If I get a Mogul that is flashed for Cricket, can I flash it to work on Verizon?
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I don't see why not, as long as Verizon allows the ESN on it's network.
Basically:
Use the Titan Relocker and Flash back to a Verizon Stock ROM, letting customizations run.
Try to get everything working at this point (data/calling/etc)
Then do your normal upgrade procedure (see my signature's tutorial if you need help)
i am doing this right now with a altell phone. i can tell you its a PITA and verizon will NOT push the ESN through on there system via a store or by calling tech support. i have had to send my phone to verizon to have it flashed to there software and have them push the ESN through. i did everything in my power to get them to just push the ESN and they refused. once you get the phone, you will need to take it to the service dept of an actual verizon store and they will have you fill out a form and then they will ship it out to have the work done. i was told by tech support that it takes 3 weeks give or take.
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i am doing this right now with a altell phone. i can tell you its a PITA and verizon will NOT push the ESN through on there system via a store or by calling tech support. i have had to send my phone to verizon to have it flashed to there software and have them push the ESN through. i did everything in my power to get them to just push the ESN and they refused. once you get the phone, you will need to take it to the service dept of an actual verizon store and they will have you fill out a form and then they will ship it out to have the work done. i was told by tech support that it takes 3 weeks give or take.
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damn that is crazy........Verizon sucks bc of stupid stuff like that.
update. well after having my 6800 for a month i finanlly get a call stating "we were unable to add your phone because its not on out list." what a crock. gonna try something else then give up.
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Ok... I bought a sprint phone off of a fellow Forum person... not naming... LOL... and now have it reprogrammed. First... I got it set to the latest sprint rom / radio / bootloader just to verify operation. Then, I reflashed it all to the latest Verizon stuff, to include loading the PRL 51020 so that when I dial *228 it actually says Verizon wireless.
Here's the dilemna, First... the CS rep said that it wasn't possible to get a Sprint phone on Verizon. I told her otherwise from my knowledge online. She got Tech Support on the line. I told him the exact things I did... reprogramming the phone and all. He said that's fine, but in order to get it on Verizon's network... meaning clear the ESN and EMIE... I would have to send it off and they would clean the phone and get it on their network.
From anybodies experience... Is this true? Or am I missing something.
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Ok... I bought a sprint phone off of a fellow Forum person... not naming... LOL... and now have it reprogrammed. First... I got it set to the latest sprint rom / radio / bootloader just to verify operation. Then, I reflashed it all to the latest Verizon stuff, to include loading the PRL 51020 so that when I dial *228 it actually says Verizon wireless.
Here's the dilemna, First... the CS rep said that it wasn't possible to get a Sprint phone on Verizon. I told her otherwise from my knowledge online. She got Tech Support on the line. I told him the exact things I did... reprogramming the phone and all. He said that's fine, but in order to get it on Verizon's network... meaning clear the ESN and EMIE... I would have to send it off and they would clean the phone and get it on their network.
From anybodies experience... Is this true? Or am I missing something.
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If the ESN is bad then no one will allow it on their network but I would assume that you should be able to tell the support people that you want to change phones and give them the new ESN and they should just put it in there system, then you will be able to dial *228. There are also phone repair places that also have access to do the switch as well. I did a phone on Cricket that way.
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If the ESN is bad then no one will allow it on their network but I would assume that you should be able to tell the support people that you want to change phones and give them the new ESN and they should just put it in there system, then you will be able to dial *228. There are also phone repair places that also have access to do the switch as well. I did a phone on Cricket that way.
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That was tried already. Because the ESN isn't from a Verizon phone, the system rejected the phone. That's why the tech support guy said to bring the phone in and have them send it away to make sure it's good for the network.
Do it yourself
You can manage your account online and enter the ESN yourself. The actually have an option for phones sourced other than Verizon.
I have never tried it, but it removes the useless support people from the mix.
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Yes it can be done. i have an alltel ppc6800 on vzw. the easiest way to do it is from the vzw website esn switch or activate equipment. There are some other steps you have to take to get the software loaded, not the stock rom. Then you will have to call vzw and have them reset your DMU key. Thats key to getting data to work.... start here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20090
or send you phone in:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24855
Oh and you'll have to change the SPC code since it's a sprint phone. need to get that to a 000000, again the first post will help with that.
If you have questions send me a PM.
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I tried to add ALLTEL PPC6800, Wasted 2 Days
Unfortunately, I had the exact opposite experience as the previous poster. I got a brand new ALLTEL PPC 6800 off Ebay. Did the flashing and the preparation and the phone was ready for VZW. Started off with call to regular support 1800-924-0204 to get the ball rolling. I knew they would be worthless but you need start somewhere. The gentleman tried to load it, said it came back as a NON VZW ESN and nothing he could do. I then asked , and got, Tier 3 Support. I told the gentleman the situation. He stated, " I have tried before and gotten nowhere.But I will try again" He tried and he got exactly where he stated, nowhere. He said he did not have the ability and asked his superiors and they did not have the ability. This subject was bounced around the support / switch room for about an hour.
Finally everyone gave up and said I could try submitting it for the Non VZW Equipment program (discussed in several threads here and elsewhere) or I could try going to a corporate store so the Manager could see the phone and then maybe he could call and get the phone added. The main problem they stated (I heard this several places BTW) is that the ALLTEL PPC6800 is not approved as a DATA device from ALLTEL. They have a list and Memo that states what ALLTEL devices are approved and that they can add to the system and the PPC6800 is not approved. It is not just omitted, it states the PPC6800 is not approved for use on VZW.
Here is the deal, I can only assume that it can be done as others state they have done it. Like many things when dealing with Wireless, what one person gets done out of the norm does certainly not guarantee you will. I have over 20 years in the Wireless industry and no how to talk to these people. I also consider myself a fairly adept "social engineer"/ I could NOT get it done. Maybe a few people got lucky and got in touch with people who could, and did, add an ESN into the System. I could not find that person. PERIOD
Now, this will really make some action. I finally got a the Product Manager who tried and tried, calling his "buds" up and asking around. He actually found a Memo that said if a customer was to bring an ALLTEL DATA device in to activate a New acct, they were to take it in and swap out for a new phone of equal value. He said after all the crap and time I had spent, and patience I had shown dealing with him, "come on in and Ill swap you out a XV6800"
Needless to say the car was moving before he hung up the phone. And he did exactly what he stated, gave me a brand new XV6800 in the box, and I handed him a used out of the box ALLTEL PPC6800 without battery, stylus, charger or battery door. Yes I lucked out.
Now can you pull that off? Doubtful. First off, even if the memo can be found, it clearly states for a NEW ACTIVATION, I found a flat out cool guy, and luckily a cool guy with authority. The whole time this transpired the front end person was going "I don't believe this, I don't know how he is going to get away with this, Man you sure are lucky" and then he had to make about 5-6 trips back to the rear for computer over rides and help. At one point in time the Store manager had to come give an over ride and I over heard him say, Hey that's his deal, if xxxx wants to do it, let him do so, he is the tech manager. not my problem!"
Sorry for the dissertation. But I felt it only fair to give you a detailed story on how it can NOT happen, i.e adding the ALLTEL ESN to VZWs DMD (Device Management Database) which is the obstacle to the whole thing.
I wish you well.
EDIT: Yes I posted this same story in another FORUM in response to someone asking the same question. I figured it applies here and I should spread the knowedge. Like I said, it evidently can be done., But I know how these things can go. I hate to see someone read about this in a forum and spend a whole lot of time thinking "Hey, a few attempts and I'll get the right guy" I made MORE then a few attempts. It is not like getting an activation fee waived "Just keep calling until you get the right rep and they'll take it off" This is more like calling the White House and telling them you have a quick question for the President. LOL
I don't want to flame but, It is doubtful the previous poster has twenty years of mobile phone experience, although it's not impossible. If you do some leg work and use the same tools that are provided to everyone it can be done.
If you absolutely want to talk to a real live person about activating your non-VZW phone on the VZW network then know some facts. At the beginning of the year VZW announced the Any Device, Any App as part of their "open network" initiative. This allows some devices to be activated on their network after an evaluation, and although it is not 100% in place, and you can be damn sure about 1% of VZW employees know about it, you can fill out a form take your phone to a VZW store and have them ship it out. That I have heard of, only 1 out of about 50ish have been denied. I have attached the PDF to this post.
If you want to do it yourself, and or don't want to wait 1-3 weeks here are the basic steps *READ ALL THE STEPS BEFORE YOU START*:
1. Since it's a sprint phone you need to break the SPC/MSL code and set it to all zeros. This will allow the phone to be programmed when you dial *228, if you skip this step it will fail.
2. Next you will need to load the DCD ROM, Radio, bootloader and carrier cab.
3. Load the PRL onto your phone.
4. Update your MIP Profile and MIP Default Profile (##778)
MIP Profile
Number of profiles: 6
Active user profile index: 0
MIP_MODE: Mobile IP Prefered
MIP Reg Retries: 2
MIP Reg Retry: 1750 ms
MIP Pre-Reg Timeout: 0
Mobile Node-HA: Enable
Send A Reg: Disable
Dormant Handoff Opt: Enable
MIP Default Profile
Enable Profile: Enable
NAI: [email protected] ([email protected])
DUN NAI: (if entry is there enter [email protected] so you can tether without a tethering package or [email protected] if you want paid tethering))
MN HA SPI Set: Enable
MN HA SPI Value: 12C
MN AAA SPI Set: Enable
MN AAA SPI Value: 0 (requires a "2" here for 6800 and 6900)
Reverse Tunneling: Enable
Home Address: 0.0.0.0
HA Shared Secret: (erase whatever entry is here leave blank)
AAA Shared Secret: (erase whatever entry is here leave blank)
Primary HA Address: 255.255.255.255
Secondary HA Address: 255.255.255.255
DMU Pub Key: 10
MN Authenticator: 0
5. Upload the public DMU Key (10.zip). This step never works for me but I do it anyway. I always end up having to call and have them reset my DMU key manually. If you get the right person they can do it over the phone while you wait. Data will not work if you skip this step.
6. Last goto the VZW website and activate your new equipment. Once that is complete *228 option 1 to program your phone. And test.
This post http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20090 has more details on what tools to use.
Again questions send me a PM.
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But the ESN isn't allowed via the website. That's the main issue.
What error does it give you?
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"Your request failed. You may have entered the ESN/MEID incorrectly. Please re-enter and try again."
Basically the same thing the CSR told me.
Mmm did you enter the HEX or the DEC ESN. I had that error when I entered the DEC but the HEX would go through. If the HEX still doesn't work you could try A000000 (Six 0's) followed by the HEX ESN
EX: A00000012A3B45
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Mmm did you enter the HEX or the DEC ESN. I had that error when I entered the DEC but the HEX would go through. If the HEX still doesn't work you could try A000000 (Six 0's) followed by the HEX ESN
EX: A00000012A3B45
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It doesn't allow for the whole Hex ESN if you put 6 0's
Edit: if I leave the last digit off... and use A followed by 6 0's... I get this "The phone associated with the ESN/MEID you entered cannot be activated. Please contact Customer Service at 800-922-0204 for assistance."
Bummer. Sounds like your sending it in then. grab the PDF off my previous post and take to the store and send it out. Let us know how it goes.
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Bummer. Sounds like your sending it in then. grab the PDF off my previous post and take to the store and send it out. Let us know how it goes.
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Problem now is that I can't seem to load the "STOCK" Verizon rom. The one with Radio 1.30.00 keeps coming up with "No Radio" I even tried going back to Olipro 1.2 to see if it was a compatibility issue with the bootloader
Not sure on that one. Never loaded any stock roms.
Just want it to be stock when I send it back... If I can't get a "Tech" To add the ESN over the phone.
Edit: After a few trials... I have actually been able to get the Sprint phone to be like a stock verizon phone. Radio : 1.30.60 ROM : 2.09 and SPL 1.04.0000
Ok... come to find out... the reason Verizon can't activate this phone is that an Insurance claim was done on it. This means the ESN is "blacklisted" and assurian needs to get the phone back. Now, even though I spoke with Assurian, they are saying there is nothing they can do. However, Sprint.... through the normal CSR's, checked the ESN, I said nothing about insurance, and Sprint was ready to activate it on their network.
I hate to ask this.... but does anybody have a valid... non-blacklisted XV6800 ESN that can be activated on Verizon's network? The ones I would want are ones from phones that have not been insurance claimed.... and are just software bricked and somebody just upgraded phones. PM me if you could help me out.
And yes... if I can verify the ESN via Verizon... I will buy the bricked phone... just to be halfway legal
anyone....
Why do you need a PPC ESN? I put one on from an old motorola pink razr (v3m) that was originally a verizon phone. I had the same problem. Insurance claim had same deductable whether it was broken or lost. So I just reported it lost and asurion blacklisted it. Back working again now though.
I just bought a sprint mogal to replace my burnt out p4000. I tried installing the telus cab, nut couldn't get it to connetect to telus (and I did change my settings in the ESPT using the new ESN numbers etc with my old telus defult settings that i wrote down... all of them) I was still getting the roaming probs. I tried *22803 as well as ##MSL# to no avail. So I figured maybe it would be best to down flash to stock telus Rom and radio and go from there. So I used titan relocker (to replace my nue SPL 2.47) and tried to flash the stock rom. Now I am getting a ERROR 294 invalid vender id.
Does this mean that I can't use this phone on telus? I just shelled out dollars thinking it would be no biggie to switch it over. Am I missing something?
Thanks for any help....
Surprisingly I am not freaking out yet, just enjoy another programing puzzle lol
You need a telus prl. Also you can't relock a sprint phone and install a Telus rom. The phone has to be unlocked to install the telus rom.
i have had a situation that does not shine much hope on your situation. i used to work for telus and was provided a diamond for testing purposes when they came out. it had a problem and our htc rep sent me a new one straight from taiwan. now heres the kicker -----it could not be activated untill the esn was entered into the system on the back end by telus, this took well over a week. this is far from a standard esn exchange. never in two years of working with telus have i been able to get the data network assistance guys to enter a non telus branded phone. the super tight back end activation will not allow it.
i really hope im wrong, and i hope someone will respond to this and make me look foolish, but they would not even accept ne bell pda's which r essentially the same phone minus the existence in the telus master database.
oh man i cannot wait till the tech switch next year so this will no longer be a problem.
as a last resort, i do have a p4000 i nolonger use as the call and end buttons no longer work, but all the touchscreen options make it still quite usable. if u would consider some sort of swap, i do not intend to exchange any $$$ of ne kind, i am open for suggestions. i just see no point of my old p4000 sitting around when it could be used
Alas krazycanuck82 you are correct. The kicker is that next year they told it this would no longer be a problem. I am waiting to receive an email from Telus tonight about what options they can give me on a new phone based on a sorta promise from me that if they can't give me a deal I will just buy out the last year of my contract and shop around. So we shall see. As for the Sprint phone. I will still be using it for other apps for the time being so am not to concerned on that front. Just a lesson learned to never assume LOL.
I know there are a lot of threads and tutorials on how to do this, but my question is who is currently using a Sprint Touch pro with verizon and how are you doing it? I read that verizon blocked the way that everyone used to do it with *228 option 3, and I wanted to know if there was an alternate way of doing it before I go and buy one.
I am right now, got mine in while the loophole was still open. There is a way to have the esn added by calling cust service but it may take numerous calls to find someone who knows how to add the esn into the system. I am thinking of selling mine. I wonder if it has been on the account once if it will be able to be activated like normal since it was in the system once? I may toy with this and reactivate my vogue then try to reactivate my tp. Might be a plus for a selling point if i can...
No it wont reactivate, if you used the loophole and switch devices it will not reactivate.
Trust me I did this and had to do an ESN repair to get it working again.
I have been looking at the specs for the alltel TP and it seems that they are really similar to Sprints, and if it is known that a sprint TP will not work with verizon anymore i will just get the Alltel one. since verizon bought them it should be easier to add the Alltel one than the sprint one, they might not like it and try saying they can't but I am sure I can get them to do it. thanks for all your help.
RE: Alltel TP on VZW
No Dice on the Alltel Touch Pro on the VZW network! At least for me.
I think the sprint touch pro will work on vzw. The main thing is to setup the phone first and then some how get them to add the esn. That is what i had to do to get alltel to add my sprint touch pro.
you just need to quote the CSA to them that states that you can use any CDMA compatable phone here is the quote from their CSA "Your wireless phone is any device you use to receive our wireless voice or data service. It must comply with Federal Communications Commission regulations and be compatible with our network and your Plan. Whether you buy your wireless phone from us or someone else is entirely your choice. At times we may change your wireless phone's software, applications or programming remotely and without notice. This could affect data you've stored on, the way you've programmed or the way you use your wireless phone. If you purchased a wireless phone (other than a "global phone") from Verizon Wireless for use with a plan with a minimum term and want to reprogram your phone for use with another wireless carrier network, the default service programming code is set to "000000" or "123456." Verizon Wireless in no way guarantees that your Verizon Wireless phone will be capable of being reprogrammed for use with another wireless carrier network after the service programming code is entered, or that another wireless carrier will accept your device for use on its network" this is the post that I found. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=75164&page=2
I work for verizon and they have this 'come one come all' but it only depends on the person you get as a CSR. There is a request form where you can fill out the phone make, model, and ESN and email/fax it into the people that actually do it for you. I've performed the request without fail. If I can remember to get the request form, I'll post it here as soon as I can.
if you know how to get the esn added, i would love to find out. i went round and round with verizon customer service, sales, tech support and store reps about trying to get a sprint mogul setup for my girlfriend. everyone kept telling me it couldnt be done or they dont do that. found the entry in their websites faq that states they do before anyone would listen to me. was finally told i had to send the phone to their development evaluation center before they could activate it, and that it would take three weeks! so if you have an easier way, please, enlighten me! ps..didnt mean to jack the thread
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if you know how to get the esn added, i would love to find out. i went round and round with verizon customer service, sales, tech support and store reps about trying to get a sprint mogul setup for my girlfriend. everyone kept telling me it couldnt be done or they dont do that. found the entry in their websites faq that states they do before anyone would listen to me. was finally told i had to send the phone to their development evaluation center before they could activate it, and that it would take three weeks! so if you have an easier way, please, enlighten me! ps..didnt mean to jack the thread
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all they will do is change the settings to be compatible with their network, nothing that you can't do yourself. here is some info about how to do it yourself.
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I work for verizon and they have this 'come one come all' but it only depends on the person you get as a CSR. There is a request form where you can fill out the phone make, model, and ESN and email/fax it into the people that actually do it for you. I've performed the request without fail. If I can remember to get the request form, I'll post it here as soon as I can.
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that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
can someone add my esn or point me in right direction?
please i have had this phone for weeks and havent got any where
Hi everyone,
I am a new member here but I have long browsed and admired this forum and I am thankful to now be a part of it! I have a question....I am a Verizon Wireless customer and I purchased an HTC Vogue (xv6900) from Alltel and I wanted to activate it on my line. When I went to do so I was told by 3 separate reps that it could not be done because I was a Verizon plan and only Alltel phones could be on Alltel. They said this is because they are trying to get everyone off of Alltel devices. Is there any way I can flash this phone or hack it so that Verizon will activate it on my account?
Thanks so much!
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Hi everyone,
I am a new member here but I have long browsed and admired this forum and I am thankful to now be a part of it! I have a question....I am a Verizon Wireless customer and I purchased an HTC Vogue (xv6900) from Alltel and I wanted to activate it on my line. When I went to do so I was told by 3 separate reps that it could not be done because I was a Verizon plan and only Alltel phones could be on Alltel. They said this is because they are trying to get everyone off of Alltel devices. Is there any way I can flash this phone or hack it so that Verizon will activate it on my account?
Thanks so much!
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Does no one know anything about this?
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Does no one know anything about this?
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Diddo here! having same issue. I can dial (#228) and get Verizon voices, but fails to activate. I think it has something to do with the esn number not being on vzw? Did find this post:
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i am doing this right now with a altell phone. i can tell you its a PITA and verizon will NOT push the ESN through on there system via a store or by calling tech support. i have had to send my phone to verizon to have it flashed to there software and have them push the ESN through. i did everything in my power to get them to just push the ESN and they refused. once you get the phone, you will need to take it to the service dept of an actual verizon store and they will have you fill out a form and then they will ship it out to have the work done. i was told by tech support that it takes 3 weeks give or take.
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But that was in 2008, hoping someone had a better solution. Thanks
So....
I got bored & decided to try getting my Note 3 activated on Boost.
To my surprise, they're willing to activate it.
First off, My MEID is clean, so I figured I'd have a chance.
the rep I spoke with tried several times to send me to a store( we ALL seen that coming), so I asked for a Supervisor.
after speaking with a Supervisor, he informed me that they would need 72 hrs due to the Holidays to verify my MEID & status with Sprint.
He also told me that they would send out a compatible ICCID card as well.
I'm on my way to a store to see if I can get it done today.
here a list of allow phones I came across for anyone eles looking to give it a shot
Here's a handy table listing which recent Sprint phones allowed and which are blacklisted and when the 12 month blacklist ban is expected to expire.
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2014/05/banned-phones-tracking-sprint-blacklist.html
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So....
I got bored & decided to try getting my Note 3 activated on Boost.
To my surprise, they're willing to activate it.
First off, My MEID is clean, so I figured I'd have a chance.
the rep I spoke with tried several times to send me to a store( we ALL seen that coming), so I asked for a Supervisor.
after speaking with a Supervisor, he informed me that they would need 72 hrs due to the Holidays to verify my MEID & status with Sprint.
He also told me that they would send out a compatible ICCID card as well.
I'm on my way to a store to see if I can get it done today.
here a list of allow phones I came across for anyone eles looking to give it a shot
Here's a handy table listing which recent Sprint phones allowed and which are blacklisted and when the 12 month blacklist ban is expected to expire.
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2014/05/banned-phones-tracking-sprint-blacklist.html
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Very cool. Keep me informed. Would like to know how it goes.
Yeah. So did you get it going on Boost? Everything working LTE and all?
After all this time....its done.
Boost now allows the Note 3 without flashing.
No 4G yet, since I dont have my original UICC sim.
I'll call boost tomorrow & get them to send me one, or try Sprint for a replacement.
on another note (hahaha), I may have figured out why 4g flashing never worked for the Note.
Alot of us tried 4g donors, but I found out that the UICC cards from the donors are incompatible with the Note 3 (I tried a Desire 510 & a lg tribute).
So instead of activating the donor card, try activating the card in the Note with your donor.
On Boost & On the Latest firmware
I'm OFFICIALLY on Boost with 4G & running nh7 modem.
I'm updating to OC5 now, so feel free to ask if you have questions
J_apa_n you care to share what you did to get all this going on boost? Interested in getting on going with 4G too.
My Meid is clean, so Boost activated it.
they will tell you to go into a Boost Mobile retailer for a re-sku.
If your Meid is bad, you'll need to do he usual.
the thing that stopped 4g with a flash was the donor's we were using.