-Key will have to be given by your provider. When I called, I basically told them I had to do a hard reset. The tech on the other end said that every time I do a hard reset, I need a new A-key. NOT!(idiot)...

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nitro66215 said:
Keep in mind, at least on Verizon, when upgrading your radio from a non-GPS radio to a GPS radio, the phone will require re-authentication. The A-Key will have to be given by your provider. When I called, I basically told them I had to do a hard reset. The tech on the other end said that every time I do a hard reset, I need a new A-key. NOT!(idiot)...
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Actually, I've only needed a new A-Key once, and that was when I hard reset my device. However, when I got my phone, I upgraded the stuff before activating.
So yes, hard-resetting does (sometimes/always?) causes you to need a new A-Key.
And even then, I didn't call in; I did the whole online "activate another phone, then reactivate the 6800" trick to avoid dealing with terrible CS

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nitro66215 said:
Keep in mind, at least on Verizon, when upgrading your radio from a non-GPS radio to a GPS radio, the phone will require re-authentication. The A-Key will have to be given by your provider. When I called, I basically told them I had to do a hard reset. The tech on the other end said that every time I do a hard reset, I need a new A-key. NOT!(idiot)...
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I don't know if this A-key thing is true anymore. On my original phone I had to do an A-Key update twice. And both times was when I upgraded the Radio. After a while I stopped having to do them.
Yesterday I got a replacement 6800 (old one had bad charging port). I activated it got it working, and immediately put on SPL 2.47, radio 3.5.42 and DCD 3.2.5 (in that order)
I DID NOT have to call verizon for an A-key update.

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Inescapbl said:
For you Telus users...found the last link...programming. I completely forgot about this and thank goodness I stumbled across this link thus making me feel completely stupid but nonetheless satisfied....
http://taiu.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/updating-my-telus-p4000/
I think I'm going to bed now...
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Also take a look at some P4000 instructions I posted here.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1413430&page=1&pp=15

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I have never had a problem flashing my P4000 except for when I used a Sprint ROM to get an updated radio and let the customizations run. This made it so that I could not send text messages but everything else worked fine.
Here's how I fixed it:
- used the relocker to relock the phone and restore the original bootloader
- flash with stock Telus ROM
- change to 2.40 bootloader
- flash radio (didn't use the Sprint ROM this time, used SD card method instead)
- flash DCD ROM
- run Telus carrier cab
Since then I have updated to 2.47 bootloader, updated to DCD3.2.5, went to a lower version of the radio because I was having signal issues, and then just recently went to the latest radio version. I haven't had any problems other than that one I just mentioned above.
Even when you flash with DCD's ROMs the Telus splash screen will still come up as this is not overwritten by the ROM. This will only change if you use a flasher to change it or flash with another carrier's ROM (like Sprint for example).

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Without a major scew-up, you should not have had to activate your phone on Telus after unlocking and a ROM update. I've never such an issue nor anyone else I know.
1. Upgraded bootloader to 2.40 using USB instructions here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...itanRecentHome
2. Thought 'what the heck' and tried upgrading to bootloader 2.47 using the microSD instructions at the same address.
3. Upgraded the Radio to 3.42.50.
4. A reboot brought me to the Telus screen so I thought I had done something wrong.
5. I reverted back to Radio version 1.40
6. I reverted the bootloader to 2.07 using the instructions here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...TitanStockHome
7. I reflashed the stock Telus ROM.
8. Results are now that I cannot make any outgoing calls or data connections
(automated voice says I need to activate my phone) and my power key does not turn the device back on once it goes into 'hibernate' mode.
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Inescabl, in all of those steps you failed to say when and where you upgraded to a third party ROM.... Within the first two I already see a point of concern where you stated you unlocked to 2.40 and then your next step being, ''what the heck' and tried upgrading to bootloader 2.47 using the microSD instructions. How did you get into the OS? Were you still on the stock radio and ROM?? You then stated that you flashed to the latest radio, but of course a reboot would only bring you to be stuck on the Telus screen if you'd not bothered to also flash to an appropriate ROM.
From what you've described, you decided to go a bit your own way, and did not pay close enough attention to the stated steps and problem solving that I wrote in the Wiki.
I'm glad that it all worked out for you, but this should be a warning to others to not rush into things without first being clear upon what the Wiki's guides and troubleshooting offer.

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Keystone,
Correct. I should have used the phrase 'reprogram' by dialing *22803 for Telus users after you reflash your phone. 'Re-activate' was the wrong term.
Second, you are also correct in that my steps failed to say that I upgraded to a third party ROM and that was what I missed. On my second attempt I did upgrade to the third party ROM and all systems are now 'go'.
Third, when I said 'what the heck' I meant that since I had successfully upgraded the bootloader to 2.40 using USB I thought I'd try upgrading to 2.47 using the MicroSD method. You don't need to go into the OS to do that but merely need to get back into the bootloader screen by pressing POWER-CAMERA-SOFT RESET.
The difficulty I had resulted from the fact that the wiki is not clear that in order to install the latest ROM you need to be connected to the phone via USB and on the bootloader screen on your phone. This is where I was slightly confused and didn't understand where to go next. Perhaps you could update your instructions a little? It's funny how one person can read something and think one thing and another can read it and not see what you were thinking!
One final note. With respect to these statement: "You then stated that you flashed to the latest radio, but of course a reboot would only bring you to be stuck on the Telus screen if you'd not bothered to also flash to an appropriate ROM.From what you've described, you decided to go a bit your own way, and did not pay close enough attention to the stated steps and problem solving that I wrote in the Wiki.I'm glad that it all worked out for you, but this should be a warning to others to not rush into things without first being clear upon what the Wiki's guides and troubleshooting offer.
Though I appreciate your response I didn't really care for this final note where you took the opportunity to jab at my personal character. I did take the time and did pay attention and did not 'go my own way'. There was just that one step that I mentioned that was confusing. My post was not a personal affront to your wiki and I do appreciate it as do many others. Instead this is perhaps an opportunity to make your wiki even better!
Thanks,
Ry
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unL33T,
Thanks! That's a great nutshell version for the upgrade.
Ry

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Inescapbl said:
Though I appreciate your response I didn't really care for this final note where you took the opportunity to jab at my personal character.
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I never did anything of the sort! Please, have better respect for other members here and take better care in what you read:
Keystone said:
From what you've described, you decided to go a bit your own way, and did not pay close enough attention to the stated steps and problem solving that I wrote in the Wiki.
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I was not sure what you had presented in the OP and was trying to clarify what had occurred to cause your problems. In many such threads newer people will read and get confused, and that is why I prefer to get to the bottom and then use that information to help prevent such mishaps occurring again. As what I concluded was apparently spot on, then, dude, politely recognising what was - was certainly no comment in-any-shape-nor form upon your character. Smile.
The Wiki instructions are attempting to cover nearly all of the bases to best serve the most people and likely problems. There is no single way to flash and there are numerous roadblocks that may occur. Having a simple and linear guide may be nice, but I strongly feel that it leads to rushed and relatively uninformed short-cuts where one error or another problem can leave one stuck and confused.

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Keystone,
Glad to know it was just a misunderstanding. And to clarify, at no time have I disrespected you or the other fine members of this forum who use their spare time to have some fun with their hobby.
Also for the record, you did not conclude spot on unfortunately as it was not my rushing through the instructions that caused the issue but rather the fact that there is a certain amount of extrapolation required from your instructions to get everything working correctly.
Thanks again for all your help as I do appreciate it.

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You're, welcome.