I will start by stating my goal: free sms. Yes I have read all the threads on it on this site and many more.
Here is the deal, I have unlimited data for 30$ with telus but text would costs me an extra 15$ per month. I have found a VOIP solution for sms (and talk but thats already settled), but I would still have to pay 5 cents per message and I am not sure it integrates seamlessly with the other apps). I have also found a java app that works with the ICQ servers and it works pretty well but I have to create a new address book for it and I don't want to do that, not only that but I have to open the app for every message.
Does anyone know a way of changing the server\address sms uses to change it for the ICQ info or someone who knows of an app that uses ICQ but is seamlessly integrated in other apps like contacts and outlook? (even then, outlook would not be a must, its mostly the contacts).
if this could be done, all I would need would be a reply adress to be set as my phone number and voila! unlimited texting would now be available.
So any thoughts on this?
oh and ps. I know of all the websites where you can send text messages and this is even worse than the java ICQ app.
pps. (and out of topic, I know) anyone in canada who wants a good voip provider with ssp info free and all that jazz and a 10000 minutes per week, check out brama telecom, 9.90$ per month with taxes and all.
julienrl said:
I will start by stating my goal: free sms. Yes I have read all the threads on it on this site and many more.
Here is the deal, I have unlimited data for 30$ with telus but text would costs me an extra 15$ per month. I have found a VOIP solution for sms (and talk but thats already settled), but I would still have to pay 5 cents per message and I am not sure it integrates seamlessly with the other apps). I have also found a java app that works with the ICQ servers and it works pretty well but I have to create a new address book for it and I don't want to do that, not only that but I have to open the app for every message.
Does anyone know a way of changing the server\address sms uses to change it for the ICQ info or someone who knows of an app that uses ICQ but is seamlessly integrated in other apps like contacts and outlook? (even then, outlook would not be a must, its mostly the contacts).
if this could be done, all I would need would be a reply adress to be set as my phone number and voila! unlimited texting would now be available.
So any thoughts on this?
oh and ps. I know of all the websites where you can send text messages and this is even worse than the java ICQ app.
pps. (and out of topic, I know) anyone in canada who wants a good voip provider with ssp info free and all that jazz and a 10000 minutes per week, check out brama telecom, 9.90$ per month with taxes and all.
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never thought about it or tried. What about using E-mail? I know vzw... it's like ##########@vztext.com... or something.
The e-mail solution def. works but the problem is that I would have to know each person's providor and I don't know how replying would work :s
Ideally it would be like the current VOIP where it just chagnes the adresses but everything else still works like if it was on the regular network.
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The e-mail solution def. works but the problem is that I would have to know each person's providor and I don't know how replying would work :s
Ideally it would be like the current VOIP where it just chagnes the adresses but everything else still works like if it was on the regular network.
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yeah. You would have them in your contacts with the ## as the e-mail address.
and how does replying work? what if someone sends me a message? I really like the whole threaded thing... does it go to my sms outbox or does it apprear as an actual e-mail?
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and how does replying work? what if someone sends me a message? I really like the whole threaded thing... does it go to my sms outbox or does it apprear as an actual e-mail?
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Being that you sent an e-mail... they will get it with a reply address as an e-mail. I believe e-mails are threaded by default. I could be wrong.
see that is waht I am trying to avoid, because then people are confused. I have many friends (and my mother... why oh why did I have to show her how to text) who like texting but are totaly clueless about anything to do with technology. Having this integrated on my end would mean that I would be doing all the tehcnical fiddling for free sms but people at the otehr end would not notice any difference. kind of like with the voip fowarding to my phone for free incoming calls, this way people just think they are calling me and have nothign to worry about.
Also by changing the servers used, it would be able to take advantage of the "send text message" option in the contacts menu.
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see that is waht I am trying to avoid, because then people are confused. I have many friends (and my mother... why oh why did I have to show her how to text) who like texting but are totaly clueless about anything to do with technology. Having this integrated on my end would mean that I would be doing all the tehcnical fiddling for free sms but people at the otehr end would not notice any difference. kind of like with the voip fowarding to my phone for free incoming calls, this way people just think they are calling me and have nothign to worry about.
Also by changing the servers used, it would be able to take advantage of the "send text message" option in the contacts menu.
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yeah. Not something I've tried. Maybe someone else can chime in.
well the person who created the voip sms app is probably the best qualified to pitch in on this, hopefully this thread catches his or her eye. Would you happen to know how created it so I can contact them on this?
Also, ICQ is already integrated in outlook on the pc but this is not the same thign as on the pc its just a toobar add-on.
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well the person who created the voip sms app is probably the best qualified to pitch in on this, hopefully this thread catches his or her eye. Would you happen to know how created it so I can contact them on this?
Also, ICQ is already integrated in outlook on the pc but this is not the same thign as on the pc its just a toobar add-on.
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Nope. I would say search the forums on here and on PPCGeeks.com. You might come accross his stuff.
well the creators of the VOIP sms for ppc and for smartphone were both on this forum and came up in my first search I knew I had seen their names around somehwere at some point. I sent them an invite to participate in this discussion, hopefully they can shed some light on this with their expertise.
anybody on this?
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@XDA-Developers: Great work guys :!: :!: :!: Keep on ruling :!: :!: :!:
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Does any1 ever thought about programming an answering-machine for the XDA :?: Or where do I find such a tool :?: Would be nice to have the missed calls directly on the XDA without using the Provider Mailbox (no costs for me to check the calls).
Sure, I know that this only may work if the XDA is connected to the network. :wink:
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Kaputter
The answering machine idea is kinda cool, but really probably wouldn't save much on system usage, at least in the US. When someone calls in and goes to voice mail, that call is free. When you call to check it, you pay for that. So...if the incoming call is answered and recorded by the device, then you will pay for that. Net result--same cost. Actually it could cost more, because you could retrieve multiple voice mails in one call, but each call in would cost you at least a minute.
Its about functionality
It is not so much about cost as about functionality. Think of all the fun stuff you could do if you could program your own voicemailbox. Use callerid, special voicemail dropbox functions, only let your best friends ring you normally and dump the rest to the voicemail....
The idea of selective calling is very good--but would not need a voice mail system on the XDA, since it could just pass on the "deny" command when the call comes in. This could be useful for those times you don't want to be disturbed unless it is critical. Of course, you could do fun things with your own voicemail like having funny outbound messages only for certain people. I used to have that on my landline PC-based voice mail using CID. Actually it occasionally had a business pupose as I could leave custom messages for clients. Since you can already record phone calls, it doesn't seem like it would be very difficult for a programmer to play a message and then start recording.
In the US, the voicemail systems use CID to allow you to return a call directly from voicemail, for example. Used to be that my carrier would send the CID with the voicemail notification SMS, which was handy, but they stopped now for some reason. How are things like that in Europe?
... So...if the incoming call is answered and recorded by the device, then you will pay for that. Net result--same cost. Actually it could cost more, because you could retrieve multiple voice mails in one call, but each call in would cost you at least a minute.
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When the XDA receives the call and records it like the mailbox of the provider it won't cost me a Cent. Only the caller has to pay. Like the answering machine at home.
That thing with "...only let your best friends ring you normally and dump the rest to the voicemail..." would be nice too. Like the little proggi CALLERID where you can attach different pictures to different callerid's.
Only the caller has to pay.
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In Germany you don't pay for incoming calls to your cell phone?
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Only the caller has to pay.
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In Germany you don't pay for incoming calls to your cell phone?
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YAP.
So what's to keep people from making a one-minute call just to say, "Call me back" and getting their calls free?
It's kinda amazing that this kind of software is not around (yet). Would be very cool to carry a pda+cellphone+answering_machine in one device. And it would save me the money my telco charges me for listening to my voicemails aswell!
Well Carlos
Well Carlos,
The caller pays the charge so it is never free. Actually in the UK, it does cost slightly more to call a mobile.
That's interesting to learn. Long ago when cellular was still analog here in the US and cost $0.35/minute, we had the option of having incoming caller pay services or not. The mobile user decided which to use. It was not very successful because of our antiquated phone systems compared to Europe's, and there were a number of ways to beat the system. All of that completely disappeared when Sprint PCS first launced at $75/1500 minutes and completely turned the cellular world upside-down.
I haven't seen any discussion of the main reason I would like this capability - to be able to listen to my messages while I'm on a plane. The answering machine idea wouldn't save me any money, but I'd love to be able to listen to messages when I'm out of range, in a bad building, or on a plane. I wish someone would develop this. I'd buy it.
Now that is finally a reason I can get behind. My travel schedule recently backed down to infrequent, but I don't know how many times I paid $2/minute to use an air phone in the last couple years, just to get my voice mail and make notes/tasks for call backs, etc.
Hear, hear.
There is another reason that I would like this. Every time someone leaves me a voice mail, T-Mobile sends me a SMS to tell me that. I only get so many SMS messages each month and I have to pay for them. If the bulk of my calls were received and recorded on the PDA, I wouldn't have this problem.
Another thing, sometimes I retrieve a voice mail and there's information in it that I have to take down. If I don't get it right, I can't go back and check the message again, unless I saved it, which I usually don't, and then it would cost me again to go back and listen to it again. I just like the idea of having the information locally, under my control. Then the fun things that could be done with caller ID and customized greetings would be icing on the cake.
Any programmers reading this? My son works for T-Mobile and he tells me that they are selling the PDA/phone like hotcakes. Now AT&T is selling it, too.
I'm 99% sure the voicemail notification SMS does NOT account against your allotment. Also, if you have GPRS, that gives you another 300 or 500 SMS messages per month.
I'm with you on the rest of it though.
Hi!
Just found something about the HP Jornada 928 Smartphone. It has an integrated answering machine.
Does anyone know if this is software or hardware?
Look at
http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?lc=en&docName=bpia2573
or
http://www.palmtopman.com/Pocket PC.htm
Interesting. That would be software, definitely. As usual, the Jornadas come with so much more bundled than most. I can't believe they're being dropped in favor of the crapPAQ.
So what would be the chances of being able to copy that program from the Jornada 928 and getting it to work on the XDA/T-Mobile?
Probably not high. I have tried to copy other extras off the Jornada 568 and I get a message saying that you cannot copy programs stored in ROM. So it's only possible if either the program also comes on the Jornada CD (worth a look) or someone knows how to get around the copy protection on the ROM.
I've looked at the list of software on the CD and it's not listed, but I don't have access to an actual CD. Anyone know how to copy this program from the 568 ROM?
Does anybody know a way to send international text messages with out going through Verizon's servers. I know you might be able to change the server information in your phone. Are there any 3rd party servers you can use for international text messages and then just use the Verizon servers for your other text messages? Or, any 3rd party applications or websites you can use from your cell phone to send international text messages? Thanks for your help and time....
You should look for Email to SMS information to learn the email address that translates to your friends phone's internationally.
This site claims to have some of that information, but I've never used this site so I can't vouch for it. I just turned it up in an internet search.
http://www.mutube.com/projects/open-email-to-sms/?PHPSESSID=e539eb679e3c89c0d36e2b94b48fa884
Thanks, but that didn't work for the countries that I was interested in. I found two others though, but I'm having problems figuring out how to use them.
http://m.peekamo.com/default.aspx
and
http://m.wadja.com/xhtml/default.aspx
Anybody have any other solutions? Thanks!
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You should look for Email to SMS information to learn the email address that translates to your friends phone's internationally.
This site claims to have some of that information, but I've never used this site so I can't vouch for it. I just turned it up in an internet search.
http://www.mutube.com/projects/open-email-to-sms/?PHPSESSID=e539eb679e3c89c0d36e2b94b48fa884
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Sending SMS over Data
Yes I know this question might have been asked before, at least at some length. But I am taking it a step further
A long while ago I tended to use voipbuster.com and their corresponding mobile app to send texts to my friends in the UK and US for cheap. Lately their service has been none existant and no texts has been delivered and thus forcing me to look for a replacement.
But what good and decent "online" texting services are there?. I dont mind paying a small fee pr text in order to avoid apps or get "assured" delivery rather then getting them for free and they are either full of spam, or they wont make it to the recipient. Naturally it would be perfect if the company suggested has a full Android app.
I did take a look at FishText, but they have no android app so they are not really of use to me, until they develop one. Also tried Haywire from Android Market and well it didn't really work to the level of stability that I want :/
So what other companies are there out there that can fulfill my requirements?. ANd other good ideas or suggestions are naturally welcome as well.
Thanks in advance.
Viber works fine for me, both texts and calls, but the other person must have it installed too
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Viber works fine for me, both texts and calls, but the other person must have it installed too
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And thus it does not work for me :/. If it is required that the other person also has the app then its not a "Text message" sadly.
Perhaps I should have been more clear, but I am atually looking for a service that does not require the reciepients to have any special kind of app or software on their phones in order to recieve the messages
Been using an app called jelly sms, and after downloading the app it gives you the option to choose the sms carrier and have been using my cool sms as my sending option and the main advantage of my cool sms is after sending a text, in the app, if you then go on the web u can see the delivery report. It's saved me a tone texting to Africa, so can imagine, you will save more, sending to Europe. You have to topup though to get my cool sms credit, and you can also send texts online without using your phone. I must admit though the same app, is much better on the iPhone, as you get the delivery report in the app, nevertheless its a great and reliable way of sending.
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Been using an app called jelly sms
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That might actuallu do the trick. I am however more searching for a single service to sign up with / subscribe to rather then the massive list that Jelly SMS gives me. But if anyone can recommend any of the services listed inside Jelly then I am open ears.
But like i said I tried getting some credit for Voipbuster and it did work for some time but these days my messages are not getting through. Tried the Haywire app which isnt really working out either.
So I am looking for a service like FishText, but since they dont have an android app I cant use them..... And paying around 50 Cents for a text is just not appealing to me
Yes choose my cool sms
This seems to be a common but unaddressed issue with AOxP ROMs. Apparently ICS does a poor job of splitting messages nor does it allow more than 100 messages to be sent an hour. For messages that are split the text received is garbled (not in the order sent or unreadable). It does not matter what SMS app you use (Handcent, GoSMS, or stock) the results are the same.
To recreate the issue, send a text with 200 characters or more, to 20 or more recipients. While that message is sending, send another text (test) to one person. You will get a popup stating that a large number of texts are being sent; press cancel to stop or ok to keep sending. If the message is sent the recipient will either not get the entire message or it will not be received at all. This is for messages sent to any carrier (GSM or CDMA).
This is such a frustrating issue for me, I am willing to pay for help. If you are a developer, and are willing to help, please let me know. If the fix works it should be made available to everyone.
I did try this tweak to no avail.
Sir, I see and understand your question/request.
This may be better placed in the Gen section?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480557
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Sir, I see and understand your question/request.
This may be better placed in the Gen section?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480557
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Thanks I'm cool with that. Just don't want it to get lost in the shuffle, or not receive the attention it deserves.
That's a fk ton of texts. I'm curious why you would want to send so many texts on a regular basis? Not flaming, just genuinely curious.
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Why so many texts?
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That's a fk ton of texts. I'm curious why you would want to send so many texts on a regular basis? Not flaming, just genuinely curious.
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I lead a men's ministry and the best way to communicate with them in realtime is via text.
How realtime is Google +, making a circle for just your group, but then all would have to have Google accounts....?
A Fan page via Facebook...?
Twitter page wth just your group?
Palringo: desktop and app...I use it.. Palringo...you can make room/chats for just your group...Palringo is a server-based instant messaging client for various platforms. It supported several protocols such as AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), Yahoo! Messenger, Windows Live Messenger, XMPP/Jabber, Google Talk, Gadu-Gadu, ICQ, MobileMe/iChat and Facebook IM.[1] As of May 11, 2012, Palringo stopped supporting third party IM protocols to focus on their own group messaging system
Idk...just ideas... Just an idea till your request is looked at?
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How realtime is Google +, making a circle for just your group, but then all would have to have Google accounts....?
A Fan page via Facebook...?
Twitter page wth just your group?
Palringo: desktop and app...I use it.. Palringo...you can make room/chats for just your group...Palringo is a server-based instant messaging client for various platforms. It supported several protocols such as AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), Yahoo! Messenger, Windows Live Messenger, XMPP/Jabber, Google Talk, Gadu-Gadu, ICQ, MobileMe/iChat and Facebook IM.[1] As of May 11, 2012, Palringo stopped supporting third party IM protocols to focus on their own group messaging system
Idk...just ideas... Just an idea till your request is looked at?
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Great ideas! Unfortunately many of the guys are not tech savvy and even less do social sites. Most of them have regular, non-smart phones. All of them have text plans so this is the agreed up method of communication. Trust me, I'd rather do something like Facebook. I have 6 phone lines for my family (four children). All the children text. We do so little calling that we have the smallest/lowest voice plan AT&T offers. I just can't believe AOSP has built in limitations for texting in 2012.
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Great ideas! Unfortunately many of the guys are not tech savvy and even less do social sites. Most of them have regular, non-smart phones. All of them have text plans so this is the agreed up method of communication. Trust me, I'd rather do something like Facebook. I have 6 phone lines for my family (four children). All the children text. We do so little calling that we have the smallest/lowest voice plan AT&T offers. I just can't believe AOSP has built in limitations for texting in 2012.
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a non-AOSP rom is not an option for you?
some do work great ya know....
How about using google voice for texting. I use it along with the stock messaging. Doesn't seem to split texts. No mms support as of yet, but texting works great. Just need to get a google voice number. You can use that number strictly for your ministry. Can even receive calls on it on multiple lines. Works very well. You can also send and receive texts from your PC.
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How about using google voice for texting. I use it along with the stock messaging. Doesn't seem to split texts. No mms support as of yet, but texting works great. Just need to get a google voice number. You can use that number strictly for your ministry. Can even receive calls on it on multiple lines. Works very well. You can also send and receive texts from your PC.
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I 2nd that! I've been using Google Voice for my computer repair & Audio/Video Service for about 3 years now. Plus I cracked my Note's screen Saturday night shooting pool so now i have a black screen,but i use Google Voice via text messaging from my laptop to keep in touch with people until my replacement arrives tomorrow Fedex.
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How about using google voice for texting. I use it along with the stock messaging. Doesn't seem to split texts. No mms support as of yet, but texting works great. Just need to get a google voice number. You can use that number strictly for your ministry. Can even receive calls on it on multiple lines. Works very well. You can also send and receive texts from your PC.
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That's actually a great idea. I will give that a try. I still want the functionality in the ROM if possible.
I'm a UK Three customer using Omega 9.1 ROM (FW: XXBLG1 Modem:XXLFB CSC:H3GALE4).
I work a lot offshore, way out at sea so obviously no mobile connection whatsoever for weeks however we do have a small bandwidth internet connection on the ship.
There seems to masses of apps for being able to receive and send SMS messages via the internet but many seem country specific. I don't want anything too fancy just the ability to use text messages (and preferably free???). Ideally being able to retrieve my voice messages would be awesome as normally when I get home from 4 weeks at sea I have loads and loads of voice messages (I should change my answerphone message before I leave to "Please don't leave a message as I am at sea" but I always forget)
Can anyone recommend a good way of doing this please? I understand that HandcentSMS may have this feature but their website made it look a bit overkill for my needs.
Thanks in advance
Could possibly suggest you using Whatsapp, its free from the Google Play Store and you can send messages, pictures, videos and even recorded voices messages to other whatsapp users completely free over an internet connection.
It would mean that the people who want to contact you would also need to have the Whatsapp app on there phone but it can be downloaded on Apple devices, Blackberry, Android and on newer nokia devices aswell.
I understand this may not be a perfect solution and maybe some of the people you want to contact cant have Whatsapp on there phone but it could really help with those who can.
Hope this helps
Tnanks for that. Certainly a part way solution and I guess the messages I am referring to involve close colleagues, friends and family so I'll see if we can try this route as a group.
Out of interest someone who I worked with mentioned Google Talk but as far as I have read/searched this is just a "chat/instant message" application. Surely it doesn't access my SMS messages? As far as I assume, SMS messages go through my network provider(??). The issue I really want to surmount is just to be able to receive my SMS messages when I am at sea for weeks on end. It really is frustrating getting to within sight of land (normally Aberdeen) and as soon as I get mobile reception a million and one messages start pinging in some of which were sent weeks ago.
Check out textplus. May be worth a look.
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